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20 Jan 2018 22:55:45
Ryan Sessegnon seems to get better and better. Massive talent at his age. With us badly needing a decent LB, just wondered ED002 If United are keeping tabs on him? Have we any interest at all? Thanks.


{Ed002's Note - No.}

1.) 21 Jan 2018 00:53:06
Shame. Think he’ll go right to the top of the game.

{Ed007's Note - And wishing he was Kieran Tierney....

2.) 21 Jan 2018 07:18:06
We have a decent left back, his name is Luke Shaw.

3.) 21 Jan 2018 08:45:12
And oh how reliable he’s proven to be over the last 3/ 4 years. He needs proper competition, it’s a weak area in our side.

4.) 21 Jan 2018 10:24:37
If We keep the Shaw we have seen the way 4/ 5 matches we have a player on our hands. Remains to be seen. Don’t see what’s wrong with keeping Darmian to fill in on both sides as and when (unless he wants to leave to play regular football) . Don’t forget Young has been excellent too this season. If TFM comes back next season he can provide good cover at right back.

Midfield is where we need some serious re-inforcements now we have Sanchez coming.

5.) 21 Jan 2018 11:43:27

Because it’s all about shiny new signings mate, forget the dead wood we already have, they are all useless.

6.) 21 Jan 2018 13:09:04
Keeping Darmian means blocking the chance of any comptetent right sided full back. That is to say stopping us getting a full back that can defend, attack at pace, can put in a good cross and who might chip in with the odd goal.

7.) 21 Jan 2018 13:05:13
I haven't seen enough of Ryan, but from what I've heard he will soon be at a top club in the PL. On the other hand I've watched Tierney on a couple of occasions and I think we should go for him. Young could be cover for Valencia and Shaw and Tierney can battle for the LB.

8.) 21 Jan 2018 13:22:40
Ryan looks a very good player could and might play a bit further forward in the future.

9.) 21 Jan 2018 14:01:53
Let's remember also that if rojo is good enough to play left back for Argentina in a world cup final then he ie certainly good enough to play left back for us.

10.) 21 Jan 2018 14:41:59
No he'S not.

11.) 21 Jan 2018 14:43:37
Argentina’s left options must be dire then because Rojo is shocking at left back not having a dig at him because I think he’s a very good centre back but left he is terrible.

12.) 21 Jan 2018 15:42:26
I dnt think he'll be a left back for much longer in his career! He's basically a LWB right now at Fulham. Wouldn't surprise me if he ends being a LW in his prime years!

13.) 21 Jan 2018 16:11:43
I agree, may move forward like bale did.

14.) 21 Jan 2018 22:43:12
Competent right beck BFB? Darmian plays for Italy. The mastersof defending.

15.) 24 Jan 2018 17:35:08
Worst italy team for 80 years.



15 Jan 2018 16:00:57
Ed002, sorry to bother, just wondered if there was any update with regards to Sanchez. With Wengers saying it could be done in 24/ 48 hours is there any progress ether way? Where do you see his most likely destination? Thanks in advance.


{Ed002's Note - I cannot answer "most likely" questions sensibly. Wenger ill likely be right that it will be completed soon - perhaps in the next couple of days but there is no agreement just yet.}

1.) 15 Jan 2018 16:05:19
Twitchy bum time, we'll just have to wait and see.

2.) 15 Jan 2018 16:09:48
No probs ed, cheers.

3.) 15 Jan 2018 16:15:06
Notice that it says will be completed but not where he will complete to. I still struggle to believe he will be a Utd player with it seeming so nailed on for city for so long.



08 Aug 2017 20:46:54
Will that be the end of the Bale rumours?


1.) 08 Aug 2017 22:31:19
Does that actually change anything if they only wanted to sell him if they get Mbappe?
Would he have been playing if Ronaldo was fit?

2.) 09 Aug 2017 05:55:54

3.) 09 Aug 2017 07:00:11
Would Isco not be available if Mbappe comes in AND Bale stays?

4.) 09 Aug 2017 07:25:48
Allen. Did u watch bale last night? You don't think he would be a big upgrade on anyone in our team then? He would be our best player and give us a whole new dimension.

5.) 09 Aug 2017 09:04:35
But if he doesn't want to come then its pointless chasing after him.

6.) 09 Aug 2017 10:07:53
Mort, exactly, hence the OP.

7.) 09 Aug 2017 10:30:01
dont clubs usually ask the agent if his player would be willing to join and I'd imagine if we got told he (bale) has no desire to join us then we just wouldn't pursue him so if we are interested like the eds have said we are then we must have been encouraged to carry on pursuing.

I've no idea if this makes any sense my heads a shed from just writing it 😀.

8.) 09 Aug 2017 11:03:37
I think i know what you mean dave :-)

9.) 09 Aug 2017 11:10:57
And bales agent has always said that his client is going nowhere. Wd bale improve our team. probably. but not at a cost of 90m.
Despite being 32 cr7 is valued 40m more than when we sold him in his prime. Bale despite being only 28 is valued the same as he was 4 years ago, this in an era when transfer fees are rocketing. Why has bales value not risen? 3 reasons imo. injury record, the loss of that extreme pace that made him so devastating previously and the fact that RM would happily cash in on him if he could be persuaded to leave so that they could buy mbappe.
Good player yes but not worth 90m or so with his injury record.
Would prefer isco all day long as I suspect RM will when la liga kicks off.

10.) 09 Aug 2017 11:56:55
I watched the game and he did very little can see why he might be available. He is no where as influential in that Madrid team as the other guys (modric, isco, kroos, Ronaldo, benzema) and for me influences the game very little. For 90 million I would rather spend it on 2 other players.

He does no defending and good in a counter attack sense where he has a lot of room to run into. Put Martial or Rashford into that real team and they would thrive as well if given the chance to run one on one at defenders.

I would not be surprised if Real come calling in a year or two for our guys.

11.) 09 Aug 2017 13:29:17
Watching us last night I wish we had signed Bernardo silva He can keep the ball, we are miles away, Lukaku did nothing to impress me or change my mind about him, didn't look mobile, or have a great touch.

12.) 09 Aug 2017 15:46:53
Still think we need a CM who can control the game Herrera for me isn't good enough he's a jack of all trades master of none. With matic at DM I would prefer a more technical player than Herrera I like him but to get to the next level we need a modric or silva type player who can unlock deep defences and keep Possesion in tight areas.

13.) 10 Aug 2017 09:26:00
Lukaku is all brain, he's reading of the game is just on another level :D.



14 Jul 2017 17:55:44
Matic missing Chelsea tour. Think it's imminent then.


1.) 14 Jul 2017 20:22:26
Juventus are supposedly interested too.



09 Jul 2017 13:52:20
All the best Wayne Rooney. We had 8-9 really good years from him. Hope he is successful back at Everton.


1.) 09 Jul 2017 13:58:13
well said stand-United.

2.) 09 Jul 2017 18:24:23
After Ronaldo left he practically carried us.

3.) 09 Jul 2017 19:42:06
lets just take a moment to remember that overhead kick against City.

4.) 09 Jul 2017 20:28:36
and the newcastle volley.




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15 Apr 2018 16:49:10
So I wrote a post at half time against City saying how bad we were, and then got called out by a few, we know who they are, after we came back to win.

Is this acceptable to those of you who think we're a top side? Those who think we're improving? I'm sorry, I said it then, I said it the weeks before that and I'll say it now, we are miles away from a good side. This first half has been utter dross, I say it every week. Slow, lethargic, gutless, toothless football. Lukaku is a poor footballer. Sure he'll score 25 a season, but needs plenty of handed to hit that. He has a touch like rooneys. He's not a top striker. Matic does a job but is so slow on the ball it's like watching paint dry. Pogba has all the potential but can't be arsed to speed his play up.

This football is garbage, and I'm sick of watching it. Some still believe we're on the up. I worry about those people.


1.) 15 Apr 2018 16:55:25
Why do you keep watching stand?

2.) 15 Apr 2018 16:56:06
You'll look silly saying that after our open top parade for the 2nd place trophy.

3.) 15 Apr 2018 17:09:49
Because I’m a life long fan Angel. I’ll always follow. But I don’t enjoy it anymore. Are you enjoying this?

4.) 15 Apr 2018 17:11:24
West Brom are relegated and we are playing along the same lines as themselves.
Not great viewing for any United fan, watching the way we play.
We should be miles ahead of these.

5.) 15 Apr 2018 17:51:07
As with 90% of our performances this season we’ve witnessed tripe again! It frustrates me that the occasional city / palace performances happen and paper over all the Sevilla / Newcastle / West Brom cracks! I really don’t have an issue with loosing or drawing a match and I don’t really care who it’s against, it’s the nature of the performance and the attitude that really gets me. Pathetic result!

6.) 15 Apr 2018 17:51:39
Totally agree stand. We are boring beyond belief.

7.) 15 Apr 2018 17:53:17
Our play has been dreadful. Hats off to city, we criticise teams for not having a go at them, but city are excellent at breaking down teams that sit in. We are dreadful at it.

The usual gripe of lack of movement and poor defending. The ref is not helping matters. A stone wall penalty and Nyom has committed enough fouls to get 2 red cards (cumulative yellows) . The only performance worse than the ref was ours. Oh well, roll on next season. As the song says “things can only get better”. At least we will hopefully finish 2nd. maybe.!

8.) 15 Apr 2018 18:04:20
It is possible for us to be improving AND miles away from a top side. We are definitely better than last year. Still not great though and not happy with the level of our performances. What’s difficult to understand about that?

9.) 15 Apr 2018 18:13:47
RWWD, how are we improving? What are you watching that I’m not? Hundreds of millions spent, manager has lost his mojo years ago, half the squad wouldn’t get in a top 6 side. Really is piss poor.

{Ed004's Note - If half the squad wouldn't get into another top 6 side the managers doing something right to get 2nd in the league.}

10.) 15 Apr 2018 18:23:08
I thought today was dreadful, everyone with Theo rack to goal, slow, lacking ideas, a very very depressing performance.

11.) 15 Apr 2018 18:25:07
How are we improving? Scored more goals, won more games, lost less, drawn less, conceded less, higher league finish.

12.) 15 Apr 2018 18:27:57
another 2 hours of my life I won't get back. Different week, same old dross. Mourinho is too stubborn to adapt his winning style from the 00s. Football has evolved, his ethos hasn't. Sports science has gone from strength to strength in 10 years. Players are fitter, teams are more tactically astute and teams are all more wealthy due to financial circumstances (TV deals etc) . This WBA team would never have been relegated with sub 25 points 10 years ago. What i'm saying is that its now a more even playing field now and I don't believe Mourinho is tactically astute to compete with the very best in today's football.

I have no idea what the ideal and realistic solution is. Just my two cents.

13.) 15 Apr 2018 18:40:13
RWWD, it’s not the same team as last season. He has Lukaku, Sanchez, Lindelof, Matic, didn’t have them last season.

Liverpool and city have improved too. It’s not just about improving, at what rate we improve. We can improve every season and get further away from the top if we don’t improve more than the better sides. Totally flawless.

Last season we won a European and domestic cup. So in that sense we’ve declined.

14.) 15 Apr 2018 18:51:32
You’re arguing against points I’ve never made now. We’ve measurably improved. That was my only point. Doesn’t mean I think we’re improved enough or that I’m happy.

15.) 15 Apr 2018 19:15:13
I know it’s not the same team as last year. We improved it.

16.) 15 Apr 2018 18:31:52
Ever noticed how good players look in a team that playing well?

17.) 15 Apr 2018 18:45:36
Ed004, which of city, Liverpool, spurs, arsenal or Chelsea would fight for the signature of Shaw, Smalling, Blind, Fellaini, Darmian, Young, Valencia ( past it now ) , etc etc?

{Ed004's Note - Ok so if we take it from that perspective which of Pep, Klopp, Pochetino etc get 2nd place with those players having to play keys roles for their teams throughout the season? Not going to lie I'm not in mood to have another repetitive and boring argument again and I've work I need to get done. It's my own fault for commenting apologies.}

18.) 15 Apr 2018 19:40:51

But apart from that, what did the Romans ever do for us?

19.) 15 Apr 2018 22:10:23
Pep and Klopp would do much better with this squad, of that I have no doubts.

20.) 17 Apr 2018 05:19:56
Hehehe, GDS2 that really made me laugh. i need to watch that movie again :D.



08 Apr 2018 00:20:16

Not heard from Stand since half time? Only for the fact I've been busy. Nothing to do with my post earlier in the day.

Am I expected to change my view on Jose and this united side because we won that game? I'm sorry but I base my opinion over many games. We won 2-3 today, good result, but let's not kid ourselves. If it weren't for some woeful finishing we could and should have gone in 4 down at half time. Your ok with this though yeh?

People are ok with us consistently poor in the first half of nearly every game? We got knocked out the league cup by Bristol City, Knocked our the CL by a poor side in Sevilla, who we didn't beat in two occasions, and were 13 points behind city, having spent all that money. If people are happy that we're doing well then fine, but my expectations are higher than that.

The brand of football we play is terrible to watch with little entertainment. In fact I find myself browsing social media on my phone while watching recently it's like watching paint dry.

Jose' CV speaks for itself, but that doesn't mean he's still top draw now. I think football has moved and and left him behind tbh. I think we need a new exciting younger manager who wants us playing exciting football.

Just because we came back to beat a much changed city team doesn't really make a difference to anything. We're still well of the pace and I don't believe Jose will ever get us challenging for the title. I also believe we're a long way behind City in all aspects.


1.) 08 Apr 2018 03:05:43
Bar Aguero and De Bruyne i'd argue they were more or less full strength. Oh and walker as well. We’ve just turned the best side in the league over at their home, 2-0 down at half time. Regardless of people’s views on Mourinho, certain players etc. Today was a fantastic performance and something we’ve needed to see for about 5 years. Be happy folks!

2.) 08 Apr 2018 04:11:43
Stand, much of what you say is true, but nevertheless we are on pace for 84 points a total that has won the title in 1/ 3rd of EPL seasons, and which in no season would it have earned less than runners-up. So, despite the frustration at our performances, the lack of passion, and sometimes the lack of any apparent skill or teamwork, I simply cannot agree that we're as bad as you are making out.

I do agree that we were very lucky today. City could and should have put the game out of reach by half time. They hit the woodwork twice in the second half, could have had a penalty, and were prevented from equalizing by a spectacular save. But then football is that sort of game. We have had a few games this season ourselves when we didn't put our chances away and then paid the price. It takes a real sourpuss to be quite so negative after we've just come back from 2-0 down against a team like City at the Etihad to win 3-2.

3.) 08 Apr 2018 09:25:13
Coulda woulda shoulda, City didn’t go in 4-0 and we played better second half and won so I’m ok with that. I think people give Sevilla a hard time, they are technically a very good team, what did everyone expect that we was ready to win the CL, no chance, maybe the 1/ 4’s at best was our limit this season. Jose gets stick for not playing youth, well he has more than any other coach, for not playing this gung ho football, more than one way to win and he’s won x2 trophies already with an FA Cup potentially this year, any regular season we win this league but some say Jose is past it, no City have been exceptional and teams have been to scared to go at them, they are vulnerable tho as has been shown this week, you cannot turn round and say a ‘weak’ City team, they have a squad of world beaters, they are the so called best team ever remember, we showed them up on their own patch, a derby win means a lot so let’s not make it about having a pop at Jose, we’ve heard that all year despite actually doing well, let’s enjoy the moment.

4.) 08 Apr 2018 09:52:00
I don’t get the 80 odd points has been enough for most of the premier league winners, guess what, it’s not good enough anymore. That’s my point. You have to improve and change with the times. City will be just as good if not better next year.

As for arguing we’re not good enough to win the champions league, I totally agree, but don’t tell me we shouldn’t be beating a Sevilla side over two legs. It’s nonsense. A lot on here don’t think Liverpool are a better side than us, they’re going into the semi finals.

I don’t see us winning the league with Jose at the helm. And we’re not enjoyable to watch. I don’t even think a lot of the players enjoy playing for him and his style. Yesterday was a good result, but nothing more than that. We didn’t go and boss the game from start to finish and give them a hiding. We got very lucky in the first half and had a good second one. We’re not a top side, far from it.

5.) 08 Apr 2018 12:36:46
Stand. Two years ago Leicester City won it with 81 points and scored only 68 goals, so the argument that it's not good enough any more is not necessarily true. It's not good enough this season for sure but then this season has been a runaway. Who knows what next season will bring. Maybe we're in for a Bayern Munich type dominance by City, but maybe not. They will surely spend again but can they really get much better?

The questions for United are the same as they have been since Ferguson retired. Who is the right manager? And is the one you might prefer available? Is the set up at United attractive? Given where we're coming from any manager is on a hiding to nothing. If he wins, it's no more than expected. If he loses, he will be under constant scrutiny because of our status as the "biggest club in the world". If he doesn't spend he'll be hammered. If he does spend and the players don't come up to expectations, he'll be hammered. Sometimes highly rated managers (Pocchetino and Klopp perhaps? ) perform well for the reason that they relish the role of underdog.

I'm sure everyone will agree with you that we're not yet a top side. The loss to Sevilla showed that. Has the season been disappointing? Yes, but that's largely as a result of United supporter's elevated sense of expectation - that nothing less than winning everything is enough.



14 Mar 2018 10:16:35
I said after the 0-0 draw in Spain it was a poor result, a result which left the tie difficult for us. A lot of posters hailed it a good result. It's yesterday, knowing the situation that just one Sevilla goal makes it difficult, we should of set up to attack them a score goals, press them high up the pitch and take it to them. When I saw the team sheet I knew we weee going to yet again try to contain, a dangerous game which backfired massively. Jose's tactics are pathetic to be honest. You can see it in the faces of Sanchez, marital, Pogba etc. He's not right, we're not progressing and I'm bored senseless watching us. Yet some posters will still come here week after week kidding themselves were a force.


1.) 14 Mar 2018 10:44:58
Stand - That performance last night was that bad it even made me question if he's the right man now.

I don't think the high press or possession football is anything new and Jose has had success in recent times it's not like he's gone years without winning anything and he won the title with Chelsea less than 3 years ago.

I just don't remember any of Jose previous teams being so bad. So devoid of ideas, so disjointed, so passive, so inconsistent.

Maybe it's the weight of expectation, maybe we lack real leadership in the boardroom and a vision of how we want the Club to play.

Three different mangers with completely contrasting styles tells it own story.

There is a real disconnect between Jose and a lot of our fans and even whilst results have improved many are still very unhappy with the style of play.

They can be appeased whilst results remain good but I get the impression we're only ever one bad result away from a crisis. The swathes of empty seats after the second goal went in was a damming verdict of a truly awful night. It screamed of well we're out now so if you think we're going to endure any more of this rubbish you must be mad.

I'm starting to feel that maybe we will never really see the best of Jose at Utd. He's caught between wanting to play his own brand of football which is at total odds with the history and expectations of the fans. I think he had a similar problem at Real Madrid. Fans were appeased whilst results remained good but once performance levels dropped the inevitable questions about style resurface and anarchy on the terraces and in the dressing room ensues.

I get the impression Jose likes to be the under dog. He's thrives on being the pantomime villain and being able to forge that siege mentality. It's very hard to create this kind of atmosphere at Clubs like Utd and Real Madrid where expectation is so high and the need not only to win but to win with a certain style and arrogance is required.

At the moment he's appears haunted by the ghosts of our history. He didn't have this at Porto, Chelsea or even Inter and he was able to play his own brand of football without detractors from the outside constantly reminding him of his obligation to play a particular brand of football.

Maybe this is an over reaction to one bad result. Maybe I will be more objective once I've had more time to digest what happened but sometimes you are faced with water shed moments and I think last night was one of them.

I still think Jose is a very good manger, I still think his signings in general have been very good, I still think he has been a big improvement on Moyes and LVG, he has improved results, stabilised the club and returned us to Champions League football however I'm now starting to see this as a marriage of convenience. I'm not sure we'll ever see the football we all crave, his philosophy is at odds with our tradition and I'm not sure he'll be able to bring the level of consistency needed to compete with City without being braver and more courageous and daring to win rather than trying not to lose.

The recruitment of our next manger must be better. We must look for someone who not only has a winning pedigree but plays the style of football in line with the traditions and philosophy of our Club.

Until that time we might just have to accept that top 4 and a decent cup run is adequate considering what came before.

2.) 14 Mar 2018 11:27:08
Danny that is a fantastic post mate. I love reading your posts always informative and well reasoned so good on you pal.

I agree wholly in what you have said. I’ve always thought Jose was a top manager but like you said his tactics are a major issue. At Chelsea, inter and Porto he got away with it because in many ways he was bringing success that was unprecedented for them. But even at Chelsea they got sick of the negative style of play. At real he got away with it because he had players like Ronaldo, Ozil, Modric etc who won him trophies. But that ended in disaster as we all know.

I’ve always though Jose should have been signed straight after sir alex because he would have had a better platform to build us. His appointment was forced mainly because he became available after a torrid spell at Chelsea. But after last night I feel like even the staunchest Jose fans (such as myself) are starting to realise that he can’t get us to where we want to be. If we were winning the league then I think most people would be accepting of the style. But we are not even winning and pep ripped up the rule book and made jose’s Style even more turgid and insipid that it was before. The attacking players look devoid of ideas, passion and even desire. On paper we have players that should be tearing up teams but we set up to nullify opponents who are simply not worth the respect.

We don’t want to be known as a sacking club but I do think Jose has taken us as far as he can. I think he will have definitely have left the club in a better state than when he joined and the next manager will have some very good players to play with. All I want to see is for us to play with intensity, pace and passion. Is that too much to ask for? I highly doubt Jose will go in the summer but I fear he cannot give us the entertaining style of play that we want.

3.) 14 Mar 2018 12:37:34
Thanks Park and I agree pal. Maybe we're over reacting to a terrible night but it was the manner of the defeat, the nature of the tactics and formation and even the desire of the players which makes me question if our faith in Jose has been misguided.

Jose had a better platform at Madrid in which to challenge Pep's dominance and he doesn't seen to know what to with his own signings. On paper our best players in Pogba and Sanchez have become our worst performers. He doesn't appear to know how or where to play them and that can't be right surely! When your best players become your biggest hindrance you know your in trouble.

On a positive note I remember Jose's Inter team coming to Utd in 2009 with a certain Mr Ibrahimovic upfront and putting in a similar performance. They were dreadful but we're crowded European champions the next season. Wishful thinking I know but maybe just something to hold onto in the depressing days ahead!



01 Mar 2018 20:41:48
Anyone watching city? They are incredible. The way they move the ball, the speed of the movement and once touch is just phenomenal. They are LIGHT YEARS ahead of ourselves and the rest. You'd have to make them favourites for the champions league too. Who's better? Pep is the best coach about, shame we never got him.


1.) 01 Mar 2018 20:48:32
Yeah, a good game of football. Pep is lightyears ahead of Jose, but I don't like him. I suppose this is how rival fans felt about SAF. Maybe he would be more palatable if he was our manager.

Arsenal are not playing that badly, but City are cruising, they look like a team that trusts each other, understands where each man will be and work together - shows us up for being exactly the opposite on that front. We have the players to do what City are doing going forward, but it's like watching chalk and cheese!

This is probably why I am so frustrated about what is going on at our club.

2.) 01 Mar 2018 20:57:00
Regrettably, I agree Stand. I said that a few times and people thought I was being negative. The fact is, they have 3 midfielders on the pitch and two converted wingers who also pack the midfield. They work twice as hard as our lot. They have very few tall or big players in their side but instead, they have quick and technically gifted players.
I agree we're light years away and I also think we're not heading in the right direction. Our midfield is slow and ponderous and nothing has been done in 8 years to improve it.
I'm going to make a prediction that I hate, city will win the PL for the next three seasons. And we won't win it under mourinho.

3.) 01 Mar 2018 21:21:53
But they were beat by Wigan, lads.

4.) 01 Mar 2018 21:51:42
58,000 attendance, are they having a laugh.

5.) 01 Mar 2018 22:16:23
They include season tickets Leahy. Lol. There was about 20k I think.

6.) 01 Mar 2018 22:25:33
Oh I didn't know that stand, I thought they were hiding behind arsenal tv cameras.
They could put arsenal tv on pay per view now and would make plenty of money.

7.) 01 Mar 2018 23:01:19
The pea turns to miki.
Come join me at Arsenal you said.
Be grand you said. lol.

8.) 01 Mar 2018 23:31:51
Top manager pep with out a doubt .

9.) 01 Mar 2018 23:38:50
Or lucky jred. ££££££ plenty of money where he has managed
I'd like to see him take over a club that hasn't won anything for a while.
A mid table club, just to see what he could do.

10.) 01 Mar 2018 23:55:21
What Pep has done everywhere he manages is to introduce a clear system that he expects all players to follow. He tells them clear patterns of play and what positions to be in to receive the ball or pass it when attacking and how to regain possession as fast as poss when it had been lost. Barcelona Bayern and City all have the same shape under Pep. The players know their jobs and are bought for specific purposes. That's why he is successful. If other teams had that clarity of leadership and guidance he would find it a lot harder to win so much. The other thing is he does not tolerate players who are passengers in matches. If Jose copies Pep a bit more we might see a rapid improvement in Utd future.

11.) 02 Mar 2018 05:07:16
I think Mou like many managers introduces clear system also, but the difference is that Mou's system doesn't attract attention, not attractive and in most cases doesn't entertain.

Mou has his way of playing football which is against MU history according to many. He has been like this in most part of his career and people still think will change his tactics.

12.) 02 Mar 2018 06:48:51
City didn’t just arrive here, Pep didn’t come in to a disjointed club. City have been working towards this position for years, preparing for years to putting Pep in place, such as buying Aguero when SAF was saying no value. Pep was the cherry on top of the icing, the team was on a development plan with him in mind, then they gave him as much money as he wanted. Adulation of Pep is fine, I wanted him after lvg but don’t kid yourself he created this in 18 months, this is years in the planning and making by his old buddies from Barca, whilst we were looking for the latest super noodle partner.

13.) 02 Mar 2018 08:32:48
They have been developing Redman but pep went in there and bought 3 full backs and a fantastic gk. He brought in Silva and Sane. He has further strengthened with Laporte.
But before him, they were playing football like most teams. In just over a year, he's changed their system completely and are now looking head and shoulders above any team in PL and as good if not better than Barca.
Don't underestimate his influence. He's been very shrewd in his purchases and has improved the players already there beyond recognition.
In the meantime, we stumble from one overpriced player to another from Di Maria to pogba to lukaku. All good players but no system and still no midfield and no idea. It's brain against brawn and unfortunately brain wins Every time.

14.) 02 Mar 2018 10:10:46
City just like munich and barcelona under pep are a fantastic team .
It's no coincidence, we are seeing pep do what pep does .

Same goes for Jose our style of play is very Jose points total etc.

15.) 02 Mar 2018 10:39:56
Pep has a certain way of playing and he buys the correct players for that way of playing.
People can go on about how much pep has spent but every purchase has slotted in perfectly which you have to admire.
The only mistake he made was buying that clown of a goalkeeper but he's gone out and bought a world class keeper to replace him.
It's horrible to say but are so far ahead of everyone in the premiership its frightening. They will dominate for the next 2-3 years and it wouldn't surprise me if they won the Champions League this year as well.

16.) 02 Mar 2018 11:18:04
I find modern coaches a little stumped on how to combat peps teams . He spends a fortune but so do many teams . All teams will lose now and then and because so many teams mount a rearguard action against peps teams when it works people take too much notice and ignore the previous 20odd times it didn't . Would we dare play Silva and kdb in central midfield with one sitter behind, probs not and we would play one in a wider position for fear of being exposed defensively, yet this rarely seems to happen . Liverpool despite getting a walloping off city once this season appear to have found the closest thing to a game plan to cause city problems . I'm no coach but would be interested in others thoughts why peps teams are so dominant and ways to stop it .

17.) 02 Mar 2018 15:42:04
He takes his tactics from basketball and other non football sports after travelling to America. Surely the tactics for playing against city are in those other sports. Managers need to think out the box a little when playing them. For instance if you played 2 out and out wingers against them and left them up top the whole game then that would cause them serious defensive and counter attack issues.

18.) 02 Mar 2018 21:40:32
I'll be impressed if he leaves City in a good state. He's not left a club on good terms yet.

{Ed025's Note - pint of bitter for sepp..

19.) 02 Mar 2018 23:24:26
I'm into my sour beers these days Ed. Harder to find, but worth the extra effort.

{Ed025's Note - im sure they are sepp mate..



28 Feb 2018 20:05:33
A lot of posters been slagging Martial a lot lately. Just read an interesting stat, he has more goals and assists per minute in pitch than anyone in the league this season. Can't confirm that's 100% true, just read it in an article. If so, imagine him playing as our CF. The lads still only 22. We should be using him a lot more in his better position. He's got all the tools to be world class.


1.) 28 Feb 2018 20:35:13
He Is a talented lad who is going to be a very good player . Always had a bit of Henry about him and he will end up a c. f. just a matter of time.

{Ed025's Note - is that thierry or lenny?..

2.) 28 Feb 2018 20:47:38
Thierry ed never seen the lad smile can't be lenny.

{Ed025's Note - love it jred..

3.) 01 Mar 2018 03:44:55
Martial has immense talent but talent is not enough, many talented footballers fall by the wayside if they are not right mentally, look at Ravel Morrison for example.

If Martial can get his head right he might be special but he has to show more on the pitch, make the difference far more than he does to make the most of his talent. You can’t keep blaming the manager for what he does, when he gets the ball it is up to him. He has time yet but the level of success for his career is likely to be driven by what is going on in his head.

4.) 01 Mar 2018 08:29:04
You can't make everything about the manager (maybe you can ) nobody had even mentioned Jose .
Going to be a top player this lad.

5.) 01 Mar 2018 09:19:28
Spot on red man.

6.) 01 Mar 2018 10:11:52
It needs to come from both Redman. There’s been a lot of occasions where he’s been our best player for 3/ 4 games and picking up real momentum then gets dropped. I’ve nothiced occasions he’s our best attacker on the pitch yet he’s hooked on 60 where for instance Lukaku has been terrible in the same game. He has been our best attacker then the secon Sanchez arrives he’s moved again to accommodate when really Sanchez can play from the right. Plus he’s not getting a chance as our number 9 even when Lukaku is off form. It’s not all his attitude.

7.) 01 Mar 2018 15:31:54
I have seen Martial have good games but haven’t yet seen him have ones that make him impossible to drop. No doubt very talented but the standard has to be high and he has to find the next level. I think it’s mental, he doesn’t seem utterly focussed, definitely give the player time but it is up to him to make the step up.

8.) 01 Mar 2018 17:07:09
Talent is there I'm amazed people can't see it but that's football.
Only just turned 22 will start to kick on now.




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17 Apr 2018 20:49:25
Why would playing younger players make us more attacking? I think the managers tactics and instructions are as much the problem as anything.




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18 Mar 2018 20:12:38
Other than it’s of pace, Rashford hasn’t actually shown that much quality. His composure and finishing Needs a lot of work, his runnning is the channels isn’t the best, and he makes the wrong decision very often. He has a game where he comes up against a poor full back and rinses him the whole game and people think he’s the best thing since sliced bread again. Martial has much more potential, the quality of his finishing etc is streets ahead of rashfords. He just needs to play regularly as a forward. Martial is NOT a winger.




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18 Mar 2018 16:11:35
You can guarantee Rashford will be twice the player Martial will be can you?




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15 Mar 2018 10:30:40
Gds your in denial mate. We’ve been rubbish all season.




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22 Feb 2018 10:10:12
Couldn’t agree more beast. Went away yet again not to get beaten rather than trying to take the game to them. Nobody here can tell me man for man Sevilla are a better side than us, so why not attack them, why be happy with a bore draw? Anyone who things a nil nil is a good away score line is mistaken. A score draw not too bad, but a nil nil means we now have to win the return leg. Score draw and we’re out. Pathetic performance once again last night, nothing is inproving.





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19 Apr 2018 23:57:56
If you think Matic has been great for us this season your watching a different game to me. He had a good few games at the start, he’s been poor since November.




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19 Apr 2018 22:43:50
AJH, that’s not the same situation, as we already have a world class keeper. We don’t have any world class attackers.

On the Sanchez thing, he’s been fairly poor, but I don’t think he’s really been any worse than anyone else. The whole team have been diabolical at times.

Tbh, if we had Messi in this team with these tactics and set up he’d probably look crap. Who think Salah would be approaching 40 goals had he moved to us? Be lucky to have 15 I think.




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15 Apr 2018 22:10:23
Pep and Klopp would do much better with this squad, of that I have no doubts.




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15 Apr 2018 18:45:36
Ed004, which of city, Liverpool, spurs, arsenal or Chelsea would fight for the signature of Shaw, Smalling, Blind, Fellaini, Darmian, Young, Valencia ( past it now ) , etc etc?


{Ed004's Note - Ok so if we take it from that perspective which of Pep, Klopp, Pochetino etc get 2nd place with those players having to play keys roles for their teams throughout the season? Not going to lie I'm not in mood to have another repetitive and boring argument again and I've work I need to get done. It's my own fault for commenting apologies.}



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15 Apr 2018 18:40:13
RWWD, it’s not the same team as last season. He has Lukaku, Sanchez, Lindelof, Matic, didn’t have them last season.

Liverpool and city have improved too. It’s not just about improving, at what rate we improve. We can improve every season and get further away from the top if we don’t improve more than the better sides. Totally flawless.

Last season we won a European and domestic cup. So in that sense we’ve declined.