09 May 2024 00:11:26
Todays game vs Real Madrid shows why we should not get Tuchel.
He subbed off Kane, switched to a back 5, and subbed off Sane.
Poor negative management, he should have brought on Mathys Tel or tried to counter but instead he just brought off his better players and surrendered the match.
09 May 2024 06:08:32
Alternative argument, Neuer shouldn't have f@#k*d up, and the linesman admitted he made the wrong decision after the game.
None of that was Tuchels fault. It's easy to blame a manager. Perhaps he should have kept Kane on.
09 May 2024 06:26:13
I am not here to defend Tuchel but if the keeper hadn’t dropped an absolute clanger it may well have been successful. Going to Madrid and doing what Bayern did, probably deserved to win given their game strategy, it was the sign of an elite coach.
I would take Tuchel over what we have and certainly over Southgate.
09 May 2024 06:40:47
I’d be more worried that he’s a manager who like Conte / Mourinho et al seems to fall out with everyone by season three, and it feels unlikely we’ll be challenging in that time and back to square one again. Or maybe that’s just being defeatist? Just feels like we need someone with vision to begin from the bottom up.
09 May 2024 07:05:45
Backpass you’re right.
Remember just a few weeks ago when ETH was getting hammered for subbing Garnacho, by the same people defending Tuchel above?
At the time he brought Kane off it’s the first thing that came to mind; the meltdown on here has Tuchel made the same subs for us.
09 May 2024 07:07:06
Not being defeatist spenno. Or if you are then that makes two of us because I agree with you.
Anyway, it's irrelevant because ETH is going nowhere. SJR likes bald men. Hence SDB is on board. ken just see it.
09 May 2024 08:43:37
Then by all accounts ten hag shouldn’t be the manager based on the group stages lol.
09 May 2024 08:59:21
Losing a champions league semi final by the odd goal against Madrid at the bernabeu…. that’s something we could only dream about currently so if that’s what tuchel brings then sign me up. His management and tactics got them there in the first place remember!
09 May 2024 10:02:31
Tim, most of us all know that's nonsense though because if that happens to us in the manner it did last night, individuals would be on here hammering Tuchel for taking off a player and his tactics. Unfortunately that's what some of this fanbase have become.
09 May 2024 10:15:30
To be fair Kane's stats at the point of being substituted were the poorest in the Bayern line-up - he got an assist but four passes and definitely fatigued. But yeah, in hindsight definitely the guy you want on the pitch when you're chasing which is the risk you take.
09 May 2024 10:40:47
I'm not sure about that ports.
Klopp gets lot of praise on here just for competing he wins very little.
I would be delighted to see us competing at the top table. Wins at that level or losses can happen in a blink of an eye.
09 May 2024 10:46:15
Backpass / rohan.
Can you make me the manager that never made a mistake? That will go alongside any of fizzy pops posts as one of the daftest.
To get to be winning a semi final with 1 min to go means he did a lot more right than wrong over the course of the comp.
Pep lost plenty of semi finals and finals so did fergie klopp etc.
09 May 2024 11:37:57
So taking Kane off with 5 mins to go and going defensive is poor negative management but Ten Hag doing it after 65 mins is fine and taking his best players off at that.
09 May 2024 12:05:35
You are absolutely right Mad Hatter, it is easy to blame the manager ?.
09 May 2024 13:55:12
To be fair he can't do anything about a mistake by Neuer. I do think the subs and change of shape actually helped Madrid and there was more space for some reason. I was thinking they are in trouble if they concede and how is he going to hold out for 30 minutes of extra time as he took all the threat upfront off.
Saying that I thought sane was really poor all game and not sure if he had anyone on the bench to replace him with. Personally would have left Kane on as they have nothing left to play for and this was it.
I have no issues with them sitting back and trying to counter.
09 May 2024 14:00:41
On another note the premier of 99 by prime is this weekend in Manchester i believe and everyone is going to be there.
10 May 2024 13:36:21
Ahmad
I thought Kane had looked sluggish towards the end of the game if honest.
{Ed077's Note - taking off attacking players and going all defensive with just 1 goal lead isn't the best idea, regardless of how you spin it. If it was 3-0 with 10 to go, fine but it was too small a margin to do that, IMO. Another thing people haven't really talked about is, even if the De Lift goal stood, they would have had to play the ET with less attacking threat (at least on paper) and if it went to a penalty shootout, Who are the players to take the pens?
Would you rather Kane take them or Kim?
If Ten Hag taking Garnacho off can have a negative mental effect on our players then why can't the same thing happen when Tuchel took off Kane, Sane and Musiala to go more defensive? Madrid already seem to have the psychological edge over everyone else so it can't have had a positive impact ey