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09 Jan 2018 14:31:59
Not sure how reliable, but canal+ are reporting Lucas Moura has agreed to join utd with the clubs working on the fee.

BS. I have no idea. Time will tell.


1.) 09 Jan 2018 15:33:27
Heard the same red glory reporting we have had a bid of 17.5 mil accepted. like u don't no if it's bs or not.


2.) 09 Jan 2018 15:33:50
Surely he can’t agree to join if we haven’t agreed a fee?


3.) 09 Jan 2018 16:24:46
That's fee doesn't quite sound right.

A question for the Ed's or anyone else who knows.

Lucas Moura was named in PSG's UCL squad, but hasn't played a single minute. If he was to move to another team in the UCL could he play for them in the UCL this season or not?


4.) 09 Jan 2018 17:19:11
Shappy.

A substitute player who has not been fielded is entitled to play for another club competing in the UEFA Champions League or UEFA Europa League in the course of the same season.


5.) 09 Jan 2018 17:57:21
Cheers OxfordDevil, I thought that would probably be the case as it is with domestic cups. However I wasn't sure as UEFA and the FA's rules don't always align.

If he is able to play in all competitions potentially signing him makes more sense especially for the reported 17.5m.

For me Lucas Moura reminds me of Nani, very quick with a few tricks up his sleeve. On his day totally unplayable. However, he also seems to lack the consistency to make the jump from very good player to world class just like Nani.


6.) 09 Jan 2018 21:45:07
Caolan, sometimes the fee is the last thing to be agreed upon.


7.) 10 Jan 2018 00:08:59
I really hope this is a sick joke Moura nowhere near good enough we need starters not squad players.


8.) 10 Jan 2018 03:57:32
Shappy,
That post reminded me of something I was thinking about recently. The most skilled player we’ve ever had is Nani. Hear me out. I’m not saying he’s the best, obviously, bc he had feet of magic and a head of rocks but in terms of technical skill, flair and simple unplayability when having one of his rare top performances, not even Ronaldo was on his level. There’s a reason his top ten goals is astounding while he was always the most frustrating player in the squad. I’d love to hear feedback, but I think it’s a fair statement. If the poor guy could hit a decent cross into the box or find the right pass at the right moment he could have been incredible. But it always just seemed like his feet were Champions League and his head was nonleague. Or worse.


9.) 10 Jan 2018 08:45:11
Nani is not the most skilled player ever to play for Manchester United nor is he in the top 10 most skilled player to ever play for Manchester United.


10.) 10 Jan 2018 08:55:39
All knowing Ken who is in United top 10 skilful players? If Nani doesn’t make the list he would come very close. Don’t let your favouritism misguide you, Nani was very skilful but did not end up being the player United had hoped. Then again he was no Depay.


11.) 10 Jan 2018 09:02:47
I still liked Nani though. We don’t have anyone who is a bag of tricks.
If Jose wants Moura and sees something in him let’s get it done. We are woefully short on the right side and all our attacks come down the left or funnel through the middle. At least this way we might stretch our opponents little more and give teams something more to worry about. Lukaku has shown what he can do if we get good crosses into the box!


12.) 10 Jan 2018 09:11:49
I'd take Moura over Bernardo Silva.


13.) 10 Jan 2018 09:40:18
I would place Nani in the top ten most skilful players to have played for United in my life time at least. I still fondly remember him making mugs of half the Arsenal team by juggling the ball. It’s even more impressive when you consider he was up against professionals at the top of their game not 48 year old Sunday league old hacks.
When he was on form he was unplayable, the speed in which he changed directions left players in knots.
Unfortunately the days he was on top form were few and far between. He had two seasons where he looked like he was going to kick on, then he got injured and before he could fully recover and get up to speed Sir Alex retired and Moyes took over. Moyes was never going to be a fan of Nani and he slumped into obscurity. A sad end for a player with so much talent.


14.) 10 Jan 2018 10:18:45
Nani best ever? George Best, Bobby Charlton, Ryan Giggs, Ronnie, Big Duncan Edwards all better and it took five seconds to name just those five.


15.) 10 Jan 2018 11:10:31
hendonred, the discussion was about "most skilled", not "best". They are two very different things, and Nani was more skilled than any of those 5, although I think most would agree they were all better players than him.

I'm not sure he was our most skillful player, but if not, he was certainly close. Absolute magic to watch on his best days, few and far between though they were.

While I'd like it to be someone a bit more consistent, we could do with having a player who can pull that kind of trickery.


16.) 10 Jan 2018 11:24:16
I have to disagree. I don't think that Nani could lace George Best's boots.


17.) 10 Jan 2018 12:28:55
Nani more skilful than best. Check that one quick Thorne. That's outrageous.


18.) 10 Jan 2018 12:38:53
Ha ha . give your head a wobble . Nani and George Best were not even in the same orbit . Did you ever see Best play?

Daftest thing ever written on here.


19.) 10 Jan 2018 12:50:49
I don't think Nani is more skillful than Best. Very few in the history of football could rival Best.

However I said Nani was definitely in the top ten most skillful players in my life time, and I stand by that.

There is a difference between skillful and being the best. The best perform week in week out and they achieve great things. For example Forlan was a more skillful players than van Nistelrooy, RVN however achieved far more. Phil Neville was more skillful than Gary Neville. It isn't about what they achieved but how much talent and skill they had.

For me in my life time Scholes, Ronaldo Giggs and possibly Pogba are the ones who have the same or greater natural talent than Nani. If I was old enough to remember Best during his playing days then he would be there obviously as well, as would Charlton and Edwards.

Its such a shame Nani never fulfilled his potential.


20.) 10 Jan 2018 15:26:53
I've seen it reported that the fee is closer to 35mil, don't know if that's in Euros or pounds though. Would seem a little closer to his value in this market.

If we're getting a player from PSG, I'd much prefer Draxler mind.


21.) 10 Jan 2018 16:58:58
You've all forgotten that Bebe had mad skills.


22.) 10 Jan 2018 18:34:41
Define skill maze?
Is passing a skill? Is running a skill? Is positional awareness a skill? Is tavkeling a skill?

I think all the above are skills.

Do you lack the intelligence to understand that or are you just talking stepovers?

As for someone posting nani was more skilful than best that is just displaying complete ignorance.


23.) 10 Jan 2018 18:50:26
12days,

Not much difference between euros and pounds anymore mate so wouldn’t matter.


24.) 10 Jan 2018 19:01:31
There is a fellow that doea ball juggling outside the Trafford centre every Saturday . Great skills sign him up Shappy.
Consistency is a skill. Maybe nani is in the top 10 most inconsistent players at united ever.


25.) 10 Jan 2018 21:48:00
This is in my most ridiculous top 10 threads ever!


 

 

06 Jan 2018 23:22:09
Good evening Ed's, if you have the time, is there any validity to the reported Man Utd interest in Fred from Shaktar Donetsk?

Thank you in advance for any response.

{Ed002's Note - Not that I am aware.}


1.) 08 Jan 2018 17:17:37
We don't need him, we already have Fred the red. lol.


 

 

30 Jul 2016 20:36:12
Hi Ed's,
Do any of you know if media reports that Januzaj has asked to leave the club permanently after being told he could go out on loan are true?

Thanks.

{Ed001's Note - Januzaj has been available for a permanent transfer since last season. The club want him out due to attitude issues.}


1.) 02 Aug 2016 07:33:35
I have never seen anything great in Januzaj. Apart from a couple of goals and some decent display of skills, he has not performed well enough to get more chances. He may have potential but I think he doesn't deserve to be given more time here. That's my opinion on Adnan.


2.) 02 Aug 2016 08:06:11
Do you know the actual issues Ed?

{Ed001's Note - doesn't work hard enough on or off the pitch. One of those youngsters who thinks he has made it and so wants to enjoy the riches.}


3.) 02 Aug 2016 08:09:01
He's a young lad given too much too soon. One day he will realise but let's hope it's not too late. Elite sportsmen make it to the top not only because of their skill, but also their mental strength. Adnan clearly lacks the latter which is a real shame.


4.) 02 Aug 2016 08:39:38
It might be another PP situation for Adnan where he needs to go elsewhere and knuckledown in order to realise his potential. I fear the same for Memphis. Driving around the city centre in a Rolls Royce and parking wherever he wants hardly relates to the people of Manchester.


5.) 02 Aug 2016 09:20:20
I think it all started to go downhill when he was touted as the "saviour" of United by the media during the Moyes wilderness years and it all went to his head.

Agree about Memohis also - has echoes of Zaha.


6.) 02 Aug 2016 09:46:53
I remember on the Moyes pre season tour seeing Januzaj play 3-4 supberb passes from central midfield, then in Rio s testimonial a few weeks later his run down the right all the way into the area from inside his own half and thinking this kid could really be special - shame he seems to have lost his way.

I honestly thought Jose could bring out the best in him but it seems his days are numbered.


7.) 02 Aug 2016 18:44:40
Good evening ed, s. Are you aware if we have a back up plan, Should the Pogba deal not go ahead.
Cheers.

{Ed004's Note - I think Matuidi and Gomes were seen as alternatives to Pogba this summer}


 

 

19 May 2016 11:14:00
It is being reported in the Swedish press that Man Utd have bid £21m for young Benfica CB/ DM Victor Lindelof.

Not sure how reliable the info is and have not seen him play, but a new CB who is over 6ft tall with pace and positional sense would be welcome. The lad looks physically imposing which never hurts in the EPL.

A young CB and a more established CB like Varane would be most welcome. Our already tight defence would be even more solid. Just need a RW, mobile dynamic creative MF and an established striker.

I know people have suggested that an established striker would impeed Rashfords
And Marshalls development, but with league games, Europa league games and the two cups I think there are enough games to go round.

I would push hard for mahrez for the right wing and as unrealistic as it is lewandowski and aubamayang (in that order) . Not sure who we need in MF. My first choice was Sanches, as he is the closest thing I have seen to a cross between Edgar David's and Clarence Seedorf. Exactly what we needed, but that ship has sailed.


1.) 19 May 2016 11:50:20
Varane has just turned 23, pretty much ancient!


2.) 19 May 2016 12:18:33
I don't think we need another striker. Martial, Rashford and Rooney are enough IMO. Maybe another young lad?

However we do need someone who can play behind the striker. A striker would push Rashford out of the side and Martial would be shoved back onto the wing.


3.) 19 May 2016 12:25:23
I was thinking the same thing GDS. Lol. Also I thought the reason that 23 year old Varane was considering leaving Real Madrid was because he hasn't been able to establish himself in the starting 11.


4.) 19 May 2016 12:50:09
I'm with you there Huggy76. Defo them four positions are our main concern and if we can fill them with either top class players or top class potential, we'll be okay next year. Personally I would be happy to go with a few PL players, as I think that would take us up the league quicker, so something like Lukaku, Mane, for the ST and RW roles. Then Joao Mario for CM, watched a fair bit of the Portuguese league this year, mainly due to Sanches, but he's stood out too. CB is the only position I'm not too sure who we can get. Stones, Varane would be my picks, however unrealistic, but Lindelof looks a good prospect. Still, Mourinho is our most important signing this summer.


5.) 19 May 2016 14:27:25
Got to love the caustic replies on here. Varane is a more established and more suitable CB than Daily Blind.

He has started 23 league games this season with 3 sub appearances. He also started 6 champions league games and made 1 sub appearance.
He started 21 games last season in the league and made 6 sub appearances. He also started11 champions league games and made 1 sub appearance.

He is also a full international for France. If this is not an upgrade the please enlighten me as to what is.

He is already better than we have and has scope to improve and has potentially 8-10 years left at the top level. It's a no brainier for me.


6.) 19 May 2016 15:29:47
I'm not saying he isn't an upgrade, he clearly is. Just that a young player who isn't first choice for his club can hardly be called "established". I would still put him in the prospect bracket personally.

I think he would be a great signing but I'd also want someone more experienced to come in along side him.


7.) 19 May 2016 16:01:50
I'd say he has had sufficient experience to be considered asmore than a prospect.


8.) 19 May 2016 17:27:24
Fresh, I think to be considered more than a prospect you have to be proven. What has he proven at the highest level? That he can't hold down a first team place yet.

I have every confidence that he will prove himself to be a world class player, but he hasn't yet. Therefore I still see him as a world class prospect.


9.) 19 May 2016 17:39:40
Shappy who would your established 1st, 2nd and 3rd choice CB be? If anybody else cares to answer go for it.

My rational in choosing Varane is that he has longevity on his side. If you sign a 28-30 year old we will be back looking for a CB in a season or two.

I think an established pair al la Rio and vidic is a must. They developed a good understanding with each other and the RB and LB. it leads to more confidence and hopefully frees up the rest of the team to attack and create chances.

Hopefully Dave the save will win a few more golden gloves. I felt so bad for the lad losing out in the last game of the season, especially after all the games he saved us in.


10.) 19 May 2016 18:15:28
I think we need two CB's, our current stock include sick note Jones, MIA Rojo, a midfielder in Blind and the much improved Smalling. Personally I don't think any of them are good enough to be first choice for a team aiming to win the top titles. For me I wouldn't lose any sleep if Jones and/ or Rojo were to leave this summer.

So we need two first choice material CB's. Varane, Marquinhos, Umtiti or Stones could well be one option as a younger player with outstanding talent, but they would need a slightly older head brought in along side them to help them through those tough games. Manolas would be my first choice, but Mustafi, Bartra or Winston Reid would all be good options to play alongside them. The trick is to get the balance right.

Manolas would be my first choice as he is in my opinion the perfect modern defender, strong in the air, clean in the tackle, but with a good football brain and technique. Comfortable in playing the ball out but doesn't take risks. As such he would work well with any of the younger players. Bartra though maybe lacks a little physicality so would be better off paired with one of Umtiti of Varane who are more physical players. Reid isn't great on the ball but is a warrior so would probably be better paired with someone like Marquinhos who is an artist at the back.

Ideally I'd want Manolas along with onel of Marqunihos or Varane.


11.) 19 May 2016 18:17:49
So 38 appearances this season and 49 appearances last season doesn't cut it for you Shappy?

Okay then.


12.) 19 May 2016 18:20:15
Oh, and he was a starter and on the winning side in a CL final. I think he has the credentials to be considered as more than a prospect.


13.) 19 May 2016 18:43:19
Fresh, he has played quite a few games, but many of those have been sub apperances and not the full 90 minutes.

Answer me this if Ramos and Pepe are fit and not suspended who are the starting pair for Real Madrid?

In Evan's first season in the first team he made close to 40 appreances. Would you have called him more than a prospect or established at that time?

Whem your one of the first names on the team sheet then your established.

And when you play to your or close to your full potential every week then your more than a prospect.

Like I said I have every confidence that he will reach that potential but bare in mind that Jones was considered every bit as good as Varane when we signed him.

Anything could happen, but my gut feeling is he will he one of the best CB's in a few years, at which point he will not be a prospect but an established world class player.


14.) 19 May 2016 18:57:33
Varane can't get in the team at the moment, has said himself he hasn't played much since november and has missed out on the big games .
Which is why there is a lot of talk of him leaving .
At 23 i'm not sure i would say he is an established cb, i think over the next few years he will turn in to a top player and he won't be sat on the bench then.


15.) 19 May 2016 20:00:42
Shappy I like mustafi and Reid. I really rate Reid. His no frills defending would complement smalling. Very much like vidic to rio's more refined approach. I do worry that Marquinhos is a little on the small side. He is an excellent defender, but I think his size might be an issue in the physical premiership.

I totally agree get Rojo and especially Jones off the wage bill. Jones has made Wes Brown look good in terms of injuries. I dread to think how much he has cost in wages and not played.


16.) 19 May 2016 20:24:24
Huggy
Im a fan of reid, i would like him and stones .
Not sure about marquinhos in the epl to be honest.


17.) 19 May 2016 21:54:33
I think Marquinhos would be fine in the EPL, he uses his size very well.

Also the Ligue 1 has a lot of strong quick african players, so I'm sure he isn't adverse to a physical battle.


18.) 20 May 2016 10:28:00
Winston Reid.


19.) 20 May 2016 18:01:00
Mustafi or Reid with varane would do very nicely.

Same here. Varane isn't established just yet but a couple years of consistently starting and being a mainstay, which he has not been at Madrid and he will be ace!


 

 

14 May 2016 07:37:50
So sorry to do this, but a bola from Portugal are linking . Wait for it . Nico Gaitan. Let's hope he signs for somebody else within a few days.


1.) 14 May 2016 09:44:16
Surely we wouldn't let him leave. We just paid a fortune for the guy because we think he's out future, why on earth would we flog him now.


 

 

 

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19 Jan 2018 16:06:58
If/ when the Sanchez deal is done, I would love to see the club moving on to getting Blind, Herrera and Fellaini out in the summer. I would like to see Jorginho of Napoli and Sergej Milankovic Savic from Lazio being brought lined up to come in the summer.

We need to see Smalling and Rojo moves on. I would like to Laporte or De Vrji brought in along with Tierney from Celtic and Aaron's from Spain as FB cover.

Finally good by Zlatan and hello Bellotti.

I doubt very much we will get most if any of these players as all of them will come with significant transfer fees. In all likelihood those players would cost circa £270-300m. I just don't see that happening at United.

But united play at the theatre of dreams so that is what I am going to do.


1.) 19 Jan 2018 16:26:57
That would be an almost perfect window huggy! Personally I don’t think we will look to get another forward such as Bellotti now that it looks like Sanchez is coming. I think rashford will now be deployed through the middle more and I think that’s his best position. If we are going to sign a back up I would go all out for Vardy as I think his pace would be frightening for defences. Of course Dybala would be a pipe dream but we never thought Sanchez would be possible so he would be my choice to take the number 10 shirt from Zlatan.

In midfield, Milinkovic-Savic would be perfect and I think it looks like it will happen. I’d bring back pereira and integrate him into the squad along with Fosu Mensah. We would need another body seeing as though Fellaini and Herrera look like they will be off. Maybe someone like ndidi would be a nice squad player I have always been impressed with him when I’ve watched him play. Ozil would be my ideal signing I think the guy is a wonderful player when on form and he would be feeding our forwards for fun.

I’d bring in Fabinho to challenge Valencia at right back. Shaw looks to be winning over Jose but I would assess it in the summer because we know how injury prone he can be. Personally I would prefer to keep shaw rather than splash out big money on rose. I really like Jorginho but I can honestly not see us spending big on two midfielders. I like lindelof and I think he will come good so I don’t think we will invest in a cb. But if we did varane or Laporte would be a nice addition.

We have the makings for our best squad since 2008. It’s nice to have that feel good factor slowly returning. Style of play needs to improve but I’m am pleased with the direction we are going.


2.) 19 Jan 2018 16:30:06
I do think Sanchez is a replacement of Zlatan, just thinking. I would like two midfielders to be signed, DM and CM, Sergej M. S. being one, Rw, CB if Rojo and Smailling are to be moved. Not sure about the FBs as both Shaw and Fosu are doing well.


3.) 19 Jan 2018 16:35:21
Can’t see both of SMS and Jorginho coming when one will not be a starter, aka Jorginho.

Laporte is slowly becoming a dud, would much prefer Inigo Martinez if it was that style of CB we’re looking. The best move would have been Akanji from Basel, however Dortmund have already snapped him up which is a great move.

Happy to see Mourinho’s comments on Luke Shaw today, about time too. I think Tierney is a ‘bhoy’ through and through, can’t see him moving for some time.

Also, not sure I see the point in Belotti now we have Lukaku.


4.) 19 Jan 2018 18:30:18
I'm a massive fan of Jorginho and we really need a midfielder who can control a game. At the moment we are asking Pogba to defend, attack and set the tempo of the game which despite his immense talent is too much. Playing Pogba, Jorginho and Matic would give us a nice balance in the middle of the park.

Milinkovic, Jorginho, Jose Gimenez and Sidibe from Monaco would be the ideal summer window for me.


5.) 19 Jan 2018 19:27:34
Doubt wed sign that many players. I honestly feel we are not that far away, considering city are unlikely to be as good next year and we should get a full season out paul pogba.

With Sanchez coming now, i only really see 2-3 players coming in the summer especially considering the praise mourinho has lavished on luke shaw today.

We have 6 centre backs on the books and jose is unlikely to ditch any of them and that's plenty. Probably only looking at a centre mid to replace fellaini and ozil to replace mata.


 

 

04 Jan 2018 14:16:52
If we are looking for a DM that can also add to attacks, that knows the premier league and has performed well in Europe to take some of the pressure off Matic how about Steven N'Zonzi?

We need to play a midfield 3 with Pogba on the left.

I would then make arsenal a good offer for Ozil to add some creativity.

How about offering arsenal miki in exchange for Ozil? Miki is a Wenger type player.

We need a back up LB and RB, but I don't see the quality we would want being available. I don't want rose. What is the point in having 2 injury prone lb's?


1.) 04 Jan 2018 14:48:54
I don't see why we need ozil. Good player, but we have pogba for creativity once we have a third midfielder to unleash him, so ozil becomes unnecessary.

Far better to get a cm and a right forward imo.


2.) 04 Jan 2018 16:04:10
I think you need balance down the right. If the cm sits you don’t want to be predictable, I. e, the opposition know you are always going to attack down the left through pogba. Also having two creative players means you have cover.


3.) 04 Jan 2018 16:43:41
Well if ozil can be the third cm that works fine, but I can't see pogba and ozil being happy as being cover for each other.


4.) 04 Jan 2018 18:00:07
Agree red ozil could not play that 3rd central midfielder. He could easily play from right or left of the front 3 in a 433.


5.) 04 Jan 2018 18:01:03
How about pogba left, Matic or N’Zonzi centre and Ozil right, with pogba and Ozil switching position.

They are also available as squad depth in case one is banned or injured. That is what I meant by cover.


6.) 04 Jan 2018 18:37:28
Ken, would ozil as a right forward not just be another square peg?

Don't get me wrong, I'd happily have him, but just not sure how he fits in.

We'd need to change formation to get him and pogba on the pitch together.


7.) 04 Jan 2018 18:51:40
Not sure red d its where he has played the majority of his career.


8.) 04 Jan 2018 21:41:12
I thought he was central and predominantly a no 10.


9.) 04 Jan 2018 21:44:08
Quote from the man himself in October 2017:

Everyone knows my favourite position is the playmaker, the No.10, at the moment the coach plays me on the right and it’s a thing I need to accept and to show my quality in that position.


10.) 04 Jan 2018 22:49:11
N’zonzi is nowhere near The quality we need. We’ve bought enough tosh these last few years.


11.) 04 Jan 2018 23:32:10
I suggest you do some research Eric, N’Zonzi has been a revelation in Spain. His passing stats are up there, so much so that last season the only players with better passing stats in Europe were Verratti, Thiago Alcantara, Julian Weigl and David Alaba had better stats. Not bad company.

Aledgedly Barcelona, Juventus, arsenal and city were keen on him in the summer which lead to Sevilla increasing his buyout clause in a new contract.

I accept he may not be everyone’s cup of tea, but I think he would be an upgrade on the wig who wants to jump ship. If not him who do you see as a viable solution in a José team?


 

 

31 Dec 2017 13:58:26
I have never rated woy Hodgson but he has palace up for it today. If only our boys had that level of desire. Loving the fact that Mensah is playing well.

Maybe recall the lad and give him some minutes in our first team.

Also looks like city have a few injuries. Don't wish injury's on anybody, but it might help the rest playing catch up.

God awful penalty.


1.) 31 Dec 2017 14:51:02
If only we showed half of the desire Palace did. Also, palace crowd made 10 times more noise than we do at OT. Sad but true.


2.) 31 Dec 2017 19:24:18
We should get hodgson in we will all get exactly the kind of football we want.


 

 

13 Dec 2017 12:34:37
I have not posted for a while and have just been reading the positive posts when we win and the negative posts when we lose.

I think the bigger problem which remains is that the club is fundamentally mismanaged. We use to laugh at other clubs who continually changed manager and then had to chop and change the squad.

We are an economic giant, but we are run like a championship club. The likes of Bayern Munich, Dortmund, Barcelona and even Real Madrid have chopped and changed their managers over recent seasons, but they carry on regardless. They have an identity and a long term plan. They have a style of playing and targets to fit that style. Even if the manager changes they have continuity.

We on the other hand use our economic might to gloss over the fact we don't have a long term plan. With the amount we have spent on players, agents and wages we should have a much better squad than we do.

We can poke fun at city and their cheque book approach, but at least they are moving forward. Their infrastructure improvement and link to st beads school to attract top youth players is to be commended. They have a long term strategy and it seems to be working.

We on the other hand will need to spend another half a billion pounds to improve our squad depth to bring it to the same level as theirs.

Is part of the problem we have an unbalanced squad with a lack of quality strength in depth. Yes but we shouldn't after the amount we have spent.

I have seen the various opinions on here blaming Jose for his negative approach and others praising him. I personally prefer peps style of play and personality, but at least find Jose's football more watchable than Moyes and lvg's. There has been massive improvement in the team and results we are 2nd after all, but the undeniable gulf between us and city would be much smaller if we had a more cohesive strategy.

I hope our club takes a step back and looks at the last what has happened over the last 4/ 5 years and assess what could have been done better so as to ensure we do not repeat the same mistakes going forward.

We need a new lb, a new rb, creativity in mf, a RW and a new cf at the summer and if we are to close the gap on city they need to be top draw. Let's face it city will spend big in the summer. We need to get smarter, have a plan and not need to start again from scratch when Jose has his inevitable blow up and leaves.

Food for thought, let m know what you think.


1.) 13 Dec 2017 16:19:48
Good post Huggy. I think the club is still suffering with the post SAF transition, as I think he had a massive say in a number of footballing matters - similar to Wenger at Arsenal now.

I agree the club needs a long term plan to improve the footballing infrastructure including the academy, scouting network, affiliated clubs etc. The business side of things appears to be very well run based upon the commercial success.


2.) 13 Dec 2017 18:15:47
Hugh
It's a good post that but also worth noting we are 2nd in the league, in all the cups and through to the next round of the Cl . Which is an improvement on last season, where we managed to win the Europe and league cup, which in turn was better than the previous season where we won the fa cup .

Maybe an argument that we have a plan are improvement, are going forward and not backwards and at the moment in England are second only to 1 team that is breaking records .
City have more points than any team in Europe
After 15 games city had 42 points
Barce 39
United 35
Munich 35
Madrid 31.

Maybe our start hasn't been all that bad after all.


3.) 13 Dec 2017 18:24:13
Jose is the right manager to have make this team on par with city Barcelona Bayern whoever? . Imo we do need to get a few in to be there but is relatively easy January and this summer, we have huge amounts each season to spend on players Jose is good in the market for getting quility we have a very good spine when all fit who knows were we would be now with Greizmann and Perisic. This january we could sign a real top number 10 my choice would be Nabil Fekir or Greizmann or Mertens loads of top players out there. We will come strong again a season and a bit is to soon to say this is really Joses full team and happy with ever player were closer than last year to were we will be and not far off being the Special ones best team.


4.) 14 Dec 2017 08:55:04
Morning JRED, thanks for the response. I did acknowledge in my post that we are second in the league and that we are showing improvement on prior seasons.

My main point is with a little planning and the money spent we should be the team leading the way in terms of being 1st in the table and playing champagne football.

Mourinho is hamstrung by an unbalanced squad, with a lot of average players on massive wages. How many transfer windows have passed where a large number of posters on here have been screaming for new wing back and new wingers with the transfer window slamming shut and the issue not being addressed.

I just don’t think the club has a long term plan as we have owners who had envisaged exiting the club over the next couple of years. It looks like they plan to stick around a little longer, but I don’t see it being long term.

I believe we will continue to be a reactionary club and that poor Jose will continue to have to do the best he can. Which I think is ok at the moment. I expect Jose to get frustrated and leave and the club to go back to square one with the next manager.

I have to say city knew who they wanted, and spent several years working on getting pep in and getting pep style players, yes city had an average season last year, but they are reaping the rewards this year.

I don’t want to be city, I am united through and through, but I am also rational enough to see where we are going wrong and where city are going right. With a bit of planning we can not only match them, but also surpass them, I just can’t see us formulating and implementing that long term plan.


5.) 14 Dec 2017 18:25:39
Every other team in Europe must be going wrong then because city are also doing better than them.


6.) 14 Dec 2017 21:55:48
Every other team in Europe has not spent what we have on transfers, agents fees and wages.

If you think we are getting a good return on our investment I hope you aren’t a financial planner.


 

 

27 Jul 2017 14:19:38
Hi Ed's, is there any substance to the media reports that Jose is interested in signing Leander Dendoncker?

I personally see him as a better valued option to Matic. He is more mobile, good with both feet and much younger. I know he is not as experienced as Matic, but I would rather we signed him than Matic just based on the fact he is much more mobile and younger. £40-50m for a player who will soon be 29 is nuts. Let's not help a rival balance their books. Let's give youth a chance.

{Ed002's Note - RTP.}


1.) 27 Jul 2017 20:55:25
endoncker was someone Chelsea were interested in when JM was there. I am not aware of any approach at all from Manchester United.


 

 

 

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16 Jun 2017 23:48:07
We don't need him. We already have pogba and Ander in midfield to do the pretty stuff. We need a destroyer. A brick wall to shield the defence.

Someone mobile with a bit of pace and knows how to tackle.


 

 

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16 Jun 2017 14:45:08
If we are being asked to pay £70m for morata, I would pay £150m for ronaldo. He might be 32, but he guarantees you goals. He would have put away a significant portion of the chances we missed last season.

He knows the country and the league. He looks after himself. In terms of conditioning he is in better shape than half the players in the league. And if zlat can get 28 goals Ronny would easily get you 40. At least we would have someone who could take a decent free kick.

And from Woody Woodward perspective, is there a more marketable player/ sportsman in the world?

Heck I am feeling generous, Madrid here is £50m + Degea for our Ronny. Ac Milan here is £30m for donnarumma.

Job done. If only it were that simple.


 

 

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12 Aug 2016 13:28:18
Cookyman,
Totally agree. It is much better that he goes on loan if he is going to get the chance to play week in week out in the EPL. If he gets to play regular first team football he should only improve and hopefully come back ready to slot into our first team.

He is a little light weight, but has bags of technical ability. Reminds me a lot of Mata, except that he has more pace than mata. I hope he make the grade. Would love to see him in the first team after a season away earning his stripes.


 

 

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12 Aug 2016 13:28:18
Cookyman,
Totally agree. It is much better that he goes on loan if he is going to get the chance to play week in week out in the EPL. If he gets to play regular first team football he should only improve and hopefully come back ready to slot into our first team.

He is a little light weight, but has bags of technical ability. Reminds me a lot of Mata, except that he has more pace than mata. I hope he make the grade. Would love to see him in the first team after a season away earning his stripes.


 

 

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23 Jul 2016 06:25:02
AJH the clue is in his name. His a&$ told him.

One way or another let's hope this he who shall not be named saga is over. Maybe we can then move on and get some original posts back on the site.


 

 

 

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15 Jan 2018 14:35:37
Playing devils advocate here, I suppose it depends on what the board were telling him the expectations were. If he was told he was doing a good job, that he had time to improve things and to carry on and then to be sacked then maybe he has a point. If not then he is dillusional.

Don’t get me wrong, I did not enjoy his style of play or comments. He did seem to be a sandwich short of a picnic and was not sorry to see him go, but if the club did say one thing and then do another, that would not reflect well on the club.


 

 

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13 Jan 2018 17:16:15
I am very excited to see how Chong developers as a footballer. He has power and pace aligned to excellent technical skills. The lad is tall and once he fills out he will be of drogba proportions. I really really hope he fulfills his potential because if he does we will have an excellent player.


 

 

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12 Jan 2018 08:02:56
Modern players do not care about club history and how many trophies you have won. They care about the here and now. What’s the climate like, how much will I get paid, what sort of tax dodges are available and lastly what’s the style of play/ whose the manager.

On that basis, utd and city are tied on climate, cites have far far deeper oil lined pockets than we have, can’t comment on the tax dodges available, their style of play is light years ahead and their manager is not known for being grumpy and criticising his player in the media.

Unfortunately I think we are second choice for most modern players.


 

 

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12 Jan 2018 07:58:03
Good post Shawthing, did we not step back from signing lewandowski to sign RVP? I would have rather signed Lewandowski. He has kept banging them in season after season where as RVP had one good season, got moody went off the boil and disappeared over the horizon.

Haven’t we seen a lot of criticism of short term/ stop gap signings on this site? That is exactly what RVP was. Quality player, but more known for long spells out injured.


 

 

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04 Jan 2018 23:32:10
I suggest you do some research Eric, N’Zonzi has been a revelation in Spain. His passing stats are up there, so much so that last season the only players with better passing stats in Europe were Verratti, Thiago Alcantara, Julian Weigl and David Alaba had better stats. Not bad company.

Aledgedly Barcelona, Juventus, arsenal and city were keen on him in the summer which lead to Sevilla increasing his buyout clause in a new contract.

I accept he may not be everyone’s cup of tea, but I think he would be an upgrade on the wig who wants to jump ship. If not him who do you see as a viable solution in a José team?