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30 Jul 2020 11:51:46
Anybody interested in taking Chong on loan for next season at the moment Ed’s?


{Ed002's Note - Not that I am aware.}



16 Jul 2020 09:24:22
Reports stating we are now possibly looking at Thiago Alcantara. nonsense 002?


{Ed002's Note - Thiago Alcantara (CM/DM) was expected to extend at Bayern Munich but looking at options - Juventus may be interested, and Manchester United might see him as an option. LIverpool have not approached Bayern Munich and has no agreement regardless of what the Fat Kid From Bolton and his invisible friend says. Bayern Munich expected Thiago to extend at Bayern Munich but they do not want to pay more than the €12M a year he is currently on. Bayern Munich have said that they have not been approached by any other side since an enquiry from Juventus and have explicitly stated that Liverpool have not approached them.}

1.) 16 Jul 2020 10:03:29
Thiago's ability to receive the ball from the defence and progress it through midfield would be a brilliant asset to have. We have struggled for years in this regard and while he is a less attack minded player than Grealish, I'd say he would help our attacking play even more.

2.) 16 Jul 2020 10:25:55
Where would he fit in? Would he get into the starting 11? Would he be happy on the bench? I mean. he’s not got the height or physical prowess to replace Matic and I definitely can’t see him starting over Bruno or Pogba.

I also think it doesn’t look good going for a player we chased after years ago, just like Kroos.

3.) 16 Jul 2020 10:41:22
I would be surprised if we went for him. He is getting on a little and hasn’t got the best injury record. Quality at what he does though as rj mentions.

4.) 16 Jul 2020 10:52:54
Him not starting every game may be an issue, potentially as will a salary of 12m + a year. But at the 40m price mentioned, he will be good value overall. I see him as an excellent option when we get pressed by teams similar to Southampton earlier in the week. He is excellent at receiving the ball and keeping it or playing it behind. Our midfield lacks ball control and creativity beyond pogba and bruno and we do not want to run Bruno / Pogba into the ground and ruin them. He also adds experience and is a serial winner - is pals with DeGea from their spain u21 days and is the right age not to block any youngsters coming into the team.
If the 5 substitutions per game becomes the norm next season, which i expect it to, then thiago will play at least 30 games a season, starting 15-20 of them. This week was the first time we played the same team for 4 games in a row in the last 20 years. We can't do that for 38 games next season!
When Kevin Debruyne can sit on the bench and understand that its a squad game - so can Thiago Alcantara. Moreover, if he wants to come to the premier league, our planned style of play will suit him the well unless he wants to go to city and join Pep.
I hope we go for him, but i doubt it will happen. Fingers crossed though.

5.) 16 Jul 2020 11:10:01
I have always been impressed with Alcantara.
Very good vision and passing ability.
He can dictate play from deep and provide killer balls to our pacey forwards.

Another technically good player with proven pedigree. I think his experience can prove to be valuable for our young squad.

6.) 16 Jul 2020 11:24:51
He would have been great had we got him when he went to munich but at the wages and fees and injuries? No brainer for me -spend the cash on Saul- For other regarded positions: test inters resolve with Skriniar and for the right wing try and get Chiesa instead of Sancho. Would be more than happy with that trio in.

7.) 16 Jul 2020 13:02:01
Cracking player. He is 29 not 39. People talk about him like he is over the hill 😂.

8.) 16 Jul 2020 13:19:11
I'd rip bayern arm off for him, fabulous footballer.

9.) 16 Jul 2020 13:47:12
If he played 30 plus games a season he would be fantastic to have.
Personally I'd be surprised he has a poor injury record and is not the profile of player we are linked with recently.
If pogba stays it gives us some great options.
No harm at all getting a real experienced high class player in if his attitude desire hunger and professionalism is high class too. Proven winner.
Would be a Great option to have imo.

10.) 16 Jul 2020 14:51:19
Fantastic player, but I'm not sure he is the type of player we should be looking at. If Pogba leaves then he would be a great replacement in that deeper creative role.

But I think midfield of Thiago, Pogba and Bruno although aesthetically pleasing might lack enough grit and defensive nous to be successful across a season.

Also I don't think his age, cost and injury record fits the clubs ideal profile for new signings.

11.) 16 Jul 2020 14:59:53
4-4-2 with a midfield diamond would be the only way to fit thiago, pogba and bruno in the same side.

Only see it happening if pogba gets a move away.

12.) 16 Jul 2020 14:59:53
4-4-2 with a midfield diamond would be the only way to fit thiago, pogba and bruno in the same side.

Only see it happening if pogba gets a move away.

13.) 16 Jul 2020 15:27:29
Id take him over Grealish all day.

14.) 16 Jul 2020 15:51:18
agree singh but saul would be a) the better profile of playerb) the better value long term and imo the better player out of the 2- can but wish eh?

15.) 16 Jul 2020 16:16:43
Would add flexibility to the team and certainly could help with rotating Pogba and Bruno. One for the more technically minded but would he fit in with the 4222 that we have heard historically Olly likes.

16.) 16 Jul 2020 16:19:49
Doubt we will get Saul if Pogba stays so it makes sense to get Thiago and wait for a year or two to replace Matic with Saul if he is still available.

17.) 16 Jul 2020 17:49:23
Don't need a another Bastian Schweinstger. Plus at that wrong age now. Sign him for 3 years before performance will drop. Plus he would be a replacement for Pogba. Plus can he hack it on a rainy night down in Stoke. Bundesliga a decent league but the Premier League something else. I rather play McTominay or give James Garner more of a opportunity.

18.) 17 Jul 2020 23:12:13
Thomas Partey would be an awesome signing for us if Pogba stays. Sadly we can't be interested in every player out there.



14 Jul 2020 08:39:15
For 002 if around. Any progress on the search for a right winger? You mentioned trying to sell a move to Manchester to Chiesa, is it a possibility?


{Ed002's Note - Nothing has changed from what I have previously stated as far as I know.}

1.) 14 Jul 2020 10:26:45
I still can't look beyond Willian. I know Ed2 has shut that down on numerous occasions but if he's available he'd be immense for a few seasons. Quality and works his socks off.

2.) 14 Jul 2020 10:52:18
Chiesa is a cracking player, but I do worry about the idea that we need to convince him to leave Italy. Italian players have a very patchy record when they've moved outside of Italy.

If the kid doesn't want to leave Italy then how long will it be before he wants to go back.

I don't think we should be having to convince any player to sign for us. It's not like we are a club they will have never heard of, players know who Manchester United are. History suggests very few players who don't want to sign for a club do and succeed.

3.) 14 Jul 2020 11:31:36
Willian is going to command a huge wage and I fear it will likely end in tears as it did with Sanchez. He’s likely to lose his pace.

4.) 14 Jul 2020 13:42:51
Willian, as good as he might be, is not the direction we should be looking in my opinion.

5.) 14 Jul 2020 15:13:17
Willian is not an option as i understand it. He will either renew with Chelsea he wants 3 years. Or he will probably sign for spurs. His family are settled in London and they have other business interests there too.

{Ed002's Note - And Manchester United have shown no interest.}

6.) 14 Jul 2020 21:42:21
Chiesa is a quality player though sounds as though he’s waiting for a bigger Italian club to come in for him?

7.) 15 Jul 2020 07:55:46
Big step for anyone to leave their home country shappy. Maybe not simply the case trying to convince him to join United. Maybe an Ed can elaborate on why he needs convincing.

But it's always a tough decision to make, leaving your home, no matter how big a job opportunity is presented.

Could also be the case, that once he gets here and settles, he might be absolutely fine. I think it's unfair to dismiss it at this point without knowing the facts.

{Ed002's Note - It is taking a youngster out of his comfort zone of sunny Italy with the wonderful Mediterranean food and the beautiful girls laughing as they zip around on their Vespas to move to the grim, wet and cobbled streets of Northwest of England where there would be a significant cultural change, overweight tattooed women pushing wheelchairs with kids who look like their brothers, smog, dead & dying pit ponies laying on the street, little chance of football at the highest level and only chips and fried curry to eat.}

8.) 15 Jul 2020 09:22:34
Thanks ed, I heard that's exactly what his thinking is 😂

I heard he wasn't too keen on watching every episode of Corrie either.

9.) 15 Jul 2020 09:52:31
I don’t think Ed002 has been to Manchester since the 1800s, it gives us more of an idea of his / her age at least!

10.) 15 Jul 2020 12:24:12

I think Manchester is a lovely place. Always enjoy my trips up there. Some beautiful spots for players to live there too. Cheshire has some lovely spots.

Always a culture shock though for any southern European player moving there. Especially if they are young.

I'd imagine it's the sale of moving to the UK rather than the move to United.

11.) 16 Jul 2020 16:53:53
Come on ed002 have you seen Angela's ashes? Manchester is paradise compared to rural Ireland were the kids are still educated in bush schools before a 6 hour shift picking potatoes in the fields😂
Im not sure what it is, obviously a cultural thing but Spanish players seem to travel and settle a lot better than Italian players into England.

{Ed002's Note - I have not seen it Ken. Players from some countries struggle to settle in England.}



03 Jul 2020 18:01:55
002, is it true thiago alcantara is available? Seen articles relating to Liverpool interest at a fairly reasonable price of around 30mil.

If we weren’t interested at that then I’d be worried. Give pogba his wish to leave and then bring him in! Probably messed it up when Moyes turned him down like! Yet again an amateur decision.


{Ed002's Note - Manchester United cannot be interested in every player - they have clear targets and a 29 year old Thiago is not one of them. The problem goes away if Pogba stays.}

1.) 03 Jul 2020 19:23:21
Ignore my last comment I've found a post lower down


2.) 03 Jul 2020 19:19:31
Fair enough Ed thanks for the insight. As always much appreciated, hope you’re keeping well!

3.) 03 Jul 2020 19:21:21
Ed has there been any approach to offer pogba a new contract

I know it's a pain talking about him bit I have searched and didn't find anything about a new contract.

Have things changed


{Ed002's Note - I really don't know but it would need to go through his agent and up until not too long ago there was no communication with him.}



09 Mar 2020 18:32:48
Chong signs.


1.) 09 Mar 2020 19:46:48
Think he's a real talent, good he has signed but maybe a loan next year would be good for him. A season at another prem team or even the championship would be great. If united get sancho etc can't see him playing a lot of games.

2.) 09 Mar 2020 22:28:39
Strange that it's only until 2022 tho. Glad he has signed a deal.

3.) 10 Mar 2020 07:41:14
Option for 3rd year, I guess he has two years to prove himself.

4.) 10 Mar 2020 08:19:25
I think from his perspective he won't want to be tied down to a long term deal if he isn't getting the game time he needs to develop.

While for United losing a player on a free, especially a young talented one doesn't look good.

The club does have a one year option on the deal. I would imagine he will be loaned out next year then his situation will be assessed. After a year on loan does he look ready to challenge in the first team or not.

5.) 10 Mar 2020 08:57:11
think your right shappy, that seems like the best option for everyone.




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06 Aug 2020 09:17:33
Slightly confused over angel gomes. He’s left and signed for Lille then been loaned straight to boavista.

I thought he left as we couldn’t guarantee him game time at the club. But he’s happy to sign elsewhere and be loaned out? Strange one.

Obviously not as straight forward as I believed.


1.) 06 Aug 2020 10:26:12
I think he left as no one at the club could give him a real development plan that ended up with him being in the first team.

At United he was told "work hard in training and your chances will come".

At Lille, he was told that they have a plan to develop aspects of his game during a year on loan in Portugal, probably dealing with the physical step up in senior football. While the regular game time at a higher standard will raise his game to the next level. Then back to France for another step up in quality and further development.

Fact is Gomes should have been on loan the moment he turned 18, he has been too good for the U23's for a solid two years. If you are being challenged then you are stagnating.

A loan when he turned 18 might have meant he was ready to contribute this season and he might have played more games and we would have seen less of Lingard and Pereira.

But he wasn't ready because the club didn't have a development plan to get him ready.

2.) 06 Aug 2020 10:48:29
He maybe wasn’t ready because he wasn’t doing enough in training? You can map out futures etc but hard work is rewarded as well. Without being on the training pitch none of us really know why he didn’t play. Also, this is the second contract extension that was on the table. He signed his first one after months of speculation. He was 17/ 18 at that time too.

3.) 06 Aug 2020 11:17:02
Gomes was expected to break into the first team a bit like greenwood etc . It never worked out for the lad, happens move on.

4.) 06 Aug 2020 11:47:38
Club mismanagement.

Best of luck to him.

5.) 06 Aug 2020 12:43:32
Shappy with all due respect surely you have no idea what development plan Utd had for Gomes and to suggest otherwise is simply misleading. You talk as though you are an authority on the subject but you can't possibly know how the academy is managed or its development plan for individual players.

You seem to be regurgitating and putting your own interpretation on something you believed you've read but choose to ignore the facts.

Pereria, Henderson and Tuanzebe have all been out on loan as have countless other academy prospects.

The academy may very well be failing our young players but in the absence of a detailed explanation of why or a model of best practice being used at other Clubs producing superior results we can only rely on the facts which are both overwhelming and irrefutable.

I am sure there are many areas where the academy can undoubtedly improve but it's success in producing players that go on to represent the first team is both impressive, enduring and is in fact a core value that permeates the entire Club.

Trusting in youth and giving young players a chance are values synonymous with Manchester United and there can be no greater incentive than that of opportunity and a core belief in youth. Road maps and development plans are of course very important but count for nothing if the Club doesn't present players with the opportunity or has the patience to give its young players a chance.

I always like reading your posts but I'm not sure your taking a balanced view on this topic. Gomes is merely one player from an academy of hundreds and I think many people are scratching their heads and trying to interpret the situation.

Gomes was supposedly one of our most talented and brightest academy prospects. We were led to believe that he was being courted by the likes of Chelsea and Barcelona who were going to present him with a development plan or road map into their first team and Utd were somehow responsible for mismanaging a generational talent. In reality he has signed for Lille and now finds himself on loan at Boavista! You are suggesting Lille have a masterplan to turn him into another superstar but all I see is another young player out on loan trying to make his own way in a ruthless game. I wish him all the best and hope he can realise his true potential!

6.) 06 Aug 2020 12:49:53
He's not good enough to play for us at the minute, I hope the lad goes onto have a successful career but he expected too much too soon imo, he hardly pulled up trees in the game time he did get, I felt underwhelmed by him.

7.) 06 Aug 2020 12:56:09
Gomes could have stayed and got five minutes at the end of last nights game.

8.) 06 Aug 2020 13:39:02
Red Man - Last summer the manager sold our most prolific striker and sent out our highest paid player on loan to Inter Milan.

He placed his trust in academy prospects Marcus Rashford and Mason Greenwood so if that isn't a pathway into the first team or giving opportunities to young players than I have no idea what it looks like! If we sign Sancho this summer then we have an English front three with the potential and talent to represent the Club for the next decade whilst hopefully all developing together to help us challenge for the major trophies. If this trident does indeed go on to propel the Club to future glory it was born from a manager with the vision and courage to make bold decisions and ultimately place his faith in the academy.

I agree Mengi could possibly have been afforded more minutes and I'd also like to have seen Ethan Laid given a chance at full back but the manager assess the players every day in training and if he believes a more gentle introduction to first team football is advantageous then I trust his judgment.

9.) 06 Aug 2020 14:26:47

My comment on Gomes was a little tongue in cheek. However, I don’t think Gomes got the chances he should have had. We will see if it comes back to bite us. Dalot seems to be on his way out as well. Laird would have been interesting

I am not saying fill the team with kids, but if I am one of our youth sat on the bench last night I would have been straining to get on, if given 5 mins I would have been annoyed and frustrated

Not sure you can have a more gentle intro than last night, with little pressure.

10.) 06 Aug 2020 14:26:49
Hear hear DLIB.

11.) 06 Aug 2020 14:42:43
Red Man - I assumed it was a little tongue in cheek. Along with Shappy and many others I really respect and enjoy reading your posts. Sometimes I think we can all be guilty of failing to see the other side of the argument but this site wouldn't be as entertaining if we all thought the same way and we all ultimately want the same thing we just have different ideas on how to get there.

12.) 06 Aug 2020 14:45:24
A very good post I totally agree .
Its good for young players to be around the squad, it can be a case of one step at a time .
I can remember brazil taking a young ronsldo to a world Cup and he didn't play a minute .
Samd people looking for something to bash the msnager about.

13.) 06 Aug 2020 16:17:46

Brazil taking a young Ronaldo to the biggest tournament in the world is a bit different to giving a couple of youngsters half a game rather than 5 minutes in an already decided tie.

14.) 06 Aug 2020 16:29:24
Gomes has definitely divided opinion. Never quite saw where he was going to fit into the system OGS plays? Was a 10, left forward, midfielder?

15.) 06 Aug 2020 20:09:15
Its done for similar reasons.

16.) 06 Aug 2020 20:23:05

Interesting debate, we should have developed the talent, seen where it got to, worried about the system later. Systems come and go, talent if there, will push through if given the chance. Gomes was massively highly thought of from very young. Often they don’t develop, it can happen but I wanted to see a bit more of him and not sure he got the crack of the whip.

17.) 06 Aug 2020 20:37:31
Maybe the club saw enough of him.

18.) 06 Aug 2020 21:16:33

Then why did they try to keep him?

19.) 06 Aug 2020 21:50:33
They'd have maybe tried harder if they thought he was good enough. I'm disappointed he left. Watched him from no age and thought he'd make it. But I don't see him everyday, so not up to me to ruminate over whether or not he got a fair go.

20.) 06 Aug 2020 22:08:09
Maybe he’ll be the one that got away. I’m personally sorry he left the club - equally, he didn’t look all that when he played at senior level. Tough gig this football management.



15 Jul 2020 08:24:27
Rashford to receive an honorary doctorate. Fully deserved, a very inspirational young man and one I hope kids will see as a role model even if they don’t follow football.

Well done Marcus.


1.) 15 Jul 2020 09:21:14
Deserving of MBE/ OBE/ Knighthood and the rest.

2.) 15 Jul 2020 09:50:43
An example for many professional footballers and kids to look upto.

3.) 15 Jul 2020 10:46:31
The boy done good.



02 Jul 2020 18:58:55
Seen a piece on bailey, with the prices quoted he’s got to be an alternative to sancho? Been mentioned he plays primarily on the left but I always assume with him being left footed he’d be a good option on the right. I know havertz perhaps has played that role this season but the season before I saw him plenty on the right.


1.) 02 Jul 2020 20:20:13
Leon Bailey seems a good young player from what I've seen. He has mainly played on the left this season, but made his breakthrough on the right so can play there.

2.) 02 Jul 2020 22:14:56
He’s at the age where although he’d warrant playing time I still see greenwood getting game time on the right, as well as the fact well most likely see greenwood cover CF too.

3.) 02 Jul 2020 22:48:10
RedWhiskey, I think if we miss out on Sancho we need to be clever about who we look to bring in. I genuinely feel Greenwood might make a big step towards locking down the RW position next season. If we go for a "big name" signing and they don't hit the ground running then we could end up with an expensive signing struggle to get game time.

I like Chiesa, he looks a great player, but I do worry about Italians moving outside of Serie A. While Ferran Torres also looks a great young player, but has his eyes firmly fixed on the big two in Spain. So how long would he stay for if he signed. Both are great Sancho alternatives but would still cost a huge amount.

Someone I'd seriously consider is Emi Buendía, he's had a great season at Norwich, who will be relegated so he shouldn't cost a bomb. He is EPL proven, young enough to continue to improve, and if he signed and Greenwood kept him out of the team I don't think he would kick off or be an expensive flop.

4.) 03 Jul 2020 00:24:24
Shappy I get your point about Emi Beundia, and I agree he’s a good footballer, but he’s nothing special and he’s not good enough for United. Granted he has created a lot of chances, but he’s scored fewer goals this season than Lingard. If we had to take a punt on a player like Beundia I’d rather we signed Cantwell or Brooks. Certainly Cantwell was by far better than Beundia the other night in the FA Cup, and he has been most games I’ve watched Norwich this season, though I’ve not done so particularly often.

5.) 03 Jul 2020 03:09:02
Willian on a free is a no brainer i would take him for the right all day long and then buy koulbaly and a decent left back and were sorted.

6.) 03 Jul 2020 07:13:15
Buendia has the assists but rarely ever looks like scoring.

7.) 03 Jul 2020 16:52:13
Buendía is still underrated by many. I think he is one of those players who will move to a better side and light it up and suddenly everyone will be saying what a signing he was and how others missed out on him.

Only one player in Europe's top five leagues has played more successful through balls than Buendía (10), and that is Messi with 11.

He has created the most goal scoring chances of any player under 23 in the league. While only KdB and Mahrez have created more out of everyone in the league.

He is also in the top five for tackles, pressures in the final third, passes in the opposition penalty box and expected assists.

All this while playing for officially the worst team in the league.

He works hard, he presses, he wins the ball and once he does he creates bucket loads of chances for his team mates. In a better team he would likely be the top assist provider in the league. Yes he doesn't score many (or any so far) .

Yet we have Rashford, Martial and Greenwood who have as many EPL goals between them as Mane, Salah and Firmino (51). While Pogba and Bruno chip in with a fair few goals across the season as well. What we really need is a top level creator, someone who'll provide the ammunition for our players, and EMI Buendía has proven himself to be one of the best in the league.



02 Jul 2020 14:16:55
With sane going for around 55mill I doubt we will see sancho signing this summer.


{Ed002's Note - They are unrelated.}

1.) 02 Jul 2020 15:03:29
In my opinion Dortmund will not drop their asking price. Firstly, having Sancho next season will make a big difference to Dortmunds ability to challenge for the title. Secondly, Dortmund will receive at least as much as we are prepared to pay this summer next summer, if not more with several sides more likely to in a position to move for Sancho next summer, creating a bidding war.

Our options are pay up or move on to a different target. Which is what Chelsea have done.

If we aren't prepared or able to meet the asking price we need to move on quickly to alternative targets. Dortmund won't be bullied, they got 140m out of Barcelona for Ousemane Dembele. They will stand firm. The biggest mistake we could make this summer is having the same approach with Dortmund as we did last summer with Sporting. Thinking we can bully or cajole Dortmund down to what we want to pay. We'll end up in the same situation come deadline day as we were with Bruno, nowhere near signing him and having not signed an alternative.

2.) 02 Jul 2020 15:47:00
Ed, I seem to recall you mentioning that there may be changes to agents fees that could effect how much his agent is asking for. Any update on this?

Apologies if iv misread the situation.

{Ed002's Note - In the future there will be a cap introduced, not this summer. It has also yet to be endorsed by FIFA as they fear a legal challenge. So it won't happen until 21/22 at the earliest.}

3.) 02 Jul 2020 15:57:18
What's your view on astronomical agents fees? Part of modern day football or a blight on the game?

{Ed002's Note - The system needs revision but it can only sensibly be done with the help of the agents and "representatives". Simply imposing random limits won't work. The FA have not helped the situation by suggesting their own changes as well. The fee being sought for Sancho is outrageous although a lower fee has been mentioned to two other sides in order to get things moving.}

4.) 02 Jul 2020 16:13:17
I didn’t believe they were Ed more a point on the pricing. Similar calibre of player so I doubt we would look to spend much more on Sancho given the current climate. Granted sancho has years on sane but I think outside of C.V. climate Sane would have gone for more.

{Ed002's Note - Yes, he would have gone for perhaps €20M more - which was the original Bayern Munich budget for him.}

5.) 02 Jul 2020 17:01:26
Think sane had only a year left on his deal where as sancho has two.

{Ed002's Note - You need to forget the comparisons.}

6.) 02 Jul 2020 17:33:04
If Sancho is Joinging Bayern. Do anyone think Coman might be available for transfer?

{Ed002's Note - Sancho is not joining Bayern Munich but Coman is a player who might well be moving.}

7.) 02 Jul 2020 18:09:10
Ed do you mind sharing who the 2 sides are that you have said a lower fee was mentioned to get things moving.

{Ed002's Note - Chelsea and Real Madrid.}

8.) 02 Jul 2020 18:22:07
I can't understand the £100 million plus for Sancho, I hear he's doing well in Germany and don't watch their games so don't know myself. I read here he's the real deal and is worth the money Dortmund want. Can anyone tell me if he is worth the hype?

9.) 02 Jul 2020 22:51:46
He might be worth the 100m fee, but he isn't worth the 200m plus total package cost that he would come at.

Only Messi and Lewandowski have scored/ assisted more goals this season than Sancho. For a 20 year old that phenomenal. Being English will also bump up the price.

Is he worth it? Only time will tell. There is a huge difference from smashing it at Dortmund and doing it in the EPL, just ask Kagawa and Mkhitaryan.

10.) 03 Jul 2020 08:20:38
thanks ed.

maybe word of this lower fee will reach united and they can test the waters.

if Chelsea were to get sancho and improve what i think is a dodgy defense they could be the outsiders for a title challenge, may be worth a punt after the window closes.

{Ed002's Note - This is the agent's fee - not the player. And it is unrelated to Manchester United.}



23 Jun 2020 18:48:36
By all the noises it looks like Henderson will have another season at sheff United. Which I think is the best option. de gea has had his slips but he deserves our backing with how many points he’s saved us in previous seasons. Perhaps a 6 month loan and blood Henderson in in the final period of the season?


1.) 23 Jun 2020 19:38:33
Dithering again. Not recognising when someone has passed their peak and another is ready.

2.) 23 Jun 2020 21:24:28
Definitely an interesting debate rather than cut and dried as you seem to be suggesting Red Man. And if the OP is correct there isn’t any dithering, a decision has been made, just not one you agree with.

De Gea has conceded 2 in his last 7 games, it was his first game back after 3 months out and he let one in that he probably should have saved at his level but it was difficult. He made a good save shortly after. Henderson has also made a couple of errors this season and it might be harder for him at a bigger club, who knows? There is an argument for both but an extra year on load wouldn’t be the end of the world really, De Gea is still a top keeper despite a few errors.

3.) 23 Jun 2020 22:11:10
He is gds2 but he is now playing for his united career. He needs to regain his top form and cut down on the errors. His high standards have slipped somewhat there is no doubting that. But i think he had credit in the bank so to speak and he is in danger of dipping into the overdraft facility.

4.) 23 Jun 2020 22:29:23

Having seen the greatest, Schmeichel, who had it all, I would analyse that DDG has outstanding areas and poor areas. What is worrying is that the area of his strength is letting him down at the moment. DDG was, can be a brilliant, absolutely brilliant shot stopper, as an example, you flagged the second save at Spurs. The fact his shot stopping has suffered says to me he isn’t as focused as he was or should be and we don’t know why. Has he got other issues in his life? Yes it was the first game but the errors carried on from previous after three months off. Could his focus have wavered or not strengthened in the break?

To analyse DDG, his weakness is his command of his 6 yard box, he doesn’t dominate and that can lead to indecision amongst defenders and I think we saw that previously prior to the break with goals from crosses.

It is a big decision but decisions have to be made. What if Henderson doesn’t want to be loaned out again? This is a decision, a big decision but they are paid to get it right. I just think it’s time to decide whether the overall affect of a keeper is worth more than a great shot stopper even if he has been off his game.

5.) 24 Jun 2020 01:16:14
Yes I agree with your assessment. Schmeichel also had bad moments in his career though, even at United where he had bad spells and made a number of mistakes but he wasn’t suddenly a bad keeper.

If Henderson isn’t happy being loaned then he stays and fights for his place and if De Gea continues to make mistakes he will come in and take the spot, but I think that might be the season after next and he will happily go on loan again next season.

6.) 24 Jun 2020 07:58:30
I think standing back from it all, it looks like a sensible position. Give Henderson another season at Sheff Utd with the possibility of European football which would be great for him and give De Gea another year. Looking at his achievements, he has probably earned it. All relative should he be able to cut out the mistakes from here on in.

But if he continues to make mistakes between now and the end of the season well then I hope United are comfortable enough to bring Romero in and take that chance.

7.) 24 Jun 2020 12:34:29
My personal preference is to have Henderson as No.1 next season and move DDG on before he declines to a point where no one will take him.

However, give the current situation I doubt we will see anyone spend big on him. Keeping DDG as No.1 next season and loaning out Henderson to Sheffield United wouldn't be an bad move given the situation.




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16 Jul 2020 10:41:22
I would be surprised if we went for him. He is getting on a little and hasn’t got the best injury record. Quality at what he does though as rj mentions.




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14 Jul 2020 11:31:36
Willian is going to command a huge wage and I fear it will likely end in tears as it did with Sanchez. He’s likely to lose his pace.




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13 Jul 2020 08:40:56
I too am a little confused, not by the rumours of selling but as to why people on here see the need for a new left back. Shaw and Williams are well equipped to push each other. And shaw has been playing terrific lately.




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12 Jul 2020 13:49:20
Halesini you should note what ed002 said yesterday. It may very well happen with Chiesa if we can convince him to move to dreary Manchester.




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05 Jul 2020 22:25:44
I wouldn’t be against it, seems a professional and someone who having criticised ole has since given his fair due. Long as he realises he slowly be playing less and less. Fred and mctominay are neither that holding mid, perhaps they think he could mould one of them?





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30 Jul 2020 06:28:02
Torres is young and quite raw, sancho is leaps ahead at the moment.




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23 Jul 2020 10:24:33
Why in do people keep prioritising left back?




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21 Jul 2020 19:41:58
Decent football people around him? Phelan?




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20 Jul 2020 19:52:17
047 curious, would you take Ramsay back?


{Ed047's Note - good question Red and it’s a no from me, would you have him?



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20 Jul 2020 09:31:46
I don’t think any of us seriously think we’re back but more nice to see some proper footy played. We’ve had a good record against the top 6 this season and struggled to bear some lower teams. Of which we have beaten recently. It’s not leaps and bounds but clear to see improvement.

I like Arteta and think he could do very well but I do question arsenals recruitment as of late. A few shrewd signings could see you climb the table like we have seen ourselves do this season.

Good luck in the final, would rather see arsenal win it than Chelsea regardless of the loss last night.


{Ed047's Note - thanks Red, be nice to win it again but won’t be easy.

The last 2 results have been nice but only from the point of view that the team seem to be together which I’ve not seen for ages but beating City and Liverpool doesn’t count for much else right now.

Definitely need some shrewd signings but who, I’ve no idea mate.