01 Nov 2023 22:17:48
When's the next international break? Eth might be lucky to make it at this rate. Worse start since 1962/ 63. Shocking by all involved, whether you blame eth or not, the writing appears to be on the wall for his tenure at the club.
01 Nov 2023 22:51:32
I really hoped it would be players out . Martial, sancho, the same old names we all know before the manager - but i'm increasingly sure it will be ETH that will go and to be honest I think he has not done himself any favours with team selection, tactics and loyalty to underperforming players week after week and he will pay the price as I can't see SJR wanting to be starting off (if he ever does) with a manager seemingly on the slide. a shiny new one and a new DOF is a much better look and a lot better PR. for SJR unveiling.
01 Nov 2023 22:53:55
I'd call in all the agents of the players, get them all in a room together with their clients then just say to the lot of them to find their clients a new club, tell the players to pack their lockers and f**k off.
The shock value might be the wake up call these players need.
The performances have largely been the same for Jose, Ole, Ralf and now Erik. They play average football with no distinct style of football, rely on individuals, then fold like a pack of cards the moment they have anything close to a challenge. They blame the training, the rain, the kits, etc. They have all the resilience of a wet paper towel.
They aren't talented enough, they don't work hard enough and they are weak mentally. It doesn't matter who the manager is, they can't make them into talented, hard working and mentally tough players.
The same thing will happen. EtH will be sacked because its easier than the club admitting they have ballsed up for a decade. They'll hire a new manager, performances will lift for a while, then the players will be challenged and they will buckle again and throw another manager under the bus. Rinse and repeat.
I'd tear up the players contracts on grounds of trade description. I'm pretty sure those contracts state we are getting football players. I don't see any footballers.
01 Nov 2023 22:55:23
What money are they paying him off with then?
01 Nov 2023 22:56:18
He’s gone mate surely? . Not sure I agree with it when it does happen, as what else do we do/ who do we choose next? It’s a hopeless situation until the ownership is sorted.
01 Nov 2023 23:58:10
Totally Eric, I’m not sure what the best course of action is but in cases like this it’s usually the manager who bites the bullet. Bringing in a new manager won’t make a huge difference, maybe short term it will but then we will be here again with them. Huge restructure and squad overhaul is needed and a clear plan would be nice. We’ve spent a fortune over the years but it’s plain to see we’ve wasted most of it.
02 Nov 2023 01:00:41
We've wasted all of it Tim. I'd much rather a squad of players that work hard and show they want to win then one of the most highly paid, highly assembled teams ever.
Whatever positives Ten Hag has as a manager, his recruitment doesn't seem to be his strong suit. Look at Liverpool for example. Klopp wanted Brandt, he got Salah, he wanted Werner, he got Firminho etc. Sometimes you need someone else at the club who can challenge you on certain things.
A tweak to the backroom staff or something to that effect maybe the difference. The team is shot but its not exactly surprising. The ones that have been here for multiple managers have all thrown the toys out of the pram. It's safe to say some of them are simply mediocre premier league players who are highly paid.
I'd still stick with the manager but that won't happen if the results stay the same. Murmurs of Rathcliffe wanting to replace him if he gets in, we could be back at square one some enough.
02 Nov 2023 05:40:22
We wanted a change and people getting rested/ dropped and we got it. It did not work and even With Bruno, rash, Hoiland coming on it was no better.
We have so many individua errors in the squad that I am am not sure how you remedy it. You can't teach people not to switch off and just follow some principles. We don't seem to have it in us to come back once we go behind.
I don't see a point of change in manager as the players seems to the constant denominator whoever comes in.
Andy Cole who was on sky for the game did not hide from how on earth a player like Martial is still at the club. I am not going to go after his character or lack of trying but he is just not good enough anymore and not what he was years ago. Same goes for Lindelof and Maguire, that pairing is so poor and its the same script with those 2 for past 2 years now. The second goal they look like two bowling pins bouncing into each other lol
Just a bad performance in terms of creating chances and exasperated by terrible defending. Cannot win games if we concede like we do and then clearly struggle breaking teams down who sit it and defend a lead.
Unfortunately looks like cas is injured again.
02 Nov 2023 07:00:22
Mumbles
“ We've wasted all of it Tim. I'd much rather a squad of players that work hard and show they want to win then one of the most highly paid, highly assembled teams ever. ”
You’re absolutely right, and do you remember saying the same thing under Rangnick, under Jose, probably under LVG as well.
This is a huge part of the problem - the idiots upstairs are throwing tens of millions at players who are simply not worth it.
02 Nov 2023 08:01:25
Talking of players. I know it might not be popular but I think Onana at Everton is a hell of player. He has everything that none of mids have as a package. Size, speed, athletic, physicality and good technicaly.
Not going to fix this squad by selling one or two and adding one or two. Seems like they take turns to have howlers. One game its these 3 or 4 and the next is another 3 or 4.