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14 Apr 2024 14:50:13
Apparently, along with Bayern, we're having 'concrete' discussions with Frimpong's camp.

Personally, I don't think we should bother wasting our time - he surely won't leave a title-winning club for what is essentially a mid-table club in the midst of wholesale change.
I don't think he'll go to Bayern either though.

Real Madrid are looking at new defenders and I reckon he'll follow Alphonso Davies from Germany to offer a frightening extra dynamic to their game.

I hope I'm wrong, but I doubt we're even an attractive prospect for Matty Cash if not for the, erm, cash.

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1.) 14 Apr 2024 15:28:41
Good to see some positivity.


2.) 14 Apr 2024 15:58:05
Frimpong has had a phenomenal year at Leverkusen absolutely no doubt about it. However, I've often said a big problem with our recruitment is we sign players who are playing well in a totally different tactical set up to what we play.

Frimpong is a talented player without a doubt, but his current form is only possible because he is playing in a system that maximises his strengths and minimises hie weaknesses.

The 343 system suits him perfectly as it gives him the extra player in defence to cover his defensive shortcomings, while the front three means he's able to double up with the wide forward (Wirtz) to find space on either the over or underlap.

Unless we are hiring a manager who will employ a 343 type formation then it seems foolish to sign a player who has only ever thrived in that sort of team set up.


3.) 14 Apr 2024 16:11:53
Shappy’s right. We should be looking to sign players who are currently playing for teams with no tactical set up. That way, they can slot right in. Am fed up of this square pegs for round holes approach. We need players who can perform for a tactically naive manager.


4.) 14 Apr 2024 18:39:04
That's what we did with mount. Played 10 or a little wide right for Chelsea but eth wants him to play in a position he never played before. I don't think that's smart I'm not saying it can't be a success but it's an odd way to go about it imo.


5.) 14 Apr 2024 19:07:39
Rather fed up with this season now; bring on the Summer to ship out unsuitable players and bring in new faces that help us build towards success.

Hopefully - PSR and wheeler-dealing allowing - see some new players coming in.

The peerless Ed002 has already suggested that the following players might be our preferred targets:

Antonio Silva (CB)

João Neves (DM/ CM)

Denzel Dumfries (RB)

Furthermore, the Muppetiers (who some mistrust as click-bait, but generally seem well-informed), have suggested the following preferences also:

Jarrod Branthwaite (CB)

Jean-Clair Todibo (CB)

Andre Onana (DM)

Morten Hjulmand (DM)

Michael Olise (RW)

Benjamin Sesko (S)

Plus a focus on younger talents from South America.

All of these look like they would cost a lot of money, so just hope INEOS can raise lots of funds through plater sales and wages saved.

If cheaper options are needed as a result of limited funds and the sheer number of positions that need addressing, wondering if:

Anyone has heard of cheaper/ lesser known options we might be looking at?

Younger players at United who might be promoted to the first team squad?


6.) 14 Apr 2024 21:36:35
At the moment we are a long long way off challenging for a league again. 3 or 4 seasons realistically and that's getting the recruitment right every window. We seem to be getting the correct people in place to make the right signings. Top of the list aswell has to be to stop giving wannabe fashion designer rappers 300k a week . We seem to get it wrong so many times with signings compared to Liverpool and City who very rarely get it wrong.


7.) 14 Apr 2024 21:53:27
We're hardly a midtable club are we.
Sometimes reading people's thoughts is both amusing and baffling.
We have had a poor season, yet. we've also been through a protracted buyout of a portion of the club, a buyout that will bring fresh ideas and direction, something that is already starting to play out. We've also had a few injuries to contend with (although I think a squad should be able to work through these when the setup is right, see first point as to why we've struggled here) and lastly, we struggled to get rid of players deemed 'surplus to requirements' last summer, again see point one as to why this occurred.

The new owners are literally going to bring a night and day scenario to next season, in my opinion.

It is for that reason that, if Frimpong is the right person for the role we are scouting (not saying he is or isn't), then I firmly believe Manchester United is very much a big pull.
As an example, let's assume Villa make the top 4, do you think Villa in the CL is a bigger pull than Manchester United after an off season?


8.) 15 Apr 2024 00:00:25
U agree with a lot if that jimbo.
I'm not so sure we will see a night and day approach with the financial restrictions.
They will only be able to work within the rules and we have quite a financial impact to work off due to the haphazard rudderless spending.
We can only take so many hits on the books and it often makes more sense financially and to stay within the rules to keep a player rather than sell them at an unsustainable loss age taking into account all the associated costs of a transfer which are substantial.
I'm not well read on the regulations so can't give any informed opinion on what they need to do to navigate them whisky getting as close to night and day as possible.
Here's to hoping.


9.) 15 Apr 2024 04:22:58
That's why I think it will be night and day.
Write off the no hopers, even if it restricts us, to the point we are backed into a corner financially, meaning we will both, promote from within, and only sign people who understand the longer term vision.


10.) 15 Apr 2024 10:23:33
This is where our new scouting and acquisition team can earn their stripes.
Take the plight of Alex Grimaldo, who was a free transfer to Leverkusen at the start of the season. Now one of the most desirable full-backs in Europe.
The signings are out there, but we rarely find them. I'll stand by Cantona as being our biggest ever bargain. Leeds couldn't get rid of him quickly enough and the rest is history.


 

 

26 Mar 2024 13:23:57
Anybody know if TyC Sports is a credible source of news from Argentina?

Only asking because the rumours surrounding this Anselmino lad are getting louder.

Is there real traction or is this just yet another dubious outlet?

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{Ed002's Note - Aaron Anselmino (C) Braga and Benfica have been regularly scouting Boca Juniors games and together with Milan have identified multiple targets including Anselmino. Interest from Manchester United will halt with the player being ineligible for a Work Permit in England and wanting to stay Buenos Aires with his family.}


1.) 26 Mar 2024 14:40:10
Cheers Ed002.


 

 

15 Mar 2024 14:49:53
£35m bid for Sancho might come from Dortmund apparently.

Yes or no?

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1.) 15 Mar 2024 17:15:35
Bite their hands off.


2.) 15 Mar 2024 20:36:12
The entire city? That’s a lot of hands.


3.) 15 Mar 2024 23:15:36
10 times as many fingers oh and thumbs. I feel the need to be inclusive.


4.) 16 Mar 2024 03:02:30
If we can get £30m for him and his salary off the books, that's the equivalent of £60m to the bottom line over 2 years. I wouldn't offer him any compensation for loss of salary. Play hardball.


5.) 16 Mar 2024 06:28:08
30m plus a player we might want even better!


6.) 16 Mar 2024 13:31:54
I'd take £35 for him.


7.) 16 Mar 2024 15:59:32
Good idea Shaw ?‍♂️. See where that got us with martial and maguire.
He ain't walking away from millions nor should he.


 

 

14 Jan 2024 14:10:03
I've just read a piece about the prospect of Alvaro going to Benfica making it an easier win for the signature of Joao Neves - I sincerely hope this is rubbish.

If this is true, then the sheer arrogance that has made us look ridiculous for years still hasn't left.

I'd be stunned if he came to United at all, but the suggested 'offering' of a youngster given no gametime by the club as some kind of sweetener is pathetically desperate at best.

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1.) 14 Jan 2024 14:29:35
I think developing a good relationship with Benfica is an excellent idea.

The generate so many quality players, smart move.

Silva and Neves are both targets and huge talents, we really need to develop and edge in the transfer market.

Alvaro Fernandez isn’t ready or good enough right now, and we have plenty of LBs at the club. Whilst I don’t agree with decision to Loan him and sign Regullion, tbf he performed when needed.


2.) 14 Jan 2024 15:54:57
Why is it bad business if Utd can come an arrangement with Benfica that benefits both parties.

I'm not saying that this is what is happening, but it does make sense.


3.) 14 Jan 2024 20:13:33
I was impressed with Fernandez tbh. We don’t have a wealth of left back’s and I’m surprised we’ve let him go. That said, the coaching staff will have seen him every day and will no doubt know more than us.


4.) 15 Jan 2024 11:31:53
Maybe the lad wants to play some football. Benfica are a huge club with a great reputation for building careers. Why not go there rather than not even getting on the bench at Utd or going back to Preston?


5.) 15 Jan 2024 14:09:44
Utd don't exactly have a great reputation at the moment for mapping out youth players careers.

I rate Fernandez, but going to Benfica is a really good move for him.


6.) 15 Jan 2024 16:37:31
Well could be worse ork they could put you in charge?
You've no idea of any of the facts but have decided it's ridiculous.
Do you know how ridiculous that is?


7.) 16 Jan 2024 20:26:22
João Neves looks a real top prospect, however, personally I'm not sure he's a player we should be chasing this summer.

Coming from Benfica you can be assured he'd cost something north of 80m. For a 19 year old with less than 40 professional games under his belt who has never played in a league as physical or competitive as the EPL that's a huge amount to gamble on him.

We also have the 18 year old Kobbie Mainoo in our squad who's arguably been out beat midfielder this season. I'm not sure Mainoo and Neves form a natural and complementary duo, and I'd be very surprised to see any manager regularly play two teenagers in the heart of midfield for United or for any team expecting to play regular UCL football.

Given our need to buy players who are ready to step up and play every week right now at the sharp end of the EPL, and the need bring in 5-6 players this summer I really can't see us spending the kind of money João Neves would cost on a young, unproven play like Neves.

Let's take a leaf out of Liverpool's book, they could have pushed for the 100m signing of star young midfielder Jude Bellingham last summer. But realised they needed to sign several players and couldn't afford to buy Bellingham AND the other players they needed so I stead they bought 4 midfielders and totally rebuilt their midfield.

I think signing 2-3 midfielders is the smarter option for us given the massive squad rebuild we need than spending big on one player who might not even be ready for the step up.

We kind of did that last summer in the striker department. Spent big on a young player who has massive potential but probably isn't ready to play every week for us. The difference is the striker market has far fewer good options and is massively overpriced. We should be able to scout 3 or 4 really top drawer midfielders who wouldn't cost the earth but would help totally change our side for the better.


 

 

 

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26 Apr 2024 07:39:09
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1.) 25 Apr 2024 17:12:36
Zebri?


 

 

22 Apr 2024 21:46:06
Just wondering.

I know Ruben Amorim has apparently made his way to London for talks with West Ham, I wonder if there's any chance he'll have talks with anyone else planned?

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1.) 22 Apr 2024 23:20:17
It seems a strange one or perhaps he and Liverpool member spoke or saw eye to eye and Liverpool backed off.
It's impossible to know.
I don't watch sporting at all but he is highly regarded by many.
It could be an inspired move by west ham if they can pull it off.
It will be interesting to see if he does move to the epl how he gets on. Some guys just have it and if he is one of them West ham will see great benefits.
I know he likes to play 3 cbs and they don't really have 1 good one so he'll have plenty of shopping to do. ☺.


2.) 23 Apr 2024 07:19:46
Could be a good move and one that helps us long run if/ when ETH goes. A couple seasons at West Ham getting to understand the Premier League, developing his reputation (although West Ham fans have very high standards) then may come a point we look at him. Easier to get him from West Ham than Liverpool I’d imagine.


3.) 23 Apr 2024 09:17:31
Not sure we want him ports. We can't afford to wait we will have no manager come July.


4.) 23 Apr 2024 09:40:07
I was thinking more longer term Ken. They way football works now there seems to be a 3/ 4 year turn around with managers. If ETH goes, I can see Tuchel for 2/ 3 years maybe then perhaps we'd look at Amorim. I don't know enough about him apart from he's rate, just feel Premier League is a different beast so to get him in now would be a risk for United I feel. Be interesting to know what happened with Liverpool and him.


5.) 23 Apr 2024 10:47:11
Yeah it will be interesting to see ports if they stick or twist. I'm hoping twist as you know.
I'm not sure if he is totally out of the picture with Liverpool. It's so hard to know.
If they have decided they are not for each other it could be down to a load of reasons.
I know he implemented 3 at the back perhaps Liverpool don't see their squad and future that way.
Can't wait till 31st Aug but will enjoy the ensuing carnage between now and then.


6.) 23 Apr 2024 12:30:24
I'm not really sure it's such a good idea to bin off a manager because he hasn't done it in the PL.

I mean, Klopp hadn't done a thing in the PL before his arrival and was hardly coming from a team dominating their league for years.

Come season's end, Amorim will have likely picked up his second Primeira Liga title which makes him, on paper, a better candidate for an ambitious club than Klopp was.

Furthermore, ten Hag had a far better 'on paper' record than both before he came to United, but we all know the dynasty that delivered him his success at Ajax was developed at academy level which wasn't really his achievement alone.

Where ten Hag has seemingly failed with what he's brought to United's table, Klopp oversaw a structure refinement with a feelgood fluffiness to Liverpool.
That was part of Liverpool's plan, or perhaps just that of John W Henry. Klopp wasn't the first choice for most Liverpool fans, but they warmed quickly to the enigma they saw before them.

The point is, at Liverpool they had a co-owner who wanted to establish principles that fit his blueprint for success - he just needed the right coach. Klopp was that man.

Whatever the choice of SJR, whether that be stick or twist with anyone from Southgate to Amorim, we need to perhaps commit faith in a plan. Yes, a plan which is, so far, putting pegs in the correct holes.

I know Amorim likes 3 at the back, but we're apparently looking at Joao Neves. He arguably plays best as part of a double-pivot, which wouldn't work at United with the current setup.
We're apparently looking at Frimpong again, he'd be a poor option imo for a back 4.

As it stands, we only know what we know. The media can throw out whatever names they want, but they won't know anything concrete either.

I've seen my beloved club become a shambles because of an ownership and management structure full of yes men who think only about commercial status.
Now I am seeing the arrival of a sporting structure and a plan - a blueprint for success introduced by a committee of winners, both in business and in sport, headed by a lifelong fan.

I don't think ten Hag is the answer, imo Southgate would be an appalling choice, I think Potter and Amorim would each be decent options for different reasons, but I don't know the finer details of the INEOS plan so my opinions are of no value.
Whatever the decision, whoever we start next season with, SJR and the INEOS blueprint will have my support because, well, it could be worse.


7.) 23 Apr 2024 14:18:41
Joao Neves? We’ll get three decent players for his price, let’s steer away from the marquee signings for a few windows I say.


8.) 23 Apr 2024 14:21:06
My thoughts exactly ork.
I said earlier they are not only our best hope for the foreseeable future they are or only hope.
Subject matter experts in place or being recruited.
It will not be plain sailing but we should see continous improvement.


9.) 23 Apr 2024 18:40:22
Spenno,

I'm with you there mate, I was simply referencing a type of player we're apparently looking at.
Maybe Rabiot would be a better idea for now, but that would also be for a double-pivot simply because Mainoo's talent would be wasted as a sole DM.


 

 

13 Apr 2024 16:32:26
Just looking at the MEN'S write-up of who got off the bus - it seems Casemiro got off twice.

Are there two and we're getting the lesser one this season?

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09 Apr 2024 12:36:41
Branthwaite for £70m now apparently.

I think that's about right, any takers?

Ork

1.) 09 Apr 2024 13:16:47
lol. Any other nationality and it's halved.


2.) 09 Apr 2024 13:29:06
Havent seen enough of him, everyone was raving about the lad at Wolves 2 seasons ago now at Brentford supposed to be the next big thing, he hasn't set the world light =70 mill is a lot of money.

Although I still say I would go with a front line of Rashford (reluctantly or Another) Diallo, Hojland Garnacho, Antony (reluctantly) if it meant spashing our budget after sales on 2 top Centre halfs and a quality defensive midfielder. not ideal but in short term that would improve us before we look at other areas.

This is where the new regime have to show what they can do regarding recruitment.


3.) 09 Apr 2024 13:29:41
There's a reason Everton have the 4th lowest goals conceded in the league.


4.) 09 Apr 2024 13:32:59
I’d pay about three fiddy.


5.) 09 Apr 2024 13:48:14
I would sign him in a heartbeat. He has everything we need in a CB, strong, good in the air, quick, mobile, good on the ball, great defensive instincts and reading of the game, communicates well and shown some potential leadership qualities.

He's also young and English and its good to have a few of those at the core of your side, and he has the talent and the ability to be first choice for the next decade.

You look at Liverpool and they have had Henderson, TAA, and Robertson (British) who have been core first team players, along with the likes of Gomez, Jones, Bradley, Elliott in and around the first team.

City have had Stones, Walker, Foden, Grealish, Sterling, and Rico Lewis in and around the first team.

Arsenal have White, Ramsdale, Rice, Saka, Smith-Rowe, and Nketiah in and around their first team.

While Newcastle have recruited a core of British players since their takeover, Gordon, Trippier, Burn, Livramento, Barnes, Wilson, Pope, Hall, Targett, and Willock.

To be a top side in the EPL you need a core of top class British players (Homegrown), you should have 3-6 players who should be in and around the national side.

Currently we have Maguire, AWB, Shaw, Mount, Mainoo, McTominay, Rashford, Greenwood and Sancho.

Of that 9 only 3 maybe 4 have a medium to long term future at the club (Shaw, Mount, Mainoo and Rashford) . The other 5 will almost certainly leave either this summer or next, while the 4 I've said could have a longer term future there are question marks over the longevity of Shaw, while Rashford is in poor form and could well be sold if a good offer comes in. Leaving only Mainoo and Mount as players who will definitely be here in 3-4 years time.

Therefore, we should be looking to snap up the best young British talent to become core players for the new team we are trying to build. Branthwaite looks a level above any other British player who may be available this summer, with the majority of the best young British players already playing for the likes of City, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea or Newcastle.

Other potential British players we could sign might be Alex Scott, James Trafford, Adam Wharton, Archie Gray, and Evan Ferguson.

Ferguson would be far too expensive, Trafford could be a good option of Bayindir leaves this summer. Archie Gray looks the pick of the bunch but would be very difficult to sign from Leeds and he also plays in a similar position to Mainoo, its not ideal to have too many young and inexperienced players in the same position.

It's feeling like we missed a trick with Antony Gordon and Cole Palmer looking at how they have played this season. I definitely wouldn't want to miss out on Branthwaite this summer when many of our rivals probably won't be in the chase for him. Liverpool is a no go option for an Everton player, Arsenal are very settled, as are City, while Chelsea have recently signed several young CB's. Maybe only Newcastle would rival us for his signature this summer.

Much like in EtH's first summer, in hindsight we should have coughed up the 70m West Ham wanted for Rice rather than sign Casemiro. Not only would he have had better longevity, he'd have been a long term leader and been a core homegrown player for us.

We need to make sure we are front of the queue for the best young British talent, especially when they are already good enough to be first choice for us and they play in a position of need. Not going for Branthwaite this summer will much like with Declan Rice be looked back on as a missed opportunity.


6.) 09 Apr 2024 14:16:45
Did you just call Evan Ferguson British?

It’s like seeing colonialism in action. You start by saying English players, then expand it to British players and then expand Britain to include Republic of Ireland. Oliver Shapwell on the march for domination ?.


7.) 09 Apr 2024 14:35:03
Oliver Shapwell. Too funny ???.


8.) 09 Apr 2024 14:39:32
Shappy wash your mouth out.
British??.


9.) 09 Apr 2024 15:01:41
Can imagine him at City tbh sadly.


10.) 09 Apr 2024 15:17:38
I like that Branthwaite has had a bit of a football education abroad too. It’s good seeing more British youngsters going and playing in Europe, really think it helps them. I’d sign Branthwaite definitely in the summer if we have the chance. He’s the sort of signing City would make.


11.) 09 Apr 2024 15:32:43
i see a bit of chat about the lad Tosin at Fulham out of contract in summer, don't know about him but tabloiads say Spurs and Lpoll keenon him as a highly rated centre half.


12.) 09 Apr 2024 16:17:17
Hands up guys, that was a brain dead moment. Given that he's got 12 cap for Ireland I doubt he'll be doing a Rice or Grealish any time soon.

I was using British and homegrown interchangeably there and I really shouldn't as the two are not the same thing.

Danny, Ideally you want an English core to an English side, just as you should have a Spanish core to a Spanish side or an Italian core to an Italian side.

I think with English sides that extends to the home nations and Ireland as the shared language, culture and upbringing are so similar that you can create a unified core of players who have been brought up in a similar way. I think it helps to create a more unified dressing room and create a team spirit.

Fortunately we have some players in our academy who could also break into the first team squad over the next few years that would help with the homegrown quota down the line. Players like Shea Lacey, Harry Amass, the Fletcher twins, Elyh Harrison, Dan Gore, Charlie McNeil and Ethan Wheatley could all make it into the first team squad. Although Amass, Lacey and the Fletcher twins seem most likely to actually be able to push for a first 11 place.


 

 

 

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16 Apr 2024 20:27:39
Nice one Ed002, quality that.

Unfortunately, I've forgotten was was at the top - could you repeat the first few lines please? ?.

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12 Apr 2024 13:19:30
He's focusing solely on Germany's Euros in Germany which is a proper big deal for him - that's why he'll have told his people to keep the offers in the in-trays and keep the noise away until he starts looking.

In fairness, this 'offer' could be from Liverpool, it could be from Chelsea or Newcastle.

The only thing that makes sense in terms of interest from United is the strategy from INEOS to place the right people in the right roles further up. They're still hoping that Newcastle will negotiate on Ashworth, but I fully expect them to succumb to the original figure demanded for his services - that won't happen until season's end and his arrival, along with Wilcox, will surely precede any managerial arrival.
So really, on paper, Nagelsmann after the Euros, while not at all ideal for the squad rebuild, could be ideal for INEOS.

However, Nagelsmann reportedly likes to have complete control of transfers and has essentially stipulated as such in the past.
It is for this reason alone that, imo, Nagelsmann would not be a realistic option for INEOS.
It does, however, mean that Potter is, perhaps, the standout option.

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Cheers Ed002.

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23 Apr 2024 18:40:22
Spenno,

I'm with you there mate, I was simply referencing a type of player we're apparently looking at.
Maybe Rabiot would be a better idea for now, but that would also be for a double-pivot simply because Mainoo's talent would be wasted as a sole DM.

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23 Apr 2024 12:30:24
I'm not really sure it's such a good idea to bin off a manager because he hasn't done it in the PL.

I mean, Klopp hadn't done a thing in the PL before his arrival and was hardly coming from a team dominating their league for years.

Come season's end, Amorim will have likely picked up his second Primeira Liga title which makes him, on paper, a better candidate for an ambitious club than Klopp was.

Furthermore, ten Hag had a far better 'on paper' record than both before he came to United, but we all know the dynasty that delivered him his success at Ajax was developed at academy level which wasn't really his achievement alone.

Where ten Hag has seemingly failed with what he's brought to United's table, Klopp oversaw a structure refinement with a feelgood fluffiness to Liverpool.
That was part of Liverpool's plan, or perhaps just that of John W Henry. Klopp wasn't the first choice for most Liverpool fans, but they warmed quickly to the enigma they saw before them.

The point is, at Liverpool they had a co-owner who wanted to establish principles that fit his blueprint for success - he just needed the right coach. Klopp was that man.

Whatever the choice of SJR, whether that be stick or twist with anyone from Southgate to Amorim, we need to perhaps commit faith in a plan. Yes, a plan which is, so far, putting pegs in the correct holes.

I know Amorim likes 3 at the back, but we're apparently looking at Joao Neves. He arguably plays best as part of a double-pivot, which wouldn't work at United with the current setup.
We're apparently looking at Frimpong again, he'd be a poor option imo for a back 4.

As it stands, we only know what we know. The media can throw out whatever names they want, but they won't know anything concrete either.

I've seen my beloved club become a shambles because of an ownership and management structure full of yes men who think only about commercial status.
Now I am seeing the arrival of a sporting structure and a plan - a blueprint for success introduced by a committee of winners, both in business and in sport, headed by a lifelong fan.

I don't think ten Hag is the answer, imo Southgate would be an appalling choice, I think Potter and Amorim would each be decent options for different reasons, but I don't know the finer details of the INEOS plan so my opinions are of no value.
Whatever the decision, whoever we start next season with, SJR and the INEOS blueprint will have my support because, well, it could be worse.

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19 Apr 2024 23:07:02
No chance.

SJR wants the real football ethos to return to the club, which means he won't suffer fools.
Although the prospect of these two egos locking horns could get the shrug in light of Zidane's resume, the inevitable fallout could well be a financial and PR sinkhole where the victor will have wasted valuable years of a much-vaunted rebuild.

Let's not kid ourselves into thinking that the resident big egos at the club will be reluctant to challenge a true football legend, let's not be foolish enough to think their egos aren't fed daily by fortune and tongues.

Although the football would be more entertaining, this would have a Mourinho-style outcome.

Imo, only one word would fit the prospect of this appointment - Damage!

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19 Apr 2024 13:37:51
Couldn't agree more.

It's actually a disgrace and one that further drives the stake into the heart of football - the heart put in by all the working class folk who sought to bring this wonderful sport to the world, now being insulted by the continual disregard shown towards football communities beyond the big cities who better reflect the founders and early participants.

Complete and utter disgrace.

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