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22 May 2018 18:48:26
If some of you lot were around in 1986 Ferguson wouldn't have lasted 5 minutes.

Criticise his football and how entertaining it is all you like, that's an opinion. - I quite enjoy 1v1 tactical battles on the field, even if we do lose them from time to time.

I'm also not one for Klopp football like many others, it's just a matter of taste.

But here's where the line get's drawn. OUR OWN FANS (and not just a few I might add, by the looks of twitter it was enough to fill OT) FORCED his SON! and HIM! to close their social media accounts because their lives were being threatened.

I'm not sure when the word 'support' was taken out of 'Supporter'.

It's not Blind faith to back a manager with a record of getting it right to get it right even it takes longer than 2 BLOODY YEARS!

Mourinho is part of this club, whilst he is here, he is Manchester United just as much as the players are and the board are.

Who coincidentally are the literal components of Manchester United.

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22 May 2018 18:57:25
Yes he would of, there was plenty of abuse back then as well if not worse .

The club and football was a million miles away from the current .
The over dramatization of the current situation is laughable.

22 May 2018 19:07:15
Jose media account which I'm sure is managed by someone else was closed before the fa cup final.

22 May 2018 19:13:15
Mourinho closed his insta Thursday before the cup final.

22 May 2018 19:15:10
Moon, anyone who abused Jose and his family is sick and twisted, nobody on here would condone that type of thing. It is indicative of today’s society and the anonymity a keyboard provides for the pond life who get a kick from that sort of thing.

You are right about SAF’s early years and there was a group who wanted him out. The MEN even ran a pole in ‘95 asking if he should be sacked. This was after a trophyless season, albeit one that had followed several years of success including 2 titles and a Double. So yes, fans and to some extent press, have always been fickle and always will be.

However, as has been said so many time, the situation today is very different to the situation then. I am not going to go over the same old arguments but lest try and summarise why many (not all) are very frustrated.

1. Jose could start an argument in empty room. He seems to call out his players publicly and if rumours are to be believed then Shaw, Martial, Lukaku, Pogba, Bailly are all on the naughty step. That’s a lot of payers.
2. We started the season on fire, went to Anfield to play a dodgy Liverpool team, and set up not to get beat. There’s a time to do that, this wasn’t it.
3. Jose has signed quite a few players. Zlatan was a one season wonder, Bailly has fallen out of favour, Lindelof I don’t understand, Pogba is a shadow of the payer he can be, Miki lasted all of a season before being moved on and now Lukaku has upset him. As for Sanchez, I still don’t understand why we signed him. I almost believe it was to say yah boo to City. So Jose has spent a lot, bought a lot, and most of them haven’t worked out. Matic appears to be the only one which isn’t a great record.
4. I don’t detect a plan of any description. Watching the players walking around, with low intensity, and little idea is not fun.
5. We have shown we are good enough to beat the top teams and have done so. Yet we drop silly points against lower level opposition. That isn’t about talent, it is about attitude or motivation, 2 things the Manager should be able to influence.

I maintain that there are a lot of Managers would have got more out of our team than Jose has. The counter arguments are that we finished 2nd and I get that, someone like Poch has never won anything (true), we can’t keep changing the Manager every 2 years (why not? ), the players are dreadful (I just don’t buy that) .

My key issue is that I think he is on the decline and what used to work doesn’t work anymore. He seems scarred and distant, he is not the happy chirpy charismatic Manager we first met.

Forgive the irony of this comment but I think we have done this debate to death, I am now going to step away from it and try and focus on other things. I don’t like him and I’m bored so God knows how the more positive posters are feeling.

22 May 2018 19:17:11
No need to shout, like.

22 May 2018 19:42:24
Anyone who disagrees with me on subjective matters is just plain wrong!

22 May 2018 20:17:03
Good post ajh.

22 May 2018 20:36:19
AJH, See you haven't changed either ;) .

Let's agree to disagree on this one.

I think right now the City has much more important matters today and maybe we should focus on happier things.

Certainly going to be making some noise on here now I'm back.

22 May 2018 20:36:06
And of course none of those idiots would have been fans of other teams, jumping on the bandwagon and stirring the pot.

22 May 2018 23:32:03
Can't disagree with anything you said there ajh good post.



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