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23 Jul 2022 14:17:11
I couldn't sit and watch game today but had mutv commentary on
Genuine question now, Donny playing in central midfield I don't remember hearing his name once? Was he that anonymous?
I've not been convinced by him .

Chris1

1.) 23 Jul 2022 14:30:17
Had little or no impact.
Tidy but totally unconvincing would be a fair enough assessment imo.
No worse than Fred but no better.


2.) 23 Jul 2022 15:57:17
At least Donny passes to his team more than the other, a talent Fred hasn't mastered yet.


3.) 23 Jul 2022 16:03:32
Predictable Ken, keep up the good work.


4.) 23 Jul 2022 16:05:58
But on a more relevant note, dvb is not United quality and never will be. He doesn't get involved and I've always struggled to know what he actually achieves.


5.) 23 Jul 2022 16:23:54
But AAA, wasn't he a key part of that Ajax team which did well domestically and in Europe?

What has happened to this guy? Last season he was getting in space in good positions but wasn't receiving the pass. Is this still happening?


6.) 23 Jul 2022 16:34:38
Your most welcome AAA.
Mancman.
He has not transitioned well to the epl.
I'm not sure he is cut out for epl intensity and pace.
I hoped he would but I'm not so sure. He might get a chance and now that we will play football in a proactive way it might help but I'm still not convinced he has a lot of work to do.
I mean you could argue that he is an intl and that he has great experience, which are the best arguments people have for liking and keeping Fred. Dvdb has excelled in an eth team before but he has sadly not done anything of note at united to date.
He might get this season he might be used as a makeweight in a transfer as he has admirers still, unlike the likes of Fred who we will be stuck with until his contract expires or like Jones he gets a new one.


7.) 23 Jul 2022 16:35:46
Donny is like that guy at work who wanders about with a sheet of paper but actually does nothing.


8.) 23 Jul 2022 16:58:27
Ok Ken, you don't like Fred. Got it now.


9.) 23 Jul 2022 17:03:23
Like the 4th official fizz??.


10.) 24 Jul 2022 05:10:12
I agree that there is every reason to be more confident this year. All I hope is that EtH does not waste too much time on the no-hopers and concentrates on the bigger picture which I kinda sure he will.

My only real feeling on the team (apart from Maguire getting the elbow) is that Ronaldo detracted from the team last year. I know he scored goals but sadly we will never know who could have/ would have stepped up had he not been here. Longer term it was a poor decision to bring him back from a playing perspective because ultimately we achieved nothing.

I should quantify that by stating that I am a huge Ronaldo fan and would love to eat my words if he were to stay and “fit in” to the plan and guide these youngsters for the next 2 years.

Anyway. Sit back put your feet up and get ready for the ride. It’s going to be better than last year at the very least! Hopefully the Stretford End resounds to the sounds of victory once again. I enjoyed the 90’s and 2000’s sat behind the goal and would love it to have the same feeling when I come over for a few games.

Bets wishes for the new season from Australia!


11.) 24 Jul 2022 09:27:38
Ken that’s a good comparison ??.


12.) 24 Jul 2022 12:26:54
Or remember the lads that used to do the end line in the cl.
Whatever happened to them? ?.


13.) 24 Jul 2022 13:30:07
???.


 

 

04 Jul 2022 16:23:08
Waiting to read the post, I don't blame Ronaldo for not training, the goals he scored for us he deserved the day off, it's the clubs fault for being a shambles he had no choice but to have a day off!

Get him and his ego out the door!

Chris1

1.) 04 Jul 2022 17:23:32
Ronaldo is still a great player, but he is very much the cherry on the top sort of signing and not the guy you bring in to build your team around.

He offers world class shooting ability paired with sub-par work rate off the ball.

While his profile can be a distraction and his presence intimidating to other players, particularly young players.

Imagine growing up idolising Ronaldo, its the 93rd minute and you have the ball on the edge of the opposition penalty area with the game tied 1-1. Do you pass to your hero Ronaldo in a poor position being marked by two players, or to Bruno in a great position unmarked?

Either you trust your gut and make the pass to Bruno or you hesitate meaning the chance might be wasted, or you pass to Ronaldo who has his shot crowded out.

Or maybe you're in a great shooting chance and Ronaldo is screaming for you to pass to him so he can shoot. Do you have the courage to ignore your idol and back yourself?

If we had a team ready to challenge then keeping Ronaldo becomes a no-brainer. But we don't, so now we need to ask is it worth keeping a player against their will, when they could be a big distraction while attempting to rebuild the team.

Maybe we let Ronaldo goes and the players who play in his stead only score 18 of the 24 goals he contributed last season, maybe only 15. Yet they get a year to grow and develop, and work on patterns of play, and playing chemistry and the following season they score 30 goals instead.

Ronaldo is 37 years old, whichever way you cut the cake he is either leaving this summer or next. He isn't the long term answer.

Maybe short term pain for potential long term gain is actually the better path.

As ultimately we will need to learn to play without him, and others will have to step up. Does it make sense building a team to play for Ronaldo this year only to have to change everything next year when he's gone anyway.

Because there isn't another Ronaldo, there is no like for like replacement. Whoever we replace him with this summer or next will be a different sort of player with different strengths and weaknesses.


2.) 04 Jul 2022 17:54:21
My thoughts exactly.


3.) 04 Jul 2022 18:25:51
Agreed. And while the pundits ask where we might have been had we not signed Ronaldo, the fact remains that last year was our worst EPL finish ever, so the reverse argument could be made.

We cannot afford to pander to anyone's ego. Our first objective has to be creating a solid team atmosphere based on a strong work ethic with players who are committed to the longer term success of the club.


4.) 04 Jul 2022 19:02:55
Ronaldo is all about Ronaldo. He always has been.


5.) 04 Jul 2022 19:32:47
I wouldn't read too much into our points tally last season.
We had the 2 of worst managers in recent history.
A toxic dressing room.
A captain who had lost all confidence and lost the dressing room.
Ronaldo and Bruno waving their arms around like a teen at an 80s rave.
No identity no leader no nothing.
Ronaldo did what he did and scored his quota.
Did he fulfill his role as expected I don't think he did.
But how could he ole left a mess like you wouldn't believe and RR made it no better.
I'd let RR talk to Ronaldo establish what each wants and then if either of them decide they don't want the other then sell him.
I don't care where he goes I don't care if he goes to Chelsea he will just be the same as any other ex player a united 'has been'
Provided great moments and lots of them but if your not red your dead imo.
We could sell him to psg and take neymar on loan for the season. That would be some craic with ETH wouldn't it . Can you imagine his face when your man tells him he is off to the rio carnival for a couple of weeks?.


6.) 04 Jul 2022 19:34:58
Shaw, the writing was on the wall with Ole in charge. Going into last season with Cavani and Rashford as our strikers would have seen us crash out of the group stage of the champions league and probably finish lower down the table. That's just my views and it's all pie in the sky.

I remember being heart broken when Ruud left but the goals were spread out about the team. We'll still win football matches without him and if it helps Ten Hag implement the system he wants to play quicker, then it's a win win.

I'm glad he's on leave indefinitely. It means that we're happy to let him go. The decision was made quick and hopefully now we can identify someone who fits into the managers philosophy and most importantly wants to be here.


7.) 04 Jul 2022 21:36:34
Leave indefinitely?


8.) 04 Jul 2022 21:47:26
Ken I imagine EtH would turn into Walter white at that point.


9.) 04 Jul 2022 23:02:28
Spenno, the club have granted him leave indefinitely. He'll be training in Portugal until he finds a new club or comes back with his tail between his legs because he can't find one.


10.) 05 Jul 2022 02:40:32
Mumbles,

That’s not true at all, or if it is it certainly hasn’t been reported by the press. He hasn’t returned for family reasons, nobody has said he’s not coming back indefinitely.


11.) 05 Jul 2022 10:34:49
I read a report that said he was granted leave indefinitely. I'm sure the family reasons aren't going away GDS2 while he's looking for a new club.


 

 

23 Jun 2022 20:20:02
You can tell people are getting impatient regarding new signings on here I've read plenty of comments in last 48 hours praising Jones and smalling ( yes the guy who couldn't pass 3 yards, couldn't use left foot and turned like a cruise ship ) ??‍♂️.

Chris1

1.) 23 Jun 2022 21:48:32
People have short memory Chris. The fact that Jones is still here and Smalling lingered for long period of time tells u all about ambition of this club.


2.) 24 Jun 2022 00:03:52
Chris, Stretha well said, people have short memories and unfortunately, their standards have dropped beyond rock bottom.
Glazers have won. We're happy being a mid table team as long as they get dividends.
What is happening to our fan base? For God's sake, wake up and smell the roses.
We're being taken for a ride and some on here are too blinkered to notice.


3.) 24 Jun 2022 06:44:29
AAA I agree! On subject of Jones and smalling and our current defensive options, I would in an ideal world sell every single one of them, there is not one defender in our squad ( not including the young lads who are on the cusp ) who is currently worthy of wearing our shirt! Including varane and Maguire, they’ve all wilted under the pressure of playing in front of fans again and in my opinion are either not good enough or in some cases they have the ability but lack the mentality to do it .

I better finish on a positive note, there aren’t many, but can’t wait for ETH to get stuck into these next week! Too easy too long springs to mind.


4.) 24 Jun 2022 08:01:56
AAA

I have been posting about the damage the Glazer leaches have done and continue to do for many years. There are some who defend it or excuse it, that’s partly why it continues.


5.) 24 Jun 2022 12:08:59
Sad to say but we’re never going to challenge again until the glazers have gone. Dividends are more important than success although without the latter the former will soon start diminishing. Hoping we’re now going to turn a corner and start to slowly get back to where we’d all like to be but these owners have sadly drained all the optimism out of me. Truly hoping I’m wrong.


6.) 24 Jun 2022 15:24:59
Right, Red Man. I totally agree with you on the Glazers, always have done. But I've given you a bye ball for long enough. For the love of God man, it's 'leeches'! ?.


7.) 24 Jun 2022 18:37:28
Hi Nou

Jeez, I really hate getting spelling wrong as well. I do these posts too much in haste at the moment.
Glazers the leeches
I feel better already.


 

 

23 Apr 2022 07:41:39
Anyone seen Ralph press conference part two?
I can't speak for everyone but I feel this fella is going to be so important to us moving forward! He calls it as he sees it! Given the right role he will play a big part in putting the club back together, you can tell in his wording he knows what needs doing .
A class act, and regardless of results under him appointing him and then following it up with a further role backstage might be the most important business we as a club have done .

Chris1

1.) 23 Apr 2022 10:00:23
That's if he's here next year Chris. I have my doubts.


2.) 23 Apr 2022 10:16:49
I did and if he is genuinely a part of the process and his public comments are a part of preparing the way for what needs to be done then good. Hopefully Murtagh is fully on board with this way of thinking and RR making them in public is due to this.

The key figure in the whole process though is Murtagh and its too early to judge him. I don't know much about him other than that which I could Google. His background looks interesting and he seems to be bringing in some good people to surround himself with from a footballing point of view.

I think this summer will give us a good idea of his intentions and qualities, I have hope rather than belief right now, but I am hoping Murtagh makes me a believer. I.


3.) 23 Apr 2022 10:53:12
Yes oak bark I’m the same as you
I just re assure myself with the fact this is also a huge opportunity for Murtagh himself to make a name for himself! If he can lead the club back up the ladder he will also be held in high regards by us! The way RR is talking I think he’s staying and I’m hoping a quite prominent role!


4.) 23 Apr 2022 14:40:05
Press conference was brilliant. Rangnick is so authoritative and really tells it how it is. Not afraid to point out the problems. So refreshing after OGS clichés.


 

 

12 Sep 2021 08:48:52
Let's address the elephant in the room! I'm fed up of reading about Donny should start, Donny should have come in earlier bla bla! He's now beginning to get that horrible cult following that Martial somehow managed to get! I've got nothing against him but I've not seen anything in him that makes me think wow . Typical Dutch / Ajax, very neat tidy but I just don't see where he gets in a forward line of Cavani ronaldo Greenwood rashford pogba Bruno . And before the cult start no he is not a 6, our only cdm is Matic, Fred and mctominay can do that role together but are not what you'd call traditional defensive midfielders. So don't start throwing abuse at Fred and mctom, give football reasons why Donny should start . For me he doesn't.

Chris1

1.) 12 Sep 2021 09:30:46
Well Chris, you haven't seen anything in him because he hardly plays.
5 minutes in the league so far from 4 PL matches.

No matter how badly Fred plays, he keeps getting picked. Why not give Donny a chance especially when Fred is in such poor form?

But, I personally think he is about to get some game time.
Ole said before the match that Donny is waiting to be unleashed.
There might be some reason why Ole blocked his exit on the deadline day.
Hopefully he starts midweek and grabs the opportunity.


2.) 12 Sep 2021 09:37:13
There are far more positive things happening at the club now than to focus on VDB - what I will say is he can’t be training at all well, otherwise he’d be getting game time.


3.) 12 Sep 2021 09:39:42
Couldn’t agree more Chris.


4.) 12 Sep 2021 10:08:10
I'm a big fan of Donny, but agree that so far at least he hasn't really shown anything consistently when he's played to suggest he should be a guaranteed starter.

I agree he isn't a No.6, he can play that role for sure, but I don't think it makes the most of his skillset and I'm unsure he can play it to a high enough standard in the EPL.

With how we play, and in the EPL I think his best role is as a No.8, an offense minded box to box role. His best attribute is his ability to make and find space. He could enable us to move the ball quicker and more intelligently through midfield. If you rewatch the Lingard goal yesterday and watch Donny, he does a little give and go on the edge of the box with Pogba, after passing the ball back to Pogba he makes a run around the outside pulling two players with him and making the pass the Lingard possible. If Pogba made the pass back to Donny instead of Lingard then he would have been 1v1 with their keeper. It's that sort of movement that opens space for himself or other players. Against teams that sit deep his sort of movement could be key in opening up chances.

There are two issues with playing Donny as a No.8 though currently. The first being that Matic is our only true No.6 and pairing Donny with either of Fred or McTominay could leave us too open in midfield. The second is that Pogba is in great form and can also play as a creative No.8. So currently he is behind an in form Pogba in what is likely his best position, while he would be behind an in form Bruno in his second best position.

I want to see Donny be given more chances but right now he has two world class players playing very well in the two possible positions he could play in.


5.) 12 Sep 2021 10:15:07
Agree completely on him not being a number 6 and trying to shoehorn him into that role makes little sense.

Also agree that its going to be tough for him to get a game in the forward positions.

My only issue is why sign him then and why not let the guy go this summer. He clearly still has a good reputation in europe and there would have been clubs in for him if we made him available for transfer.

Also rumours are that he was third choice that summer behind grealish and maddison. he's nothing like those players really, makes the signing even more of an odd one to work out.


6.) 12 Sep 2021 11:39:40
Fred is no where near as technically gifted as Donny, but Fred can get over opponents and be a nuisance. We need to play him and mctominay together because neither are good enough to be the sole holder. Donny showed last season a tendency to tire when he played from the start. People may not like it but without a top classing defensive midfielder Fred is one of the better options based on his defensive work rate alone.

Before I’m criticised, I’m not saying Fred is great, we need to upgrade him ASAP.


7.) 12 Sep 2021 12:21:03
I think with the relentless nature of games coming over the next couple of months we may start to see Donny play more regularly, whether this is in the Premier league, champions League or cup games we will have to see.
There may be a master plan that will bear out over the season. he is a good player but we are slightly lopsided I the midfield area and this will need to be addressed next season one way or another.


8.) 12 Sep 2021 13:10:11
What we do have now that OGS has built is a squad with options - players like Donny and Lingard etc are
Going to get some good game time I think. Hopefully Back
To the days where you play for Utd, you should expect serious competition for places and the pressure to perform is high.


9.) 12 Sep 2021 13:29:18
Some great answers, I’d be over the moon to see Donny play regularly because that would mean he’s producing numbers and performances better than pogba and Bruno! Just can’t see it at moment! Onwards we go ??.


10.) 12 Sep 2021 13:42:22
Ole has shown blind loyalty to those who haven't performed. DVB needs a run of games before he can be judged.


11.) 12 Sep 2021 19:05:24
Mad hatter why does he need a run of games? They see him every day . A run of games at whose expense? This is the point .


 

 

 

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17 Aug 2022 22:11:57
Can’t see it being true but if so just tells me Antony will wait until next summer.

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17 Aug 2022 06:32:42
I’m sorry but although most of us seem these players rubbish and not the standard we need or are used to, their certainly not rubbish players!

They are all far better than what their showing but their so bereft of confidence it’s staggering! Hence why our fan base need to be better, this group of players ( although I like others dislike a lot of them ) need us lot more than ever on their side!

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05 Aug 2022 22:26:00
Rj he’s bottled out of the whole of pre season so you can stop blowing smoke up his backside.

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21 Jul 2022 06:40:45
Depay or dembele? Come on!
I agree with dodgy, if it’s a player ETH wants then that’s good enough for me and good to see club backing him!
Whether it happens or not god knows but I expect another 2 or 3 in and quite a few out!

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13 Jul 2022 20:57:49
I haven’t got much positive to say about many players no, have you been living in a cave for 18 months?
Why should we! Bailey has had umpteen fresh starts and has been a let down every time, the sooner we did the club of chancers like him and many others the better! I feel their are a good group of players that ETH can work with and improve definitely and I’m excited we finally have a top manager in, however I won’t be fooled by pre season cameos by players who are not up to the required standard!

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17 Aug 2022 06:43:43
When Ronaldo signed we were going along ok, actually thought we could keep improving and possibly kick on and win something! He has 100 percent rattled the apple cart! The front players have fallen off a cliff! Even go back to the tour, they all seemed happy and although only pre season we looked good and expressing ourselves, now he’s been back we’ve been dreadful all over!
He is without a doubt a massive issue. Get rid of him and I do think we improve and rebuild.

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14 Aug 2022 20:32:58
How can you say varane looks a captain
Can’t stay fit for longer than a fortnight
Never on the pitch! Looks like bambi on ice!
Another signing based on a name rather than any research!

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14 Aug 2022 18:16:22
Behave Rohan no need to bring Maguire into it
Ronaldo needs to go, he’s a massive problem! Doesn’t want to be there and I’d expect deep down ETH doesn’t want him there either! Absolute circus. And this is regardless of what I feel about other players.

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10 Aug 2022 05:02:59
Watch Chelsea quietly go about their business hahaha

Their the most erratic team this summer, no plan just chasing names! I think their new owner could be a bad move! Fingers crossed!

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10 Aug 2022 04:59:03
Agree gds2, absolute joker of a fella! Knows nothing about anything! Best part of transfer window closing is he disappears for 6 months.

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