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05 Jun 2018 20:06:28
Ed001 I saw your replies on the Liverpool site regarding concussions (I must say some of the opinions were a disgrace and i agree 100% with you. ) do you think the Head Injury Assessment currently being used in Rugby Union should be adopted into football? There is not enough done in football regarding concussions and as someone who suffered a few playing rugby, they're incredibly dangerous, and were one of the major decisions in me stopping.
For anyone not aware of a HIA, I believe a doctor can pull you from the game and you will carry out a 10 minute assessment where you achieve scores, which are compared to your normal scores (taken at the start of the season) and a decision based on the outcome determines whether you can return to the field. Whilst the test is done another player can take your place as a temporary sub, which is made permanent if you fail the test.
Should this system be brought into football? What do you guys think?


{Ed001's Note - I think the system should be taken even further, but yes, something along those lines needs to arrive. People are laughing about it because of the result and the mistakes Karius made, but they should stop thinking about a game and realise someone's life was put at risk. Forget the result, that is irrelevant and we will never know whether the mistakes were down to the concussion or not, but that is not the point. The point is someone has had to be taken into hospital a few days later for something that could have killed him if it wasn't treated and it should have been picked up at the time. He clearly informs the ref he was elbowed in the face, plenty of social media discussion has gone on about whether Ramos did it on purpose or not, so why was he not checked out?

I think the rugby system is probably the best place to start. Get them off the pitch so no advantage can be gained, but allowing a replacement means there is no disadvantage either, so it gives a doctor time to be certain. With something as dangerous as this, we need to be certain.}

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06 Jun 2018 09:15:17
Top post that Ed. Football is so corrupt its unbelievable . There is too much much control from the higher ups.

06 Jun 2018 09:33:45
Totally agree gents, HIA should be enforced. The risks of concussion are well known and HIA would be easy to implement.

06 Jun 2018 10:45:16
You see so many incidents with head on head collisions and it just makes you wonder how many concussions have gone unnoticed. They’re horrible things, and if anyone has ever suffered from one they’ll understand how scary they can be. It’s a big area which other sports are trying to tackle so why not football?

{Ed001's Note - because football is so tribal, even a serious head injury is just seen as a chance to have a dig at an opponent. Football is still light years behind other sports in every aspect of science, it is no surprise medical science is unable to get through to the teams. They are only concerned with results, so it comes down to strong regulatory bodies to deal with this and that should be the PFA. Where the hell are they on this issue? Why are they not jumping in to protect the safety of their members?}

06 Jun 2018 12:58:05
concussions are an area of sport in extremely passionate about. I suffered from 4 in a space of 14 months. The affects they can have on you are simply terrifying. It’s going to take something major like a death of a player to cause change. I have a feeling that in a few years it will come out the that governing bodies have covered up many different instances where concussions have taken place.
Return to play protocols should also be put in place on the game too, but I’m not sure if there’s even any guides in place?
I got stood down for 3 months before calling it a day with the rugby.

{Ed001's Note - I don't think people realise how serious they are to be honest.}

06 Jun 2018 13:11:11
Needs to be a massive change made ed. Hopefully some players come forward in support of karius as now is the best time with the topic being in the public eye.

{Ed001's Note - instead we get treated to Ramos basically admitting he must have elbowed Karius and treating it as a joke, while Courtois opens his mouth with more stupidity and the likes of Chris Sutton saying they should have never admitted he had concussion! Something seriously wrong in football when that is the reaction to such an injury.}

06 Jun 2018 14:19:53
How Chris Sutton is still a relevant name today in the game says it all. I’m not commenting on karius performance or the affects that the concussion may have had on his performance, but it’s ridiculous what some people are saying about the chap.
Toni Kroos said if he was concussed he should have brought himself off. all that says to me is that the players aren’t even educated on the subject. Would love there to be a study in top level football on concussions and changes to be made, and quick.

06 Jun 2018 14:56:34
Its so dangerous. You have to let the experts in this case doctors do an examination. It should be brought on. I fear it is going to take a serious incident, most likely a death on the pitch before football gets its house in order.

06 Jun 2018 15:44:35
My buddy over here in the US is the son of former Middlesbro' centre half Bill Gates, who is now suffering from the onset of dementia. There is currently a class action law suit in the works to address head issues former players are now experiencing later in life that he's been invited to participate in.

So watch out for that coming soon.

{Ed001's Note - I just don't get why the PFA do not do more.}



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