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03 Dec 2018 11:03:28
So Saints have sacked Hughes (after a miserable draw with United :P) . We should also act now.

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03 Dec 2018 11:21:50
Thats what you get nowadays, don't beat utd you get the rodney jack.

03 Dec 2018 11:45:42
I think it's because his team let Lukaku score against them.
Now I don't even care about the table anymore. I just want to see if these same players can perform better under some other manager at United. The players look confused about their role whether they should press or sit back.

03 Dec 2018 12:42:30
Some of these players didn't perform under moyes or van gaal and haven't under Jose. What makes you think they will under another manager.

03 Dec 2018 12:48:45
Obvious decision - if they don't beat us they are not going to beat anyone!
Bit of hyperbole perhaps, but so near the truth that it is really painful.

03 Dec 2018 13:54:52
Mort, the truth right there.

03 Dec 2018 14:44:20
Mort which players are these? Mourinho picks the team can't blame the players when manager keeps picking players who have been here before him rather than his own signings.

03 Dec 2018 15:05:49
Can't blame the players because the manager picks them?

03 Dec 2018 15:26:47
CSM it’s a combination of both the players and the manager. Not saying Jose is right but in your eyes everything is jose’s Fault. The vast majority agree that Jose is not performing at all but your agenda is personal. At least attempt to be objective instead of blaming every single thing on the manager. It’s not jose’s Fault that pogba keeps losing the ball in dangerous areas and then saunters around the pitch expecting others to win it back. There comes a point where the players have to take a real hard look at themselves and take responsibility for their lack of effort and desire. Yes Jose is at fault for continuously playing matic, smalling and mctominay whilst the likes of fred pereira and bailly don’t get a sniff. But some of these players need to take ownership because they have failed under more than one manager.

03 Dec 2018 15:44:14
C'mon park Unai Emery has been at Arsenal for well over 5 months now and he's already shown clear identity and a fantastic style of play, something Jose Mourinho has failed at in 3 years at Man United lol.

03 Dec 2018 16:14:39
Angel if manager keeps picking matic ahead of everyone else, keeps picking Lukaku over other, keeps picking smalling and jones ahead of his own signings. There comes a point where poor performance isn't player's fault anymore. It is the manager's blindness that's the problem.

Park we are 8th with a negative good and are miles off top position, while I see mourinho's counterparts managing to improve likes of delph and henderson mourinho has managed to get even ddg to regress a little. It is not all his fault but nearly 90% is his, name 1 player he has improved for us, just 1. 400mn spent and your most successful signing was a free agent. rubbish performances and unwanted records that even moyes failed to break being broken.

Players are to an extent at fault but why are the same players who look pathetic for us look good for their NT's and it isn't just 1 player. Pogba seems to play well for france so does lukaku yet they look hopeless at utd. Maybe it is down to the team that surrounds them yet the same phenomenon seems to repeat itself with lingard and rashford too both look miles better in the english shirt than they do in ours, is England a worldclass team filled with worldclass talent.

When an individual underperforms maybe the individual is at fault, but when everyone under the manager underperform i don't see a point in blaming the players.

03 Dec 2018 16:35:32
Course we can blame players. Half of them either aren't good enough or don't try. And that's been the same under 3 managers. I want Jose gone but its simplistic to lay all the blame on one person.

03 Dec 2018 18:05:05
Again Mort what half? Right now only smalling, Jones, young, Valencia and ddg remain off those who played under all 3. Mourinho chooses to play smalling and Jones ahead of his own signing, only 1 of young or valencia plays unless shaw is unavailable. Also out of smalling and Jones only smalling can be considered a regular starter, are they the reason why we are where we are.

03 Dec 2018 18:09:07
Kopite and CSM

If you both read any of my previous posts You will see I want Jose gone and have praised the likes of emery on the great impact he has made in a such short time. All I’m simply saying is the players are to blame as well. They don’t deserve to had a free ride and for the manager to take all the blame. But yes Jose is a massive issue and he needs to go.

03 Dec 2018 18:26:11
Noooooo not yet park! I hope he stays as long as possible😊.

03 Dec 2018 22:08:13
And of those 5 to have played under all 3 only one is worth keeping. The number of players worth keeping is probably around 10.

04 Dec 2018 05:44:06
So didn't Fellaini and mata play under all 3 as well then?

04 Dec 2018 08:14:31
Pereira, Lingard, Rashford (though not initially in the first team until LVG) McTominay we’re all at the club.
Shaw, Fellaini, Mata, Rojo, all arrived in 2014.
So it’s more than just 5 players.



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