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10 Aug 2019 09:34:14
I have been very negative about this transfer window. Maybe because of all the hype about how this window would be the most important.

Well! The window was not good enough but i am still excited about the season. Although i think we are putting too much serious pressure on youth and being very reliant on them, i hope they come out very strong and give their best performance. I hope we suffer minor to no injuries as we are very light. It would be great.

If Ole is able to instil his attacking, high pressing game play and this team does not become a victim of fatigue then we may well finish inside the top 4.

Hoping all the best for the new season and hoping for a good performance and a win tomorrow.


1.) 10 Aug 2019 10:22:14
That's better stressda😂😂😂.


2.) 10 Aug 2019 10:48:22
I think we will start well and positively but will fade later in the season. Everyone is looking to Greenwood as the potential star, however, I wonder if Garner maybe the one who also surprises us in midfield.


3.) 10 Aug 2019 11:10:45
Hes a good little player red man. Would also be nice to see him getting game time. We will need extra bodies in there.


4.) 10 Aug 2019 11:59:00
I think Garner, whilst not maybe providing the excitement of an attacker like Greenwood, might be the one who makes it to the very top. Very mature player, reads the game well, and has an eye for goal. I rarely hype up any young players - got my fingers burnt with Januzaj - but I think Garner is the real deal. With Greenwood and Gomes not far behind.


5.) 10 Aug 2019 12:45:50
Much better stresser 😂 just take each game as it comes, you will drive yourself insane worrying about something you can’t control. Like when I bury my head in the sand while my Mrs is out shopping with the “joint account” card.


6.) 10 Aug 2019 12:56:29
Maybe Ole is going to give some youngsters game time, which is why players like Matic and Young will be invaluable squad members. I’d we do play Greenwood, Chong, Gomes, Garner, we need some wise old heads to help them adapt.


7.) 10 Aug 2019 13:52:42
Yeah I think we all got wound up with the deadline. We are light in midfield and possibly upfront. Its a lot of pressure to put on a load of players who are teens an in the early 20s. We're all anxious. All we can do is get on with it.


8.) 10 Aug 2019 15:35:16
As well as Garner, I've been impressed with Ethan Galbraith in the under 23's but maybe one to come through next year.


9.) 10 Aug 2019 18:08:36
Nou I have greenwood, garner then Gomes. But what a trio whatever you put it.


10.) 10 Aug 2019 19:49:03
Young players need time and games, and I hope a couple of them get it .
Greenwood and gomes would be my shout.
The thing is the first time we lose a game the site will go in to melt down shouting for x y z .
Ole, the team the youngster I don't think can really judge until after xmas. But unfortunately they will get judged on a game by game basis.


11.) 10 Aug 2019 22:47:32
That's what I'm worried about jred. I just hope the young lads are strong enough to handle it.


12.) 10 Aug 2019 23:18:39
Angel
It's not just the young lads on the site the older ones are just as bad ;)


13.) 10 Aug 2019 23:32:09
Let's hope they don't start calling for the head of Manager like they did the last one eh ;)


14.) 11 Aug 2019 01:01:07
If you were a young lad playing your first games for your dream club United would you be listening to what’s said on social media or listening to coaches and teammates?

I know what I’d be doing.


15.) 11 Aug 2019 04:45:27
Angle Redman already wants him sacked .
I'm sure most will give him time tho.


16.) 11 Aug 2019 07:46:04
Give him time, there will be plenty more. just like the last one.


17.) 11 Aug 2019 09:22:47
Lots of times people throw double standards around, yet at the same time suggest giving OGS more time than the last three managers. Why is that? The emotional sentimentality of a playing legend being in charge. But that isn’t double standards of course, its just because they love Ole. He is a legend to me, but a playing legend who has done nothing to deserve the managerial position. I doubt they would have appointed him if they had waited to the end of the season and the relegation form that was on display. He should be judged the same as the other managers were.

Today, I support the team as I always have, wish I could be there like I was for decades but I can’t. Get behind the team, wear green and gold and what will be will be, like we sang in 77.


18.) 11 Aug 2019 09:58:14
Or maybe more fans have woken up to the real problems at the club and realised that most if it isn't down to the managers.


19.) 11 Aug 2019 10:12:47
Mort

My position on the strategic issues with the owners, the debt, the structure of the club has been aired on here regularly. The lack of success isn’t just down to the manager, we had one of the best in Mourinho yet they didn’t support him (and it cost us £20m more to sign Maguire a year later) and if he couldn’t succeed it tells you something is inherently wrong. However, that doesn’t make the present manager the right one. However he is in place so we support the team and get on with it.


20.) 11 Aug 2019 11:52:31
Give him more time than the last three managers? Who's been saying that? I think the general consensus is, like with all managers, a bare minimum of two transfer windows at the very least is required. Haven't seen anyone say he deserves more than Jose got. But I have seen a couple on here want him gone before a ball was kicked.


21.) 11 Aug 2019 12:50:40
Who said give him more time? But shouting for him to be sacked already seems a bit harsh.


22.) 11 Aug 2019 14:08:53
Managers have not been the biggest issue for the last 6 years.


23.) 11 Aug 2019 15:08:41
Ken

The biggest issue at the club was the leveraged buy out. Then the lack of any strategy or plan to replace SAF.


24.) 11 Aug 2019 18:34:28
Manager looks a breath of fresh air,


 

 

09 Aug 2019 18:20:04
So according to Ole, signing a forward would have blocked Greenwood.

Well! Then why were the team in continuous negotiation for Dybala and Mandzukic?

Another lame excuse for failed window. I mean which team looking to improve on climb the table sells their best proven goal scorer, second best and most hardworking midfielder and replaces with no one.

Strengthening defence does not mean we can ignore the ongoing attack problem.


1.) 09 Aug 2019 18:50:08
You’re too late Stressha, all of these posts have been done now.

Roll on Sunday!


2.) 09 Aug 2019 19:55:39
It would have been far better to see the manager come out and criticise the board and his bosses wouldn't it? Would have been ideal prep for Sunday to say the day after the transfer window has closed to say he's really not happy with the squad he has.

Undoubtedly things are hardly in perfect working order behind the scenes at United but some of the reactions to this transfer window have been laughable.


3.) 09 Aug 2019 22:42:46
You ever thought it may not be true that they were after these players.


4.) 09 Aug 2019 22:51:13
Sees tha were they in for these players?
Because you read it in the Daily Mail or on Sky sports?
Really?


5.) 10 Aug 2019 03:43:24
How about you guys ask Ed002. Ha?


6.) 10 Aug 2019 07:40:19
@Srestha. "I mean which team looking to improve on climb the table sells their best proven goal scorer".

I'd hazard a guess the team that got fed up with a player who is stacking on the lard on a daily basis and has to be separated from colleagues being aggressive itching for a fight and finally fronting up to M Phelan after being late for a pre season match and missing the bus. The last incident OGS saw as the final straw. Conte is no push over and it will be interesting to see how long it is before lardy bloke falls out with him.


7.) 10 Aug 2019 08:00:34
Even the stories suggested Juventus offered those players to us, not the other way round. Plus Dybala would have likely played as the 10, not the main striker. Making a meal from nothing. I'm glad Greenwood is getting a look in, hopefully Chong, Tuanzebe and Gomes get a few games too.


8.) 10 Aug 2019 08:09:22
This is the diary of football as there's so many ways to interpret the game. However I’m not sure Lukaku was the best at anything and I’m delighted he’s gone as he was clearly causing trouble.


9.) 10 Aug 2019 11:45:02
He was the best at scoring goals at the club, highest scoring attacker both seasons he played.

We have been to, d that the club was looking to replace him, but were more concerned with getting an extra few million than giving themselves enough time to do it.

Now the manager is putting pressure on a 17 year old with basically no experience at the top level by claiming he’s the replacement.


 

 

04 Jun 2019 12:46:52
I am pretty sure Pogba will end up in Juve this summer. So that makes two of our best midfielders leaving in same window.

We already are in need of two midfielders and now will need to replace Pogba and Herrera both. This summer will be tougher than ever.


1.) 04 Jun 2019 13:31:43
Pogba can't see it, we bought him for 90 mil. Was it, with inflation and for us to make money and not look like clowns again, we surely would want up in 150 mil. For him.
Will juve pay that, now they might look to offload a few players in the deal they want rid of, are we going to take them, can't see it happening.
Don't think any side will pay the money we want, and we have to put a big transfer fee on him.


2.) 04 Jun 2019 13:58:44
Fair point Leahy but it looks like they very much want Pogba. Apparenly dybala is unhappy in the current juve style built around Ronaldo. They might sell Dybala to make some cash for Pogba.

People might question Pogba's mentality but he is among the very few quality player we have. I would not sell him personally but if he wants to go, it has to be a big fee. Many clubs have ripped us in the market and this time we should be no less.


3.) 04 Jun 2019 14:42:02
Pogba is our most talent midfielder without a doubt. Yet he is the bad apple that is spoiling the other fruit in the bowl.

He needs to leave this summer, he doesn't want to be here and despite being our best midfielder he has been inconsistent at best. If we can get a large fee for him then great. But we took a hit on Di Maria, and we might have to do it again. We may need to factor in a swap or part exchange if a player we want is available in such a deal to save face.


4.) 04 Jun 2019 15:26:33
There is no other fruit in the bowl to spoil, unless pogbas is influencing chris smalling into not learning how to pass a football or ashely young to not be able to cross.


5.) 04 Jun 2019 16:55:34
DSG, Pogba is not the only footballer we have at the club. Now he might cause problems but he isn't actually responsible for making our other players poor.

However, his attitude can leech into other players. Maybe Rashford's supposed recently speculated poor attitude has been influenced by Pogba. When he broke through and up until the end of last season everything about his attitude was positive, hard working, a dedicated footballer who loves the game and the club. Now supposedly poor trainer who is being distracted by off field interests and has a growing ego.

Now we don't know if any of this is true, he might have always been a poor trainer, or he might be a great trainer and the reports are false. If he has developed a poor attitude that may or may not have happened with Pogba influencing him or not.

But when you have young impressionable lads coming into the first team they often look around a dressing room for people to look up to and imitate. They often don't have the experience to pick the most suitable person to look up to, but often pick the loudest, most outspoken, the one they think is cool. Pogba would count as that player in our squad.

We also currently the have an excellent bunch of youngsters about to break into the squad. Greenwood, Gomes, Chong, Garner, Tuanzebe. Etc. We also have young players such as Rashford, McTominay, Martial, Shaw, Andreas Pereira and Dalot. Who could be influenced by a strong personality.

Lots of potential fruit to spoil.


6.) 04 Jun 2019 17:07:13
What other fruit? What bowel?


7.) 04 Jun 2019 17:16:03
I know Pogba can be blamed for a few things, but causing an alleged outbreak of attitude in Rashford might be stretching it a little, Shaps 😁.


8.) 04 Jun 2019 18:28:32
Stevie, not being ageist but how long has it been since you were young and impressional?

Having recently starting University as a mature student and as such having to spend far too much time surrounded by 18, 19 and 20 year olds I can tell you their attitude is starting to develop at that age and they are very easily influenced. Often not by the people they should be looking to emulate, but by those they shouldn't be. Also on the whole University students tend to be a touch smarter than your average footballer, so should in theory make less stupid decisions.

So yes, a loud, larger than life presence in the dressing room will gain more attention from young impressionable players. As the class of 92 learned from Cantona the current youngsters will learn from Pogba.

On the whole I don't think many people will think of that as a good thing.


9.) 04 Jun 2019 19:38:33
Several respected journalists have reported that he’s had a big influence on Lingard, Rashford and Martial.

{Ed033's Note - these can't be mainstream media journalists then


10.) 04 Jun 2019 19:48:48
Miguel Delaney in “The Independent: says “Just one of many dressing-room concerns right now is that Pogba has a negative influence on Jesse Lingard and Marcus Rashford, the latter of whom is seen to have lost his previously endearing humility”, while Chris Ashton in “The Sun” says: “Pogba runs the United dressing room and he needs a firm hand to keep him in check after yet another dip in form. ” and “And The Sun now reports that Pogba is ‘tearing Manchester United’s dressing room apart’ which will likely see the end to his time at the club.

The 26-year-old is understood to have told team-mates that he doesn’t think United have ‘made any progress’ since he left for Juventus seven years ago.

The report adds that United fear that Solskjaer can’t handle Pogba’s big personality”.


11.) 04 Jun 2019 22:14:38
Wallace. The independent and Sun are one of the crapiest paper. They write without any source so i would not worry about what they say.


12.) 04 Jun 2019 22:19:22
Shappy!

I am not so sure that he is the bad apple. He is loved in french team and is vocal there. I know he is inconsistent but i don't think he is the reason other players are playing poor. If you take pogba and play him in liverpool team, I am pretty sure he would be a massive player for them.

What i mean is, our playing style has taken toll on game play of our players. We actually don't have right players to play high pressing, attacking game which has msde it hard for the few right players we have. I mean for every rashford, Pogba, we have young, smalling.

I would personally get rid of smalling, jones and young before anyone. This guys being terrible are about to complete a decade in our club.


13.) 04 Jun 2019 23:36:42
pogba is a 89 mill flop and could not influence my a se.


14.) 04 Jun 2019 23:57:43
Rashford has always seemed a pretty grounded young man to me, so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt until I actually see or hear him doing something that smacks of attitude. I remember reading an interview with him somewhere, when he first broke into the team, and family seems very important to him, especially his mother. If he's been brought up right, with a stable family background, there's a good chance he won't suddenly be led astray by Evil Pogba.

Has anyone actually seen or heard him do anything that suggests his attitude has suddenly become an issue?


15.) 05 Jun 2019 02:38:01
Paul Pogba is our best player. He is no problem in the french team and the Sun single him out it sells papers.

Want to know what the problem is? The amount of money that has been flung around at Utd and the wages of average players being so high that now everyone thinks entitled to a superstar pay.

P. S. - If Pogba says we haven't progressed since he joined Juve, could we disagree?


16.) 05 Jun 2019 10:13:47
@shappy I would think Lingard may be more to do with Rashford's attitude, no one seems to mind the fact Lingard launched his own clothes line mid-season. Another aspect may be all the attention Rashford is getting, all those little YouTube interviews and skits he is involved in.


17.) 05 Jun 2019 12:44:48
So72, your right Pogba isn't a problem when playing for a side he wants to. He is happy to play in a French side that has a real chance of winning things. He is not happy to be playing at United.

Remember the only reason he came back to United was we were the only fools daft enough to pay what was being asked. He didn't want to return to the club, he saw it as a stepping stone to La Liga.

Then the club blocked a potential move to Barcelona last summer and he threw his toys out the pram, turned the dressing room against the manager which ultimately lead to Mourinho's sacking (although Mourinho certainly didn't help the situation) which also lead to us missing out on UCL football for next season.

I don't understand the number of fans who are desperately clinging on to a player who so plainly holds no affection to our club and who wants to leave so much that he would give up on his dream move to la Liga and move back to Juventus rather than stay with us for one more season.

The guy doesn't want to be here, while that is the case he is toxic to our dressing room. Move him on and bring in players who want to be here.


18.) 05 Jun 2019 15:39:22
Shappy hit the nail on the head. We our trying to build a team around a player who doesn't want to be here. Instead of pogba our focus needs to be on improving positions we have neglected for so long ( no proper wingers, makeshift fullbacks) and assemble a proper balanced squad that plays to a proper system.


19.) 05 Jun 2019 17:18:17
I don't doubt Pogba doesn't want to be here, and there are many sticks to beat him with, but I still don't see anyone telling me how he's supposed to have led Rashford to the dark side, or showing me any evidence that Rashford has developed a bad attitude.


20.) 05 Jun 2019 22:53:24
Pogba is pants and I can't wait to see him leave man utd so we can have a proper player take his place in the squad.

I don't think I've ever seen a more over rated joke of a player and I'm amazed that Madrid or Juve want to pay so much money for him. Charlatan.


 

 

12 Aug 2015 15:38:51
Valencia based station claim that Otamendi has signed for Man United.They are also claiming that they've got tax based proof which really sounds to be concrete. Any idea eds?

{Ed001's Note - I don't know if anything has changed, but negotiations have been ongoing for a long time, so it would be about time!}


1.) 12 Aug 2015 17:00:21
Then it must be time ed. Thanks for your reply


2.) 12 Aug 2015 17:17:20
Ed001 you absolute legend. Thanks as always for the site and your straight talking, inoffensive, fair, honest responses to the majority of oats on this site.
Quick question for you from myself, what is/was it about the Otamendi situation that has caused so much hassle?
Cheers pal.

{Ed001's Note - it was the amount, a lot is down to them wanting you to pay not just the buyout clause but also the tax on the amount. This is quite a common issue when Spanish clubs sell to other clubs. It can quite often make the negotiations drag on as most buying clubs are not happy about paying that, for obvious reasons. Initially you offered under the buyout clause and they were holding out for the buyout and tax amount, hence the negotiations which have been off and on for a while.}


3.) 12 Aug 2015 17:43:36
Not sure if I'm right on this but I think it's because a buyout clause has to be bought out by the player himself, so we effectively need to give the transfer fee to Otamendi so that he can then buy himself out of the contract, and as we are giving him the money it is seen as income so it can be taxed.
Cheers for the info ed always look forward to your input


4.) 12 Aug 2015 22:11:07
Ed001 would this be a similar reason as to why it took us nearly a year to sign Herrera?

{Ed001's Note - yes. Hence why I wouldn't hold my breath on this one!}


5.) 13 Aug 2015 17:14:18
TV reporting that Utd have no interest in Otamendi. If(?) we believe them, no wonder Ed001 said 'don't hold your breath'.


 

 

03 Aug 2015 16:43:33
Several reports reporting that Pedro will be done as soon as tomorrow . How true is that ed?

{Ed004's Note - I don't think it will be done by tomorrow however I think there is a good chance he will be signed}


1.) 03 Aug 2015 19:14:12
Reports also saying we could be interested in pepe and we're hoping to get him and pedro in to finish off our transfer business. Be interesting to know what use all think of pepe ?


2.) 03 Aug 2015 19:36:37
I wondered when pepes name would come up! Certainly better than jones evans and smalling put together so why not


3.) 03 Aug 2015 19:41:26
I can't stand Phil Jones and Jonny Evans, but I would rather have them in my team than Pepe. I can not stand the guy. We don't need him in our team getting sent off or rolling around on the ground like he has been shot.

Otamendi, Garay, inigo Martinez, howedes, rudiger yes, Pepe, hell no!


4.) 03 Aug 2015 20:49:08
I totally agree huggy don't want him either but we definitely need someone our cbs are far too injury prone I'm surprised we haven't looked at inigo martinez would be a shrewd signing


5.) 03 Aug 2015 22:58:37
This is getting ridiculous now. Pepe is one of the best centre backs in the world with vast experience and you would all rather Jones, Evans, Rojo and Smalling?! i'm done


6.) 04 Aug 2015 05:41:43
No one wants Pepe? And you guys prefer the softies in our team? Goodness. Wonder why he starts so consistently all the time in one of the best line-ups in the world! I would love him here and prefer him to smack some opposition CFs time and again. Our team actual needs some tough jobs. Its gone too soft. How can one not want Pepe? Deary me.


7.) 04 Aug 2015 06:32:29
Pepe is a walking red card and a childish play actor. That's why people don't want him.


8.) 04 Aug 2015 08:34:30
Rafael was sold because he was said to be too "reckless". I wonder what LVG would make of Pepe

. you only need to look at Portugal's opening world cup 2014 game if you want an idea of why nobody wants him near our team.


9.) 04 Aug 2015 09:26:11
Probably the same people who didn't want Roy Keane because he used to kick people and get sent off a lot, he didn't do too badly.

You find when the 'horrible dirty player' is on your team you actually quite like him.


10.) 04 Aug 2015 09:55:31
Not a massive fan of Pepe and his antics but he'd improve our team significantly. GDS hits the nail on the head perfectly re: how easy it is to overlook and/or accept the personality flaws of your own players.


11.) 04 Aug 2015 10:14:15
Think Pepe would fit EPL very good and would be the no shit CB we need! His reputation isn't the best though, but still would do more good than bad!


12.) 04 Aug 2015 10:24:15
I would hate to see Pepe in a United shirt. Never forget that assault on Casquero. If you hate Suarez for biting you absolutely cannot like Pepe.


13.) 04 Aug 2015 11:58:05
not Pepe! Please no!


14.) 04 Aug 2015 12:09:05
GDS. I take your point but don't necessarily agree that Pepe can be that kind of player for united.


 

 

 

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06 Oct 2019 19:22:28
The people who were calling us toxics are finally realising that we were realists infact. We bottled the transfer window completely. Not only in terms of not signing the players we needed but selling the players that are falsely classified "deadwood" while real deadwoods are still in the club.

I frankly expected all of this happening. Of course i did not expect to be in relegation battle but Gosh this is bad. Lampard came just months ago and his vision is crystal clear in his team, let alone the fact that he wasnt able to buy players, he has done what a manager has to do.

I don't understand how the club of our stature started this season so unprepared. Woodward and Glazers are major culprit but Ole is the one to share the blame as well. At least Mourinho stood against these idiots. Ole is a yes man trapped in the naivity and saying all the right things but doing opposite.

I can see us conceding 3 4 goals against liverpool and getting into relegation considering we have couple of away games in line.

Liverpool are walking the league in just 8 games and we are battling at the lowest part of table.

Gosh. This is heart breaking.


1.) 06 Oct 2019 20:02:37
Everyone is blaming ole but no one mentioned phelan Carrick or McKenna.
Phelan has been sacked from every job he's had. He by all counts has a a very big saying on team selection coaching tactics etc. Carrick just like ole is very reserved show no passion on the touchline. Not sure about McKenna. Rumours of players not happy with his style of coaching. Ole does look well out of his depth. But he has to have at least 2 windows to get players in and out. He got rid of Fellini Lukaku, tried getting rid of rojo smalling Sanchez's gone on loan. Matic will go in January probably. Lingard young Fred and jones hopefully at the end of season.


2.) 06 Oct 2019 20:05:27
Draig read the posts lots of blame attached to the entire coaching squad.


3.) 06 Oct 2019 20:08:22
Funny Draig. You still giving him 2 windows. I won't give him 2 more minutes.


4.) 06 Oct 2019 20:09:08
He got rid of Fellaini, Lukaku? Sanche on loan? They and Herrera could have won this game for us. I am not sad they were sold but selling them without replacing. seriously?
We already have paper thin squad and you see us selling Matic in Jan. It doesn't work that way.


5.) 06 Oct 2019 20:22:16
Stretha, there's a difference between toxic and passionate. People call us toxic as we speak the truth and the truth hurts, but in actual fact, we're realists and passionate about the club. I went to every match, home and away from 1969 till 1999. When I'm told I'm toxic, it hurts. My wife will tell you, I live and breath United as I love the club and our past achievements.
But this situation is shambolic and heads have to roll.
The Glazers could ignore us, but time will come when they have to do what owners do, manage responsibly with passion and drive. Csn they do that? Not in my opinion, so as the revenue and share price dwindles, so will their fortunes. They will sell up, but for now, worse days lie ahead I'm afraid. If that's toxic, so be it. If everyone got their heads out of their bums, they'll see what's happening.


6.) 06 Oct 2019 20:27:49
Draig, I've been saying for some time that phelan is the worst coach I've seen and carrick is as stead and unmotivating as can be. So we have the manager and coaches who are all dour, and the football we're playing is imaging their characters.


7.) 06 Oct 2019 20:51:46
Srestha,

You might as well have just typed ‘I told you do’. Enjoying this far too much for my liking.


8.) 06 Oct 2019 21:14:58
Wow GDS. That is what you got from my whole post? I have no agenda against you GDS. We both want our club to get where it belongs. "I told you so" is the part where me and many fans were right to question the club when we saw things going wrong and now it has, we have the right to speak about it.

I am not saying "I told you so", but i am saying that we had to united against the maniacs before but we were not united ourselves. Now we desperately need to be united against these jokers before they create even more mess.


9.) 06 Oct 2019 21:18:58
Gds there can be no pleasure in this for anybody imo.
I posted last week that the whole situation saddened me.
Usually when you want a manager change you feel a dislike or a frustration towards him. But i like ole. He really wants to do well and he loves the club. But ge is simply out of his depth i hope we identify a new coach and ole can be talked into stepping aside and resign in the best interests of the club.


10.) 06 Oct 2019 21:29:42
I don't know how we going to score a goal my gosh. We are in relegation form right now.

Rashford is winger and ole keeps playing him as front man.
He doesn't even make simple runs and keeps asking for the ball in his feet all the time.

No pattern of play no philosophy ole is just clueless and a yes man to Woodward.

We are getting poisonous as a club and keep destroying careers of managers from moyes to Jose to ole.

Something has to be done quickly or we will keep sliding downwards.
Woodward Glazer's must go go go.


11.) 06 Oct 2019 21:45:51
There's a difference between passionate and toxic. Most fans are passionate but some are toxic. The Glazers aren't going anywhere soon.


12.) 06 Oct 2019 22:38:05
I have a gut feeling Ole won't be here for the Liverpool game. I know he's a very single minded, determined man, but I just feel he'll think he can't turn this round. Just a hunch.

{Ed047's Note - there is a possibility that they gave him the job with certain understandings and they have no intention of parting company with him.


13.) 07 Oct 2019 02:14:00
I agree with ed here and i don't think Ole will be sacked anytime soon. They will see how he does until The end of month and if we are still around the relegation zone then he will get sacked.

This whole situation is a mess qe shouldn't have been in the first place.


14.) 07 Oct 2019 18:56:08
From what Ed47 said, I m getting the impression that part of Ole s job is to
- move certain players out
-integrate as much youngsters as possible, to see which ones could make it or not
-See if certain players whose career stalled like Martial can improve
-sign new players to build a new team.

The main issue apart from the poor performance is that budget for new players is limited (100 m net spending was mentioned in summer) . Moreover the lengthy process every transfer took, didn't help. The excuse that the club works only on 1 transfer at a time, Imo was to cover up the clubs lack of ambition in the transfer market.

Now we ended with a squad unbalanced - very light in midfield and upfront. So light that we re almost dependent on two players - Martial and Pogba (and to a lesser extent on James) who both are injured.


I imagine that the top managers around would not have accepted these conditions because they knew that the team was in for a rough ride.

I might be wrong but that s my impression of the state of affairs.


 

 

26 Sep 2019 11:48:24
Hypothetical question.

After coming second, if board had given Jose all the players he needed (irrespective of age and prufe), where would we be now?

I am pretty sure Jose would not be as negative as he turned out to be. A happy manager could have really changed things.

With his desired signings, our season wouldn't be that bad and i think he wouldn't have been sacked.

It is all if's and but's but I think our rebuilding would have gone good.


1.) 26 Sep 2019 12:24:37
But we would be playing boring footie. 😂😂😂😂.


2.) 26 Sep 2019 12:29:17
I think we would have a bunch of old player and Jose would still been gone because he did not play attacking football and that’s what we crave.


3.) 26 Sep 2019 12:37:43
I think we would have challenged at the top last season and won a trophy.


4.) 26 Sep 2019 13:03:18
Ole would have been rippin it up at Molde.


5.) 26 Sep 2019 12:55:30
You could be right srestha but the way jose handled himself in his third season and especially on that pre season tour was disgraceful regardless of whether or not he got his signings.

Ed002 repeatedly said mourinho was never really happy in manchester and these problems would have surfaced whether or not he got his centre back in or not.

For example club captain antonio valencia would still have been a passenger, mourinho still would have fallen out with pogba, lukaku would still have been 24 stone, alexis sanchez would still have been a doing a poor imitation of a professional footballer, rashford and martial would still have been marginalised, matic still would have been slower than gemma collins running a 5K and juan mata still would have been a highly paid blogger.


6.) 26 Sep 2019 13:36:48
I don't know if he would've been happy because he was never happy in Manchester. Lukaku's first touch, Pogba's workrate and positioning and Matic's slow movement wouldn't have changed.

What I do know is that we would've had Red Man's favorite manager with a glorious CV who can do no wrong and we wouldn't have been subjected to the same whiny posts and new ways to find fault with the manager from him every alternate day.

{Ed047's Note - but it’s ok to read whiny posts about whiny posts? 🤷‍♂️


7.) 26 Sep 2019 13:41:37
You never know DSG. With better players around this players, they could have really come out good.


8.) 26 Sep 2019 13:44:06
Jose would have targeted Perisic to provide supply for Lukaku.
He would have targeted Alderweirald and Joao Felix.
He is a proven serial winner. So maybe we would have been challenging for the title.


9.) 26 Sep 2019 15:20:25
Jose wasnt happy in manchester because he wasnt backed like he should have been and was promised the opposite of what he got! simple as that.


10.) 26 Sep 2019 17:27:14
He's always played boring football. We would've bought another 5 30yr old players. And things will still be the same.
Ole is not great, but he's trying to change the culture.


11.) 26 Sep 2019 18:00:50
REDFAITH

Firstly Mourinho is not my favourite manager. No idea how many times I have to keep saying it. You want me to repeat what I said on here going back to before Moyes was a ridiculous notion? If he could do no wrong he would never have been sacked anywhere, but he had this knack of winning trophies. I now get harassed just for answering the straightforward question from a poster without the post even mentioning the failed Cardiff manager.


12.) 26 Sep 2019 18:04:41
Don’t have a clue where we’d be if Jose is backed, but AAA what evidence is there that Ole is trying to change the culture?

Wasn’t Jose’s biggest gripe that club refused to move on players he claimed had a bad attitude, and wouldn’t carry out his instructions on the pitch?

How has Ole changed this? Have you seen a change in attitude and effort since last December?


13.) 26 Sep 2019 19:13:48
It's an impossible question to answer.
Alderwireld is in a leaky spurs defence this season.
I tend to think if jose had his way last summer 18 then pogba would have been gone and we would be better off other think the opposite but who knows its all guessing and conjecture.


14.) 26 Sep 2019 19:14:40
We should of stuck with Jose and backed him against Pogba. Pogba needs to be sold asap . Ole is not the answer i think he will walk at Christmas with us sitting in 10th 🤣🤣 I've said it before only Roy Keane with a calming Assistant will get us going again.

{Ed025's Note - roy keane would be a nightmare BFRO not only is he a egotistical maniac but a grade 1 arsehole to boot, he would destroy any confidence the players have left and would have the media on your backs due to having no personality at all to speak of mate..


15.) 26 Sep 2019 19:31:02
Point taken ed25 but SAF and Jose both had problem with the media. Man Utd has lost the fear factor Mr Keane would definitely bring it back 🤣🤣.

{Ed025's Note - i would certainly fear for you if you appointed him mate..


16.) 26 Sep 2019 20:18:01
I said it ages ago Ed, but Roberto Martinez is the man. Top bloke, great with the players, great with the press and plays good football. Not the best defensively I admit, but nor is Pep. That's what defensive coaches are for! 😀.

{Ed025's Note - he was a breath of fresh air when he came to everton betty for all the reasons you have stated, we have turned into a graveyard for managers mate and i dont think you are far behind, everton were very gung-ho under bobby which made us good to watch but easy to beat and that wins you friends but not trophies..


 

 

22 Sep 2019 17:13:20
GDS and Shappy

Please come and tell us why not investing in the team was not a big deal. Why we have no divine right to win. Why this transition will take 20 years? Why Lukaku, Herrera, Fellaini, Sanchez never needed replacing.

Fans who always have been aiming for top 4 now need new aim that is top 6. Soon, not only because of naive board but because also of naive fans who don't get bothered when this club gets into another mess will find us getting into new mess.

Please don't say it is rebuilding and not going to be quick fix. I saw you guys beig happy with the team we have when we didn't buy anyone upfront and now have seen your post where you think this team needs 4 5 new additions.

I might need to consider stoping watching United for a while because no kidding, it has seriously been affecting my health. Not a joke. I am dead serious.

West ham were bang average today and still miles better than us. I saw fans here telling we played good against wolves, cry, southampton, leicester. I think they will get a stroke if we make them watch liverpool and rubbishy. The good performance definition this fanbase has is absurd.


1.) 22 Sep 2019 17:45:36
Srestha,

What are you on about?

If football is affecting your health I suggest you take a break and work out what it actually means to you. We are level or above all of the teams anyone on here said would be 3rd or 4th and I’ve said from before pre season that Ole wasn’t backed enough in the summer and the team would underperform this season.

We have been even unluckier than I thought with injuries which is killing us, but if you were expecting anything other than inconsistency this season then your hopes were too high. I’m not saying for a second that we should be ok with how bad we are, it was just always going to be a tough season and we will know more about where we are at once players are back and we are about 15-20 games in.

Very disappointing today, poor performance and ending the game with no strikers is a real worry. I wanted us to sign Mandzukic or Llorente as I thought we could do with a different option up top but people on here said that was ridiculous.

A post calling out myself and Shappy just because we lost a game is pretty pathetic but hopefully you’re happy with my response.


2.) 22 Sep 2019 17:53:15
In fairness GDS, you made a post on Thursday calling out people for not celebrating our epic victory over Kazakhstan‘s finest.


3.) 22 Sep 2019 18:02:33
Srestha - if you need to stop watching United because we’re not winning that’s fine. Just don’t come back when we are. Supporting the team is through thick and thin.


4.) 22 Sep 2019 18:03:46
I don't seem to recall you saying Ole wasnt backed enough. You were pretty happy with the window and called is drama queens and all stuff. I seem to recall you not wanting to replace lukaku, fellaini and herrera at all. Mandzukic only came to your mind when we got linked with him. Please don't deny that.

The only reason we still have hope for 3rd or 4th is because other teams are playing just as bad we are.

We were always in for tough season because we were not ready for it and one chance to get slightly more prepared for it in the window was a huge disaster and you guys did not bothered then. don't deny that.

And yes i am probably now going to watch highlights for couple of matches because it has been killing me.

The team that made me forget every other problem and made me love football, look at the state of it.


5.) 22 Sep 2019 18:09:49
Srestha we need a miracle for 4th.


6.) 22 Sep 2019 18:10:50
Srestha,

None of the things you’re saying ever happened so I’ve got nothing to say to you.

I’ve said from the beginning of the season that I think we are short and that Ole will struggle, get sacked and leave a better younger team than he found. I’ve been quite clear about that and posted is a few times. I’ve never called anyone drama queens but reading your posts today I can imagine why you might think I would.

Don’t know if you’ve got me mixed up with someone else or just fancy an argument.

You can watch whatever you want, I’ll be there on Wednesday and the Monday after for another tough game getting behind the lads. It kills me when we lose, you seem to think you’re the only one it affects.


7.) 22 Sep 2019 18:11:52
That's the way people are these days. The only opinions that matter are their own. I've seen people here bashing others and calling them negative if they point out any problems with the team but when they do it, it's constructive criticism.
We are expected to spam the page with essays praising the players after our hard fought victory over some team in Europa league but not allowed to vent any frustration if we get outclasses by a very average team in our own league.


8.) 22 Sep 2019 18:13:25
Srestha, I'd suggest you've got your priorities seriously messed up, if watching a football team lose is affecting your health.


9.) 22 Sep 2019 18:27:48
Halesini. Get a grip mate. I am supporting this team through thick and thin. You make me sound like i am changing the team. Who in wants to stay the whole night awake to see his team lose and go to work with no sleep at all.


10.) 22 Sep 2019 18:30:00
I recall how clear you have been GDS that is why i remember you clearly. don't want to argue with you but you pretty much seemed complacent on how the window goes.

Ole might get sacked but i don't think he will leave a much better team. We are thin in the front and the mid and you don't need to be genius to see that.


11.) 22 Sep 2019 18:30:30
Sailor,

We are all on here to see other people’s opinions or there’s no point coming on. We are never all going to agree. Thursday night we won and nobody posted, last week we won and hardly any posts. This week we lose and the same old people on here, like clockwork. I post win or lose generally.


12.) 22 Sep 2019 18:51:07
‘I might need to consider stoping watching United for a while because no kidding, it has seriously been affecting my health. Not a joke. I am dead serious. ’

And you think I need to get a grip Srestha?

How was your reaction after Chelsea opening day win? Guessing that was an ok day.

We all know we are half a team short. We all know we are unlikely to get those anytime soon. It is a long season ahead. A long 3 seasons minimum.


13.) 22 Sep 2019 18:53:46
What is it that people are supposed to say gds, Leicester dominated us, we some how came away with a win without playing well, against astana we weren't great either, outside of the goal from Greenwood none of the kids did much of note.

There wasn't much positive to say of those wins, and most clearly did not want to be negative about those results as we had won but you were happy to gloat about it then and called people out, now it seems you don't like it when the shoe's in the other foot.


14.) 22 Sep 2019 18:57:44
I'm just not surprised by these results, could see them coming, I said before a ball was kicked we wouldn't get top 4,
Now there's nothing we can do for another year so we will just have to support united even though it kills me too to see this happening.
Now it time to look at who is running this club and ask some serious questions
No good falling out over it.


15.) 22 Sep 2019 19:14:08
What an odd post srestha

Take a break mate.


16.) 22 Sep 2019 19:54:42
It’s a game of football. We’ve been rubbish for years. Get out a bit and have a good time!


17.) 22 Sep 2019 20:21:15
Csm,

Gloating? Don’t we all support the same team?

Strange that you see me celebrating a win for the team you support as gloating, I don’t understand it at all.


18.) 22 Sep 2019 21:58:05
We are a long way away from being a decent team. We needed minimum 5 players this window. We got 3 and sold 2. We then replaced the 2 forwards sold with the 2 who they had actually been bought to replace in the first place.
On here everyone said calm down the window is not shut yet.
We waited and nobody else came in. We were still told to give the kids a chance and that Rashford and Martial can lead our line.

Complete and utter rubbish. Rashford though young is not st the level required and Martial is lazy. That is before we consider injuries, which low and be hold have happened and now we don’t have a striker.
For a club our size that is embarrassing,
Players needed replacing and the Glaziers have not spent the money plain and simple.

As for not commenting when we win it’s because we can all see the current squad has many average players and days like today will continue until we invest correctly in some real quality.
As for people saying we did not say it after the Chelsea game, it’s because we live in hope however we were very lucky to not be one or two down before we scored against Chelsea.
I will leave you with a sobering thought, Man City spent more money than we did in the last window despite doing the domestic treble but some people on here were still happy with our window,


 

 

08 Aug 2019 10:56:12
For every year since SAF retired, I have seen fans claiming that they will be happy with top 4 for the next season. According to this genius, we get top 4 and then challenge for the title and then win it. Bollocks. If you always aim top 4 then you will get stucked at it, just like Arsenal.

Every year these fans claimed the same and can't believe even after 6 7 years, now they are claiming to be satisfied after we get top 4. It is depressing. The club must be working on winning the title. Even if we are not good enough, having that mindset to win the title will eventually take us to top 4 and we will still have the hunger to fight for more.

Having less ambition has messed this club. I could understand that from the club who are in mess but fans here as well? This window has been a disaster for me. We addressed defense which should have been done years ago. We let go two midfielders and our most proven striker and have not replaced them. Whos says all of those can't be bought in same window?

These fans who claim themselves to be positive one and other dramaqueen will probably aim for top 4 for next 10 years and get stucked at it.


1.) 08 Aug 2019 11:45:43
I’ve been saying it for years. There are people on here that act like they want United to slip further away from the top because it proves that they’re ‘real’ supporters. They say let’s wait and see for the entire transfer window, and when it all goes tits up and we make a mess of things, they tell people to shut up and support the players already here.

We are one of the richest clubs on the planet. For years we have abjectly failed in the transfer market. The club has resisted any change to the current setup. They have dragged their heals on bringing in a DoF. They have behaved in an amateur way this summer, completely failing to revamp a squad lagging far behind those challenging for the title.

We have too many fans that are full time apologists for mediocracy. I want the club to be challenging for titles, to have ambition, and to be focused on footballing rather than business success.

We have supporters who are more than willing to lay the blame on managers and individual players, but spend the entire summer trying to deflect blame from an incompetent transfer team who bungle through each and every window.


2.) 08 Aug 2019 11:56:32
Srestha, being positive/ optimistic does not mean being unrealistic of our chances especially with the state the club currently is in. Also, fans like me implying on finishing in the top 4 are not saying we would be satisfied with that year in year out, but it is more of a first step to get us back into champions league and then improve from thereon. CL is crucial for us in terms of finances and also attracting the top quality players.

Unfortunately, the mess created in the past several years with frequent change of managers, coaching staff, tactics, training methods and a total breakdown of our transfer policy has put the club in a difficult spot. And with such a state of instability the least the fans can do is try to be positive/ optimistic and hope for the best.


3.) 08 Aug 2019 12:11:22
LetsPlay, that was what was said last year as well. let's get top 4 and then progress. But unfortunately, as soon as we got top 4 the owners decided that no investment was required and we slipped back. This year even if we make it to the top 4, the history suggests that the owners will be satisfied and might decide not to make changes to the playing staff. We will forever be playing catch-up. Look at Real Madrid, they knew they needed to get in players and they did while here we are, supposedly the richest club in the world, taking baby steps.


4.) 08 Aug 2019 12:19:34
Great post Srestha.
Positive and aimimg for 4rt is in fashion these days.
Going for title is out of fashion lol.


5.) 08 Aug 2019 12:49:11
Letsplay!

Dont you get it. The team has glaring weakness which if not addressed will have us another manager sacked and your cycle will start again. Best way is to back a manager with everything possible so that the manager can succeed. Working step wise idea is dumb. You call yourself realist then realise how much of mess we are in stop acting like we had a wonderful window.

"Getting top 4, then title". This has been going on for years. I am sure with this type of average minded ambition we will be in even deeper mess.


6.) 08 Aug 2019 12:32:26
It's mad that its 7 years. We laugh at the Scousers and their 30 years but in the blink of an eye we could be at 10.


7.) 08 Aug 2019 12:59:35
Never thought I’d agree with you United Addict. but you are spot on. If anyone thinks we cannot do a big rebuild then look at the likes of city a few years ago and the two Madrid teams this year. Sure it takes time to plan it but this summer was the perfect opportunity. We could have had young, smalling, Jones and Rojo off the books but we go and give them huge contracts. It is clear where the deficiencies in the side are yet we only brought in 3 players.

We knew pogba and Lukaku wanted to leave yet we let the sagas drag on until the last day where we have no time to find replacements. Where is the direction and leadership? As ed said, the club is run by amateurs. Arsenal are a side considered in a tough situation yet they have a clear plan and direction led by sanllehi. Until we fix our structure and plan for the long term, we will be lurching from mistake to mistake, throwing obscene amounts of money on players who either don’t want to be here or not good enough. This aiming for 4th business is rubbish. We should be aiming to win every year.

I feel sorry for ole. I think he has done brilliantly this pre season and has integrated the youth well. But it’s grossly unfair on Youngsters to put all this pressure on them to perform. Before you know it, our fan base will be slaughtering Greenwood for missing a few chances. Like I said, I’m normally very positive but I feel so deflated. An injury to pogba or a return of his disinterested self and we are done. I really think ole can build something here. But not being given the tools and we will be making a new appointment in a years time. And then the cycle goes again.

I apologise if I’m being negative. I’m trying to assess both sides without blindly ignoring the fact we are ill equipped in midfield this season. Matches are won in midfield. Simple as. And ours is woeful imo. There are positives like I said with greenwood Chong, Tuanzebe and Gomes. Really happy with Maguire and wan Bissaka is going to be a star. But they aren’t enough. I will be there at old Trafford on Sunday and I will sing my heart out like I always do because I love this club. But we as fans, and ole, have been grossly let down by the powers above. That should not be overlooked.


8.) 08 Aug 2019 13:16:03
Srestha, where did I say I am a realist? And you can look at my other posts where I am looking at the positives and being optimistic, I have also talked about the glaring deficiencies in the squad. Don't just presume things just to make a point.

I have also mentioned about the frequent change of managers among others in my reply, if you are hasty enough to miss my point, that's not my fault.

Also, we as fans can have all the positive mindset but it is the team as a whole who need it the most for us to challenge for major honours.


 

 

03 Aug 2019 08:46:32
Hi Ed002,

If you have time, if dybala signs, how do you think he will fare for us. Will he be success in your opinion?

And considering Maguire is done, if we further add Dybala and Bruno, how will you see us faring in the league.

Would very much love your input.

{Ed002's Note - (a) The player does not want to join Manchester United, so it could just disappear. (b) Fifth or sixth should be achievable.}


1.) 03 Aug 2019 12:11:12
Fifth or sixth would be absolutely horrible ed. I am hopeful for 3rd position. With defense sorted out and likely addition of Bruno and Dybala (not really excited by him really), I can see getting just behind City and liverpool.


2.) 03 Aug 2019 13:39:29
Ed, I'm assuming United know that Dybala doesn't want to join? It makes United look even more daft if Dybala is openly expressing he does not want to join United, yet we still pursue it.

One other question Ed, have United discussed any other players as an alternative with to Dybala with Juve?

Thanks.

{Ed002's Note - Dybala is the only player in his position that Juventus want to move on.}


 

 

 

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10 Aug 2019 03:43:24
How about you guys ask Ed002. Ha?


 

 

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07 Jul 2019 15:47:08
Ed002 for Technical Director. Anyone? 😊.


 

 

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04 Jun 2019 22:19:22
Shappy!

I am not so sure that he is the bad apple. He is loved in french team and is vocal there. I know he is inconsistent but i don't think he is the reason other players are playing poor. If you take pogba and play him in liverpool team, I am pretty sure he would be a massive player for them.

What i mean is, our playing style has taken toll on game play of our players. We actually don't have right players to play high pressing, attacking game which has msde it hard for the few right players we have. I mean for every rashford, Pogba, we have young, smalling.

I would personally get rid of smalling, jones and young before anyone. This guys being terrible are about to complete a decade in our club.


 

 

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04 Jun 2019 22:14:38
Wallace. The independent and Sun are one of the crapiest paper. They write without any source so i would not worry about what they say.


 

 

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04 Jun 2019 13:58:44
Fair point Leahy but it looks like they very much want Pogba. Apparenly dybala is unhappy in the current juve style built around Ronaldo. They might sell Dybala to make some cash for Pogba.

People might question Pogba's mentality but he is among the very few quality player we have. I would not sell him personally but if he wants to go, it has to be a big fee. Many clubs have ripped us in the market and this time we should be no less.


 

 

 

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06 Oct 2019 21:14:58
Wow GDS. That is what you got from my whole post? I have no agenda against you GDS. We both want our club to get where it belongs. "I told you so" is the part where me and many fans were right to question the club when we saw things going wrong and now it has, we have the right to speak about it.

I am not saying "I told you so", but i am saying that we had to united against the maniacs before but we were not united ourselves. Now we desperately need to be united against these jokers before they create even more mess.


 

 

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06 Oct 2019 20:09:08
He got rid of Fellaini, Lukaku? Sanche on loan? They and Herrera could have won this game for us. I am not sad they were sold but selling them without replacing. seriously?
We already have paper thin squad and you see us selling Matic in Jan. It doesn't work that way.


 

 

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26 Sep 2019 13:41:37
You never know DSG. With better players around this players, they could have really come out good.


 

 

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26 Sep 2019 04:32:37
GDS. I know u are being sarcastic but you pretty much sounded similar during the window as well.

Most of your comments seemed like it did not bother you at all about how lame our transfer startegy was.


 

 

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23 Sep 2019 02:34:00
I said I am getting health issues but frankly can never stop watching us no matter how horrible we are.