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07 Aug 2018 09:14:59
Having the transfer window shut early for the league specially after world cup was such an personic idea. I don't think there will be anymore business for us in the upcoming days. Though there are strong rumours of Toby but Spurs don't have enough time to look for a replacement. I just hope we don't panic buy on deadline day.

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1.) 07 Aug 2018 10:03:30
sailor,

There will be movement mate, does seem to be leaving it a bit late though and I agree, I hope we don't panic on Thursday.


2.) 07 Aug 2018 11:16:11
I’m not worried, we can’t sign Fellaini twice.


3.) 07 Aug 2018 12:50:27
Sailor - you never know Levi might insist on smalling/ shaw going the other way . heres hoping :)


4.) 07 Aug 2018 12:52:16
Danny that made me laugh. But heard Mr. Witsel is looking for a move from Chinaa.

{Ed002's Note - He has already moved.}


5.) 08 Aug 2018 08:03:20
Yes Ajay, looks like he moved to Dortmund.


6.) 08 Aug 2018 08:55:11
DannyP, but what if Harry Maguire IS this seasons Fellaini?


 

 

09 Jul 2018 15:48:07
Just read this rumour that we might look to get Dembele for Martial in exchange. I know it's probably BS but that is the only way I would be willing to let Martial leave the club.

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1.) 09 Jul 2018 18:49:02
Swap one inconsistent french player for another? No thanks, send Martial out on loan and look for alternative cover.


 

 

18 Mar 2018 13:52:36
Heard that Martial wants to leave for Juventus. Don't know whether it's true or not but I think if any team offers what we paid for him ten we should sell him. There are many who will talk about his potential and stuff but without the right attitude potential is useless.
He has more potential than Rashford but I can guarantee that Rashford will be twice the player Martial would ever become. His link up play is not upto the standard and it's just sad to see him take on the defender on the wings. Everyone can see how easily Rashford can go past on the wings but Martial just runs into the player losing the ball. Rashford makes the opposition nervous with his pressing and you can even see someone his goals have come as a result of him never giving up.
Many will say he will be great under Pochetino or someone else. But can you guys actually see him succeeding under Pochetino or Klopp. They ask a lot from their players and Martial would just fail to deliver. Try to put him in a Spurs team and decide for yourself who will he replace in the front 4. I was very excited when he came and I hope he proves everyone wrong and becomes the best player in the world with us but I just don't understand what type of formation or playing style will suit him so that he can jump into that bracket of world class players.

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1.) 18 Mar 2018 16:11:35
You can guarantee Rashford will be twice the player Martial will be can you?


2.) 18 Mar 2018 17:21:40
Play Martial up top or sell him if we get what the board deem a suitable offer.

He’s a 1 in 5 player and that’s nit good enough at Utd despite his age. Rashford has more potential than Martial in my opinion. Not sure it needs to be one or the other though. I’d ditch Zlatan and give him a season rotating with Lukaku up front. However Maybe his sulky demeanour is just too much for Jose and he just doesn’t have what it takes.


3.) 18 Mar 2018 17:39:07
Word is there is a new deal on the table for martial.


4.) 18 Mar 2018 19:37:07
Ed002 confirmed that juve are in for him but we are a good bit apart from agreeing a fee.
I would be shocked or saddned if he left but it wouldn't shock me if he was kept to see if he can fulfill his potential and claim a regular place in the side. Have to say he is not my cup of tea.


5.) 18 Mar 2018 19:50:03
Zlatan was hardly there this season. He was just here to take some of the money Woodward had been getting in. Don't think Mou trusts Martial up top.


6.) 18 Mar 2018 20:12:38
Other than it’s of pace, Rashford hasn’t actually shown that much quality. His composure and finishing Needs a lot of work, his runnning is the channels isn’t the best, and he makes the wrong decision very often. He has a game where he comes up against a poor full back and rinses him the whole game and people think he’s the best thing since sliced bread again. Martial has much more potential, the quality of his finishing etc is streets ahead of rashfords. He just needs to play regularly as a forward. Martial is NOT a winger.


7.) 18 Mar 2018 20:35:40
Martial is just another example of a young player who needs to be playing in a team which plays to his strengths. He is really good but being played out on the left wing is not going to let his talent shine. Round pegs in round holes. He is going to be awesome if he gets a central attacking role and with a team playing fluent quick football. Not the slow slow pass it a million times we are apt to at the moment.


8.) 19 Mar 2018 08:02:26
Under pochhetino martial would improve undoubtedly, a couple of years under poch and he would be at that hazard and sanchez (pre joining us) level. No reason why martial shouldn't be getting double figures in goals and assists every season.


9.) 19 Mar 2018 10:41:25
If martial can't make it at united our coaching staff aren't fit for purpose. I agree martial is not a winger and should be playing as a striker eventually.


10.) 19 Mar 2018 13:11:23
Maybe, just maybe, we have paid over the odds for an overrated youngster who is also not fit for purpose?


11.) 19 Mar 2018 16:47:17
Maybe just maybe he's played on the wings to develop his all round game and because the £75-90 million striker we have has bagged over 20 goals so far.

Maybe the Juve rumour has popped up because contract talks stalled. Not the first time its happened.


12.) 19 Mar 2018 18:38:13
It’s all rather dull. If he’s sulking ship him out. If he’s angling for a striker position then prove you’re worth it there by smashing every single game you play and every training session there is.

I cannot abide maoning and sulking. Get your head down and prove you belong there. If not, au revoir.

I like Martial as a player, but can’t see him being a world beater I’m afraid.

Too many cruising in this squad for me and Martial is a prime culprit.

All this talk of Poch I don’t get. His team have shown absolutely zero aptitude when it comes to crunch games and pressure to win.

Maybe I’m just being grumpy still but back jose and his decisions or sack him now. If they want a yes man, Jose clearly not your man. The board have no place in making football decisions on team sheets and tactics.


13.) 19 Mar 2018 19:30:56
Eric your talking sense my friend.


14.) 20 Mar 2018 15:40:33
Eric - When have united ever not paid over the odds?

I would say most people rate martial as a good player with potential to be even better. Wouldn't class that as overrated.

Even if you don't think he has potential to go to the next level he surely must be way down your list of united problems?
And surely he has been our best left sided attacker this season? So even if you think he hasn't been good enough often enough there's been plenty worse?

Your point about Jose I agree with. The board back him or sack him.

Anyways here's to next season quadruple.


 

 

06 Aug 2017 17:50:53
Read somewhere that United want Sergi Roberto (personally I think it's bull news just made for the sake of selling papers) . But I just love the guy, so much talent and can play a couple of positions. Doesn't get the game time he wants at Barcelona but can't see him getting minutes at United either.

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1.) 07 Aug 2017 00:10:31
He was constantly played out of position at Barcelona is the press are to be believed 40m euros is far too much.


2.) 07 Aug 2017 12:49:53
Sounds like Barcelona trying to use Utd to get him sold.


 

 

31 May 2015 18:48:59
What happened to the young RB we have on loan to Real Madrid B. I think Varela was his name.

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13 Aug 2018 06:34:24
Like everyone else I also liked Pogba's performance. I saw the match again and realized that we are so used to bogus football that a half decent performance by any of our players looks like world class to us. There were a couple of good ball by Pogba, a penalty and clearances. He lost the ball a few times while dribbling like he normally does which was a result of him trying to do too much instead of just passing. Now I'm not saying that it was not enough or his performance was bad. But us fans are making too much of it. Other team fans are so used to these things that this type of performance is considered average and it is what they expect from all their players. Hazard, De Bruyne, Silva, Kroos and others do this all on a consistent basis without losing the ball so many times. This might be a result of our style of play or whatever but we are making a lot out of an average performance.

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1.) 13 Aug 2018 15:47:49
I thought it was a pretty average or below average petformance from the team against a side that simply doesn't win away from home. They outplayed us in long parts amd ddg made three brilliant saves and Vardy missed a sitter before he scored. Against a better team, we would've lost.
Opening weekend showed us that we're way behind city, Liverpool and chelsea even. It'll be a struggle to get top4 and i saw nothing to inspire me.

{Ed004's Note - I agree that a better side would have beaten us but there are positives to take from the game. Bare in mind we had a horrid preseason and we were missing atleast 4 regular first team players from last season, additionally, we had a few debutants in midfield and a half fit Pogba. Some players looked really impressive (Bailly, Shaw, Andreas and Pogba) while others looked like they were finding their feet (Lindelof and Fred). A few underperformed such as Sanchez, Mata and Rashford but Im sure this will improve when the midfield gels better and Jose gains more confidence in his back 2 pairing}


2.) 13 Aug 2018 23:20:22
Struggle to get top 4 😂😂.


 

 

10 Aug 2018 06:55:35
I know most of us including me are disappointed with the transfer window but that's done now and we have to look forward. With Fred, Dalot and perreira coming in we have only strengthened our squad. We didn't have any outgoings so doesn't really matter as we have enough players. The main area of concern for me was full backs and that has been for many years now.
There wouldn't have been so much negativity if we had our full squad to play the first few matches. We all know that with City in that form we can't even think about taking any match lightly and dropping points early in the season means we might not be able to recover at all. If we manage to keep the players for the remaining of the transfer window and get good results at the start with so many players out then I can see us doing well this season.

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1.) 10 Aug 2018 07:37:25
I must say, I did expect better windows from a family called the Glazers.


2.) 10 Aug 2018 07:47:44
The best transfer window joke of the summer comes after the deadline. Typical!


3.) 10 Aug 2018 08:32:53
No pane no gain.


4.) 10 Aug 2018 09:07:38
On reflection I totally agree!


5.) 10 Aug 2018 15:34:47
The whole window is nothing but a pane in the glass.


 

 

05 Aug 2018 20:54:07
I haven't seen any preseason matches and this is the first time I'm seeing us play. And I have to say wow, we are really bad. With nearly everyone improving their squads it's going to be a very long season.
I know it's only preseason and we have a lot of players missing but this team has no soul. Reminds me of the preseason Chelsea had when they just imploded.
We can't put 2 passes together if the other team is pressing and there is no supply for forwards. It's just sad to see this team.

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1.) 05 Aug 2018 21:27:30
Did we have a shot on target? I'm honestly asking because i can't recall us having a go to their keeper but hey don't say these things because according to a few here if you talk bad about the team you are being toxic. Oh and its only preseason, somehow they think we are going to play differently next friday. Its like we are going to change manager and miraculously start to play with intention to win. I said sonething similar last game against madrid, we were lucky we won because we didn't control the tempo, we didn't dominate but hey i'm toxic lol. It is going to be a long season indeed. Oh and i do want him out asap, the sooner the better, i still don't understand how this guy managed Real Madrid.


2.) 05 Aug 2018 21:30:52
No soul no heart no fight
And for the stat boys 0 shots on target, preseason or not it's looking bad, I mean the under 18s would put in a better performance
Sad is what I feel right now.


3.) 05 Aug 2018 21:45:10
The main problem I think is that there is no intention of pressing the other team. All players are afraid that they'll be caught out of position and just sit back. We reached their box twice in 90 minutes I think and when we lost the ball no one was trying to win it back, instead everyone started jogging back for defending.
I'm not on the Jose out brigade because I know even he can see what is happening and won't just let teams walk all over us in the league. But it definitely won't be fun to watch. Football has changed a lot and hopefully Mourinho will realize in time that he needs to change as well.


4.) 05 Aug 2018 21:46:47
We have no identity. And that goes beyond the manager. We're ran by an accountant who only cares as long as we're profitable your useless owners who have sucked over a billion pounds out of the club. I'm sure jred will point out what Jose has spent. But contrast that with what city have spent. Imagine the team we could have right now if they were prepared to spend properly.


5.) 05 Aug 2018 22:05:47
It is going to be a long, Long, LONG. Season.


6.) 05 Aug 2018 22:26:20
Mort I don't think u can blame the owners in terms of style and identity of the club. That's upto Jose who has always been defensive manager.

Nothing is wrong w/ United or Jose if city wouldn't have exceptional season then u guys might have won the league.

The problem is nowdays footy has changed lots of good team w/ better coaches and well organised teams compare to couple of yrs.

Jose always has played waiting game for opposition to do mistake where he takes full advantage of it. Like against us (LFC) but problem starts when opposition are happy to sit back like (sevilla) where he needs to attack them by pushing your defence 10-15 yard forward.

In recent yrs epl teams are happy to park the bus that's where Jose struggles because he plays deep instead and waits for their mistake instead of pressing/ penetrating them . That's nothing to do w/ owners or board.


7.) 05 Aug 2018 22:54:40
We've had no identity since Fergie left. He kept the plates spinning to cover the cracks. Moyes and van Gaal weren't attacking style managers either. Who appointed them? Who keeps buying players the managers don't ask for but sell lots of merchandise? A billion pounds taken out the club yet let's keep blaming the managers.


8.) 05 Aug 2018 23:47:21
Mort we had the same board under fergy .
You might not like it but it's thevmsnager that has changed .
If only we could of got a pep .

Bournemouth play better footy than us, would they like josecasctjere next manager?


9.) 05 Aug 2018 23:56:29
Mort
Imagine if Jose had all our players playing well
Compared to pep who you are still insisting is a fraud. 😅😅😅😅.


10.) 06 Aug 2018 00:08:00
Well, well, well, what do you know? I'm sure it's Pogba's fault eh Leahy12?

Mort, thus is what I have been screaming at you guys for and many are still blind to it. BTW, the accountant doesn't set the playing parameters, the drills, the style, the football identity. I'd care less about him and focus on the real culprit but oh no! We would rather attack a World Cup winner and a CEO instead of the manager over the football style.

Nice input Kopitef, I couldn't have said it better.


Those saying we don't have an identity because of lack of players Mourinho wants I tell you that regardless of the team Guardiola, Klopp or LVG manage (even a championship team), you see an identity, an intent on playing style and also ubiquity towards the dynamism of the game.


LVG, had a worse team, much worse but we still had an identity, an intent, a certain way of playing. You knew we would play shirt incisive passes, sideways, that we'll dominate possession etc.


As Ed002 explained the toxic pushed out a carefully orchestrated transition by the club and here we are. Still the toxic haven't learnt - blaming everyone else but the perpetrator.


On a final note, with all we know, is it surprising that the two most creative, talented and entertaining players want to leave the team?

Is it so difficult to understand the problem?


Bring Kroos, SMS, Aldeweireld and Willian, Mourinho will still find a boring negative way to play and he'll have the whole world to blame but himself.


But as a lifelong supporter, I'll always be behind the manager regardless of who it is!


11.) 06 Aug 2018 01:02:11
Was pogba playing yaz.
You blame the manager but your behind him.
I'm not beh8nd the manager I don't sit on the fence.
Jred do you have a thing for pep.
And yaz I didn't mention pogbas name in my post, but you seem to keep bringing him up are you a fan boy of pauls.


12.) 06 Aug 2018 05:27:10
Well, you seemed to indicate everything is Pogba's fault because he "didn't knuckle down enough for us like he did France"

I tried to explain it to you that when a player has strengths and qualities, the manager tries to make a system that will be in tandem with that. Not put players out of position in an unsuitable system.


Pogba played better for France because his coach gave him a role that suited him not ask him to play defensively in a two-man midfield, end of.


I'm behind the manager doesn't mean I agree with his system or style but it means I'll reluctantly accept his position in the club, won't be toxic, hope for improvements and you won't catch me with a #managerout.


Yes I'm a Pogba "fan boy" because in as much as I love Manchester United, I'm a football lover first, a sort of purist and nothing makes my day like beautiful football. Enthralling, mesmerising football. That's why I don't want us to let go of our flair players - Pogba and Martial are the two first teamers guaranteed to have you on the edge of your seat in excitement and what do we do? Wish for them to be pushed out of the door by a manager not willing to take risks, by a manager that will probably leave in a year and we'll be back to square one trying to get flair players for a new manager.


It sucks innit?


13.) 06 Aug 2018 09:35:12
Would be the same board that was penny pinching under Fergie with no value in the market.


 

 

10 Jun 2018 16:56:07
I don't know what happened with Liverpool's pursuit of Nabil Fakir but I'm certainly happy he's not going there. Such a good player and would have made them a lot stronger. I hope we could have signed him especially for the reported 50m being suggested.

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1.) 10 Jun 2018 17:29:04
Very talented player and would have been a great addition for them. Could work in lyon’s favour if he has a great World Cup as it will drive his price up. I still expect him to end up at Liverpool though.


2.) 10 Jun 2018 18:37:38
Rumour has it they threw a ball at him and because he caught it the transfer was called off.


3.) 11 Jun 2018 00:55:10
To be fair we've signed too many rubbish Fakir's over the last few seasons At United lol.


4.) 11 Jun 2018 16:51:13
Disappointed the rags never went with the headline 'Fakir Off! '


 

 

14 May 2018 09:27:26
I remember we predicted the final standings and golden boot etc at the starting of the season. 1 thing I'm sure about is that no one got the golden boot correct. Did anyone get the teams correct?

sailor

1.) 14 May 2018 09:50:35
Bear with me, results will follow after the Champions League final.


2.) 14 May 2018 09:53:04
Sailor.
Every year I put United down to win every comp so I never have a chance.
I bet nobody got salah.
I bet nobody had the 3 relegated clubs.
I bet very few had both cl finalists.
I reckon I did worse than Mrs Beast this year🤣
I'm sure ajh will give the detail after the cl final.


3.) 14 May 2018 13:58:14
Fairly sure I put City then United this year so not a bad start.


4.) 14 May 2018 14:35:47
Fairly sure I did United, city. So a bad start.


5.) 14 May 2018 17:31:16
No more bets on Utd, no more predictions based on my support of Utd. Those our my new season resolutions.

Also - if I am getting no enjoyment from the game after 10mins, turn it off and don't let it ruin yet another weekend (it has destroyed far too many to count in recent years) .


 

 

 

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15 Aug 2018 10:32:47
We need Louie Van Gaal army to play for us.

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11 Aug 2018 14:48:04
OK with your powerful reply and the mention of Micah Richards you have managed to change my mind. Now I agree that Jose is a very youth oriented manager. I think we should adopt this style of play throughout our youth system so that there is a more seamless entry for our academy graduates into the first team. Can't wait to see chong playing at left back.

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11 Aug 2018 12:57:55
I hate city as much as any united fan but now it's just getting ridiculous. Pogba, Rashford come under our academy graduates. City has just started developing youth which they think should be capable of playing at the highest level. There are a couple who are very good and even played for them last season and didn't look out of place due to their style of play. They just bought a club in Spain where these players will play against the best and come back to be in the first team. Jose playing these guys yesterday was out of necessity.

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09 Aug 2018 13:01:57
And they are also giving Alli on a season long loan with option to sign for 20m.

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19 Jun 2018 16:29:47
I've always supported you LVG. Actually I was roaming the streets of my city all night shouting Louie van gaal army after the cup win.

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09 Aug 2018 14:03:13
With the kind of preseason we had and the number of players missing, I think Leicester will hit us bad on the counter and we won't be able to break their defence.

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09 Aug 2018 13:30:34
Dendonckar would have cost us double of whatever wolves are paying.

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09 Aug 2018 11:55:08
It's not happening. Just some click bait news.

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09 Aug 2018 08:09:58
Between his injuries and manager not picking him Shaw has had very little to play. I'll be honest, he obviously hasn't been good but he gives atleast something when attacking. Jose has criticised his positional play and he's right. Sometimes Shaw gets carried away and when there is no attacking threat from us and leaves his position vacant. But going forward he's better than Young. Everyone knows he will cut in and even if he beats the full back and tries to cross with his left foot it's a very weak cross. Alteast Shaw creates confusion in the opposition defence and frees up space for others to attack. He gives us the natural width that full backs are there to provide.

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09 Aug 2018 06:55:57
There won't be any signings and I can assure you that. Our primary targets are Premier league based and the teams don't have enough time to replace them if sold.
We have a good enough squad with plenty depth as well. The only concern is full backs and I hope Shaw and Dalot (when he's fit again) can be the ones to nail their place in the squad. Young and Valencia can do the job but they won't be any better than last season, that is the maximum we cab get out of them.

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