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15 Jan 2018 21:02:00
City have withdrawn their offer. Chelsea intersted.

Shan UNITED boy

1.) 15 Jan 2018 22:09:18
Cant follow the figures though although I doubt any journo knows. The Indy saying Arsenal wanted Martial PLUS cash? and now its 30 million PLUS Miki? neither of those deals look good to me.


2.) 15 Jan 2018 22:54:54
I can't see Chelsea splashing the cash when there is an unknown with the manager. Probably going public to satisfy fans that they tried.


3.) 16 Jan 2018 02:04:16
Replacement for Hazard is my guess. Hopefully just BS, but if they are in the mix it will be a problem for us I think - these foreigners seem to love London, I doubt they spend much time partying, learning the history and shops you can find anywhere - it's just convenience and the 'image'.

I genuinely don't see the draw in London for a professional footballer over other major cities in the UK.


 

 

14 Jan 2018 13:16:24
Di Marzio reporting that we have reached an agreement with Sanchez and his agents.

Shan UNITED boy

1.) 14 Jan 2018 13:50:28
Than surely we have. that guy is special at news.


2.) 14 Jan 2018 14:13:10
That guy is specially wrong everytime he opens his mouth.

Incredible.


3.) 14 Jan 2018 20:29:19
Yeah sure he is mikon. What planet you living on. Has always been incredibly accurate. Most have some decent sources.


4.) 15 Jan 2018 10:31:48
Incredibly accurate? that's a stretch, sure he is better than some but he is wrong about transfers all the time!


 

 

13 Jun 2017 18:48:47
This goes out to Ed002 if he is available. I read somewhere, I think it was the Chelsea page, that United could be in for Fabregas. could you possibly shed some light on it please? Given that we see a Magic discussion down the page, is it Matic or Fabregas that we are interested in, if either.

Shan UNITED boy

{Ed002's Note - Manchester United could potentially be push for Matic as the interest from elsewhere has gone. Fabregas is keen to stay.}


1.) 13 Jun 2017 21:25:38
Sorry Ed, can I clarify, the interest United had elsewhere has gone or interest in Matic from elsewhere has gone?

{Ed002's Note - The other club that was interested in Matic are no longer keen.}


2.) 13 Jun 2017 23:41:11
Cheers for the reply, Ed!


3.) 14 Jun 2017 05:26:33
Thanks Ed. If Fabregas is staying, why are Chelsea considering Verrati? They can't have two similar sorts playing in the same game.

{Ed002's Note - You appear to be on the wrong page.}


4.) 14 Jun 2017 05:38:51
@Ed002

Wasn't the other club that was interested in Matic? If so, have they found someone else they are going for or have they backed out due to a high asking price?

{Ed002's Note - I am sorry - this is the MU page.}


 

 

01 Jun 2017 19:05:06
Last year Adidas teased with the Pogba-United ads, this year Huawei has started it with Greizmann. Did anyone see it yet? Jose calling Griezmann.

Shan UNITED boy

1.) 01 Jun 2017 19:59:11
He doesn't answer the call tho, is it a sign?


 

 

11 Feb 2017 13:20:13
Hand of God goal today.

Shan UNITED boy

 

 

 

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13 Jan 2020 18:32:05
Who do you think is or has been the best striker in the PL era? There are the usual suspects like Rooney, Henry, Shearer, Drogba and Aguero. My United affiliation makes me go for Rooney but l my brain says Aguero has been sensational and continues to be.

Thoughts?

Shan UNITED boy

1.) 13 Jan 2020 18:56:42
Drogba was unplayable in his prime. Class player - mind you they all were on your list.


2.) 13 Jan 2020 19:03:33
nistelrooy and aguero have to get it from me. Boy do they know where the back of the net is and both have more to their games than just goals. I'd say two completely different styles but both are magnificent strikers.
Then you have the likes of ronaldo who didn't even make the list.


3.) 13 Jan 2020 19:04:13
I would put RVN on that list as well, shame he wasn't at the club longer or joined earlier, he was one of the best finishers I've ever seen.


4.) 13 Jan 2020 19:19:13
Aguero for me. Supremely consistent, big game player and can do everything. Still haunts us that we missed out on him and David Silva.


5.) 13 Jan 2020 19:31:50
That's a tough one. So many great strikers, it really depends on how you want to set your team up.

RvP had so much talent, the way he floated around the pitch was graceful, and no one strikes the ball as well as he does. Clean, no back lift, the ball sweetly struck would fly off his boot.

Shearer was a beast, no CB wanted to play against him, he just knew where the goal was, scored every type of goal imaginable and was a really tough physical player who could go toe to toe with any EPL CB.

Henry was amazing, you knew what he was going to do, but no one could stop him. He carried a very good Arsenal side on his back at times, and was so important in the invincible season.

Then you have players like Cantona or Bergkamp who were not only strikers but because they played deeper offered so much more of a complete performance for their sides.

Aguero has been phenomenal over the past 8 years or so since he joined City. Scoring some of the most important goals in Citys history.

Drogba is an iconic EPL striker and a key player in José's Chelsea side that established themselves as a top side in England.

All of them have been so important to their sides and to great EPL teams, very difficult to separate them.


6.) 13 Jan 2020 19:38:44
You cannot look beyond Shearer then Henry as the best strikers to have graced the Premier League era.
Best United striker if you look at statistics, RVN with 95 goals, 4 seasons scoring 20+ followed by Andy Cole, 94 goals 5 seasons scoring 20+ but my personal favourite will always be RVP. Apart from Ronaldo, best player I have seen at United since the days of Jesper Olsen.


7.) 13 Jan 2020 19:58:04
What about Owen or Fowler, and no mention of Dwight Yorke.


8.) 13 Jan 2020 20:02:22
Shearer was the best number 9 .

{Ed025's Note - henry 1...shearer 2...aguero 3..


9.) 13 Jan 2020 20:11:42
Henry for me. Had everything you could want from a forward. Pace, strength, got a huge amount of assists, great ability on the ball and a great finisher. Also as much as he scored he fair share of screamers he did score all types of goals.

Also have a soft spot for Le Tissier, not strictly an out and out striker and not in the class of many of those mentioned above but his highlight reel rivals anyone. Comes across as a really nice guy who simply enjoyed his career at a club he loved.


10.) 13 Jan 2020 20:13:10
Park has said it best for me, aguero all day long and what a kiss along with silva.


11.) 13 Jan 2020 20:19:37
Rvn aguero shearer in no particular order as best cf. Honourable mention for fowler. But aguero just pips it for me as his goals delivered lots of big prizes for a club that won nothing for years.
Cantona bergkamp and henry were just a bit more than goal scorers and all great players and influences on their teams.
As usual hard to compare over different eras.


12.) 13 Jan 2020 20:49:25
Shearer surely, 7 times scored 20+ league goals and 30+ 3 times. The guy was incredible, imagine Shearer in that 90’s united team.


13.) 13 Jan 2020 21:09:35
Shearer 370 odd goals playing for Southampton newcastle and Blackburn.
Imagine him in the city team .
Was never the same player after his first season at newcastle when he done his ankle . Which is a shame for 10 year of his career he was half the player he was at his peak .
I think he was 23 when he knocked in 31 league goals for Blackburn followed by 34 and 31 . 26 years old had just scored 96 league goals in 3 seasons .
Unbelievable player at the time then moved to newcastle got Injured and was never the same, said he had to change his to a target man .
Still scored goals, most ever in the epl but says himself played over half his career at 75%.
If you where lucky enough to see a young Shearer at Southampton and him in his prime at blackburn ( both limited teams ) he wasnt playing with the silva or giggs of this world, he is very hard to look past.
I woukdnt judge him on his newcastle days tho.


14.) 13 Jan 2020 21:26:11
Shearer, just ahead of aguero with rooney third for me.


15.) 13 Jan 2020 21:32:28
Shearer, Henry and Aguero could have played in each other’s eras comfortably so are the stand out three but Henry played the sexiest football so takes it for me! Close call though.


16.) 13 Jan 2020 22:04:11
RVN Rooney Shearer.


17.) 13 Jan 2020 22:13:12
Shearer, a phenomenon. Particularly considering who he played for.


18.) 13 Jan 2020 22:27:06
Some of these would have struggled in the days of Rush, Hughes, Lineker etc. The days that defenders were not penalised for breathing on the forward.


19.) 13 Jan 2020 22:52:46
Shearer, I hate him for not joining us, but he's the best striker I've ever seen live. Could have played in any team in the world, against any opposition, and he would have scored goals. Head, feet, free kicks. Could score from anywhere, and his stats, in non-elite teams, are just silly.


20.) 14 Jan 2020 00:02:16
99 I agree, united have had a couple of great teams but if we had of got Shearer in his prime?
At Blackburn he was unbelievably, I honestly think a lot have only seen a watered down version of him .
Same goes for gazza and rooney, a few didn't see them at there best .
I was lucky enough to see gazza at newcastle, best english player I have ever seen, by a distance.


21.) 14 Jan 2020 04:48:53
Shearer, Henry and Rooney.
Rooney in his prime was an absolute beast.


22.) 14 Jan 2020 08:50:41
Henry no question.


23.) 14 Jan 2020 09:11:31
Surely Ian Wright, Suarez and Hasslebaink must be honoroubale mentions as well. Even Ole :)


24.) 14 Jan 2020 09:27:18
Rooney was no doubt a great player but scoring 20+ league goals twice in the Premier league doesn’t compare to Shearers record. When you think of the players / Teams at United Rooney played in then compare them to the teams that Shearer played in, for me Shearer is head and shoulders above him as a Striker. I honestly think had we got Shearer before he went to Blackburn we’d of won multiple Champions leagues in the 90’s, that’s how good he was. Shearer with the service the 90’s United strikers got would of been a revelation.


25.) 14 Jan 2020 10:37:19
I am surprised nobody has even mentioned Harry Kane (136 Pl goals in 198 games) . But my top 3 would be Shearer, Wazza, Henry/ Aguero.


26.) 14 Jan 2020 12:40:53
In 5 years time Kane might be in the equation, but as yet his 4 good years can't seriously have him in the conversation as best EVER.


27.) 14 Jan 2020 13:34:32
I know were mentioning premier league strikers but I think shearer massively underachieving for England. Probably the best goalscorer but Henry just edges it for me but all mentioned are top drawer strikers.


28.) 14 Jan 2020 14:40:39
Blackpool red, by that logic them Messi can't be considered the greatest of all time as he has won naff all with a very talented Argentina team.


29.) 14 Jan 2020 15:53:24
Messi is not the greatest of all time. He shouldve moved clubs or done something internationally to be considered the greatest.

Ronaldo is even better then him or has achieved more.


30.) 14 Jan 2020 16:05:24
Oh come on Shappy. Messi is in a different league to Shearer. Are Argentina really that talented.


31.) 14 Jan 2020 18:31:56
Using that logic Singh, Pedro is a better player than Giggs.


32.) 14 Jan 2020 18:37:31
Messi bottles it and sulks when it doesn't go his way far too often to be considered the best of all time.

Best in recent times, though.


 

 

05 Jan 2020 08:25:41
Tony, you replied to one of my posts on the match posts page saying that it was boring and repetitive and same old same old. I respect that and kind of agree with what you are saying.

It infact is same old same old. Now when Ole and his team are performing same old same old and boring stuff week in week out, i don't see you commenting on that.

I am entitled to criticizing Ole's performance as boring similar to what he is providing on field. I am getting bored by this and i come on here to vent out my frustration. The day i start enjoying this nonsense i won't post same old stuff on here.

By agreeing to and not criticizing these performances, we the fans are allowing the higher ups to sit on their hands and not make the required changes. They are happy amd satisfied because the fans aren't making any noises. Us being silent is enabling them to keep making mistakes. I am not ready for that.

Shan UNITED boy

1.) 05 Jan 2020 10:20:30
Shan ignore the bully boys and hypocrites. They have very very short memories.


2.) 05 Jan 2020 10:26:14
You mean like how the fans spoke up with LvG and caused the club to scrap the Allegri plan? That sort of "helping" the club by the fans making demands.

The difference with Ole is it will take a hell of a lot for the Old Trafford faithful to turn on a club legend. There are always murmurs of discontent online, keyboard warriors venting frustration at every loss as they have no idea how to deal with disappointment and lack the ability to be even minded step back and assess the situation. They live on emotion and are irrational, and it is far easier to vent and shout mutiny and treason behind the vale of anonymity.

The match going fans are the ones who tend to be heard and listened to. While those fans still appreciate what Ole has done and what he is trying to do, while having a slightly better understanding of what is happening behind the scenes at the club back the manager then the board will feel no pressure at all.


3.) 05 Jan 2020 10:35:31
Shappy I think the craziest thing is you sit here saying all this when you were doing exactly the same when Jose was in charge. I don’t think what anyone is saying about Ole boring or an agenda, but is a reaction to what we are seeing on the pitch, which is simply not good enough. Everyone is aware what is going on behind the scenes, and that we are going nowhere with Ole as manager. Why can’t Shan or others vent that they believe he’s not the right man for the job without being called toxic or having an agenda? It so hypocritical considering how you acted during the end of Jose’s era. Let’s not try and pretend like you didn’t say things which were personal against him. Does Shan sometimes go a bit overboard with his sarcasm? Perhaps, but this is a platform for him to vent and he’s entitled to do so.


4.) 05 Jan 2020 10:47:56
Shappy

Amusing that you say keyboard warriors live on emotion, emotion being the only reason Ole is still in a job.

Actually you have described the very problem which is ruining the club, the inability to deal with the Ole issue because of who he is rather than judging his managerial ability.

Apparently if what I read is true there are many unsold tickets for the City game and I bet after last night the Wolves replay won’t be over subscribed. Ole’s management is starting to put us in a world of apathy, where supporters won’t turn up, won’t pay to watch, won’t pay subscriptions, can’t be bothered tuning in, we will get less TV time and money so eventually the money men will hear the fans.

You also conveniently forget that the club loves its 600 million fan base, uses the number in pitches to the stock market, yet now its just the match going fans that matter and that number is starting to drift.

No pressure on the board, dream on. Whilst Ole is there it is an emotional rollercoaster and when it stops the weeping won’t just be for Ole but for what used to be a relevant institution called Manchester United.


5.) 05 Jan 2020 11:06:37
You are a hypocrite shappy of the highest order.
Your posts 18 months ago on jose mirror those of shans on ole.


6.) 05 Jan 2020 11:06:56
Shappy is in denial and continues to live in 1999. Whilst the world has moved on 21 years, Shappy just can't let go. You my friend can live at your pace but don't call anyone who has moved on a toxic. Ole the player is a legend but Ole the manager is thd worst thing that has happened to this club in the last quarter of a century. Yes i am a keyboard warrior but don't kid yourselves that the voices aren't being heard.


7.) 05 Jan 2020 11:12:21
He was a legend as a player, mostly for one sole goal. In contrast as a manager he is legendary, already, as hapless, naive and destructive force. He has used all of his brand equity, and must go now. Others should too. One of them is Ferguson who has anointed him, and is in part responsible for the cycle of decline that he have spiralled into. This swamp will only be drained if we appoint a sensible manager and support infrastructure, and work out a coherent strategy.


8.) 05 Jan 2020 11:32:52
TheFrenchman

Spot on and let’s not forget SAF anointed Moyes and told us to support him too.

We have to get a better manager Immediately, whilst we still have a chance of top four and build around him.


9.) 05 Jan 2020 11:56:55
Why we rowing and banging on about Ole and the past, the club will look to make a change if Ole does not make CL football and tbh, any manager would struggle at OT with the clown up above them running things. Before we can say this or that manager needs staying or bringing in we need to restructure above then look at putting an identity into recruitment.
Ole may not be the right man or good enough but there's no need to bash him as the club is ran like a joke atm anyway.


10.) 05 Jan 2020 12:01:06
So no more sitting on the fence, what do you think of ole redman . I couldn't see the game so recorded it, has anyone ever done this and tried desperately to avoid the score and warned people over and over not to tell you the score, then when you've watched it berate people for not telling you it's an awful nil nil.


11.) 05 Jan 2020 12:08:57
Shan, I posted a long reply earlier but it hasn't appeared. I'm out and about today so will send it on later.


12.) 05 Jan 2020 12:57:11
😂😂😂slate you must have known 1 side would be nil at least.


13.) 05 Jan 2020 13:10:20
Shan, I am not accepting of what I see, I just find the same posts after every poor display boring and frustrating. I agree with a lot of what you say, I just don’t need to read it again and again. My view right now:

1. There is a lack of leadership and strategy (copyright Red Man) and this is the root cause of most of our woes.

2. When SAF retired he was allowed to decide on his successor. Hmm, we need someone who has European experience, won a few things, handled big players, plays entertaining football, I know, we’ll appoint that dour Scotsman from Everton even though he doesn’t tick any of the boxes. Naive, foolish, and incompetent.

3. Then we get LVG who should have been here for 3 years but Ed sacked him because the fans weren’t happy. If that’s true then it’s incredibly sad that Woody didn’t have the backbone to back his decision and see through his plan, to bring Allegri in the following year.

4. Then we move to Jose, a winner but pragmatic, moody, grumpy, and never a good fit for us. He won the Europa and then finished runners up and it seems that’s where the falling out started. He wanted players, he didn’t get them. What is most startling is we gave him a new bumper contract and then sacked him within a year having to pay him off.

5. And so to Ole, no top level experience other than relegating Cardiff (copyright Red Man) and it seems a sentimental choice. However, after that incredible initial run there weren’t many not wanting him appointed. Appoint in haste, regret at leisure.

6. Since SAF retired our dealings have been amateurish, paying well over the odds and recruiting players who were not good enough. The money we have wasted is obscene, in any other industry the top man would have been sacked by now for the millions and millions wasted.

I don’t think anyone thinks Ole is the long term answer any more but just changing the Manager won’t fix all of the above. 6 weeks ago people were taking about relegation, and suggesting Ole would be sacked if we lost to Spurs and City. We beat them both, limped up to 5th, people cheered up, but since then it has been pretty dire again.

Pogba has to be sold as soon as possible, he doesn’t want to be here and rumours are his team mates know that so he will just become an unsettling presence. The reshaping is taking too long, we need more out and mor win, but given our transfer record over the last 6 years is anyone confident we will buy well?

I have no answer, I share your frustrations but mine are more with the club and it’s structure as opposed to what I am seeing on the pitch. I’ve loved seeing Williams and Greenwood getting game time, AWB was a great buy, James has real potential, there is a superstar in Rashford struggling to get out. Unfortunately we are being left behind both on and off the pitch by a number of teams and for the ‘biggest club in the world’, that really isn’t acceptable.


14.) 05 Jan 2020 13:22:47
Fair point ken by the time I'd finished watching it I'd mastered the Michael Carrick is it next week the mother in law is visiting expression.


15.) 05 Jan 2020 13:45:16
I hold my hands up, I was a toxic fan when I called for Jose to be sacked.

There is no denying that, and I won't pretend to.

Jose was/ is a far better manager than Ole. But the fact remains he didn't want to be at the club and never had the club's best interests at heart.

Yet, for the first 18 months I supported him. Yet when it started going down hill, when he started tearing apart the dressing room, and results started to go down hill I saw no reason to support someone who held our club in utter contempt.

I wanted him gone, and I said so regularly. That was toxic. What sort of supporter actively undermines the leader of their club? Quite simply a toxic one. I was, if you are now then you are a toxic fan.


16.) 05 Jan 2020 14:00:23
Ole is not the leader of the club he is 1st team coach no more no less.


17.) 05 Jan 2020 14:08:30
I think this is where the big issue is.

Shappy says that Jose didn’t have the best interests of the club at heart.

We think that because he was a former player, Ole has the best interests of the club at heart.

Both these positions are simplistic.

The best interests of the club are to recognise that massive investment and modernisation are needed. When SAF retired he left the club with an ageing squad with limited quality coming through. This has never been properly addressed.

Jose was pushing for reforms - a DoF, investment in the core of the squad, and zero tolerance for lazy unmotivated players. The club didn’t back him, and things fell apart last season. They backed the likes of Pogba and Martial, and the dressing room was lost.

Ole, in contrast, has continually stated that no major reforms are needed - he doesn’t need a DoF, he is fully backed in the transfer market, and the club is heading in the right direction.

Given the performances on the pitch, the lack of quality in the squad, and the persistently amateur recruitment, is Ole acting in the best interests of the club?

My own take is that Ole is in a very weak position. He is not in the job on merit, and is unlikely to ever get a job at this level again. Therefore, he is pliable. He won’t complain like Jose, he’ll keep smiling and telling us that everything will be peachy in a few years. In other words, he enables the club to put reforms on the back burner, and will be a convenient fall guy at the end of this season.

This isn’t putting the club first. It’s allowing us to stagnate in the name of his own career.


18.) 05 Jan 2020 14:15:05
Interesting points, but the FACTS are that United are in a worse position than a year ago. The football is still as dire as ever, we're not winning against the weaker teams, our defence is leaking goals at an alarming rate despite over £135m being spent, the manager is too scared to make the big calls re poor form of DDG, Lingard, Mata, but keeps on insisting on playing them in a system that is clearly not working.
I also agree with Ed002 that the club is in tatters and run by amateurs. So, until we get proper owners who will put the right measures in place and identify the manager and his team to enforce a long term plan, we are going to continue this laughable situation.


19.) 05 Jan 2020 15:15:15
Good post Danny and AAA.


20.) 05 Jan 2020 15:19:11
Very good post Danny. Agree will all of that.


21.) 05 Jan 2020 15:29:52
Suit yourself Shappy. Quite literally you are like Ole losing your credibility mate.


22.) 05 Jan 2020 15:24:52
Good post ajh too.
I think everyone is frustrated apart from a handful who think ole has us heading in the right direction.
Sometimes reading a view time and time again under various guises can be frustrating particularly when you know the view is right but you just don't want it to be right.
Nobody on here likes the situation we are in but there is no point ignoring it. It does good to debate views on here and get your frustration out. If you don't want to read it dont. Lots of people do like reading it and debating it.
3 or 4 days in a row people post pogba must be sold i don't get how that is any different to saying ole must go?


23.) 05 Jan 2020 15:28:04
So shappy it was ok for you to call for jose to be sacked and write essay after essay on the topic but you think its ok to critisise redman for thing likewise with ole who has a far worse record? How do you draw the conclusion that that is a reasonable way to act?

{Ed047's Note - you may need a super computer to work that out


24.) 05 Jan 2020 16:44:51
😂 ed047. I just don't understand why redman is being slammed by a few who did the same thing. The double standards are very obvious.

{Ed047's Note - I don’t either, for me he hits the nail on the head 99% of the time.

The truth of the matter is OGS failed at Cardiff and how that merited him getting the massive job of managing United is beyond me.

I wouldn’t want TH14 as manager at Arsenal because he clearly doesn’t have what it takes albeit he is a genuine Arsenal legend, not a 1 goal wonder.


25.) 05 Jan 2020 17:14:07
That's the craziest thing. They know he is right. They don't even disagree. But don't want him to write it down. That way its not really happening😂😂😂.

{Ed047's Note - ahh the old stick your fingers in your ears and go lalalalala 🤣

I still can’t believe they made it a permanent role when waiting until the end of the season was 100% the most sensible thing to do.


26.) 05 Jan 2020 17:17:37
spot on Ed and Ken.


27.) 05 Jan 2020 17:47:47
Shappy, your posts are so hypocritical. Have a bit of humility and remember exactly what you were posting while Jose was in charge. I don't remember Redman ever giving you grief the way you do to him for RIGHTFULLY calling out what an embarrassment Ole is as a coach.


28.) 05 Jan 2020 17:54:39
I think Woodward was bamboozled into Ole’s appointment after the results as a temp, then became completely carried away by what happened in Paris, the emotion of the night, not able to recognise it was a freak result.

He was also goaded on by people like Rio and Ole’s mates, previously so vocal against Mourinho, getting behind Ole. Woodward went in the opposite direction as a type of manager from Mourinho, so much so it seemed a reaction and certainly wasn’t a well thought out strategy. If I recall correctly the perm decision was actually made after two poor results but instead of saying woah, Utd just ploughed ahead.

Reacting, going in the totally opposite direction with the next appointment might be a natural reaction to a junior manager new to recruitment, however, it should never ever happen at senior level executive level. The fact it did tells us all the decision process is an utter and complete mess. The fact they haven’t had the leadership to correct the utter mess tells us even more how shocking the situation is.

Ole is not the only one needing removal but we have to try to get top four to give us something to build on, to attract players.

However, top four seems to be used as a driver for the timing of a managers sacking, the reason to lower the payout, rather than doing whatever it takes to get to it. That in itself highlights the muddied thinking.

First step is try to get something out of the season whilst we are still in touch and that means sacking OGS and getting someone who knows what they are doing. It really isn’t rocket science.


29.) 05 Jan 2020 18:05:26
Of course it's happening, it just doesn't need to be written down every bloody day.


30.) 05 Jan 2020 18:16:12
More to the point I’m a grown adult and don’t require anybody on this site, editor or not, to tell me how to support my team.
If I back the manager and see what he’s trying to achieve he gets my support. Likewise if the football is rubbish, alongside tactics, transfers and other essential aspects, then I don’t back him and want a change.

The toxic rubbish is just that as every football fan up and down the country are either happy with the manager, undecided or want him out.
It’s the same at every club at and at every level so don’t let anybody tell you any different despite what they “appear” to know.


31.) 05 Jan 2020 18:58:52
Good thread folks. A lot more entertaining than the football on show!


32.) 05 Jan 2020 18:56:28
Redman feels the need to write it. Don't read it AJH. That way you'll both be happy.
Censorship is up to the editors not posters.


33.) 05 Jan 2020 20:40:34
Danny what a post that was. Well done and i hope that shooshes up all the Ole supporters.

The issue here is that there is no point in name calling and saying someone is boring.

I find majority of the stuff on here very repetitive and only reply when i n33d to.

Quite frankly this page is not what it used to be.

We used to talk about tactics, players and new formations but now its just about calling each other out.

We are ufcourse going to disagree with each other as we are all different so just chill out and enjoy the ride because there's lots more bumpy rides on the way and we will see a lot more of Watford type results until the change happens.

Another point is if we just sit here and not complain then the change will never happen and us as fans have the right to voice our opinion.


34.) 05 Jan 2020 20:47:00
Shappy,

Only match going fans should be listened to?

Only they understand what is going on and see clearly and want Ole?

That is some serious bull testicles.

I go to the match, I have no idea what goes on behind the scenes or understand the structure of the club whatsoever. so there.


 

 

01 Jan 2020 21:46:52
Come on lads. Let the excuses begin. Afterall we were so wonderful against the giants of Newcastle and Burnley. 1 win in the last 15 for Arsenal and we can't even stand up to them let alone challenge for a victory. But i am sure players aren't good enough. This and that.

Shan UNITED boy

{Ed047's Note - to be honest Shan I can see what Arteta has done for us in such a short space of time and OGS has done nothing like that with you.


1.) 01 Jan 2020 21:55:00
Garbage again. Really don’t know how some people are seeing positives in this season at all. We’ve on the whole been dreadful. Manager is clueless but because of who he is he’s getting away with it. Shocking for a massive club to be run like this, really is.


2.) 01 Jan 2020 22:00:44
Shan,

As long as you can say I told you so after every defeat then all good, at least one fan is happy.

Disappointing again, the inconsistency is crazy, Arsenal were very good in that first half but we’ve shown again that without our 2 best midfielders we aren’t good enough. Thought Ole got it wrong selecting Shaw tonight after Williams performance against Burnley.

Inconsistency sums up the season, fortunately all the other teams around us are inconsistent as well so we are still in with a shout. Feel dreadful when we play like that, certainly wouldn’t be coming on here mouthing off like I’m delighted about it.


3.) 01 Jan 2020 22:08:32
Probably a fair point, Shan. But do you have to be so smug about it every time? You’re very good at providing a sarcastic comment, but rarely offer your insight to how you’d do things differently. I only mention it because this site is a good forum for informed debate, instead of the memes and other drivel on social media, and it seems a shame to water that down with a good old ‘I told you so’.


4.) 01 Jan 2020 22:11:13
Saw that result coming if I'm honest. The problem is that we sprinkle in the odd semi decent performance now and again so ole keeps in the job. There won't be any changes anytime soon either to coaching or playing staff so u might as well buckle up till the seasons over.


5.) 01 Jan 2020 22:12:24
Stand we are no longer a massive club. footballing wise.


The thing is we all know the players are poor but why doe we keep playing this same set up with 2 cdms and then we play people out of position every single game.


People like William's and garner must be thinking what they have to do to start games.


Some of the players are consistently not performing.

Why does lingard get kicked every week he offers absolute nothing. he is a waste of a player


The defence is poor the 2 centre backs just get bullied by anyone and everyone and then shaw is nowhere everytime someone attacks.

We need players in this window and we need them fast.


6.) 01 Jan 2020 22:13:50
Got to say Ed047 you can definitely see what Arteta is trying to do. And to do that after such a short time is promising for you. We were shocking and it is clear our manager is out of his depth. How anyone can think he deserves more transfer windows is beyond me. But credit to you, you wanted it more, played with far more energy, tenacity and desire. Fully deserving of the victory.

{Ed047's Note - thanks Park and I’m more than pleased with his first few weeks.


7.) 01 Jan 2020 22:14:38
I don't come on here that much these days but are people still talking positively about the Ole regime and believing it's going to come good?


8.) 01 Jan 2020 22:17:01
To be fair to shan those on the other side of the debate can't wait to jump in with their 'i told you so's' when we won a couple. Then they disappear 'for a break' when they don't like what they read.
So its a bit tit for tat.
Feelings run high.
Gds as i know you are quick one in with an i told you so and you like a good gloat so you should have a little tolerance 😂😂.


9.) 01 Jan 2020 22:27:23
What are the options if Ole is sacked, which will happen eventually in 2020.
Not convinced by Poch, Allegri or Blanc. Can see a clamour for Giggs if Wales do well at the Euros, but I'm not sure it matters who replaces him, another clear out of players is that really the answer.


10.) 01 Jan 2020 22:27:34
I’ve not said I told you so when we have won, I’ve said many times I’m not judging on a game by game basis and I’ve replied to posts on here all season.


11.) 01 Jan 2020 22:34:48
Attitude, Attitude, Attitude!

We saw a young Brandon Williams run himself into the ground against Burnley. His determination to run forward and provide the team with an attacking outlet was a joy to watch. Shaw today was a disgrace, he had absolutely no appetite to get forward or provide the team with any width or offer any kind of attacking impetus.

AWB is great in 1v1 situations but he must also show a hunger and desire to give the team more going forward.

Fred and Matic wanted too many touches in midfield and just didn't play the ball forward early enough or choose the right option.

The lack of urgency and quality was alarming .

Arsenal wanted it more and we just wasn't up for the fight yet again! Same old story!

Like I said in an earlier post we're only ever a few injuries or bad result away from a crisis.

This team will either find some consistency or the manager will lose his job.

Like Ed002 has said the Club will some big decisions to make probably sooner than they'd like!


12.) 01 Jan 2020 22:37:20
Very touchy gds. Only the last paragraph was directed at you mate. You know what it refers too. After all you waited 18 months to deliver your i told you so moment😂.


13.) 01 Jan 2020 22:43:50
Ken, Shan is always spoiling for an argument and an I told you so. let's not pretend otherwise. We were awful tonight. No need to always try and stir sh1t up with other posters.


14.) 01 Jan 2020 22:45:32
As performances go, that's one of the worst of the season so far. Arteta took charge of Arsenal 2 weeks ago and they looked like they had a cohesive plan on how they wanted to play. Our players still look like 11 strangers, one defender drops deep, others step up to play offside, some press but others don't, hardly any runs off the ball. Incredible that after a year, it still looks like the only attacking option we have is a counter at rapid pace.

Undoubtedly some of the above is down to the players themselves and whether they are good enough but a lot of this falls at the feet of a coach. Ole seems to have a unique managerial skill in that he is able to make the poor or average sides we play look great, but the better sides we play look poor. It's going to be a long second half of the season.


15.) 01 Jan 2020 22:47:33
GDS, we are all fed up of this. Solskjaer isn't being judged on a 'game by game' basis.

He is a terrible coach lucky to be given this job. 38 games, 16 of those losses. A win ratio of 27% or something to that effect. For the life of me I don't why some on here think there are positive signs.


16.) 01 Jan 2020 22:49:35
It's a lot bigger than just attitude DLIB. We were tactically all over the place too and some of the choices were baffling. is it a wonder that a talented player like gomes wants out when he sees lingard ahead of him each week putting in performances like that and worse.

We were also told Ole was going to put faith in youth.


17.) 01 Jan 2020 22:52:40
Nou, I think Ken's point was more directed at those who are more than happy to jump in with the 'i told you so's' once we play well. Tit for that as he says. not sure he was trying to 'stir sh1t up' here.


18.) 01 Jan 2020 23:02:26
I was not stirring up at all noucamp
I was as angel has said there is i told you so folk on either side of the debate he they play tit for tat beteeen them.


19.) 01 Jan 2020 23:17:13
Angel is spot on. Ole is not being judged on a game by game basis. He has been here a year and we can’t seem to string more than 2 wins together in the league. We have some brilliant results like last week and then undo all that good work the next game. This isn’t something that’s happened once either, it is a pattern Of inconsistency. At the end of the day it’s a results based business and that’s what Ole will be judged on, so I hope. Any other top club would have made a change by now and brought someone in qualified to do the job. Arsenal and spurs both made the change. Heck even Everton and Watford did. We are meandering towards middle table mediocrity and it’s so plain to see. When will this end? There are some very talented players in this squad and they need to be coached properly to reach that next level. Ole cannot do that, end of.


20.) 01 Jan 2020 23:49:28
if you think Arteta has successfully implemented any tactical changes in 3 games?! Your boys are just running harder than usual, even Ozil! Regardless Ole has no idea what he's doing I don't disagree.


21.) 01 Jan 2020 23:52:36
I totally blame Ole for this loss. There was no need to change the side simply because of the momentum built up from the last two victories regardless of what anybody on here thinks about the opposition. You can only beat what's Infront of you. The players though their not the best still give it their all. That being said I am sick and tired of Pogba. I don't believe for one minute that he's injured and the sooner he is sold the better. Ole at this time is dependent on him to provide that creative spark due to lack of options at this moment but he keeps shafting Ole. Ole should just tell it as it is instead of continually defending this prick. No point in having a player who doesn't want to be here. The club totally muck this up this past summer.


22.) 02 Jan 2020 00:00:37
Solsjkaer is not the right man to take on this project. He has no history as a manager and has no proven ability to make manchester united a contender again. Fans who want him to stay are letting their heart rule their head.

To give him credit he has done well at bringing young players like Rashford, Martial and William's into the team.

The problems don't begin and end with him either, the board behind him are making him look even worse than he is. At the start of the summer Solsjkaer had clearly been promised 5 players. He received 3 towards the end of the window.

We should have all known that coming into this season with a make shift right winger (James), no attacking midfielder, getting rid of Lukaku without replacement and the rest of the midfield being weaker than the year before that it was going to be a struggle.

The sounds coming out of the club at the moment seem to suggest that there will be no signings in January. Even if they wanted to I'd be surprised if they managed to bring any of their targets in. That for me will be the nail in the coffin for Solsjkaer as the team he has at the moment isn't good enough to be in the top 4.


23.) 02 Jan 2020 00:23:50
he did not bing rashford or martial into the team.


24.) 02 Jan 2020 00:30:27
Angel and Ken, I was referring to the OP from Shan.


25.) 02 Jan 2020 00:45:22
@dazw - didn't reread after typing. What I meant was that he has done well with those players and made them better as well as bringing William's in. I'm aware martial / rashford weren't solskjaer signings or youth players that he brought in but he has got them putting in some of there best performances.


26.) 02 Jan 2020 05:03:19
Stevie, GDS, the time for I told you is finished. Its now the world told you so. And if you still can't see or listen to that then god help you. I am not judging on a game to game basis. My points are consistent from the day this "non manager" was made permanent.
Alty Jim, there are a lot of things that can be done differently starting with throwing the garbage out ie the manager. there's nothing wrong in saying that i made a mistake. Get in someone who knows what he is doing. There are atleast a 100 managers who would do better than OGS. Why on earth would you break a winning combination? Why was Lingard put in? Why was Shaw? Greenwood taken out, why? Dan James has been disappointing after the first month but i wouldn't blame the lad as he is still adjusting to the big league. OGS doesn't have a plan B or C, yesterday he didn't have a plan A. that's how bad it was. As soon as someone picked up the ball in the defence, first thought they had was to lump it up so that the sprinters might get on it. Arteta isn't stupid, he saw the game against City and prepared keeping that in mind but our genius thought what we will do the same. Did he change the tactics during the game when he saw it wasnt working? NO. Everyone just wants to lay the blame on the players as long as OGS gets a free pass. Matic is blamed. Did you know our best moment yesterday came because of him, his strength to hold the ball and turn and slip that wonderful pass to Pereira.
I mean come on wake up now. don't let your emotions take the once great club to the gutters.


27.) 02 Jan 2020 07:56:58
I pretty much agree with what you're say Shan but in Solksjaer's defence the games are pretty thick and fast at this time of year and some rotation is not unreasonable. We don't know about individual players recovery and fitness to play in the Arsenal game after the Burnley game.

I think also some of the players are responsible for a drop off in effort and intensity.


28.) 02 Jan 2020 08:25:42
My bad nou. Read like you were having a pop at poor Ken 😂.


29.) 02 Jan 2020 09:44:19
Ok nou.


30.) 02 Jan 2020 11:38:08
As if 😁.


31.) 02 Jan 2020 13:42:38
No redman is nous target😂.


 

 

26 Dec 2019 18:13:54
Good thus far. that's another month now for the GOD.

Shan UNITED boy

1.) 26 Dec 2019 19:25:05
Oh mate. Enjoy a win!


2.) 26 Dec 2019 19:32:36
They played very well Shan. Against a team that tried to play low block and counter football. Who also took the lead.

Alot went right today. Performances from key players. Players who had doubts over them stepped up.

Didn't look to ne like the manager has lost the confidence of the players. He will get a few months yet.


3.) 26 Dec 2019 19:39:26
Wow words fail me.


4.) 26 Dec 2019 19:39:39
Shan, you sometimes make some great points but your sarcasm can be ever so slightly predictable and wearing.
Merry Christmas mate.


5.) 26 Dec 2019 20:40:28
I’m surprised an Ed hasn’t called him out on the sarcasm and the way points are made.

Good performance, Ole got a lot right today and Pogba gets 45 minutes, happy.


6.) 26 Dec 2019 20:58:49
An ed called him GDS, like a parent or school teacher or something? 😂

Great performance today, it was very refreshing. Thought when they scored it was going to be same old but the players really stood up.


7.) 26 Dec 2019 23:04:54
That's funny angel😂
Great win. Martial fred and awb were all on top form. Good goals and piety dominant for the most part.
Job well done this week.


8.) 26 Dec 2019 23:41:49
Angel,

I was just being facetious as I was spoken to for sarcasm a while ago. Just a little joke.


9.) 27 Dec 2019 00:18:38
I got it GDS. Good point, mate.


10.) 27 Dec 2019 03:38:35
Ah a frog has leaped out as soon as it rained. i am surprised everyone hasn't called you out given that you only come out when we win.

Tony i posted after the second goal bud. I m delighted by the result, make no mistake my friend. I just think that these results paper over the cracks.
Hope you had a happy Christmas. Looking forwards to a happy new year.


11.) 27 Dec 2019 04:22:23
We must maintain this energy and work rate in upcoming matches as well.

Pogba will bring goals from midfield.
Hope they don't get complacent and become sloppy in the next match.

This is the perfect chance to build momentum and gather points as a lot of matches are coming thick and fast.


12.) 27 Dec 2019 07:41:35
Ah okay GDS, was just taking the Mick myself. Didn't realise that you were actually. spoken to for sarcasm 😂.

{Ed047's Note - more than just the once angelred 🙄🤦‍♂️


13.) 27 Dec 2019 10:26:33
Not everybody has had a sense of humour bypass angel.


 

 

07 Dec 2019 19:24:52
Wow. just bloody wow. Feels amazing beating the champions on their own turf.

Suuuuppppeerrrr!

Just one concern. Why did we stop playing in the second half?

Shan UNITED boy

1.) 07 Dec 2019 19:43:19
Shane because we where 2 up and city are a good team who will control the game against anyone e for periods of time .
Why do you think we stopped .
How do you think rash is doing.


2.) 07 Dec 2019 19:46:13
Lingard dissapeared in offense and martial getting tired killed our counter attacking in the 2nd half that and the fact that none of our mf or defense could actually get the ball into rashford and Martial's feet.


3.) 07 Dec 2019 19:47:39
😂😂😂 because the champions were knocking on the door, and we held out for a momentous win.


4.) 07 Dec 2019 19:50:32
Absolutely chuffed to win. Well done Ole, credit where it is due he got the first half right and we held on. We didn’t react to Walker dropping into Rashfords space in the second half, which stopped most of the pacy breaks.


5.) 07 Dec 2019 20:07:06
Can't critisise them for that shan. City piled on the pressure we defended it well in the main. In reality we could easily have had 3 or 4 and not been flattered by it.
Front 3 are a real handful and jessie is back making good runs and applying pressure.
The key for me is the attitude work rate and improving quality of fred and in particular mctom.
Both have been really good at tracking runners and fred has stopped losing possession so much.


6.) 08 Dec 2019 04:18:49
GDS, thanks for reminding. My point is we had the champs on the ropes. They could have been 5 down by half time. We could have killed the game by getting a third but we didn't try and gave a chance to City to come back into the game.


 

 

 

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09 Jan 2020 03:32:18
Caolan, the season before Ole took over we finished second behind a record breaking City and finalists in the FA cup, won Europa and Carabao cups a season before that. In what dictionary is that called failing?

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03 Dec 2019 03:33:02
Haha kettle says you are black.

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02 Dec 2019 12:33:40
Wonder if Florentino Perez also thinks the same before a sacking. What if my next manager thinks that fans will have issues.

Man Utd will be a lucrative job for any manager provided he has the balls to do it.

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31 Oct 2019 08:57:21
But Weggy, MH could bo onto something. Despite having Maguire and unbeatable AWB and Lindelof, we have hardly kept a clean sheet this season. Although, i understand we are still early days in the season and the partnership needs developing but MAguire hasn't had that effect on the United defense as VvD had on Liverpool's.

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15 Jan 2019 12:44:24
Good shout that Shappy. Both great options and won't cost much, but then again its United so even stones cost us diamonds. Wonder what happened with Bertrand. Remember he was linked to us and he is a good option for Shaw to compete with. Are there no fullbacks in our academy?

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16 Jan 2020 16:27:19
Again true Scooby. I guess you are referring to Ole's pressers given that he has to "say something" in those. 😁😁😁.

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16 Jan 2020 10:59:47
Too true GDS. Its weird when people make up their own comparisons to want to prove a point. People tell us winning a league in Norway is a credential to manage Manchester United. I mean atleast the OP made apples and oranges comparison, league comparison is more like apples and pineapples. But what to say people will just say anything. You will also notice a couple of them have crawled out of their hole after a couple of victories. 😂😂😂😂😂😂.

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08 Jan 2020 14:25:01
And i bet we beat them 4-0 and the buffoon keeps his job for another couple of weeks.

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Suit yourself Shappy. Quite literally you are like Ole losing your credibility mate.

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05 Jan 2020 11:06:56
Shappy is in denial and continues to live in 1999. Whilst the world has moved on 21 years, Shappy just can't let go. You my friend can live at your pace but don't call anyone who has moved on a toxic. Ole the player is a legend but Ole the manager is thd worst thing that has happened to this club in the last quarter of a century. Yes i am a keyboard warrior but don't kid yourselves that the voices aren't being heard.

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