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21 Oct 2020 07:38:00
Eric Bailly out for 3-4 weeks with muscle injury confirmed . Feel sorry for the lad but its a business and might be wise to think about cashing in if he can't stay fit, obviously more to it than plain bad luck he might just be one of those injury prone players his whole career.


1.) 21 Oct 2020 08:42:09
I said this over the summer, while I think Bailly is one of our better centre backs, the lad just can't stay fit.

2.) 21 Oct 2020 09:28:21
I don’t even think he’s that good. Bailly, Rojo and Jones all need to be shipped out and replaced. Promote Tuanzebe and one other, and buy another CB.

Tuanzebe last night was incredible. Now if he can stay fit!

3.) 21 Oct 2020 10:04:59
If Tuanzebe can stay fit then he can become a great option for us. Mengi also looks a super talent. Add that to Maguire and Lindelof (who aren't half as bad as most people seem to think) . Then we have some decent players to work with, if we play three at the back then Shaw looks well suited to the LCB role, maybe look to bring in another left footed CB to complete with him and add some balance to our defensive options.

4.) 21 Oct 2020 12:07:50
I’m with you Eric, I don’t see what Bailly has to offer us. It probably says more about the quality of our other CBs that Bailly is highly thought of.

5.) 21 Oct 2020 15:55:17
Really like Tuanzebe. But most importantly, we looked much more in control and focused. Lindelof looks much more assured when not playing with Maguire.

Maguire's positional sense is a nightmare which gives those around him more work to do. But when lindelof plays with a more competent centre half, like Tuanzebe last night, it just seems to work better.

But I'm sure Maguire will walk back in unfortunately.

And shappy, mengi, he is the one. Honestly, really excited to see him when he makes the step up. We shouldn't need to buy another CB with him around.

6.) 21 Oct 2020 17:12:13
Angel, Mengi looks potentially like a top level talent. However, that jump from academy to professional football is vast, and many highly talented players have fallen by the wayside.

To be honest if looking at our central options when playing with three at the back we have Lindelof, Maguire and Shaw as first choice and I think they work well together. Tuanzebe and Mengi coming through to challenge those in the first 11. What we really need is another left footed (or at least left sided) centre back to challenge Shaw.

When playing three at the back the RCB and the LCB need to be comfortable moving wider into areas more traditionally covered by the full back. Which is why ideally you want a left footed LCB.

There are some very good options out there who could be available. David Alaba, if he can't sort out a new deal with Bayern would excel in the role. While players like Pau Torres, Zagadou, Bastoni, Badiashile and Ndicka could all offer solid options as well, all being left footed.

While Mengi has played on the left of the centre back partnership and at LB on occasion, so while being right footed he could easily enough cover there.

7.) 21 Oct 2020 17:51:14
I'm still not convinced with Lindelof angel.
He has not improved over time.
He still gets bullied and struggles in one vs one situations.

I'd like us to go for a top class CB like Giminez or Upamecano, to compete with Maguire, Lindelof and Tuanzebe.

8.) 21 Oct 2020 23:37:53

You say unfortunately our captain will walk straight back in but I thought he had a very good game against Newcastle, he won absolutely everything and looked so assured after he got his goal.

9.) 22 Oct 2020 09:40:11
I think a back three with quick players either side of Maguire suits him. It allows him to step forward into midfield with the ball with adequate protection either side of him.

While I think Lindelof has better defensive instincts than Maguire, Harry is far more physical and certainly stronger in the air.

While we played excellently against PSG one thing I did note was PSG never tried the aerial route. Which suited us as Shaw and Lindelof are okay at best in the air and Tuanzebe is untested at the highest level.

In the EPL Maguire might be the better option. In Europe Lindelof might be the better option.

10.) 22 Oct 2020 12:33:46
I don’t get this obsession with needing a left footed CB. Especially as most wingers are now inverted and cut inside, moving on to the defenders right foot. It seems mythical to me.

11.) 22 Oct 2020 23:41:45
Wazza, it's about balance and shape. I would agree in a back four a left footed CB is less important. However, when you play a back three the LCB will have to move out to cover the LB area of the pitch. Which is why being left footed in that situation is preferable.

While the current fashion for higher pressing means that centre backs need to play passes quicker while maintaining accuracy. If you are right footed playing on the left, your options for a quick pass are limited to those players playing on your left, either LB or LW. Whereas a left footed player has a wider area of the pitch to play passes quickly.

If you're right footed and you are pressed then you will have to turn so your left hand side is shielding the ball. If you do that on the left hand side of the pitch you are turning inward towards your goal and then your passing option is limited to your CB partner or maybe a longer more dangerous pass across your box to your RB. If they are marked then you are screwed.

The advantage of a right footed player on the right and a left footed player on the left. Is that the players can play passes more quickly off their stronger foot. While if they are pressed they will naturally, instinctively turn their body in such a way that they will play away from goal and away from the danger area.

That is why Pep has signed Lapotre and Ake, while Arteta has signed Gabriel, David Luis and Pablo Mari.

Tactical managers looking for the best "ideal" solution. It is why left footed CB's are highly prized.

It's why Bayern Munich paid €80m for Lucas Hernandez. While they also play Alaba at LCB often if Hernandez isn't available.

While it's perfectly possible to play a right footed player on the left, you statically get better results from playing a left footer.

12.) 23 Oct 2020 13:24:59
The players you list don't exactly pour glory over your argument Shappy. With the exception of Laporte, of course, but the rule of averages says one of them will be good.

Look where it got LVG, he's history and we've ended up with Rojo.

Think where we'd be if had just signed Koulibaly or Varane rather than try to over complicate things.

I can't remember any time in following football where a CB pairing has been successfully because one of the pair is left footed, and that's when wingers were proper wingers. In fact most to the best pairings have both been right footed.

It's a load of old bolloxolgy if you ask me.

13.) 23 Oct 2020 15:54:18
GDS, not convinced he deserves the spot to be honest given how he has been playing. And it's unfortunate that he will walk straight back into the team.

14.) 23 Oct 2020 15:54:52
TRD, I'm still much more convinced by Lindelof than I am Maguire.

15.) 24 Oct 2020 00:52:16
We’ve got a LCB. His name is Rojo. Argentina international. Didn’t work out. Injured a lot. Very rash. To be fair he would have been decent in a back 3 a few years back. Never really tried it.

16.) 24 Oct 2020 02:12:36

He played there for the under 23s tonight who played a 3-4-3 formation. Williams played right wing back and Pellestri also played. A last minute penalty winner in a 2-1 win, impressive performance considering how young this team is.

17.) 24 Oct 2020 08:05:11
Is Rojo even in the Premier league squad?

{Ed047's Note - yes but not the Champions league squad



05 Oct 2020 13:50:52
Anyone know if Mike Smalling can play the piano? Fully expecting him to be unveiled at 7pm tonight in a fog of dry ice "like a new signing" a la stars in their eyes.


1.) 05 Oct 2020 14:29:25
Isn't that the standard line they trott when someone comes back from a long-term injury, it like a new signing, and we still want more for Mike than we just paid for Telles.



19 Aug 2020 16:46:53
Dont know if anyone listened to the Manchester is Red podcast today -I listen via MEN as I live outside UK . Samuel Luckhurst was very pessimistic about signings -he thought maximum of 2 -I don't know how highly he is regarded in UK - Ed W. came in for a bit of stick again for his "one deal at a time" strategy for incomings and out goings - as mentioned today "transfer window is 10 weeks .3 weeks gone already and seems to be all in for Sancho" Brooks at Bournemouth is someone Ole is keen on.


1.) 19 Aug 2020 18:05:07
As per most summer windows a player will suddenly come out of nowhere that we sign when everyone is looking at a different player and then it will be totally forgotten and talked about that we only do one deal at a time. So I’d imagine we might sign 1 or 2 players that haven’t been mentioned as well as a major signing.



08 Oct 2018 17:31:22
Big worry if Dave the Save is now reluctant to sign a new contract as is widely reported - can only think PSG would be viable destination today.


1.) 08 Oct 2018 17:54:35
Real Madrid could still be a serious option. Navas isn't getting any younger and Coutois hasn't been great since the move. They could easily go back in for DDG either on a free or below his true worth when he only has a year left on his contact.

2.) 09 Oct 2018 08:42:24
Why would DDG sign a new contract?
We don't know where we are going.

He will be a huge loss if he leaves. But the way things are, I don't see any top player staying if given a chance to leave!

3.) 09 Oct 2018 09:45:13
Don’t see where DDG goes, Real are ok, Barcelona too, maybe Bayern or PSG but less competitive leagues, anywhere else even if we aren’t on top atm is a backward step.

4.) 09 Oct 2018 10:34:36
If he left who could blame him?
Probably the best keeper in world football for about 6 seasons now and what’s he got to show for it
If he’d got his move to Real Madrid he’d have a couple of CL winners medals in his back pocket . The way things look for us it’s hard to see us seriously challenging for league or CL for a couple of seasons at the very least.

5.) 09 Oct 2018 14:54:01
Juventus have Szczesny in goal. I appreciate he misses Spain, but that screams out at me.

Ultimately he has been a great player for us, not one of our fans should have any hard feelings if he leaves. He signed for a great club, he now plays for a club I barely recognise.

Wouldn't mind a little swapsy with Athletico for Oblak.

6.) 10 Oct 2018 19:41:05
As I understand it the contract is almost done, but he wants a clause that states he won't ever be used as a center back.



04 Aug 2018 20:56:27
Several reports saying TFM going out on loan to Hertha Berlin.


1.) 04 Aug 2018 21:28:55
Would be a shame as would have like to have seen him get more minutes. Especially with Valencia out and Dalot an unknown quantity. Hope this doesn’t mean darmian won’t be moved on. Guess we will have to wait and see how this pans out.

2.) 04 Aug 2018 22:11:30
Surely means a Darmian is staying now. The Italian international could be a revelation in a 3-5-2, or indeed at right back used properly.

{Ed002's Note - No.}

3.) 04 Aug 2018 22:24:11
Intersting Ed. Darmian def leaving then.

Very, very busy time coming up with ins and outs.

4.) 05 Aug 2018 04:08:03
Tfm will benefit from that i hope he plays in his more natural position. Periera looks a better player following n his ex perience should have sent martial on loan last season we could have got back a much more rounded player.

5.) 05 Aug 2018 07:40:55
With darmian likely leaving and dalot and valencia injured i'm guessing we'll have to play tuanzebe lindeloff at right back?

6.) 05 Aug 2018 07:41:40
Darmian will go to Italy so there is still plenty of time to shift him out as the deadline only changed in the prem.

We may use him the first couple of games whilst we wait on Valencia and Dalot and then sell him.

7.) 05 Aug 2018 07:59:40
If a LB is signed, then we may even see Young shifted to the right with Shaw and the new LB on the left. Final few days may be exciting and nerve wrecking. Checking the sites every 15-20 mins.

8.) 05 Aug 2018 09:22:37
We have Valencia and Dalot, Jones, Bailly, Lindelof, new signing, Shaw and Young, enough to cover any formation without Darmian. Presuming Smalling and Rojo leave that is aswell.

9.) 05 Aug 2018 15:39:02
Personally I’d keep Smalling and sell rojo and add Toby. Job done at centre half.

Still think we need a real left back more than a right forward if we are to make another purchase.

If Pogba leaves we will most definitely need to replace him too.




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26 May 2022 08:40:58
Another tabloid source claiming today that Eric Ramsay the set piece coach is set to stay on under ETH -following on from other tabloids reporting the same story earlier this week.

The success of our set pieces -for attacking and defending against is very very easy to measure and by any standard its terrible, just worse than useless so what's he being rewarded for?


1.) 26 May 2022 10:20:11
Bfbw. He is a very well qualified and highly regarded young coach.
I agree his cv to date is not exactly glittering. however he obviously has the smarts and knowledge perhaps eth feels he can get more from him with better direction.
Like some of our players will be improved dramatically with better coaching and direction.
Please be patient. Some folk on here are second guessing decisions eth is making on players and his staff. He knows best so let him get what he wants and needs around him and see how he does if in 6 months we are not improving somewhat then let's ask questions. Some players have not even had a proper professional elite working environment since they joined the club. Nor has Ramsey. Its been a mess for 4 years. Patience maturity and understanding is what eth needs. That plus respect for his decisions.
We don't have to agree but we need to understand he knows his ideas and his plans. He knows what he is doing let him Get on with it. Nobody here has any idea what his plan is so until it transpires there is no point in dwelling on what might or might not happen imo.

2.) 26 May 2022 10:29:29
As crap as we were we conceded the 4th lowest amount from set pieces.

3.) 26 May 2022 11:25:22
Well said ken.

4.) 26 May 2022 12:30:26
Is be being rewarded? If you're boss called you into the office and said you weren't being sacked, would you consider that a reward?

He's under contract and according to those who have worked with him he's done a decent job.

I'm sure EtH will work with him and if he doesn't feel he cuts the mustard will look to replace him.

It's always useful to have a couple of guys around who know what the old regime was like, who knows the players and can work with the new management set up.

5.) 26 May 2022 12:55:19
Who is to say that he had good ideas and worked well in training with the team and that they just did not impliment it in matches. Based on what we have seen from this bunch it would not be the strangest thing.

6.) 26 May 2022 15:47:34
I think the players refused to actually follow instructions whilst on the pitch. We saw this wher ein the first half under RR they played a high pressing football. Second half they just stopped.

Later on they just stopped altogether. The coach and the staff will always take the flack.

The problem is that the club need to back the manager and his coaching team. If players need to be sold to make a point, then so be it.

7.) 26 May 2022 17:57:40
I don't know whether EtH 'knows best' as Ken is fond of saying but I would wager he knows a damn sight more than Ole did!

8.) 26 May 2022 21:53:45
Oakbark. He knows his plan best that's for sure not the guess and hindsight merchants we have on here.



07 May 2022 19:56:21
well Bruno was first to something tonight. the first to say how emabrrassed he is, how poor we played and its not good enough blah blah blah.

Dont go away as i'm sure Varane, Mata, McT will be along soon to spout the same sorry nonsense we've being hearing for 3 years now.

Today is just another new low, end of season can't come quick enough.


1.) 07 May 2022 20:08:49
Forget about another game. Let them pack their bags now and go.



06 May 2022 14:56:26
Good for RR telling it how it is with Lingard - that's what these big babies need - BTW how much time has JL had off for family issues? He asked to skip training for the Chelsea game. again. I do hope RR and ETH have each others backs and the backing of the higher management to hire and fire as they see fit wth no one being bigger than the club or the vibe in the squad.


1.) 06 May 2022 16:48:42
Spot on I always said he wasn’t good enough and it proved to be correct
The problem we have is too many people accepting mediocrity
I can’t actually believe anyone thinks McTominay is actually any good
Another one stealing a living.

2.) 06 May 2022 17:20:07
I think people respect mctominnay because he does his best and doesn't complain about anything, people like players that respect the club and no matter how gifted he is, he plays his heart out every time.

3.) 06 May 2022 18:12:04
Agree with mctominay, not the best but gives it his all. If the others had his attitude United wouldn't be in this current mess. Limited player but great attitude, and respects the club, supporters etc is a very good professional.

4.) 06 May 2022 18:26:47
McTominay is no star but he would arguably be a better player in a team that works as hard as he does. I'd be very surprised if he is not part of EtH's plans.

5.) 06 May 2022 18:47:47
I would expect McT to have a role in the squad, he isn't a star he isn't a key piece but I think that he can have a place in the squad a do a job under Ten Hag.

6.) 06 May 2022 20:05:06
Jesus, just because he tries hard makes no difference if he doesn't have any ability.

The fact is he hides from the ball when we have possession which is the most cowardly thing you can do on a football pitch.

The fact he's managed to deceive so many people into accepting him because he shows Pashun is unbelievable.

{Ed014's Note - every day there is something on here that makes me say wtf!

Some of this thread has done it today!

You’re spot on by the way.

7.) 07 May 2022 06:17:38
Agree for this, he doesn't make angles to receive a pass, Matic too started to do this recently.
McTom is okay as 4th or 5th choice atleast for the next season as we are going to let go of abhuge number of players.
McTom strength is him running with the ball and shooting, think that's his best trait.

8.) 07 May 2022 07:58:38
I’d agree on McT. Good squad player - but ETH plays technical, possession based attacking football. He can’t do that!

9.) 07 May 2022 10:01:24
Would he get on the pitch for city, Liverpool or Madrid?

The answer is no which means he is not good enough for Utd either.

10.) 07 May 2022 10:54:45
In what squad is he a good squad player? What does he add apart from effort? Is he good at protecting the defence? Is he good on the ball? Does he create? Set the tempo? Is he a goal threat?

I think McT is a good gauge of how little effort the players put in. Simply by trying he has elevated himself to a key role despite having very limited talent and ability. I don’t see what he adds to the squad aside from effort and his ability is not the standard of a club looking to compete.

11.) 07 May 2022 11:45:53
We are talking about the player being respected because he works his ass off and still does ok for a player with much less ability than some of the other premadonnas we have, pogba is a highly talented player and he's failed miserably for us. You can be as talented as you want but if you don't work hard you won't successful and the fans won't respect you.



01 May 2022 16:46:59
I had a quick flick through Ajax match report in Dutch media this morning -agan Jurrien Timber gets a very mixed review- first goal he was by penalty spot in an attack and hit the post and team mate scored from rebound. He was caught out upfield a few times. A fan said i liked him better when he was a defender not someone who roams everywhere around losing the ball. intrigued I had a look through fanzines. seems he does get a bit of flak for wanting to be an attacking midfielder when he should be a defender, fans say he has regressed a bit because of it. He is also around 5ft 11, not the strongest in the tackle either but his reading of the game is good and he is fast.
Maybe its the media hype linking us with him but Ruud Gullit said this month he will struggle in the PL.

Ive always liked the big fella Milenkovic but worrying no big club has ever come in for him.


1.) 01 May 2022 18:16:28
Maybe Timber would be a RB for us. He played there a few times this season.

2.) 01 May 2022 18:46:40
When you compare to our CBs I don't think many would be a downgrade.

3.) 01 May 2022 19:20:23
He looks a little gung-ho from what I've seen, can't afford to go flying in and going to ground so much in the Prem. But he's fast and clearly pretty adaptable too so is a bit of a work in progress at the minute.

4.) 01 May 2022 19:32:42
I don't think Timber would pull up any trees in the EPL.

{Ed014's Note - ?‍♂️?

5.) 03 May 2022 11:37:48
Can see Timber as a CDM when needed also.

{Ed014's Note - I guess you actually need to buy him first



28 Apr 2022 20:55:02
Strange reports now thar Ralf could be appointed Austria manager and either leave completely or take the job but also do the United consultancy until 2024.a nice job share - what an odd clube we are if true.


1.) 28 Apr 2022 23:02:57
What do you want him to do with the rest of his time after he fulfills his probably something like 100 hrs consultancy per year.
His coaching and management style maybe more suited to intl football as he has never had any success as a club coach.

2.) 29 Apr 2022 09:04:34
If you get a few shifts at Lidl and can get a few at KFC then that's fine - Any managerial role at one of the worlds largest football clubs whereby its shared with another role in another country hardly smacks of professionalism. He is possibly going upstairs at UTD with his reputation taking a beating,1 or 2 bad results, bad buys, bad decsions within the club in the future will have the fans and media quetioning him if he does the 2 jobs. whether the problems are his fault or not. I can't see anything positive about it at all and again it looks like we just have no plan at all.

3.) 29 Apr 2022 13:49:18
Two years ago we had Woodward as CEO, Judge as chief financial officer and Ole as manager. That was it. The entire footballing enterprise of the club was run by them.

We now have Murtaugh as a Sporting Director, and Fletcher as a Technical Director. As well as Arnold now as CEO and Judge still in his role as master of purse strings.

We have an extra two people working on the footballing side of the club.

Where exactly do they think Ralf Rangnick fits in as a 40 hour a week guy? What would his role look like? What would be his day to day tasks?

He's being hired as a consultant, he is here effectively as a sounding board. He has said as much himself in his interviews. He will give his opioid to whoever wants to hear it.

He might be involved in a few meetings and will be a guy to chat through issues on the phone. At a push he might use his contacts and links to set up meetings or pass on a name of a player to keep an eye on to the scouting department.

At most it's a few hours work a week on average.

While the job of an international manager is hardly the most taxing. Play 10-12 games a year, and international tournament for 3 weeks every couple of years, 30 days of training a year and watching between 270-360 minutes of football a week.




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19 Jun 2022 18:22:34
dont know enough about him, i saw ruud gullit saying he wouldn't cope in the PL as a central defender.




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29 May 2022 14:03:09
one of the tabloids said yesterday he was available to United in 2020 but we were not interested.


{Ed002's Note - The were approaches from two sides last summer and discussions with one - but not MU.}



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26 May 2022 09:35:48
Lindelof is targetted by every robust striker in the PL he is as weak as a kitten-if ETH doesn't see that then the defensive problems will continue.




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26 May 2022 05:21:58
For whatever reasons Tuanzebes chance has gone now. I think Bailly and Jones out is almost certain and there must be a huge question mark over Lindelof- If a bid came in from an Italian or Spanish club where its less physical I can see Lindelof going- never been strong enough, fans are lukewarm about him he just doesn't seem to fit at United.




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24 May 2022 07:33:10
looks a good modern CH with the ball at his feet, but very easily bullied and looks no tougher than Lindelof which is a worry.





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23 Jun 2022 20:39:26
Talksport (i know) on in the car 1 hour ago saying Barcelona have bid 34 mill for Lewondowski today.




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22 Jun 2022 07:24:31
what about the kid Diallo touted as a tricky winger when we put down half of his 35 mill fee?




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19 Jun 2022 10:16:45
Im maybe clutching at straws but the one chink of light is as we ve seen with Chelsea recently is there do seem to be buyers out there -of course no sign of the Glazers selling but I think we are getting closer.

The ground, the trainign facilities and squad investment is going to take a minimum 500 mill . i did say minimum. do the Glazers have the stomach for that seeing as we are unlikely to trouble the top 4 for a few seasoons never mind the PL or CL trophies . I doubt it .

On top of all that if you think the cost of living crisis, fuel etc etc is bad here its just as bad if not worse in USA right now. I still think overall we are a more atractive option to buyers than Chelsea were -taking our commercial power, history, global fanbase etc etc.




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18 Jun 2022 17:07:18
i think we need a player like Bissouma -and i'm disapointed we didn't get him- I hope we have a plan to sign a similar type of player-FRED isn't it - FDJ, Erikson, Neves are some of the names we've been linked to and each of them would a hard working, aggressive ball winner along side them such as Bissouma for them to be effective.




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12 Jun 2022 13:50:27
couple of the more speculative football media outlets are sayign this morning we have made a bid for Neves yesterday -who knows. but I like him he is good at what he does as is FDJ but I maintain our recruitment team should be looking for a Bissouma-Ndidi-Kante (of 3 seasons ago) player if we want to get the best out of a Neves FDJ type of player.