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29 Oct 2024 15:44:12
Guess its confirmed now with 10m being paid off. Great if that's true.
1.) 29 Oct 2024 16:10:19
All he needs to find now, is some centrebacks with a bit of pace because ours are all so slow, like cart horses but hopefully Lenny is quick and adjust to epl, he needs to find a striker or two, because we got zero in that department needs a LWB who can play a dozen games on the trot….
Sell off half a billion pounds worth of crap that ETH bought in
Then just maybe we can build something positive…. Fingers crossed.
2.) 29 Oct 2024 17:25:41
Or maybe he believes there are players in those individuals and he can coach them into a team.
Remember he won't be able to add much in January, so he will have to work with this squad for the rest of the year.
3.) 29 Oct 2024 18:44:55
I am convinced there is better there or at least hoping, then they been showing, surely there must be, the law of averages must say out of all the players Eric added surely some of them must be OK although I have to be honest I not seen much that fills me with confidence, not as if they did not know Eric most of them he coached before, but hardly shows he been coaching Antony for 4 years! And I would virtually say every player digressed under ETH it’s hard to think of a player that’s gone in right direction, possibly Onana looked better this season, but the rest. well.
4.) 29 Oct 2024 22:23:50
There is definitely great potential in our squad not enough to challenge for the title but enough for a really good manager who I stills discipline and tactical structure.
5.) 30 Oct 2024 00:02:57
Maze,
Let’s see how things go, why be negative before he’s even started?
6.) 30 Oct 2024 03:24:25
There are some very good players in this squad who simply need a system that works and coaching to improve.
The right coach will improve this side immensely.
If it is Amorim and he okayed his preferred formation, Dalot and Mazraoui would make excellent wingbacks.
A back three of de Ligt, a ball player like Yoro and Martinez to step into midfield looks strong.
Two midfielders of Mainoo, Cas (who I think would work well in this formation) and Ugarte feels strong, and any of the front three would fit this.
No doubt we need a decent lwb, and another midfielder.
I’m getting hopeful - it’s the hope that kills you.
7.) 30 Oct 2024 06:44:32
Hoping we buy Alphonso Davies. I think shaw is a really good player when fit but unfortunately he seems to be struggling with injuries and its not going to get easier given his age. He would be a great back up option for martinez as a back 3 or left wingback considering you need rotation and he can't play 50 games a season.
Or maybe Amas and also the kid at benfica who we have a buy back clause are the long term solutions as wingbacks. We still will need a left footed player who can play as a cb as a back up for martinez. Shaw ticks the box and did very well playing there when martinez was injured.
8.) 30 Oct 2024 08:48:44
Ahmad H,
I think Davies will end up at RM. He would be a brilliant free transfer.
9.) 30 Oct 2024 19:57:15
Have to agree, better coaching will improve us, but interested to know who the VERY good players in this squad are?
10.) 31 Oct 2024 01:26:51
De Ligt, Martinez, Yoro, Ugarte, Mainoo, Garnacho, Bruno, Hojlund, all have shown they can be very good, you could even include Rashford who can be very very good but also very very bad. Time will tell if Amorim can get these players playing at their best but if he does then we will be fine.
11.) 31 Oct 2024 15:17:30
Hope your right, but imo
Deligt. far too slow for epl
Martinez …very rash and gone backwards since injury
Yoro…who knows he not played a epl game yet, so how on earth do you know?
Mainoo…player in there for sure but stagnated under ETH
Garnacho…. player in there but very wasteful
Bruno…yes 100% if he not switched to every position going…and not captain!
Hojlund…not for me, nowhere near good enough to lead the line
Rashford…Yes when he wants and clearly did not want under ETH.
12.) 02 Nov 2024 09:51:52
Mainoo stagnated under EtH ???
Surely you're trolling?
He didn't start playing for us until January, how on earth are you saying a 19 year old with less than half a season of senior football under his belt has "stagnated"?
As for the rest, MdL has looked good, he's not the fastest, but he's not slow. His pace is around average for a CB. I was one of the more skeptical fans when he signed, but so far I haven't seen anything that justified my skepticism.
Martinez hasn't gone backwards, he just hasn't got up to full speed after having a bad injury, then having a set back during recovery, then picking up a new injury shortly after coming back from the original injury.
Yoro is a highly rated player, he looked good during pre-season. Granted that was only pre-season. He was also excellent in Ligue 1 last season.
Garnacho has great potential and is currently our most consistent goal contributor this season with 5 goals and 4 assists. Yes he can be wasteful, pretty much all 19 year old forwards are. They are still learning.
Bruno and Rashford it's just not up for debate, over the past 5 years they have not only been our most consistent attacking players. But their numbers put them amongst the top ten players in the league over that time.
I'm not sure what you expect from Højlund. He's had one season where we were injury riddled and awful, hardly creating any chances. He was in and out of the team due to his own injuries and was trying to settle in a new country and league. Despite that his chances conversation rate was 56%. For context elite strikers such as Kane typically have a chance conversation rate of around 25% (Kane's last season was 26%) . The reason he didn't score more goals was that he was averaging 1.1 shots per game, Kane on the other hand was averaging 4.6 shots per game last season.
It's unlikely that he'd be able to, but if he maintained that conversation rate and was being provided with 4+ chances a game then he'd be scoring twice as many goals as Kane. If his conversation rate dropped by HALF and he was being provided with 4 chances a game then he'd be matching Kane's scoring levels.
Yet you don't think there's a player there. Sure he's 21 years old and his form will dip and peak over the next few seasons. But if we can start regularly creating 3-4 good chances a game for him then we potentially have one of the best young forwards in Europe in our squad.
09 Jun 2023 20:06:26
American Friday will close in another few hours and with that the supposed "qatari deadline". I think its safe to say that Jim "Rat" Glazer has successfully seduced the other Glazers and will end up screwing Manchester United.
1.) 10 Jun 2023 01:55:38
Chin up mate. 2 of the top 3 teams in the world for sale at the same time “unprecedented “ overpriced both of us so not lot of takers.
2.) 10 Jun 2023 05:35:31
Reports said that the self imposed deadline was removed and the deal will stay on the table.
The truth is this process has gone on far too long and needs to be concluded for the sake of the club.
Unfortunately when have the Glazers ever done anything for the sake of the club. That is why any deal needs to see the back of them immediately or in the extreme short term.
3.) 10 Jun 2023 09:42:11
Would be a good deal if Ratcliffe can get it over the line, fingers crossed. Mainly just to see the meltdown from people who have absolutely no idea.
4.) 10 Jun 2023 15:25:46
Hey look whos back. GtS weren't you the one who got banned??. Meltdown was it? Create your own page if you have an allergy reading what other posters feel like writing and obviously you are a know it all.
5.) 10 Jun 2023 15:59:48
GtS
What makes you think the Rats deal is a good one? What makes you think continued Glazer involvement is good?
Do you care about the future of the club?
6.) 13 Jun 2023 06:12:25
Redman
What makes you think the future of the club is in better hands if sheikh Jasem takes over compared to SJR. Plenty of clubs with foreign owners in the PL who have made a mess of things.
The future of the club will depend on who is the most capable in terms of putting a plan together and a structure to support it imo.
If you go by the PSG example, They have spend money like drunk sailors and won nothing but the French league and internally the club is a mess so that's the other side of the coin.
When the sale goes through the glazers will have very little say going forward and a minority investor.
30 Aug 2022 20:31:42
Hey Ed002, if you are around- With Dubravka almost confirmed, do you think this is our business done or are we still looking to get more players in in the remaining 2 days? I won't ask you for details of who or where or how much, a simple yes or no would suffice. Thanks for all the updates.
{Ed002's Note - I have answered this.}
30 May 2022 15:28:32
Hi Ed002, have Man Utd made any contact for Neves? I remember you said that we would be interested but with all the news about DeJong etc, Neves has gone missing. Any update? Thanks!
{Ed002's Note - Ruben Neves (DM/CM) Wolves would look to get as close to €50M as they can should circumstances dictate Neves is sold, and they may be more accepting of that now. Mr Mourinho is a huge fan and has tried to take him to three different clubs in the past - and he would, I am sure be interested in taking him to Roma but their focus right now is elsewhere. He has always been seen as an option to replace Matic at Manchester United, but they have other priorities to deal with first and preferred options - although Wolves might see an offer. His agent has been actively offering him around and has spoken with Juventus who are looking to offload players but none that I would expect Wolves to be interested in. The Spurs coach would like him as an upgrade to Sissoko (who has now left) and Ndombele but it is likely both would need to leave as they have added another addition in midfield as well - if Winks were sold an offer is possible.. Chelsea have a preference for another player. Arsenal have been very interested but could be out of the picture if they do not achieve Champions League football. The player wants to move to Barcelona, but it would need players in exchange or them to remove wages from the accounts - but they should not be ruled out - and I expect they may push.}
1.) 30 May 2022 15:45:20
Thank you Ed002. Appreciate the detailed information.
2.) 30 May 2022 18:39:34
Ed, would De Jong to United enable Barcelona to move for Neves?
{Ed002's Note - Sure but they are completely unrelated.}
3.) 31 May 2022 14:22:27
Seems like De Jong is determined to stay in Catalonia.
4.) 02 Jun 2022 09:54:02
I would take neves over de jong and saves us from going after a player who does not want to move. I also think neves is proven pl player and not sure how de jong will handle the pace of the pl and physicality. Might turn out to be another tulip.
08 Nov 2021 07:29:25
Hearing reports of a player revolt against Ole now. Paper talk or reality? Anyone from Manchester, what's the word on the streets?
1.) 08 Nov 2021 08:14:08
See my post on banter.
2.) 08 Nov 2021 09:32:50
Lots ofcontrasting media chatter about whether United will sack Ole or give him more time, but the balance is now tipping towards the former.
My take is that United know he needs to go, but have no replacement lined up yet, so they need to keep their cards close to their chest.
As soon as they get something sorted out, he will go: has to, given poor coaching, favouritism, senior players unhappy etc.
Rogers the favourite: undoubtedly a good coach, but question marks hang over him.
I’d bring in Laurent Blanc on a temporary basis and either keep him on if he does a good job, or give him another job in United when Pochettino or Ten Haag are viable.
3.) 09 Nov 2021 12:43:37
More worrying. Rumours Woodward is to be offered a consultancy role. In what. abysmal recruitment?
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08 Dec 2024 06:48:22
An unpopular opinion here but i really am starting to think that Lisandro Martinez has lost his mojo ever since he has returned from injury. No crunching tackles flying in, no domination nothing. He isn't the same butcher that we signed rather looks like a shadow. Most of the times, he is standing on the ball without doing anything, 10-15
seconds at a time without even moving unnecessarily slowing the game down. Wont be surprised if he is gone in the summer.
1.) 08 Dec 2024 06:57:43
I've also seen the change UA. He was awful yesterday, although he wasn't alone.
2.) 08 Dec 2024 07:09:22
Just listened to Amorim presser. He has asked them not to lose the ball and maybe why the back 3 look like they are crawling around with the ball at their feet. I wish zirksee and the rest of front line players took some clues and stopped being so poor in ball retention.
I was on live chat and mentioned it a few times where is our midfield. They just don't seem to be available for a pass between the lines and its generally long diagonals to the wings from the cb and even they receive the pass they dink it straight back to the CB's.
3.) 08 Dec 2024 09:59:12
His lack of pace is definitely going to be a problem in a back three system, its why Shaw will start over him if he ever can stay fit and then we will look to sign a left centre back in summer (probably inacio given the connection with amorim) .
Luckily for us he could play in the centre of a back three instead of de ligt or he is definitely sellable unlike most of the squad and would have a long list of clubs wanting to sign him.
4.) 08 Dec 2024 10:22:44
He hasn't been the same ever since Salah sat him on his arse in the 7-0 ;)
5.) 08 Dec 2024 10:23:58
I've said previously that Martinez has yet to find the same form from his first season consistently since his return.
He has been good in spells, but the consistency in his performances hasn't yet returned, and we have to be open to the possibility that it might not return at all.
To me it looks like he doesn't quite fully trust his body yet. Like he's not sure whether he can go fully in to a tackle like he did before as he's concerned about getting injured again. That has lead to moments of hesitation which means the opportunity to make the tackle has gone by the time he decides to try and make it.
On the ball he has been excellent, it's his off the ball defending that has lacked something. That can partially be put down to playing a new system and finding his feet in that system. In this regard he is a the only defender who has made a couple of mistakes as they acclimatise to the new set up.
Yet with Martinez it isn't just the occasional positional lapse, or miscommunication. It's his aura, the way he goes into challenges. He doesn't quite look the same player as he was before. With time that can come back. He will learn to trust his body again. The more tackles he goes into and comes out uninjured the more he will trust his body again.
We just have to be patient with him. He has also proven to be one of the few in the squad who we owe a little patience to.
6.) 08 Dec 2024 10:27:46
Think he has been poor since he spent a month celebrating the WC win.
7.) 08 Dec 2024 11:05:03
Ahmad
That's one of the main reasons we looked so bereft of potency under ten Hag - effort off the ball.
Even Mainoo shied away a few times from showing for the ball yesterday - just what is that all about?
I get we're a team in transition - still, but there's nothing to excuse any of these players from putting in the effort that even a beer-belly on legs like me would show.
I do believe that much of the problem with our midfield is just the lack of support from elsewhere.
Neither of Garnacho and Rashford have ever been any good at mixing it in midfield, Fernandes simply does not have the positional discipline yet, Mount hasn't had enough time yet to flourish in a system that works best for him, Amad is too lightweight, Dalot lacks the IQ, De Ligt and Martinez are too sluggish.
Amorim's system cannot function properly until the midfield is supported.
I firmly believe that if we are to ever see his system work properly at United, it will come from a team that includes none of Rashford, Garnacho, Fernandes, Dalot, De Ligt and Martinez.
The Forest game was one where we looked like strangers - the new system will invite that gremlin occasionally for a while, but we are beginning to see plenty of evidence regarding which players will continue to let us down.
8.) 08 Dec 2024 11:06:55
I’d think Branthwaite would be the ideal player we are looking at for LCB but he won’t come cheap, he’s the best option out there imo though as Ed25 will testify.
9.) 08 Dec 2024 13:29:08
Hopefully that ship has sailed with Mr Ashworth.
10.) 08 Dec 2024 17:38:19
Martinez was poor on the ball yesterday, along with bruno, dalot and mcguire. Mainoo was available a lot for the ball for the first half - but seemed to drift completely out if the game (which happens a lot with him) . Out back 3 looked happier to pass safe and sideways rather than trust the midfielders and pass forwards.
Lots to work on for amorim. Bruno's licks and long diagonals, McGuire's favourite long diagonal and dalot's ridiculous shooting from 25 yards are all areas I would like to see the back of. Bruno was struggling to make a basic 5 yard pass and he was not the only one.
11.) 08 Dec 2024 23:42:02
For me it’s very simple. Varane made him look much better.
I can’t recall many standout performances from Martinez when he’s not been next to Varane.
24 Oct 2024 21:57:10
We have played enough games this season to make a fair argument on how poor we truly are. No matter what anyone wants to say the factors are, its really not happening. We are just turning up without any real plan. The sooner the management decides to end this, the better for Manchester United.
1.) 25 Oct 2024 05:28:22
Honestly wouldn't blame Amad if he decided to leave. Imagine having to sit on the bench while a right back plays in a position that he is entirely capable of playing. Especially considering he was player of the month barely one month ago. Baffling. Ten Hag really doesn't have it together I'm afraid.
2.) 25 Oct 2024 06:30:18
I bought a turntable a few years ago so I could enjoy vinyl, and I can tell you this, broken records are a real pain.
3.) 25 Oct 2024 06:36:37
Bored stupid, said it at the end of the game on live chat. This is Sexton mark 2 and we are trying not to lose, not trying to win. Looked to me like the manager was afraid to lose to Mourinho.
Manchester United, Attack Attack Attack, no more. We are being taught to be afraid to attack. It just is not good enough.
4.) 25 Oct 2024 06:42:38
AJH, i hope you are referring to the game Eth is trying to play.
1 win in 11 european games. Worst start in 41 years. Something is definitely broken and it can't be the structure.
5.) 25 Oct 2024 07:40:02
I say extend his contract. I can see the light at the end of the tunnel.
6.) 25 Oct 2024 08:52:20
Yes BRD! But how long is the tunnel?
7.) 25 Oct 2024 09:28:05
We going need to need a generator to produce electric.
8.) 25 Oct 2024 10:21:24
Under Sexton the local paper headline was Cold Trafford based on what we were seeing and hearing from the manager. I have to say it’s feeling the same now. Dreary unadventurous football with players who don’t attack to score, just try not to lose. We have players who can attack yet in summer we didn’t buy a goal scorer. It’s awful to watch us, it is destroying our heritage, what we sing about, the football taught by Matt Busby. Someone in the new board needs to get hold of ETH and tell him to play the Manchester United way or sack him.
15 Oct 2024 19:30:15
Thats Tuchel off the list then.
1.) 16 Oct 2024 06:38:56
If Tuchel was the one the United board really wanted, then their dithering in the summer cost them.
2.) 16 Oct 2024 08:41:50
Good.
3.) 16 Oct 2024 09:17:29
Red Man, Ed02 has suggested that Tuchel wasn't interested or had rejected the advances over the summer. Now there could be a lot of reasons for this and I am sure many of us read speculation over the summer.
I guess all parties need to be happy with their role in the plan and if it doesn't fit for whatever reason should stay away.
I would not have been disappointed had he become the new United manager but then again I am not upset at all hebis the new England manager, better than all the other names mentioned bar one.
4.) 16 Oct 2024 10:17:47
Red Man, dithering? Mayhap he turned us down?
5.) 16 Oct 2024 10:40:46
I said IF Tuchel was the one they wanted. They should have made sure they got him in summer. If I remember rightly it was about input to transfers. IF he was their first choice then didn’t resolve it they should have moved heaven and earth but dithered on finalising it.
Personally he wasn’t first choice for me .
I am interested in Nagelsmann or perhaps a pure coach like the ex Dortmund coach because that fits the model better than Tuchel if honest.
6.) 16 Oct 2024 17:32:04
Well he started his first press conference with we need some luck and also luck with no injuries. Imagine if he had said that at United, some would have said he is already making excuses even though he gets to pick from a pretty darn good big pool of players.
10 Oct 2024 10:44:42
If INEOS don't sack him now and when things go from bad to worse 2 months later how stupid will they look. They got 2 chances to get the job done but in trying to be brave, they mess up.
1.) 10 Oct 2024 12:25:24
That’s what I find funny, according to the media INEOS don’t want to sack him 2 months after backing him because it makes them look stupid…. how much worse will they look if they don’t now but have to in another month or so. I don’t understand the logic.
2.) 10 Oct 2024 13:28:44
My speculative opinion is that their preference is to keep ETH here until the summer. That’s the best time to bring in a new manager because it gives the club time to identify the right person, and allows the incoming manager to come into a fresh season.
The alternatives are:
1. They are rushed into deciding on a new manager. Preferred candidates might not be available, or willing to come in part of the way through the season. If they do bring in a new manager, they will be under immense pressure to fix ETH’s mistakes and produce results, and this could undermine their ability to effectively implement their preferred style of play, etc.
2. An interim manager is appointed, possibly RVN. If the interim does well, there will be pressure to make them permanent. Not only does this undermine Ineos’s recruitment process, we have seen from the Ole situation that interim success does not, necessarily, translate into the type longer term transformation the club needs. If the interim doesn’t do well, it could leave the club in a worse position, or, at best, exactly where they would have been with ETH. But with the added cost of sacking him.
The clamour to sack ETH now is short sighted. I would be shocked if the club weren’t already working on plans to replace him. However, I don’t think bringing in a new manager part of the way through a crappy start to the season is a recipe for success. If results don’t improve, Ineos’s hand may be forced. But I would be far happier to write off this season as a trade off for bringing in the right manager next summer.
3.) 10 Oct 2024 13:59:24
Spot on Danny.
4.) 10 Oct 2024 14:39:37
All those clamouring and baying for the managers' blood are going to feel a tad foolish should he turn into Fergie V2. Because even the great one had us playing some pretty rubbish football initially.
Not suggesting he will but, just saying.
5.) 10 Oct 2024 15:29:31
Ineos have been super tight lipped whilst going about their business. The media made an assumption EtH would be discussed at a pre booked MONTHLY board meeting. The media have been made to look stupid. Fans have been whipped up into a frenzy by the media, by keeping their council Ineos are just showing that the media have no inside track and it’s all click bait.
I believe Ineos gave a statement in the summer about walking into the right decision rather than running to the wrong one. Also we have a recent history of only binning managers when it’s mathematically not possible for them to hit milestones like top 4.
Everyone needs to chill out, if EtH doesn’t meet his KPIs he’ll go, if he hits them he’ll stay. We’ve literally only just go a senior footballing team. The board are obviously happy to give it time, us fans will just have to trust in the people brought in.
Having an opinion is all part of being a fan, it’s gotten very decisive recently and that’s not productive for anyone.
{Ed002's Note - What has it to do with Ineos? None of you seem to grasp the situation at the club.}
6.) 10 Oct 2024 15:59:04
How many times its nothing to do with ineos.
7.) 10 Oct 2024 16:04:00
Why would anyone feel foolish if he turns into fegie v2?
Will you feel foolish if he doesn't?
I don't think you should. (not for that reason anyway)
8.) 10 Oct 2024 16:33:15
If they fire him and the next manager fails they will look foolish. If they don't fire him and he isn't successful, they will also look foolish. If they do fire him now, they will look foolish for not having done so in the summer when the press and the haters told them they should. If they wait until Xmas and fire him they will look foolish because they didn't do it in the summer or now. Basically, anything short of instant success will leave them looking foolish, no matter any of the background circumstances, like financial considerations, availability of a willing suitable replacement etc.
PS. This about how we see Ineos and nothing to do with ETH.
9.) 10 Oct 2024 17:29:27
Don't mention INEOS Shaw ?.
10.) 10 Oct 2024 17:58:00
Ken I knew you would respond. So effin predictable. Rent free ?.
11.) 10 Oct 2024 23:51:04
Angelred: I'm using Ineos as a collective term for the "powers that be" with regard to footballing matters, which I think is fair enough, since a) they are there because of Ratcliffe, and b) the meeting was at Ineos HQ. Of course decisions will be made by those appointed to make them and not Ineos.
12.) 11 Oct 2024 05:15:52
Not surprised to be honest that nothing has happened. I think you have to take the emotions out of it and look at things with a bit of objectivity. I know people will say look we are 14th but that's an emotional statement and not relevant.
There are no prizes up for offer in early October. What more relevant is how you play and perform in the money end of the season. If they were awarding trophies before Christmas the united teams of the past and current city team would have won very little.
Changing managers again after 7 games whilst some believe its a must is a bit premature. What's more concerning is the growing list of injuries and vagueness about when the players will be available.
I see England lost, that should give the hoard something to write about and maybe quiet down the noise around us. Obviously the new manager is useless and should be sacked asap :)
13.) 11 Oct 2024 09:01:21
Shaw I think most people do the exact same thing. But it seems to annoy people, for some strange reason.
14.) 13 Oct 2024 07:49:33
Ahmad
14th is not an emotional statement, it’s a fact. After 7 games we are already out of the title race, not that with ETH and last seasons mess, we were ever going to be in it. The club have spent £600 plus million, I did see a list at €700m euros, bringing in players, big investment this summer and still no sign of life.
Either ETH is very convincing with his process, the board are dithering, the one they want isn’t ready yet or it’s a financial decision not to send him packing.
What is vague is what this process is.
As to England he is an interim manager.
06 Oct 2024 20:11:15
7 games in and we haven't touched double digits in points. 5 scored 8 conceded and yet there are folks on here who have the audacity to defend this crap. The standards have literally gone down the flush. These folks are part of the problem that Manchester United is in. When the so called fans are happily accepting this then why on earth would anyone associated with the club do anything extra. They will just run the routines, take their wages and go home. So many legendary clubs have folded and if things continue like this, Manchester United will also go down the same path.
1.) 06 Oct 2024 20:36:03
Not sure anybody can defend ETH any longer.
We haven’t scored a league goal in the last 3 games, and haven’t looked like scoring either. The players purchased are bang average, recruitment is a joke, even under this new regime.
Zirkzee would be lucky to get 5 goals a season. Ugarte can’t even get on the pitch. Maz looks ok, but that’s about it. And de ligt has been torn apart more than once.
And this all on top of the previous 2 years of awful players purchased. Antony is awful, Martinez seems to be getting worse. Casemiro is gone. Mount was a waste of money. No left back for about a year. I’m. It even sure the keeper is really any better than De Gea. It’s been years of purchasing players and we are still starting Maguire and Evans at the back!
They can’t all be bad players, well not as bad as they look right now. Must be a coaching and confidence thing.
If ETH was in charge of Man City for a year I reckon he’d have them finishing mid table.
He has to go. I don’t care if they can’t get the new guy they want. The kit man could probably do a better job at this point.
2.) 06 Oct 2024 21:01:32
I think I would agree with the opinion that the signings are poor. Hopefully I will be proved wrong, but I don't think we have signed one outstanding player that can make a difference to the team since Eth took charge.
3.) 06 Oct 2024 21:06:48
No one’s defending what’s happening but choosing to back the manager over the players due to the same thing happening time and time again. Fergie choice, LVG who’s cv is better than 99% of premier league managers, Jose, arguably in the top 3 premier league managers of all time and a Club legend. We’ve seen it all before and that 5 mins of Rashford getting booked (wasn’t a yellow IMO anyway) his silly foul that could have been and then his demeanour when being substituted for me summed up everything that is wrong with him and others.
I can accept ETH is likely to move on as I’m sure other who are behind him but I don’t see a change until bigger things within the club change and the chosen INEOS lot need more than 3 months to do that. But the regular ETH out brigade will be copying and pasting the same posts with the next manager no doubt and claiming “they didn’t want him in the first place” and “wasn’t their first choice” about whoever comes in and doesn’t win the league next season.
4.) 06 Oct 2024 21:30:47
What makes you think any fans suggesting that more time is needed are happy with the current performances and results?
I expected more progress under EtH than we have seen to this point.
I accept that it doesn't happen over night and there have been a plethora of issues the manager has had to deal with.
That said I would hope that the players he has signed would be performing better than they currently are.
I think this squad is a long way away from being good enough to challenge for major honours, but I do think it has more quality than we are seeing right now.
For me the biggest issue is an inability to find a balanced midfield that doesn't have at least one obvious and glaring weakness.
Am I happy with the current performances? Absolutely not, but I'm also not convinced that sacking the manager now and replacing him with one of the options available (either permanent or temporary) will see a significant improvement beyond a month or so of new manager bounce. After which the same issues will restrict and hinder the next manager.
Do I think EtH is the answer? Not really, but I don't think sacking him is the answer either.
I'm not happy to watch these performances, but I try and make decisions with my head and not based on emotions.
5.) 06 Oct 2024 21:51:01
I don't think the players are as bad technically as being made out. I really do think they need better coaching and someone (not Bruno) to really lead the team on the pitch.
6.) 06 Oct 2024 22:09:53
Shappy,
When looking at the bench today, please let us have your thoughts why his purchases were not good enough to play? Is that progress?
7.) 06 Oct 2024 23:02:40
I don’t think anyone expected change ‘overnight’.
But we are now a chunk into his third season and we are playing probably the worst football I’ve seen here, period. And I include the Van Gaal era!
8.) 07 Oct 2024 05:30:29
And let’s not forget the fact that we are already 10points behind top place but only 5 above relegation. Will not need too much more of this dirge before we are well in the poop!
9.) 07 Oct 2024 06:12:51
Lack of goals comes from what the front 3 are doing atm. I personally think Garna and hoiland are miles a long way off being the finished article. Hoiland is 2/ 3 years away for me as being the finished article and takes far too many touches and lacks that Smootness of a finished article. Garna whilst he gets a 10 for effort and runs a lot is still very young and his decision making is a long way from being a top winger. Both hang on to the ball far too long.
AS fans we can have a bias and think they are better than they are at the moment and some blame it on the coaching. I have to disagree with that sentiment as both do so many things in key moments that snuffs out an attack starting with taking far too many touches and not looking for a pass. The pass is almost the last thing on Garna mind.
They are both work in progress and our attack will not be silky as some want until both of them get better in some areas. Both are better if they have space and running into but both struggle against a set defense and lack of space and don't move the ball quick enough and give away possession.
10.) 07 Oct 2024 06:44:36
ETH thought we were “very good”
The man is deluded.
11.) 07 Oct 2024 07:46:55
That’s not true at all @Ports. Deeply unfair. It seems everyone in here accepts he has to go now. All it demonstrates is we all differ in levels of patience and belief in his abilities. Also, maybe some were more willing to put their neck on the line much earlier than others to question his suitability to the club. Who knows. If he’s not sacked and goes on a 20-game unbeaten run after the international break then we’ll all look stupid.
Always seems such a shame that differing opinions can’t be treated with less hostility in here. We have no skin in the game. Seems it’s too important to be right rather than contribute to an interesting discussion.
12.) 07 Oct 2024 10:40:46
Red
You like the parsnip man. Take what you need and ignore what you don't need. The man said good defense not good offense.
13.) 07 Oct 2024 10:42:51
It's not just a personal opinion Amad that Garnacho and Hojlund are 2/ 3 seasons off being the finished artcle - they are miles off that, and from what I've seen Zirkzee is even further behind. Can anyone honestly see a 20+ striker amongst those? And if the answers are they're not those types of players, why didn't we try to get one instead of Zirkzee? He is bang average.
14.) 07 Oct 2024 11:54:50
Ports you can copy and paste your defence of eth over and over just as well.
15.) 07 Oct 2024 13:16:07
There's a difference however Ken, your criticism is of ETH as an individual, my defence along with others has always been a defence of the role of Manager at the club with the state the club is in because of the Glazers and their poor leadership over however many years. It's all personal with you and the others.
16.) 08 Oct 2024 20:33:36
Well said Ports ?
Stay the course, the plastics will melt into the gutter eventually.
United Addict's rumour replies
03 Sep 2023 11:27:28
If they don't sell now, there's nobody coming back in with an increased offer surely. Protests aren't working i guess.
04 Jul 2023 15:01:14
Hahaha ahmad your obsession with Antony borders on crazy. It almost rivals the obsession i had with Rashford a couple of seasons ago. Are you actually comparing Diallos season to Antony? What league was Diallo playing in do you have the slightest idea? there's a reason he was sent out on loan and not kept in the first team.
Antony had a decent season, better than any of the other players who were tried on the right wing, including rashford. You need to understand that Antony is a young man in a new country and new league. Give him time to adjust. Do you know what de bruyne stats when he first came to england? Is he a bad player.
I will tell you the same thing that several posters told me when i was trashing Rashford week after week. YOU NEED TO CHILL.
24 Jun 2023 21:36:46
If we are in for him, certainly he is an option on Casemiro.
24 Jun 2023 12:28:44
Yes TopBomin, afterall we are the only top club around and he will wait around forever for us to sign him isn't it? ???.
21 Jun 2023 15:08:03
Havertz going for 65M, i think that sets the tone. I think Mount is a better player plus he is English so that will add to the cost.
United Addict's banter replies
08 Dec 2024 06:44:17
Ouch. That must have hurt you Ahmad. Wasnt this the norm under EtH? You were ok back then. Ahh yes, you have the "injuries" excuse. Its a new structure, new manager. This will take time but i am sure it will not take 2.5 hours of crap to change.
04 Dec 2024 15:41:46
Since when did Ruud's standards fall so low.
04 Nov 2024 16:17:23
How come i am the only one who hasn't seen anything so special with Amad. He really doesn't deserve the hype. Just because Antony isn't doing anything dossnt automatically mean that Amad is good.
30 Oct 2024 08:49:18
This season is a write off as far as league is concerned. If we have a definitive style of play by the rnd of the season, i will call it successful. Anything in the Europa League will be a bonus.
29 Oct 2024 15:46:08
Speak for yourself angel ??? I for one didn't want him in the first place and i think neither did Ken and Red Man so surely there wasnt any excitement. ?.