Manchester United Banter 3

11 Jun 2026 18:31:05
Lot of talk on here and elsewhere about Anderson.

Big shoes to compare to but if he was to be as good or very close to Keane then he would be worth every penny of £130m.

More saliently, I think not having a recognised top manager in place hinders Utd at times like this.

With Pep leaving, any potential City signing must have some doubts about signing for them. Imagine if we had a Fergie or Klopp type manager at the helm.

One who commanded respect for their achievements and had charisma too. I bet they would have a significantly better chance of signing Anderson than Carrick does.

I have no idea of how much money Utd really have to spend, but if the war chest allows and Carrick wants him then why not go to Forest "we will pay you the £130m". Sends a big message to the player that we value him and all players want to feel they are wanted.

11 Jun 2026 18:43:31
I think Keane is size 10, fairly average.

11 Jun 2026 18:54:55
Anything above 100M is an overpayment, honestly. Declan Rice was two times more influential when he moved. And, in any case, if we are going to Forest, I would rather we spend on Gibbs-White. Bruno isn't getting any younger, and we have no reliable prospect in that position.

11 Jun 2026 19:02:33
Salford, the player, through his representatives, by all accounts, has told United he doesn't want to go to us.
So what's the point in offering 130m?
I agree totally, if we were in the position they were in with Pep, or when we had Fergie, players wanted to play for them.
I thought Pep leaving might sway things in our favour, but he seems adamant about his choice.


If he has said yes to us, we would pay Forest.
But he doesn't want United, that's the only determining factor.
People can argue all day today if he's worth the money, but nobody will know the answer to that for 3 or 4 years.

11 Jun 2026 20:23:18
For an up-and-coming midfielder, I would have thought being coached by a formerly excellent midfielder such as Carrick would be very attractive.

11 Jun 2026 22:17:28
Danny, luv it.

He may have expressed a preference for City when Pep was there, but now who knows?

Unruly, if it were possible, I would get both Gibbs White and Anderson. Alas, it's not, and I think £120m+ price tag is crazy, but it's the market rate.



That said, there must surely be equally as good players abroad who we could get for a lot less money. I want our scouts to find them.

MancMan, I agree, but being coached by Pep is another level or two.

11 Jun 2026 22:27:44
Salford, I really want Anderson, but I have come around to the probability that we simply aren't in the upper echelon of football currently and therefore cannot be in the market for the top tier players. Last season's window, albeit our best for some time, was not tier 1 players coming through.

We have so many past mistakes, compounded mistakes, to reverse, that we cannot go and spend whatever we want on individuals until those errors have been corrected.



Next season might be the one that we go all out and sprinkle the final pieces onto the puzzle. This season we need volume through the doors.

We are going from 40 games to 60 games a season. That's a big jump for our squad, some of which are made of glass.

12 Jun 2026 07:50:06
Salford,

I agree on the manager, but everyone would know that. I do think wanting to play for someone with the profile of a Pep or SAF has a pull. Did Maresca win the Club World Cup with Chelsea? No matter how anyone frames it, Carrick has very little profile to sell to a player. Players want to win things, and right now who do they think will do that, Maresca or Carrick? I bet most would go with City, because Carrick has shown nothing. Yes, people will jump up and down, but it's obvious. We have to move on with Carrick, that's where we are. In terms of who Carrick wants, is he Head Coach, not Manager? I strongly suspect he will have a say on the positions, but decisions will be made above him, and the financials will be a driver, like it or not.

Again, I believe the Glazers will require the club to show profit so a dividend can be taken. I suspect that would rule out Anderson even if he wanted to come to us, although TW insists he wants City.
I suspect we will shop at a lower level and still have to pay big money. Any road, it's a results business, and what we buy will reflect in next season's results.

It's not just midfield. I was interested to see Hall at Newcastle mentioned. It looks a good move for him and us.
I don't see much about a forward, we only have Sesko, and forwards don't come cheap, not young ones anyway.

We would be more attractive for players with a more respected manager, I agree with you, but the club have to deal with that now they've made their decision.

12 Jun 2026 07:57:57
I wonder if we had any players Forest would be interested in?

For some kind of player-plus-cash deal?

Onana?
Ugarte?
Amad seems quite 'Forest-esque'?
Mount?
Zirkzee?

12 Jun 2026 08:07:16
Downsie,

Persuading any players from United to go to a side in Forrest, who will be battling relegation, even more so when Anderson leaves, would be a huge task.

12 Jun 2026 09:49:54
I think United are done trying to sign players that need to be convinced to move to the club. Love it.

If Anderson wants City, let him on.

12 Jun 2026 10:14:35
Redman, it's not a case of me insisting Anderson wants City. Every single reputable and non-reputable media source is reporting the same.
Stop trying to push a narrative on Anderson that doesn't exist.
He wants City, who knows for what reason.
Who has the better chance of winning the league or CL over the next 2 seasons, United or City?

Who has the better squad?
Personally, I don't see City being as dominant without Pep, but Semenyo did, Anderson does.


I think if Anderson had chosen us we would have bought him. No proof, just what I think. To suggest it's me insisting he wants City is daft. It's reported by everybody, but you believe what you want.

12 Jun 2026 12:39:50
Utd put it out there that Anderson was our priority for most of the season. If his choice of Man City is true, with everything going on there, it shows that our recruiting team have failed to sell our project to Anderson above a Man City project that is as weak as it has ever been. Pep gone, charges imminent, other stars jumping ship.

I am not only concerned about Anderson. I am more concerned that the club allowed these rumors to circulate all season, and then have either walked away because he chose them over us, or because we are not prepared to pay what looks like a pretty obvious market price.



I do think he is a top player, and, with home grown tax, Forest are not being completely unreasonable. I think many prices will be inflated this summer, and we always pay high prices.

Long way to go in the window, time for this management team to go to work and bring in some gems. Fernandes and Scott could be the route we go, both are excellent players, getting the blend that will fit well in the team is the important part.

12 Jun 2026 13:04:57
That's fair DB to an extent.
I'm not sure 120m+ is the market price. Nobody has ever paid it before.
Imo it's too expensive and I really wanted him to come to United. I don't think we are in a position to splash that on 1 largely unproven player.
He has been hyped up to an extent that is ott by the British media.
Imo he has a lot to prove.
Plus he wants to go to City, so that's really the end of it.


We chased Shearer and failed. We chased Ronaldinho and failed. We chased Vvd and failed. The list goes on and on.
We need to move on as a club and as fans, and stop wishing for what might have been. It's pointless.
The king is dead. Long live the new king. Only way to answer is sign someone else and keep improving and moving forward.

12 Jun 2026 13:58:47
It has been a while, folks.

Finally, the club is showing some discipline, and no matter how much we like a player, we do not value him for what they want. City quietly gets away with overpaying for a ton of players year after year. Eventually, it will catch up to them, and it reminds me of ourselves. I don't think it has anything to do with not being able to afford him. By the time it's all said and done, we will spend close to 300 mill imo excluding outgoings, that is, so net spend will be lower.

Same group that clamour about we should spend the money and get him will be the first to criticize the club, owner, manager when they turn out to be a gross overspend.



Him not coming has nothing to do with Carrick imo. He decided a while ago he wants to go to City, and they will pay what Forest wants. We walked away from the Baleba deal last year and look very smart for it now.

Good luck to Anderson at City, and let's focus on getting the West Ham kid in and move on to other targets.

They all get tagged with being generational talents after one great season. A couple of seasons later, people realize most are good players, but far from the early label.

There are so many now floating around between various leagues in Europe who got that tag.

12 Jun 2026 15:26:55
Tw
Perhaps "insists" was too strong a word. You are saying Anderson wants City, so fair enough.

Interesting you mentioned Ronaldinho, he didn't choose someone else. Kenyon messed up when it was all lined up.

12 Jun 2026 15:32:06
Fergie messed up with Gazza... Should he have resigned?

12 Jun 2026 15:58:50
JSU

Did SAF mess up Gazza or was Gazza just not right in the head.
My prior point on another thread was about Wilcox, and Berrada must get decisions right, that's what they are paid big money for.

12 Jun 2026 18:24:43
I would just like our management team to go get who we think will put us back to the top. We have an opening for a first team midfielder, and that will cost money. We have Mainoo, who is likely a mainstay, so we need the missing piece to get the most from him.



If that person was Fernandes all along then all is good with the world. Go pay what we need to pay and get him. I just don't want us to become cheap in the market for a key piece that we absolutely need. We need to win. The management team needs to deliver a winning team.

11 Jun 2026 16:40:14
I read an interesting piece today that suggests that Ederson could play a role at rb this summer for Brazil.
Potentially an interesting option for us there going forward. It might give us another option at rb too.

11 Jun 2026 18:59:36
He has been called up by Brazil due to the withdrawal, through injury, of Wesley.

He was due to play as their first-choice right-back.

I suspect a bit of adding 2+2 and getting 5.

I have to say, I was a bit surprised they called up a midfielder to replace a first-choice defender.

Brazilian way of doing things, I suppose.

11 Jun 2026 20:01:48
He has been playing right back in training, and Ancelotti spoke about it at his press conference. He said that he has strong options there, with Danilo and now Ederson, who has surprised him there. I'm not suggesting he will be our rb, I just thought it interesting that he could be an option there.

11 Jun 2026 20:19:17
O.K. Fair enough, Ken. Did not see that.

He is known for his running power and ball winning, so could well make sense to give him a go there.

Would be one huge bonus if he did turn out to be a good option there, turning a good bargain into an outstanding one.

11 Jun 2026 22:32:34
I always thought our 2007/08 side was our best - better than the treble side. A big reason for that was how balanced we were with Hargreaves at right back. He often moved in field but gave width when needed. It was such a pity he couldn't stay fit. If Ederson can perform that role I'd be thrilled.

11 Jun 2026 03:25:26
The sexual tension between Tumbleweed and Monkey_Balls is becoming impossible to ignore; neither of you ever agree with the other. Just buy each other a pint and save the rest of us the weekly episode. 😆

11 Jun 2026 08:06:57
Monkey is to Ken what Maze was to Shappy. Interesting Jsu hasn't posted for a while.

11 Jun 2026 08:48:48
Nah, Monkey has been around a while, Gds.

11 Jun 2026 10:08:39
Well, Monkey is definitely agitating more lately. Needs to cool the jets.

11 Jun 2026 13:30:21
I don't think he is tbf, Don.
He just took exception to me putting a quote I read from Eriksen and his doctor saying he is 'fine' and that I hope our players don't get injured in the World Cup.
Apparently he has lost respect for me. 🤣
I'm happy enough to say he is 'fine' and I'm sure at his age he will see me down despite his condition, which is not at all uncommon.


I'm not holding any vigils or lighting candles for him just yet.
He has never been declared dead despite Mb's insistence that he has died twice. It's bizarre.

11 Jun 2026 13:49:37
But doesn't the whole, "I've lost respect for you," thing heighten the sexual tension?

11 Jun 2026 14:00:35
The block function works wonders in filtering out the usual aggregators who like to throw a grenade into the room and walk out again. :D

11 Jun 2026 14:19:12
Well I'm certainly sexually tense.

11 Jun 2026 14:40:15
Danny. 😂😂😂

11 Jun 2026 15:12:29
Not sure Danny. You know what's is like when your break up from someone. i'm hoping in time we can be civil again i don't want things to be awkward if we bump into each other socially, i'd like to think we could but when the respect is gone its hard to win back.


Still that's are another 7 billion fish in the sea he will find the one. They will probably be mute deaf and blind but I still have hope he can find his one. 🤣
@AJH at your age that's not sexual tension its probably just wind🤣

11 Jun 2026 17:15:10
It could be the monkey balls I had for lunch.

11 Jun 2026 18:46:42
Oh, he's back. No idea what he's saying though, the block function works wonders.

11 Jun 2026 19:04:19
You don't want to be eating them, Ajh. Not midday anyway. 🤣

11 Jun 2026 19:27:09
Gds2 I don't get the block thing I have to say.
You can choose not to engage but its an area of free speech within reason guided and monitored by the eds. I certainly don't like his constant negative tone and rhetoric but it appears that English isn't his first language so a bit of tolerance is fair imo.
He can often argue or discuss a point well imo but like all posters on here has opinions that fly in the face of logic at times.
I have my 'iks' and blind spots so does ajh & redman for example along with every other and are most are happy to admit that.


So much stuff written on here in one tone but read and perceived in a completely different one. People take the hump too easily.
I enjoy debating and arguing points on here and challenging others opinions. Its a hobby away from other stressful stuff and is stress free.
Some people don't like being challenged or being presented with challenges that contradict their view i find that enjoyable and relaxing and 5 mins on here several times a day allows me to swith my focus off my last task before I start my next one.

11 Jun 2026 22:20:10
It does indeed, GDS. I have applied it now to 4 accounts, and the site is much clearer. In fact, there is almost nothing to respond to.
I'm well aware my account may be blocked by lots too, so this might not even see the light of day!

12 Jun 2026 03:30:19
Who said that?

12 Jun 2026 07:45:39
The man living in the echo chamber keefy🤣🤣

12 Jun 2026 10:21:02
JimBob, assuming you can see this, who have you blocked?

12 Jun 2026 10:32:18
Is that a cunning ploy to deduce whether you have been? :D

12 Jun 2026 11:21:24
Any consensus agreed going forward will be even more flawed if you don't include the blocked. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

12 Jun 2026 15:10:23
Well he hasn't replied to me, Spenno, so I guess I may be blocked!

12 Jun 2026 16:37:06
I doubt it, AJH. But if so, wear it as a badge of honour. 🤣

12 Jun 2026 22:40:48
This is far down the page now. I've blocked him because I disagreed with everything he said, Ken, and was wasting my time arguing. I love a debate, but when someone doesn't listen and just says things they don't even believe to get a reaction, that isn't a debate for me. It's trolling, so I don't want to read his posts.

10 Jun 2026 22:14:16.
If the rumours are true and Forest want £120m for Anderson then we should avoid at all costs. Sounds like City have distanced themselves from him today.

He’s not a £100m + player. Good but not worth that.

10 Jun 2026 23:07:00
If I was in charge, I wouldn't sanction it. That's for sure.

10 Jun 2026 23:16:53
Has a whiff of the Morgan Gibbs-White saga from last summer. Marinakis is no shrinking violet, that's for sure.

10 Jun 2026 23:44:59
Very widely reported that City offered £106m fixed and £15m in extras and that has been, staggeringly, turned down by Forest. Seemingly they want a higher amount guaranteed.

I did recently say that last summer's record bids for players will be this summer's normal. Can well see City going back and offering £110m fixed and £10m extras. Don't see them distancing themselves at all, 2toms.

It will, of course, set the benchmarks for the rest of the summer.

Totally agree, it is too much for him.

West Ham will be licking their lips, as it will certainly affect what they will demand for Fernandes. Any talk of £50-£60m may well prove insufficient.

Does put £26m for Rashford into perspective. Barca want to discuss the fee? Fine, tell them it's now £30m.

11 Jun 2026 01:15:46
He is an elite player. 125 million is a lot of money, but Elliot is a one-of-a-kind player, and, at the right age, if he wanted to come to Old Trafford, I would seriously think about paying that kind of money.

11 Jun 2026 00:41:21
If you were in charge no one else's opinion would matter. Fact.

Thank F you are not.

11 Jun 2026 02:17:46
Just gonna throw this out there.....

What would people think of the following?

6: Ederson, with Baleba as cover.
8: Mainoo, with Stiller as cover.
10: Fernandes (Bruno), with Fernandes (Mateus) as cover.

200m outlay. Job done.

Would you take that collective forward into next season?

Allows us to prioritise, say, Hall, Truffert, Brown at LB, and anywhere else then.

11 Jun 2026 07:36:40
Suspect United have pushed interest in Anderson to ensure City have to pay what Forrest wants. I see some people say it's too much to pay for him, whilst previously, likely, some would say it's not our money.
Question is whether Anderson is THE player that makes the difference. Rice was similar for Arsenal, that went well, and now City have decided it's Anderson. What's a player worth? Well, it depends what he brings to the team and club.


If City pay £110m, and then, with Anderson driving them on, win the league for the next two years, is that £110m worth it? What if they add a Champions League in?

Meanwhile we will be clapping Ratcliffe for keeping our spending low, glorifying finishing 3rd again, whilst ensuring the Glazers get their dividends, their perfect world.

11 Jun 2026 08:51:56
It's always a risk. Kane was a no brainer at £100M, Rice was a risk at £100M but it seemed a small one. Anderson would be a bigger risk. He could go on to be a generational talent, or he may struggle to take that next step.

11 Jun 2026 10:02:37
AJH,

Agree, but that is what clubs pay good money to people like Wilcox and Berrada to make decisions on. If they get these things wrong, and City go on to win the league and Champions League with Anderson at the centre of it, then Wilcox and Berrada need to resign. They are paid big money to get the big decisions right.

11 Jun 2026 10:17:02
Rough numbers, but since Rice went to Arsenal (for around £100m), we signed Ugarte and Mount to play midfield at a cost of around £110m.

Penny wise, pound foolish springs to mind here. Arsenal, for all intents and purposes, are going to get a decade of high level (Champions League and Premier League) performances from Rice. Meanwhile, we are flogging Ugarte around Europe, begging someone to sign him, and Mount is useless.



The same would apply with Anderson as well. Fair enough if we actually can not bid that high financially because of regulations or we dont actually have the cash, but if its a "perceived value" thing, then think we are making the same mistake again.

11 Jun 2026 10:24:30
Would rather we spent £100m on the right player than £50m on the wrong one. We don't need another Ugarte.

If the club believes that Anderson is the right player, and the player wants to join use, we should do what we can to make it happen. As Ed002 always used to say, it's not our money. And it's not like there are any guarantees that money saved on a CM signing will be reinvested elsewhere.

11 Jun 2026 12:02:03
I'm not talking about saving pennies, I'm referring to our position in the pecking order.
Anderson wants City.
Tonali I see at Arsenal.
Tchoumani ain't leaving Real Madrid.

11 Jun 2026 12:04:05
He wants to go to City, simple as that. We are not a factor, even if we pay the price.
Anderson has, apparently through his agent, told United that City is his preference.
United have not refused to pay. The player wants to go to City.


It's not complicated, the player has made his choice.
I hope City don't cave in. 120m is madness for a largely unproven cm player, umo.
I think he is a very good player. I would like him to have signed for United, but he didn't want to.

11 Jun 2026 12:27:12
Red man, that's so bizarre to say that they need to resign if they don't sign Elliot Anderson, who may or may not go on to be a generational talent.

We have missed out on fantastic talents during our history, and I would never have asked for them to resign because of that.

We are not in a position to go to 120M for players. The budget we have. We need to go out and recruit 5/6 players.

Spending a vast majority on a player like Anderson, no matter how incredible, is just not sustainable for us at this point. Berrada, Wilcox, Vivell are no idiots, and know how good Anderson is, but to say they need to resign if we don't sign them is so bizarre.

They did great last window, they're quietly going about their business again, and I have no doubt they will make us stronger again for next season.

11 Jun 2026 12:51:35
Totally disagree. We need to replace Casemiro in midfield, and we were very light in midfield already.

We absolutely have to spend the money to get the best player that will take us to the top. If we get option 456, then we will be limiting how far we can go.

There is talk of City getting Anderson and Tonali!

Ugarte has not worked. It happens, but the club have recruited badly.

Mount has not worked. Poor fitness, that we must have known and rolled the dice on. Poor error by the club.



They chose and backed Amorim and spent a lot of last year's budget on Cunha and Mbeumo. Now they change tack and Cunha looks lost on the left.

Our main CM is a critical position, and we need to find the right player to lead the team in the most important part of the pitch. It will not be wasted money, which we seem happy to do most summers.

We can't start applauding this management team for spending less and charging fans more. They need to deliver a winning team on the pitch. Winning brings money.

11 Jun 2026 12:58:30
If he wanted to come to us, maybe we consider the 120m (assume he has the same or higher ceiling as Rice), but he doesn't, so it's good that we are stepping back. We are also messaging the right things - only want players who want us, and will not overpay.



Personally, if the midfield ends up being Ederson, M Fernandes and Scott, as is being widely reported, I'd be quite happy.

If we get some luck with outgoings, we might be able to strengthen more effectively than I had earlier thought at fullback and forward as well.

11 Jun 2026 13:58:45
I think we're being linked to some fantastic players overall - the only one I would be disappointed with is Baleba, who I think has been distinctly average this season after a last season's excellent season.
The likes of Anderson, Fernandes, Scott, Tonali, Stiller and Ederson have all had impressive campaigns. It looks like we can rule out Anderson and Tchouamini, as I don't think we'll stump up what City seem prepared to, and I'm always dubious of a player in their prime wanting to leave Real...

It very rarely happens.
Saying that, I think a trio of Ederson, Baleba and Scott, for example, might be seen as underwhelming, as it doesn't seem like a genuine worldy is in there to take us forward.

11 Jun 2026 14:12:40
angel

Your English comprehension isn't very good. I didn't say Wilcox and Berrada must resign "if they don't sign Elliot Anderson", I said if he goes on to take City to win the league and EC meaning they got their decision wrong on whether he is as good as City think then they should resign for making a poor decision. We pay them a lot of money to get it right and if City secure their midfield for years to come whilst we sit tight so we can pay dividends then yes they have to go. Big decision.

11 Jun 2026 15:53:02
Redman, it's not United's decision to make.
The player doesn't want to come to United. It's out of United's hands.
When you pick a stick to beat someone, you have to make sure it's the right stick.
You can't blame Wilcox or Bareda if the player doesn't want to join, that's ridiculous.
Anderson has made his choice, that's not down to United or any employee, it's down to Elliott Anderson, nobody else.
If City sign Anderson and don't win the league and CL, should their chair and dof resign because they made the wrong decision? Simple answer is no, because there are about a million other deciding factors on how a league or Cup is won or lost, it's not shown to the signing of one player.


How long is Rice at Arsenal? By your reckoning, Arteta and dof and chair should be long gone, they didn't win the league for seasons after Rice signed and still have not won a CL.
Totally ridiculous, you are being on this one.
It's your blind spot, and bias is taking over again.

11 Jun 2026 16:49:46
Talking in riddles, you are there, Red Man... But either way, he could go on to be a world beater, or he could flop. He may want City, not United. We may have the money, we may not, but to state anyone should resign is utter poppycock, whatever the outcome...

On your logic, Fergie should have resigned for not signing Gazza on the day and letting him go on holiday first... It's life and hindsight.

11 Jun 2026 17:10:11
TW.

If Anderson wants City and that is the reason he goes there, then fair enough. I do not, however, want them to make the decision based on ensuring there is profit to pay dividends. That simple.

JSU.
The reference for SAF is not Gazza, but when he was saying no value in the market, and players like Aguero went elsewhere. If the player chooses elsewhere, then so be it, but do we all now trust it is that and not the penny pinching owners?

If Anderson chooses City, then fine, there would probably be a sigh of relief from those signing a cheque.

Let's see what happens and what it means to how we perform. We didn't sign Shearer and still won, however, what would we and he won if he signed for us. We will never know for sure but hell it could have been spectacular.

11 Jun 2026 19:50:56
Redman, I understand the point you are making. I think we all know your feelings towards the owners.
But you have to own a ridiculous statement like the one you have made above.
There would be no reason for them to resign if Anderson is a success elsewhere. It's a ridiculous statement.
We've all made them.
There is no defending that one. 🤣🤣
They know how good he is; they have been chasing him for a year. It's not about the price, it's about the player's preference, first and foremost.


Fernandes has very similar stats in many of the key measurable areas the experts look at. He has impressed me as much as Anderson when I've seen them. He is 2 years younger, and some experts feel he has a higher ceiling. He wants to join United by all accounts.
I would much rather sign Fernandes / Tonali and a top left back for a combined 130m than a player who had to come here against his preference because we offered more for him. We had that with Di Maria.

12 Jun 2026 07:35:48
Tw.

If he only wants City, like I said, fair enough. We have let it get to the point where players would choose City, even with no Pep and 115 other concerns, over our club, and that is down to the owners' decisions over many years.

If Anderson sorts out City's midfield and they carry on winning, then it will happen again on the next big transfer. Not a good prospect.

12 Jun 2026 09:53:30
The comprehension is fine, RM. It's just bizarre to say that they must resign if he goes on to be successful. 😂 But bizarre things to say are your forte, so crack on.

13 Jun 2026 06:18:12
Angel

Why would it be bizarre to expect someone paid a large amount of money to make big decisions to resign if they get a decision badly wrong?

10 Jun 2026 12:39:41
A question or two for those of you who have watched Ederson play.

Where would you consider his best position and how do you rate him?

I've not seen him play but at £38m, seems a little cheap to me, is he a bargain or a squad player?

Sorry that's three questions!

10 Jun 2026 15:36:48
Have seen him play quite a few times, think he is an excellent player. A couple of years ago Atalanta went to Anfield in C.L. and won 3-0. He was outstanding, and they could easily have scored more.

2 summers ago I posted on here that I would like to see him signed along with Joao Neves and Antonia Silva. Silva has not really progressed as expected, but the other 2 certainly have.

Firstly, as to the fee, his contract only has a year left, and he has said he will not sign a new one. Atalanta were prepared to sell at a lower fee rather than see him go for free next summer.

Indeed, originally it was expected he would go to Atletico Madrid, who had agreed personal terms with him, but would not pay the fee Atalanta were asking. That is when we stepped in and agreed terms. It has been widely reported that a number of other clubs made contact with his camp, but he made it known he would not speak to anybody else, as he said he wanted to play for Utd.



My own view is that we have got an excellent bargain.

As to his style, many feel he is perfectly suited to the P.L., as he possesses great physicality and strength. He is a good ball winner with stamina, has the power to carry the ball forward, and has decent pace and pretty good passing skills. Whilst he can play box to box, he is probably better suited to being a No 6.

Hope that helps a bit, Jrred. As I said, I think this is an excellent start to the transfer window, but not only him; we need a box to box player as well. I have said a few times I hope it's Fernandes from West Ham. If we get those two (and I think we will also get a third) alongside Bruno and Kobbie, it should give us a midfield that can go up against anybody.

Just hope, having said the foregoing, that he delivers the goods. Of course, nothing is guaranteed with transfers, but I have to say I am optimistic. We shall soon be seeing!

10 Jun 2026 17:29:25
Jrred, not seen any of him this season, tbh. I had watched him a bit before that.
He is a really good player, imo. Very good tekkers, strong in the tackle.
It's the usual issue of can he make the transition to the EPL? It's like a totally different game, I think it will suit him, but I tend to look on the positive side, but it's guesswork.

10 Jun 2026 11:40:01
So Barcelona apparently end their interest in Rashford. Highly doubt that. Think they’re playing a game and will come back with a loan offer later in the summer. Wonder how this will affect Rashford's ego?! Loves Barca, enjoyed his time and they drop him….

Hoping the Bayern story has some legs cause he can’t be here next year. Best for all parties that he gets a permanent move away.

10 Jun 2026 13:01:28
Unfortunately for him, his defensive qualities are extremely limited and he's shown himself to have no desire or ability to improve that aspect of his game. It makes him largely unsuitable for the intense hustle and bustle of the EPL. His past actions and his over-familiarity with Carrick and United make his return to OT extremely undesirable unless there's a serious transmogrification of his attitude and approach. That said, he's a good potential luxury impact player when a normally dominant team needs more attacking options.

He'll end up somewhere, but we may not get what we want for him.

So, along with Rashford, there are Onana, Ugarte, and Zirkzee, who all need to find new homes. None of them will be easy to place without taking a bit of a hit to the bottom line. My guess is Mount stays as a squad player. One can only hope that once this batch of poor business by the old regime is cleared up, the club's considerable revenue resources will be applied to getting us and keeping us where we belong, fighting for 4 trophies every year.

10 Jun 2026 15:28:33
We don't want Rashford, and he doesn't want to be here, so he will move somewhere, and we will get what we get. Same for the others. Damage limitation, I think.

Losing the salaries also helps. Cas and Sancho give us about £30M a year in salary savings.

10 Jun 2026 15:45:58
We weren't paying Sancho anyway, so no saving from last year. We'll save c.£45m a year on his and Casemiro's amortization and Casemiro's wages. I'm sure we will be able to at least loan Rashford out, so we won't re-incur the cost of his wages. Any sale on top of that is all profit. Agreed. It's damage limitation on all the others at this point.

10 Jun 2026 15:51:31
Sancho is such a waste of a footballer... Attitude stinks!!

10 Jun 2026 20:21:07
The purge of the crap we have on our books needs to continue. I hope, beyond hope, Mount is added to the list above. He is the epitome of the old regime. I think if an opportunity arises for other players (CB, for instance), we will also see one of the older guys moved on (Martinez or Maguire - no one is buying MdL while recovering from back surgery).

12 Jun 2026 15:03:09
Only CBs I would keep are Heaven and Maguire. If any offers come in for any of the others, I would get rid, for different reasons.
Yoro, I just don't see him suited to EPL.
Martinez is just not good enough as an EPL CB.
de Ligt is a waste of time, never fit.



In reality, any offers coming in for any one of them, I really doubt it, no chance from big clubs and they ain't wanting to go down to the level they should be at, so stuck with them I'm afraid.

We need an experienced, strong CB with pace. We don't have that at United.

08 Jun 2026 19:19:38
From a United point of view Ederson going to the WC is not ideal. I don't expect he will play too much but it would have been nice to have him for the full pre season.
The other 2 we have been mainly liked with are not going to the WC in Fernandes and Tonali.


England Brazil and Portugal will go deep into the tournament and we have players in those squads best we can hope for is they all get through without injury.

09 Jun 2026 00:00:52
On the other hand, the confidence it could give him might push him onto another level. I hope so, at any rate.

09 Jun 2026 01:02:07
Lost total respect for you, Ken.

You stated that a soul that dropped dead for the second time on a football pitch, is fine. Brushing it off as insignificance.

You then moan about someone playing for their country may pick up an injury and will cause problems for your team for a.little while.

I am happy I only know of you from this site

09 Jun 2026 06:32:00
Fantastic monkey balls i couldn't give a monkeys what you think.
Just for the record ericksen never dropped dead on a football pitch to the best of my knowledge never mind twice what a ridiculous statement. The quote from him and his doctor was 'he /im fine the pacemaker did its job.
As for players potentially getting injured, i hope they dont, like i said in my post.
Its not ideal for united that ederson was called up. You must have no respect for sir alex Ferguson who talked players out of traveling to intl games and asked them to limit their minutes wherever possible.

Or pep or klopp. I couldn't give a monkeys balls how their national teams do in the wc. I just hope none of them get injured. i'd rather they were all at home having a nice rest and holiday and getting ready for the team i do give a monkeys ball about.
Ive zero respect for you for claiming the death then resurrection then 2nd death of a footballer who never died and is in good shape due to the mecicle device doing its job. Stop claiming people have died twice its ridiculas disrespectful and untrue, so the feeling its mutual. 🤣🤣🤣

09 Jun 2026 06:36:28
Possibly Don. As long as he stays fit, that's the main thing. He probably won't get a lot of mins, but I'm sure he's delighted.

09 Jun 2026 08:58:47
I'm glad he was called up. In fact, I was more concerned that he wasn't; did that signify his lack of overall quality? Like, why has Fernandes not made the Portugal squad?

Anyway - he's not actually our player yet, officially, so let's see.

09 Jun 2026 09:07:13
Deliberately signed out and deleted my credentials to have a break from this place. Checked back in.
Nice to see nothing changes..

09 Jun 2026 11:39:00
🎶 And now you're back, from outer space. 🎶

09 Jun 2026 12:26:09
🎵 Only to find that Ken is still wearing Jamie Carragher's face. 🎵

09 Jun 2026 14:37:11
Eric, I think it's a pretty tough midfield to get into. 2 lads from PSG, Silva from City, Bruno from United.

09 Jun 2026 17:14:51
Very good Danny. 🤣🤣

09 Jun 2026 22:49:02
He was technically dead in 2021, but thankfully Boesen managed to revive Eriksen. The same thing happened to Eriksen a few days ago, and the ICD did the reviving part that Boesen was previously credited for.

The fact someone is still alive after these events is an absolute miracle, but I can assure you that they are far from fine.



But, knowing this isn't your opinion based on 'the best of your knowledge', it is obviously clearly wrong.

10 Jun 2026 00:20:52
He won't be running any marathons any time soon, that's for sure.
He said he was looking forward to going on holiday and spending time playing some football with his kids.
He has a condition that he will have to watch. I'd imagine his career is over in terms of playing professionally. He's had a good run at it and achieved plenty.

'He's fine' suggests he is not hospitalised, not in any danger, he is home and off on his holidays next week. He has had a second fright, so he needs to listen to the best advice, im sure he has been planning his life after football for the last couple of years, he may have to accelerate those plans a year or 2 earlier than he hoped.

10 Jun 2026 01:10:26
A well thought out response.

For the little it means to you, a slice of pie has been eaten and some respect has been earnt back.

10 Jun 2026 08:43:13
I don't need it, or I don't want your respect, it's unimportant and irrelevant to me. You've not gained any of mine, which is again equally unimportant to me, and it would be to you. A stage on the Internet, I don't need anything from you. My response has not changed. I've added context for the super sensitive who are too quick to get a bee in their bonnet.


Just so you know, he was not technically dead and was never once declared dead. Have a bit of respect for poor Christian's family; going around peddling stories of death is not respectful to them or him in any way.
You can have a cardiac arrest without being technically dead. Good job at the 1st incident by the medical team, they never once did declare him dead.

10 Jun 2026 11:15:48
🎵 Can you feel the love tonight. 🎵

10 Jun 2026 10:45:42
Respect instantly retracted.

Surprised you can speak or see with your head so far up your own.

10 Jun 2026 17:30:16
Great I feel better now.

10 Jun 2026 18:20:58
And just to set you straight, even Eriksen talked about remembering everything "except those minutes when I was in heaven". So, unless the man was Enoch in a previous life, he had to be dead for those minutes. Anyhow, at least we all now know the reasoning behind the name, Tumbleweed.

10 Jun 2026 18:48:25
Did he say if he got the chance to have a cup of tea with Elvis?

10 Jun 2026 19:17:40
No, but he did mention seeing your wit, though. That clearly died a very long time ago!

10 Jun 2026 21:22:16
Lol what is this thread. 😂

10 Jun 2026 21:59:59
🤣🤣 Unruly, the thread is dead. But it might come back to life a couple of times.

10 Jun 2026 22:02:11
No idea, Unruly. 🍿

08 Jun 2026 09:52:18
Patrick Dorgu continues to look like he will be one of our attacking wingers next year whilst offering cover at full back if needed. Improving his output and skill levels, physically strong, quick, and could provide a different option to Cunha.

Comparisons with Bale are way too early (and possibly far-fetched) but he is on the similar progression.



Not sure if this takes away the need for further attacking signings, but I would prefer we bring in our preferred left back signing first and potentially back up striker.

08 Jun 2026 14:12:20
Who is comparing Patrick Dorgu with Gareth Bale lol?

08 Jun 2026 15:08:38
Excellent goal v Ukraine, coming in from the right. Certainly looks like he could become extremely valuable both as a player and as a financial asset.

08 Jun 2026 17:21:31
What I really like about him is that he plays like an old school winger. Full backs are so used to players cutting inside that they don't know what to do when a player goes down the line. I think he adds a different dimension to our attack, and with a proper striker like Sesko in the box we need to get more crosses in.

09 Jun 2026 09:00:02
He's had a handful of games used further forward, but had looked superb in every match since they decided to do so, and scored some excellent and important goals. Very promising signs for Dorgu.

09 Jun 2026 17:20:54
He is a weapon and a reason why we don't need a LW this summer, unless Cunha is being moved inside to compete with Bruno or up top with Sesko, then sure, get a LW. However, I have said many times, midfield and defence are more of a priority than our attack.

09 Jun 2026 18:00:59
Assuming Zirkzee leaves, signing a striker to support Sesko is really a top priority. We can't go into next season with Sesko as our only cf option. Midfield, 2 for sure, ideally 3 needed, imo.
We need better fbs on both sides, and ideally a new cb with pace. We have the numbers in those areas, but are short on quality.


A no2 keeper is needed, assuming we can sell Vietek.
Keeper should be cheap, I've heard Johnston mentioned.
Striker, not sure who is linked. I'd love Lewy, but it's financially difficult and I'm not sure he wants the challenge, and if his body is up to it, although he looks as fit as a butcher's dog.

09 Jun 2026 19:30:13
Dorgu seems to cause chaos, which I like. He can look clumsy, and then suddenly does something amazing. I would love to see him play more often further forward.

09 Jun 2026 20:49:24
There is a lot of running required, but he is unpredictable. Seems to be a good lad, and worked hard. I'm sure he will develop next season. How much he improves is anyone's guess. Could be a dark horse next season and flourish.

At the beginning of last season, I tipped him to be our young player of the season. He didn't quite hit the heights I'd hoped, but there is something I like about him, and I hope he kicks on again.

09 Jun 2026 23:27:35
Hard to know his level. He seems a real confidence player. Both Dorgu and Amad have produced a few brilliant performances in the last 18 months, but also have gone through spells where they've been totally off the boil. But I think it's worth giving them both more time, and worry more about striker reinforcements this summer than other forward positions.

10 Jun 2026 07:35:14
Yep. We are absolutely fine for wingers.

Mbeumo, Amad and Lacey for RW.

Cunha and Dorgu for LW.

After Ederson, it's two more central midfielders, a left-back, a proper centre-forward and a back-up goalkeeper that are required this summer.

Fernandes, Scott, a random LB, Welbeck and Johnstone would be my guess as to most likely.

Then, next year, is where the new defence comes in, imo. Can see Martinez, Mazraoui, de Ligt and maybe even Yoro leaving then.

10 Jun 2026 20:26:29
I think we'll see us focus our purchases on where we need them and dip into the youth setup to top up.
As you have shown, Downsize, we are stocked on the wings.
I feel we have enough up top, and ones coming through, to leave the striker position alone.


Vitek for the second keeper (I know he says he wants to play first team, but I think if offered the chance he will perhaps fight it out).
I think we are overlooking how bad our defence as a whole is. It needs some serious investment.

08 Jun 2026 07:39:01
{Ed's Note - Davey Sulls has posted a new article entitled, Iraola Expectations and Liverpool Squad Priorities

07 Jun 2026 20:15:08
Oh dear, Denmark were playing Ukraine in a friendly match today and it was cancelled after 65 mins of play.

Christian Eriksen collapsed, causing a medical emergency. Players were in tears as he was receiving treatment. Obviously, this would bring back memories of 5 years ago at Euro 2020 when he suffered his cardiac incident.



Happily, he is conscious and doing O.K. If this is cardiac related, maybe the time has come to say no more playing for me.

I wish him well.

07 Jun 2026 21:10:05
Just saw that. Thoughts with him and his family. Always came over as a very likeable guy.

07 Jun 2026 21:59:58
He's fine, pacemaker did its job.

08 Jun 2026 10:12:35
It is time for him to retire. Fortunately he appears to be ok.

09 Jun 2026 23:32:56
I expect that'll be the case even though the pacemaker did its job. Denmark aren't playing in the WC, so he's got a couple of months now to make up his mind. He's had a full career, so if he does retire he can do so without regrets.