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07 Aug 2022 11:38:55
Any eds know of genuine interest for Leroy sarnie.

Magicsy

{Ed002's Note - One club enquired after him with Bayern and were told Sane was not for sale. I am pretty sure that there have been no offers and he will stay where he is. I doubt he would be interested in dropping..}down out of the Champions League in any case,


1.) 07 Aug 2022 12:03:12
Is he related to the Earl of Sandwich?

{Ed014's Note - ?‍♂️?


2.) 07 Aug 2022 12:14:25
Shaw would be delighted, he loves a sarnie.


3.) 07 Aug 2022 12:59:03
Unless it’s an Elvis special fools gold, Shaw won’t touch a sarnie.


 

 

06 Jul 2022 09:36:40
That's Andreas Pereira Going 10 mill to Fulham. Good deal tbh.
We have saved a fortune in wages an had little outlay, there must some considerable funds still to use.

Magicsy

1.) 06 Jul 2022 11:23:46
Good move all around. It also frees up some room for youngers to be in the quad.


 

 

05 Jul 2022 18:16:00
Hi guy
Edd 002
Or 001 do we have any relevant information regarding dybala an if we could make a move?
Would he be open to this.
Thx.

Magicsy

{Ed001's Note - he was close to joining Inter but they struggled to meet his financial demands, I don't know anything else about him, I expected that move to be done to be honest.}


1.) 05 Jul 2022 21:37:48
Very talented player but not sure he would suit the PL.


 

 

10 Jun 2022 18:48:45
Evening folks,
Does any edds have any information regarding rashford an if he would be made available if a fee was offered?
Is he valued as an asset, an does anyone know if any team are interested.

Magicsy

{Ed002's Note - Marcus Rashford (F) has an uncertain future at Manchester United although there has been no final decision. PSG have previously enquired although their interest has now gone. He may provide an option for Arsenal who could shift their interest to him. Newcastle and Spurs may well provide options. Right now he would be difficult to sell and perhaps a loan away would benefit him. The club is certainly considering options.}


1.) 10 Jun 2022 23:51:16
Time to sell, not good enough.


2.) 10 Jun 2022 23:51:35
Sell him ASAP. He's brutal. Arsenal can have him. We need better players than that.


3.) 11 Jun 2022 10:26:22
Thx for info 002 ?.


4.) 11 Jun 2022 12:52:01
English media act like he’s had a minor dip in form…. he’s been crap for nearly 2 years ?‍♂️?.


5.) 11 Jun 2022 16:27:59
Tim he spent 8-9 months of the season before injured with shoulder and ankle injuries and still scored 20 puls goals despite coming into the season after surgery on a back injury he'd suffered the season before.

This season he struggled he went to the euros which i think everyone can now see was a mistake it delayed surgery on the shoulder which then meant he didn't get much preaseason, on return he found a team in awful form and he ended up being rushed back into the team. When that happened he struggled for form and fitness with a team playing awful and a unhappy dressing room full of players being forced to stay who want to leave a new interim manager who these players decided not to listen to the form got worse and we continued to play crap.

Hes had a bad year but if you actually look into it there are reasons behind it yes he should have tried more done more but there wasnt a lot of that from any of our team last season he's not the only one who had a bad year.


6.) 11 Jun 2022 16:34:28
I’m not a big fan of him, but come on he not as crap as your all making out, what’s more you have no idea if the names being banded about as potentials are any better!
No one knows, perhaps he just did not see eye to eye with RR, and not over enthused by Ole, perhaps he had personal problems… but really! Come on, oh let’s pay 70 mil for someone because he plays for Ajax…. He will be fantastic.


7.) 11 Jun 2022 16:40:35
Spurs are in for Richarlison which presumably ends any interest they may have had in Rashford.

Interesting to see what happens with Rashford. Clearly our stance looks to be keep him and hope Ten Hag can reinvigorate a player who’s clearly flagged last 18 months. Have no issue with that and would love Rashford to come good again. But from a business perspective if we’d been offered anything north of £60m for him, given he’s one year left on his contract plus optional one year extension, it’s likely a mistake. I’d be disappointed in United if they gave Rashford any more favourable terms than his current contract if / when he looks to renew.

Love Rashford and genuinely hope he can kick on again. But 22/ 23 clearly make or break for him at United and he’s not a guaranteed starter for sure.


8.) 11 Jun 2022 16:51:11
Dbrooks are you Shappy in disguise? I promise i can dig out an exact same post from Shappy from sometime back defending that crap rashford.


9.) 11 Jun 2022 17:07:31
UA what's your point? If anything i said is wrong let me know, cheers.


10.) 11 Jun 2022 17:36:06
My point is if there was nothing wrong then you wouldn't have to defend him in the first place. All this out injured and unhappy dressing room crap is mere deflection from the fact that Rashford is an overrated one trick pony who has been found out by teams not giving him space in behind to run.


11.) 11 Jun 2022 18:31:24
In your opinion UA……. so going by what your saying Messi is crap too, did he not have an awful season last season, what’s he get 3 goals! So they should throw him on the scrap heap too……. Short memories some have got….


12.) 11 Jun 2022 18:46:05
I like rashford and before his injuries he was electric off the left. Whether he can get back to that is another question, but If ten hag wants to keep him around then that is good enough for me.


13.) 11 Jun 2022 19:01:50
Rashford is still a far better player with a higher ceiling than Elanga.


14.) 11 Jun 2022 19:18:02
So come on Duvin, i don't see you throwing excuses around for Messi are you?


15.) 11 Jun 2022 19:25:36
UA i never commented on how good a player rashford was just that tim said over the last 2 years he's been awful i presented facts about the last 2 seasons.

Which show 2 seasons ago he had a good year despite injuries and last year the whole team had a bad year.

If you want my opinion on rashford i think he's a good player who can do spectacular things but he sometimes over complicates things, i'm not sure you know what a 1 trick pony is as rashford has pace, a good long shot, and isn't too bad in the pass, and has decent movement. He often makes runs and rhe passes don't come he then gets frustrated comes short and tries to do to much, he needs to be patitent and keep trying to get in behind.

He needs a good season this year or i would probably agree it might be best for both for him to have a change of scenery but he certainly isn't crap he's just struggled at a team where everyones struggled there's a very good player there if he keeps patient focuses on getting in behind and using his pace and skill to kill teams. Also i think we should buy a left footed right winger this year and play him as a striker it would balance the team better.


16.) 11 Jun 2022 19:38:14
I’m also not throwing excuses around for Rashford, but I just think it’s a bit stupid to all of a sudden say every player at united is crap and replace them with even more unknown entities that have not even played in premiership, that’s a big gamble too, so if ETH thinks Rashford got a better starting point and he can be coached properly that’s good enough, I would rather take ETH opinion then yours. thanks.


17.) 11 Jun 2022 19:39:27
I think Rashford gets a year with Ten Hag to see if having a proper manager and coaching can cause him to kick on.

It's been mentioned before he basically hasn't developed, he was what he was 4 years ago, A guy with good top end speed who can hurt a team running at them in space and cut in from the left where he is a threat

He needs to develop another string or two to his bow however otherwise he is easy to defend against. Keep him from hurting you on the counter and slow man utd down at which point he won't hurt you, he can't unlock an organised defence as he lacks the creativity and intelligence to do it through skill, flair or movement.

Right now he is most use coming on against tired defenders or defending a narrow lead where space would open for him.

Countering this though is his current workrate which is dire.

He could be good under Klopp where after a successful press they transition quickly amd directly know goal. I am less convinced he would work in the City system where they sre more patient and create opening through organised patient series of movements which create gaps that they then attack.

I know it's not possible to assume Utd will play a very similar style to Ajax, Ten Hag was fitting into their style after all but I would say they are far closer to City than Liverpool in methodology.


18.) 11 Jun 2022 19:53:08
And we don’t exactly know how ETH will set up this year either I would think and hope he got more then one string to his bow.

He might have played a way that suited Ajax and the players he had there, don’t mean to say he will play that way here.

I still maintain that with a decent proper manager at united and the same team as last year, it beats ETH and his Ajax team more times out of 10 then it looses.

Yet people keep saying let’s buy Ajax players because there so much better then what we got…but are they?


19.) 12 Jun 2022 06:48:17
Perhaps we should give Rashford a season under ETH (I’m not a rashford fan) and some above posts do state injuries may have factored.

Injuries does not mean he can’t work hard! I’d have accepted his performances if he ran his socks every game, but he didn’t he had an half-arsed attitude. That’s unforgivable at this club.

{Ed001's Note - that depends on what the injury is. Michu was heavily criticised for not working hard enough but he had an injury where his ankle bones were grinding against each other every time he moved. It caused him severe pain, so he was unable to put in the work. So yes injuries can mean a player can't work hard.}


20.) 12 Jun 2022 07:45:54
Ed001 ok I agree so probably a poor example from myself but I personally don’t believe that was Rashfords issue. I mean there was times when he was seen walking when an opponent was attacking down his wing.

Personal opinion was that he gave up last season. Having said that like I said probably should be given a season under ETH.

{Ed001's Note - how would you know? He might simply have been unable to chase back or been ordered to stay up top to look to attack any spaces left.}


21.) 12 Jun 2022 08:04:01
I don’t know which is why I said it’s my opinion he gave up, my opinion was he looked half-arsed. Maybe I am wrong it’s just an opinion.

{Ed001's Note - it just seems a harsh assumption to make of a lad who has never shown any signs of being that type of person.}


22.) 12 Jun 2022 11:59:05
Ed001,

I totally agree, I think there is something going on that we don’t know about with Rashford, his form has dipped so much and he looked like there was something not right for him. Before that he was very good, scored a lot of important goals and was a main part of the team. People have very short memories. I don’t think he’s the kind of person to give up and he’s never said anything bad about the club, fingers crossed a summer off can do him the world of good and he comes back refreshed under a new manager.


23.) 12 Jun 2022 14:08:45
I’m with GDS here. Rashford is quality and one if our own. Should be shown more respect and given the change under ETH.

For years we’ve all moaned about getting a proper coach to improve our players. Now we have that coach and all we want to do is ship everyone out. Bit of a joke really.


24.) 12 Jun 2022 15:25:49
Rashford's attitude and work rate on the pitch has been disgusting in the last year.
Even if a player is out of form, the basic qualities to fight for the team shouldn't be impacted.


25.) 12 Jun 2022 15:53:40
We have to see how he does under ETH, if things just click into place then the last year will be forgotten anyway.


26.) 12 Jun 2022 15:55:56
TRD, not necessarily so I’m afraid, you have no idea what he been told to do, you have no Idea what goes on, on the training pitch.
He does not seem the sort of person to just give up or be half arsed, and if that was the case why would the so called manager not drag him off there and then and why would he even put him on.

Let’s see how he does this season, after all you also have no idea if the players being mentioned are ant better then him, and TBF from what Sancho as shown in the premier i'm not even sure he is in front of him to be honest.


27.) 13 Jun 2022 10:53:49
Ed001, exactly why I'm at a loss as to why Rashford took his foot off the way he did.

I am just hoping that something was up, and I believe that is the case be it injury or something else. He has always given 100 percent and I believe he should be given the benefit of the doubt.

Hoping he can turn a lad because he is a top lad.

{Ed001's Note - it does seem out of character for him, which is why I don't think he just gave up, it is not the way the lad is built.}


 

 

27 Aug 2021 12:37:40
Ed 002
Is there any likelihood United will push for Ronaldo, bookies are slashing odds atm.

Magicsy

{Ed002's Note - I think it unlikely. MU have already had their chance to declare an interest.}


1.) 27 Aug 2021 12:45:45
Bookies are slashing the odds because of a tweet from Rio Ferdinand.


2.) 27 Aug 2021 13:08:39
All I'm seeing is "so your telling me there's a chance"


3.) 27 Aug 2021 13:16:22
I wouldn’t of thought there was a chance had city not been interested. Will the club allow city to move for him and Take the backlash that comes with it? I don’t know.


4.) 27 Aug 2021 13:38:58
Interesting press conference from ole!


5.) 27 Aug 2021 13:48:20
Oh yes I forgot that the sun journalists are much more in the know than Rio.


6.) 27 Aug 2021 14:02:47
Well seeing this from Ed has burst my bubble, Fabrizio and a number of other United journalists seem to think we are keen and making an offer.

{Ed077's Note - things can always change though}


7.) 27 Aug 2021 14:13:31
I didn’t even want him until about an hour ago haha my opinion has changed so hopefully the situation has as well.


8.) 27 Aug 2021 14:15:58
Fab on twitter has said we have now declared interest.


9.) 27 Aug 2021 14:23:59
Is it genuine interest or just an attempt to say we've tried to keep the gullible kool-aid drinking fans onside?


10.) 27 Aug 2021 14:26:55
Ed - thanks as always for the info at the time you are asked; second to none.

Regarding squad numbers, if Ronaldo was to sign, have we made sufficient space in the squad?

{Ed002's Note - Surely you can work it out.}


11.) 27 Aug 2021 14:51:49
You would have thought so!
I recall Tuanzebe counting as one of the >21 players creating space but I thought there was another we needed to ‘lose’.


12.) 27 Aug 2021 14:58:13
i think cavani might be off

wants to go back to south america.


13.) 27 Aug 2021 15:21:14
Thanks bolger2.


14.) 27 Aug 2021 15:21:27
Just love Ed002’s snippets of information! Not being the brightest, can hypothesise any of the following to try to work things out:

1. Marketing ploy by Glazers to increase brand awareness, value and shirt sales, as well as making big gesture to disgruntled supporters. Glazers signed Tom Brady - work same at United?

2. Lingard off to West Ham or Dalot off to Dortmund to make space for him/ contribute towards wages

3. Cavani not coming back so Ronaldo replacing him

4. Just wish United would sign a midfielder though - wonderful having amazing attack, but Matic and Fred in midfield and Donny not fitting the system. Just hope we get Saul on loan or Neves…

Dare say poor Ed002 being bombarded with posts now to explain things! Guess we must wait for the Gentleman Explorer to clarify things for us if he has time or the inclination!

(If Ed002 is kind enough to add his omniscient knowledge, would be very grateful to hear if, should Ronaldo arrive, we would still be interested in signing a midfielder! )

{Ed002's Note - 1. The shirt sales don't help. 2. €675k per week was enough to put off MC. 3. £15M or thereabouts to get out of the contract with Cavani. 4. Need to move one on first.}


15.) 27 Aug 2021 15:24:21
Agree bolger cavani and his desire to play for Uruguay which is probably his chance to see his family and why he's so determined have probably pushed the club to act.

Could also be a way to get rid of pogba.


16.) 27 Aug 2021 15:38:58
Thanks Ed002. From the information you give, looks like bringing Ronaldo in would be a challenge: high wages, compete with Cavani and having to make space in tbe squad.

Again, I’d much rather we use any flexibility we have/ can create to sign a midfielder….


17.) 27 Aug 2021 15:54:13
Now BBC are running it as a story I tend to think there is a real liklihood of it happening.


18.) 27 Aug 2021 16:57:08
Done deal united confirmed it.

{Ed014's Note - brilliant 😂😂


19.) 27 Aug 2021 17:10:24
You can literally feel the saltiness coming from one of the Ed’s, it’s fantastic.

{Ed014's Note - I know fella, it’s the best thing to happen all window! 😂😂


20.) 27 Aug 2021 17:16:22
Now that is a transfer window, any chance of a dm and a rb too? 😂😂😂.


21.) 27 Aug 2021 17:21:45
Conflicted feelings here:

Yep, will get goals

But

Huge wages that could disrupt wage structure and dressing room (like we never learned from Sanchez)

Not very mobile at tracking back, so rest of team have to compensate for him (and Pogba mot great at doing this)

Nostalgic rather than practical and what we need. With Cavani, now be Dad’s Army of premiership

We desperately need a midfielder (especially McTom injured: Fred and Matic…) and Donny more attacking midfield than box to box. Just wish we could get Saul now for a year on loan then permanent to replace Pogba when he leaves on a free next year

So yes, legend returns, but too much of a romantic gesture than making us contenders - Liverpool, City and Chelsea still have much more quality and depth throughout their squads.


22.) 27 Aug 2021 17:35:33
Leaves McT, Fred and Matic in midfield (can’t really include Pogba, Bruno and Donny as attacking midfield)

So great defence and attach, but midfield….


23.) 27 Aug 2021 17:45:05
Wallace,

That’s assuming we don’t push for a midfielder as well.


24.) 27 Aug 2021 17:57:36
Here’s hoping GDS2: maybe strengthen the Portuguese contingent with Neves…

(Can dream)


25.) 27 Aug 2021 18:00:42
Ronaldo left OT in 2009: both Carrick and Fletcher playing in midfield then.

Happy reunions all-round!


26.) 27 Aug 2021 18:01:40
Romano saying we're in serious talks since yesterday and the club are currently negotiating figures. Odd times.


 

 

 

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05 Aug 2022 07:08:21
Does anyone think that the league in which we are in nowadays, Compared to the league we had with fergie and the teams we had think we would make top 2?
I'd disagree, Liverpool and man City would still be ahead in league status and champions league status.
Teams around us are also far better in terms of quality.

Magicsy

1.) 05 Aug 2022 07:51:37
I’d still take United of then over them 2 teams you mention. It’s really hard to compare the eras tho.


2.) 05 Aug 2022 09:31:24
I still think the United team in 08 was the best british side I have seen in my lifetime so far.


3.) 05 Aug 2022 10:33:01
Comparing eras is pointless. The United side we had under Sir Alex showed a grit and determination to overcome all obstacles in their way.

Maybe they didn't hit 99 points in a season, but then no one pushed them to have to hit 99 points.

You beat what is in front of you.

I'd also argue that the league is less competitive than it was 20 years ago.

With less of the "smaller" teams causing upsets against the "big" sides. With the gap between those at the bottom and those at the top being closer.

The fact that until about 10 years ago only 2 or 3 sides had ever stayed in the EPL with less than 40 points. Whereas in the past 5 years 9 teams have achieved EPL survival with a tally of less than 40 points.

That proves that as a whole the league is less competitive with the gap between the bottom and the top widening.

More often than not the league has always been a fight between two sides. United and Arsenal in the late 90's/ early 00's. Then United and Chelsea during the early Abramovic era. Then United and City during the twilight of Sir Alex's career. Then City and Chelsea, with it now being City and Liverpool.

It always ends up as a fight between two sides, with 3 or 4 sides fighting it out for best of the rest/ UCL places.

United have just slipped into that second category since Sir Alex retired. It's not more competitive, it's just gone from us fighting with 1 side for the title to us fighting with 3-4 sides for top four.

I'm fairly confident that if we had Sir Alex and he spent 1.4bn over the past 10 years that we would be up there with 90+ point finishes right now.


4.) 05 Aug 2022 10:52:10
Fergie toppled everyone domestically. He would have came out on top here too eventually.

Look at any sport from different eras and try to imagine what the best would look like in the modern era.

Phil Taylor won many World Darts titles with what would be now considered a low average score. Mid 80s to 90s. Now that wouldn't get you passed the first round of most tournaments. But as the professionalism got better, so did the standards. He would then go onto win with averages of 110/ 120.

Look at Michael Jordan. He played basketball at a time when it was arguably a lot more physically competitive. Stick him in today's game and the amount of free throws alone the man would be gifted he'd be smashing records. His 3 point game would have to evolve to catch up but improving his game was a strong suit for him.

Back to our best Premier League teams. When we were pushed we could rise to the occasion. City and Liverpool push each other week in week out. They have managers who are relentless and I don't think for one second Fergie wouldn't be able to keep up the pace in the league.

Football has become a lot more robotic. City are drilled so well that everything becomes so mechanical. Liverpool are like that also but seem to have more flair about them. Our teams (and football in general) were a bit more chaotic. Like a boxer who would be constantly looking for that knockout blow but leaving yourself open at times was accepted.

Tactics have changed. Wide players now get crazy numbers in terms of goals. Two strikers havnt been seen in a very long time so you're betting mainly on the manager, and only an idiot would bet against Fergie being unable to compete domestically with Pep and Klopp.


5.) 05 Aug 2022 11:38:27
So the standards are better?
The fitness is better, and the tactic are better.
So in essence the top two would probably beat our old side.
An probably the top 6 would be of the same struggles we have now.?


6.) 05 Aug 2022 12:04:10
Magicsy,

I would love to have seen Rooney Ronaldo and Tevez in their prime vs Mane Salah and Firmino.

The thing is when you compare era's it is difficult to say definitively. But when you look at world class players, they could play in any era.


7.) 05 Aug 2022 12:11:17
Magicsy

Comparing eras is foolish.

For starters, a prime Giggs now would destroy everyone - Rashford would be seldom seen.
Then you have the likes of Scholes, Cantona, Beckham, Ruud, Rooney.

Any attacking 5 from those players when even near their pomp would absolutely be the best in the league.

Then you have Robson - a player who was far better than Gerrard.
Then Irwin - imo, the best LB seen in the PL era.
Then Stam - would have been one of the top 3 in world football in any era.

Ultimately, the Liverpool and City players of now would have struggled more in a more physical game.
The game, even 10 years ago, was different, so eras cannot really be compared without gauging so many different aspects, and there'd still be nothing tangible to work with because players develop differently to the inherent nature of the football they'll be presented with.

For instance, do we know how Keane would have developed now? The Nevilles?

I personally think that now, in this age of pampered players with primary focus on image, Fergie would need to be different. Do you think he'd be able to adapt?

United were successful in the eras where all the relevant boxes were ticked - the same applies to every successful team.

I miss the glory day but, as a spectacle, the modern game is arguably better. However that does not mean the current players would have survived as well in another era - it just doesn't work like that.


8.) 05 Aug 2022 13:54:12
Magicsy, that isn't what I'm saying at all.

The standard overall has dropped, the bottom teams do not have the ability to pose as many questions to the top sides. As such they tend to get worse results.

In reality what has happened is physicality has been removed from the game, meaning smaller sides with smaller budgets are being forced to try and play in a similar way to the top sides. Obviously though they cannot bring in the players of the same standard. So they end up poorer imitations of the top sides.


9.) 05 Aug 2022 14:20:30
I’d say our treble winning team would probably come 3rd now. But to be fair they are all in their 40’s and 50’s!


10.) 05 Aug 2022 19:23:52
Who’s to say with all the sport science nowadays we wouldn’t be stronger with them players? Who says Fergie wouldn’t adapt his methods to suite the new era? It’s all ifs and buts. So hard to say really.


11.) 05 Aug 2022 20:07:56
Could you imagine how good a player like Best would be now with his abilities, with modern balls, playing on the snooker table like surfaces rather than the quagmire he played on, with no drinking a proper diet and defenders not trying to GBH him.


12.) 06 Aug 2022 10:13:15
Yorkie who is a very good friend of mine, says the united team of his era would smash all these teams today. He raves about how good irwin, scholes and some the guys that team had. He has had a very dim view if our current team for a few years. He does hold rashford very high in this squad and reckons he is one off our best player.


13.) 06 Aug 2022 15:20:30
Fergie would have found a way.


 

 

26 Jul 2022 18:24:35
Personally I think he is gone
Not once has he quashed the rumours.
But has with other rumours.
Plus Mendes been here, all points to quiting the club.
I'm all for it.
Let's get Anthony in. He is a special player, perhaps the new Ronaldo.

Magicsy

1.) 26 Jul 2022 20:57:52
The sponsors may be unhappy if the main attraction is leaving, also those who bought shares on the back of Ron’s arrival, plus the bean counters who look at income streams.

It was a move, to buy him, of pure folly. Let him go, time to move on. Buy a young hungry striker like Sesko at RBS instead of waiting for someone else to buy him, wait for him to be £100m in 12 months.

Never heard as much dross as the rumour Ron may be loaned out for a year to come back on an emotional last year fairwell. If there was one shred of truth in that the club should be embarrassed. It screams of income stream panic.

The club need to stop the emotional tosh and move on from Ron, now, and look at.


2.) 26 Jul 2022 22:35:25
Me and my rum completely agree. Imagine him going and martial, rashford, sancho and hopefully greenwood miraculously firing us into the top 4 only for a 40 year old ronaldo come in to take their place. Get shut.


3.) 27 Jul 2022 05:22:29
Red Man ???.


4.) 27 Jul 2022 09:16:21
When we signed Ronaldo I voiced concerns that he probably wasn't the right signing for us at the time. Although my inner child was of course happy at the thought of seeing him in a United shirt once again.

Very much a case of my heart wanting one thing and my head saying another.

Lots of people argue for Ronaldo with the only line they have "where would United have finished without Ronaldo's goals".

Yet that ignores the fact that we had our worst ever EPL season with Ronaldo a part of the team, we created less goals and we scored more goals, we conceded more chances and we conceded more goals, we made more mistakes and we had less possession and less control.

It ignore the fact that if Ronaldo wasn't in the team then someone else would have been, maybe they'd have scored as many goal, maybe more, maybe they would have helped the side play more as a team than as 10 players trying to create chances for the other 1. Maybe as a collective the team would have scored more goals.

Maybe all our forward players get an extra 5-10 goals each, which means we score more overall. I think people forget that football is a team game and not about individuals. Three forwards scoring 15 goals each is far better than 1 forward scoring 25 goals and the other 2 picking up 5 each. You score more goals and you are less one dimensional and harder to defend against. It also allows for one player to be having an off day and the team can still score enough to win.

Last season we weren't Manchester United, we were Ronaldo United, and we had our worst season as a result.

As such if the club can find a solution to allow Ronaldo to leave, no matter where it is he goes, then that is probably best for the team moving forward.


5.) 27 Jul 2022 10:59:27
Not Greenwood Bodger.

Stain on the club. Personally, I'd be done with the club if he's brought back.


6.) 27 Jul 2022 11:00:47
Hopefully Greenwood? Hopefully Greenwood never plays for the club again.


7.) 27 Jul 2022 12:52:22
Red Man, well said. I was one of the ones who supported the Ronaldo signing. But I realise now that although he had a productive scoring season, the team suffered and team spirit disappeared.
James, I was shocked and annoyed for what Greenwood did to that poor girl, however, thankfully we live in a tolerant society which aims to reform people like Greenwood. If we are to throw them under the bus, then we might as well give up on our free society and the belief that we can correct people. What he did was abhorrent, but hopefully our society and support can help the lady in question and aim to reform Greenwood. If we lose faith in the judicial system, then we might as well go back to the dark ages.


8.) 27 Jul 2022 13:28:46
AAA, there is a world of difference between someone having the chance to reform and learn from their mistakes and someone who does what Mason did.

He hasn't owned up, apologised or shown any remorse.

He isn't sorry for what he did, only that he got caught. He'd do it again no doubt.

He should not be allowed to play for our club again, and he shouldn't have the good fortune to hold a privileged position as a footballer earning millions of pounds while treating women the way he has/ does.

The club need to wash their hands of him and speak out against such actions. I appreciate that there are legal and contractual issues that might currently stop the club from acting in this manner, but the moment they can they should move him out the door.

I wouldn't even let him train with the reserves let alone play for the first team. I never want to see him wear the shirt again.


9.) 27 Jul 2022 14:05:10
AAA,

The guy is scum. You heard the audio right? How you think anyone can cheer that man anymore, is beyond me.

If that was your daughter, would you be happy to watch him carry on and earn millions?

Hes tarnished our club. Get rid as soon as legally possible.


10.) 27 Jul 2022 15:04:05
I do repsectfully agree with your posts if he is charged and found guilty. However until he is then i'm willing to keep an open mind. Innocent until proven guilty and all that. If he isn't charged with anything it will be interesting to see how the club handle it. let's hope its sorted and has zero effect on the team going into the new season.


11.) 27 Jul 2022 16:11:08
Bodgerico, normally I tend to agree with the innocent until proven guilty, normally because the evidence isn't seen by the general public.

Yet the images and recording have been seen/ heard by the general public. While crimes of this nature are notoriously difficult to prove in court where reasonable doubt is enough to get someone off and where what counts as reasonable doubt is so open to personal interpretation.

I have been on a jury for a sexual assault case, and its a horrible experience. The case I was on went to retrial as we couldn't come to even a split 11-1 decision let alone a unanimous decision, entirely due to two young people (18 and 19) who were indecisive and for who the responsibility was too much. If just one of them felt differently then the man would have been found guilty.

Mason is guilty, whether they can go to court and prove it or not.


12.) 27 Jul 2022 16:42:08
James and Shappy, did I say I wanted him to play for us again?
And I said that what he did was abhorrent. However, as Bodgerico says and I eluded to, we must have trust in the judicial system. When they make their decision, then United can act accordingly. We've fought for 800 years to become a tolerant society, so we can't just say that in this case we should ignore the law or the system.
If and when he's found guilty, then United will do the right thing.
If he doesn't reform, then I'm sure he'll end up in deep trouble at some stage of his life, but if he reforms and is genuinely remorseful, then our society is geared to allow him to live in peace.
The girl in question might never be the same, so I'm not trivialising the situation. I stand by my beliefs that our judicial system must be trusted to do the right thing.


13.) 27 Jul 2022 17:03:20
AAA, so are you saying that the judicial system is perfect?

Do you believe that not a single innocent person has gone to prison and not a single guilty person has avoided punishment?


14.) 27 Jul 2022 17:55:55
Shappy, of course nothing is perfect. But that doesn't mean that we do not trust and abide by it. History is full of injustices, but in 99.9% of cases, justice is right. If Greenwood is found guilty, then he'll receive what he deserves. In the unlikely event he's found innocent, then you and me will have to accept the court ruling. That's how our justice system works.
I'm sure the jury and court will arrive at the right decision.


15.) 27 Jul 2022 18:37:48
AAA, that's the thing though. He'll never be found "innocent".

He might be found not guilty, but all that really means is there wasn't deemed enough evidence to convict beyond reasonable doubt.

While it might not even go to court. Rumours of financial deals being offered to the victim to not press charges or testify.

Will you consider Greenwood innocent if he pays the victim to avoid going to court?


16.) 27 Jul 2022 20:29:27
I agree that the video recordings everyone has heard is sufficiently disgusting that he should be punished.

But I do believe in reform and if the video stuff is actually the worst of it (hopefully it is for the girls sake) then I do believe there is a chance he could play for us if the following things happen.

He serves any sentence legally handed down to him (remember this is based on video stuff being the worst of the actions)

He is provided with extensive character rehabilitation funded by the club (no training or any football in this time)

The victim should also be provided with whatever services she requires for rehabilitation funded by the club.

In order for the rehab to be considered effective would be at least 18 months for greenwood, for the victim it could be a lifetime and we should provide that if necessary.

So by the time mason could ever be considered to represent our club again, it would be 3 years away at least.

It would be good if we could save this man from a lifetime of being a prick, but all thoughts and efforts should really be with the victim first and foremost.

I appreciate this is an incredibly speculative post, but it’s more what I hope could happen, because, for the victims sake, I don’t want It to be any worse.


17.) 28 Jul 2022 17:17:27
No matter what the outcome, how could you ever stomach seeing him in a Utd shirt ever again, never mind cheer him on?


 

 

15 Jul 2022 15:04:05
Ericsson is in really excited about him. Brilliant player.

Magicsy

1.) 15 Jul 2022 15:55:20
When you look at how we want to play I think Ericson could have a big part to play, he is tidy on the ball and has good pass on him as well as good dead ball player.
He can play in the midfield or outside left/ right so will give some versatility.
Watching the 2 games so far I think it is obvious that we are still strugling to transition between the back and forward players and i think he will help with that.


2.) 15 Jul 2022 16:03:45
Not to mention the EL aswell. He will come in handy this season and will allow Bruno to be rested aswell.


3.) 15 Jul 2022 16:13:21
Martinez has great long passing accuracy (top in the Dutch league) . Maybe we can just bypass the midfield altogether.


4.) 15 Jul 2022 16:29:00
Sounds better than relying on mctom trying to run midfield.


5.) 15 Jul 2022 17:07:47
I'm seeing Christian Eriksen's name being spelt in all sorts of crazy ways ??. All jokes aside though lads I'm very happy with this signing. Shrewd bit of business ?.


6.) 15 Jul 2022 19:42:05
Massive upgrade on what we have, esp mctom who is incredible at positioning himself in the 1 and only place a pass can't be placed. Even fred makes himself available 10 times more often and as for young savage and Zidane, they look like the established players compared to him.


 

 

12 Jul 2022 16:14:06
'Where going to win the league'
What a player that bailly is.

Magicsy

1.) 12 Jul 2022 19:24:10
I think Iqbal played really well in the second half.
He was playing DM, he does need to become stronger but his touch of the ball was really good and with time he kept growing into the game.
There were a couple of good aerial passes, he was very quick with his passing as well against a very difficult midfield to play against.
I'd be really interested to see how he fares in the future.


2.) 12 Jul 2022 20:01:28
Iqbal showed some good stuff. Rumours are eth is extremely impressed with him.


3.) 12 Jul 2022 22:01:04
He was questioning why he wasn't already featuring in first team last season I think. Iqbal probably grew 2 inches when he heard that. (I mean in height you dirty minded posters! )


4.) 12 Jul 2022 22:21:28
There are a few players I was really curious to see this pre season.

Laird, Mejbri, Garnacho and Tuanzebe.
I'll add Iqbal to this list now.


 

 

27 Dec 2021 21:03:46
Why are my posts on live match page not going through?

Magicsy

{Ed0666's Note - Is vegetarianism the pathway to spiritual enlightenment?


1.) 27 Dec 2021 21:17:15
I've no idea.
But when I type a post it won't show on a simple live chat board.
I mean.
I build houses and extensions.
I have an award for our company for such things.
But i can't figure out why I can't add to our pages live chat.


2.) 27 Dec 2021 22:31:06
Can you paint?

{Ed014's Note - I’ve held his last post back for ed033 who is the tech wizard so hopefully he’ll check it out and sort it for him.


3.) 27 Dec 2021 22:03:39
It seems we have views that enable or unable us to post how's about that for freedom of views.

{Ed033's Note - Isn't it obvious if you can't post on live chat it's because an ed used the ban button?

i used the unban button.


4.) 27 Dec 2021 21:43:35
Rather than talk in riddles could you not guide me to why this is so?
Cheers.

{Ed0666's Note - this is exactly what I say to my wife about 200 times a day. I still to this day get riddles.


 

 

 

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11 Jun 2022 10:26:22
Thx for info 002 ?.

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25 Dec 2021 23:58:36
Ty ed002.

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11 Dec 2021 00:26:06
I think he was gone prior to ralf.
Gut has been dreadful for ever now.
Work ethic is awful.
An to lay for man utd. U should be walking around with a smile.
90k a week.
Playing for man utd.
Doing what u enjoy.
What a job!

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22 Nov 2021 12:49:21
Erm fox you do know that ole is sacked, must of been on the moon.

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27 Aug 2021 14:15:58
Fab on twitter has said we have now declared interest.

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05 Aug 2022 11:38:27
So the standards are better?
The fitness is better, and the tactic are better.
So in essence the top two would probably beat our old side.
An probably the top 6 would be of the same struggles we have now.?

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18 Jul 2022 21:54:59
Probably has some truth to that shappy.
It's a clever way to save money for sure.
The player could be sms.

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17 Jul 2022 14:13:51
You more so no.14 ?.

Magicsy

{Ed014's Note - I am worried about you boys mate, I’m not looking forward to the moaning if you don’t replace every player and end up 8th.

You’ve got some much crap to get rid of still.


 

 

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16 Jul 2022 08:51:07
Bailly played at least 2 terrible passes that normally would be 2 goals lost.

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16 Jul 2022 08:49:43
Once martinez starts a game we will find out if we need a dm.
Donny as haag says is best playing in an around the striker.
Unfortunately it seems we don't have one.

Magicsy