09 May 2024 12:14:17
I don't follow this logic that the same players who are not working hard enough in the games, work so hard in the trainings that they get injured? Also, the training is done by coaches who have done it for decades - it makes no sense to blame ETH for this.
It presents a worse reality that like Martial and unlike Bruno - many players are not upto it. It also means the manager is hence a goner.
09 May 2024 12:48:21
Jose said there was a problem with some players physicality and always being injured.
I think a huge part of the problem is the medical team being sub par and maybe the recovery not being handled correctly leading to further / repeat injuries. ETH has voiced frustrations with the medical team.
09 May 2024 13:52:53
Kurtis
I may be wrong but think the esteemed Ed said the injuries were not the fault of the medical team about 2 weeks ago
I will say again, when we were drastically short of CB last week why were the fit ones not looked after. There are far too many injuries and muscle injuries from training. There has to be questions
We do not know who is driving training but to keep doing the same things expecting a different result, yet bringing more injuries is the definition of madness.
09 May 2024 13:54:11
Glasner went into Palace in Mid-Feb. Since then he has improved the strength, fitness and intensity of the side. That comes from hard work. They only have 4 or 5 players out injured currently. Fernandes played every game up until Palace and I assume attends every training session. Our medical team need a serious review of them.
09 May 2024 15:50:56
Fair statement Red Man.
I may have missed Eds comment. It's difficult to pinpoint where the injuries are coming from. We can't fairly say it's all down to EtH, as there will be numerous coaches including Strength and Conditioning working with the players.
To keep doing the same things expecting a different result is the definition of madness. It's a shame you don't share that same view on sacking managers.
09 May 2024 16:17:43
we can always just skip training and hope they show up match sharp and fit and give us a rousing performance.
09 May 2024 17:43:12
Trimmed
The club not the manager comes first, we also need to accept that just giving time is not always the answer. We have not made good decisions, examined character, skill set, leadership, vision. If so would we have appointed Moyes, Ole? Would we have appointed ETH if we knew what this mess looked like or that he would be intransigent, to the point of embarrassing the club? That he has thrown players, young ones under the bus?
Apart from Sexton, Moyes and Ole, I waited to see what they could do. However, your point should not be about why do the same thing over and over by sacking them, the point should be why we appointed these managers over and over.
When SAF retired I felt we should have changed structure because we would keep on lurching left and right as each manager changed, and we have. All the while losing our identity. Real Madrid haven’t lost theirs or Liverpool, Chelsea don’t blithely let a manager ruin the club and nor should we.
Having done this in business and if I was DoF I would be asking ETH what his plans, vision and thoughts are about what he is doing, why, what his aim and vision is and what his plan to get us there is. I would look at what has happened, ask him for observations on it all. Given what we are seeing it’s a shambles and we have not been sold a vision, a key element of leadership.
When you realise that then you realise it is ripe for someone who meets all the criteria and at least it looks like people are capable now. Unless of course they think the answer is Southgate, in which case a repeat of the above will take place in 2 years.