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19 Jul 2017 17:55:44
I've just read that there's more fantasy football going on at City with the signing of Danilo.

I find it very curious that there was no suggestion we were in for him since in my opinion we need another right back and he is willing to come to Manchester. Plus he was only £26 million!

It could be just that he preferred City or having worked once with our beam of sunshine manager decided never again.

The other possibilities are we have an alternative coming in or simply that Mourinho is happy with the players we have for that position. I noticed Valencia played at right back against Salt Lake and I think TFM got some time there as well. I didn't watch the Galaxy game. Has anyone else played at right back pre-season? Do you think Mourinho is happy to go into the season with those two plus Darmian?

1.) 19 Jul 2017 18:19:44
The fact he has slumped at Real and can't defend might be a reason.

2.) 19 Jul 2017 18:28:38
We can't sign everyone mate. Our targets were Semedo, Fabinho and Aurier. With Danilo plying his trade in Porto for a few years before moving to Madrid, I'm sure Jose knows enough about him and whether he'd suit us, evidently not. It's about getting players in that will suit our system and compliment our other players.

3.) 19 Jul 2017 18:42:23
When dids he work with jose mancman?

4.) 19 Jul 2017 18:53:06
Since the De Gea debarcle last season I can, t see Real Madrid selling us any ground staff never mind any players.
I know we have numerous targets, Perisic, Matic, Fabinho . Jose wanted them on the U. S tour, But you can't make clubs sell their players because we are interested in them.
Still feel a lot of players are not that keen on playing for Jose, It's only because we pay over the odds for players and agent fees, that we get them to sign.
City and pep put in offers for players, and get them.
Long time to go in the market I know, But we don't want to be signing players 24 hrs before season starts, Remember the Fellani deal anyone?

5.) 19 Jul 2017 18:59:26
Players want to play for Mourinho but we are not ready to meet he asking price.

6.) 19 Jul 2017 20:27:28
The United money men have their limits and rightly stick to it. Pep is playing a real life version of Football Manager at the moment and is yet to address the left back position and centre half.

7.) 19 Jul 2017 20:34:14
More to the point why buy a 2nd rb who can't defend for 26 mill after shelling out 55 mill for another rb who can't defend. What about their much vaunted academy if they wanted a bench sitter.

8.) 20 Jul 2017 09:22:13
The best right back to come through their academy is now first choice at Spurs and was sold for £3.5 million.

9.) 20 Jul 2017 13:25:35
Ken, you're right. After I posted I realised I hadn't checked whether his time at Real had co-incided with Mourinho's.

Nonetheless, because none of our wide players are natural wingers, I do think we need overlapping attacking fullbacks and both Walker and Danilo would fit the bill.

If we bring in a true defensive midfielder then I'm not so bothered about how well our fullbacks can defend, as long as they are good going forward.




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10 Nov 2017 08:57:31
I have a question for all of those who seem content with our current situation under Mourinho.

I'm talking to you Shan, DW20, Bolger, Eric79, Dodgy Banter, Mort, Danny Lancs among others.

Are you enjoying it?

1.) 10 Nov 2017 09:40:05
I would class myself as pro-Jose as well Manc Man. And I would agree with you that the current situation is not where I would like us to be but I think you seem to be very short sighted. For the last 4 years we have been utter dross and languishing outside the top 4. Football was atrocious and there looked like no way the club would be able to challenge in the near future. Jose has come in and won two trophies in his first season. Not the trophies we have traditionally been used to winning but a trophy is a trophy. It’s more than Liverpool and spurs have won in the last ten years. We are second in the league and yes I agree the football has been poor the last month or so. But we are set in a decent position to challenge and if we can put together a strong run in the form we were early on then it will be an enjoyable winter period. You make out that the situation is so much worse than it is. Only because city are playing champagne football is the reason why every other manager and fans at the top 6 clubs are unhappy. Whether we like it or not, we are no longer going to dominate the league like we did under Sir Alex. The other teams have all strenghtened in and brought in top managers as well. Our time of domination is over and that’s life. All good things come to an end but that does not mean we won’t challenge or win the league. I think we have to have a bit of perspective which has been lacking from people on this site the last week or so. We are not just going to jump from 6th to first smashing teams left right and centre. But we will challenge and I think we just have to be patient and see how the season pans out. Onto Jose, I am unhappy at these reports of him to PSG because it’s not great for the club having these rumours swirling around. But if he goes he goes. I am a fan but I am sure united will have a huge queue of managers eager to manage us. And if Jose where to leave, he would have left the club in a much better and stronger position than he inherited. And I think that should not be overlooked.

2.) 10 Nov 2017 09:45:50
I'm enjoying it manc. Not haopy with everything but I'm enjoying supporting the team as i always do. If you don't enjoy it them don't watch and come back when the board coach and players do everything you want. You will have a long wait. i'm assuming you have never coached at epl level or played or sat on the board of an epl football club or indeed don't have the qualifications or experience to get any of those roles.
What qualifies you to say they are all doing it wrong?

3.) 10 Nov 2017 10:02:38
Im enjoying it and ejoying Jose as our manager.

Its not perfect but as the season is at the moment i would have been very happy if this was offered to me last year.

4.) 10 Nov 2017 10:08:50
Current situation? We are second in the league, we have the second best goals for tally in the league, we have the best goals against tally in the league. We are seeing year on year improvement under Mourinho. What current situation? Some fans are just negative, I can see what Ed002 is talking about when referring to ‘toxics’.

5.) 10 Nov 2017 10:18:56
I wouldn't consider myself either pro or anti Mourinho. I respect what he has achieved and consider him to be a top manager, but at the same time I appreciate he has his flaws.

I am Pro-United.

Your question am I enjoying watching us at the moment?

Well that depends on which moment your talking about. In the first few weeks of the season I was very happy, We have suffered a dip recently but there are still moments of joy to be found. When we scored against Spurs last week I wasn't cursing that we scored, I jumped up and cheered.

In every season under every manager you have poor spells, that is the point of a season, it tests your ability to drag yourself through a long and arduous journey. It's a marathon not a sprint. Ask any runner if they enjoy hitting the wall? All will say its the hardest thing they have to get through, but surprisingly once your through it you get a second wind and a rush of joy for having battled through it.

I think a football season is the same thing, you need to battle through the tough times to enjoy the good times.

Clearly something isn't quite right with our manager at the moment. But that shouldn't stop us supporting him and the team. Maybe the best way to get the best out of someone who isn't feeling happy is to put an arm around them and cheer them on, give them a boost, make them feel loved and appreciated. Rather than booing or jeering. Put yourself in that position and ask which method would likely get the best out of you.

6.) 10 Nov 2017 10:22:48
Mancman - Yes I am. In my opinion we've played some good football this season. We've scored goals and in general been relatively entertaining. The injury to Pogba has curtailed this slightly and I expect us to improve
when he returns.

I think for Jose part he's at least attempted to play attacking football. He's persisted with Miki at 10 and is now playing Young at full back which is an attacking option. Moyes was a disaster and under LVG we played more passes in and around our own box than we did in the opposition's!

I accept he's been pragmatic in the big games but I think that's because he's hasn't built a team he's happy with yet. He's still building and only been in the job 18 months. We've already seen signs that he'll play more adventurous stuff when he gets in all the players he wants.

His signings have been good and the likes of Pogba, Matic and Bailly have improved our squad immeasurably. That trio would improve most teams in Europe in my opinion.

My view is Jose is one of the best in the business and when he eventually leaves we'll struggle to replace him and maybe only then will some fans truly appreciate him.

I'm absolutely convinced that given the time and full backing of the board to bring in the players he wants he'll have us fiercely competitive both at home and abroad in the very near future. I think he's doing a really good job and my message to some fans is be very careful what you wish for!

7.) 10 Nov 2017 11:19:33
I am. The reasons have been well listed by the people who replied before me.

8.) 10 Nov 2017 11:42:24
Yes. But not enjoyong the bitching and moaning 😂.

9.) 10 Nov 2017 12:24:50
Manc man good question.

Yes I'm enjoying the fact we are back in what they call "challenging" in a leauge which has had a different champion in the last 8 seasons.

We've got what I think the best team we've had in the last 5 years and look like were back competing for major honours.

It's no longer easy to predict the top 4. We have 6 very good teams all fighting and atm city are playing the best and give them credit they deserve to be out in front.

That's how hard it is to win the title.

I do agree that away from home against the big teams we are under performing.

But overall there's a long way to go I'm pleased with the way we have progressed and and please what Jose has done so far.

We have scored the 2nd most goals and conceded the least. We hard to beat and we won't lose many games.

We are better than last season.

I don't think we would be having this debate if city were not playing as well as they are.

But there you go that's my opinion.

10.) 10 Nov 2017 12:48:16
Valid points made by all I think 👍.

11.) 10 Nov 2017 18:48:39
Manc. I've enjoyed a couple of games. But the rest have been utter rubbish (Liverpool Chelsea Huddersfield both benfica games) . Have they got me on the edge of my seat or jumping up and down for joy at the shear genius of it? No way. We're playing boring predictable football and are being found out away from home against good opposition.

12.) 11 Nov 2017 08:22:56
I enjoyed winning the cup finals and I enjoy the fact I feel happier now we don’t have LVG or Moyes. I have confidence in our coach when I see him in the touch line.

For those calling out for Pep or Poch - they’ve won nothing here, which I am also enjoying.

We’ve had a tough month or so, have a few key injuries, and looking forward to seeing how we go for the remainder of the season.

I don’t love Jose’s moaning, but that’s who he is and we knew that. If he wants to leave in the summer as he hates Manchester life, I just hope we go for the right choice. Who they might be I have no idea.

13.) 11 Nov 2017 15:20:45
All I'll say is this. Compare now to Moyes then ask that question.



15 Oct 2017 12:47:03
Yesterdays game was a bit of a litmus test to give us some perspective as to the teams progression.

What we learnt is that we haven't really progressed very much and that we still have a long way to go before we can compete with the best teams in Europe.

I think our good start to the season has flattered to deceive

That's OK because I'll set myself to enjoy the ride as we build and develop a better squad.

I think yesterdays game was perfect for Zlatan who I expect would have imposed himself on Liverpool's centre halfs and would have given us a platform to play from.

I was expecially disappointed with Lukaku and Mikki yesterday. Lukaku looked like the lazy soft lad I feared he was. Granted he wasn't getting much service but that's when a top drawer centre forward needs to start putting himself about to make something happen.

I don't think Mikki is the answer at no 10 either; too anonomous in big games, especially those played at pace. There are better options and we should find one.

1.) 15 Oct 2017 13:27:35
Not sure how that game can be considered any sort of measure of how far we have progressed.

Some of Fergie's greatest teams got their pants pulled down at Anfield, by poorer Liverpool sides than the one we faced yesterday.

IMO, there has been a lot of improvement in all areas. Just my opinion of course.

2.) 15 Oct 2017 14:11:06
Dunno why Jose is getting all this stick in the press tbh, there was 2 chances in the whole game, 1 for each side, Liverpool was at home onus was on them and they did nothing, Klopp somehow has avoided stick yet Jose whose job it is to get a result did so and he’s anti football etc. nonsense for me.

3.) 15 Oct 2017 15:24:07
Its what jose does in big games away from home. No surprise there. i'm disappointed with the approach i think most fans would be.
I expect to see more attacking intent in the home fixtures against the other ' big 5'

4.) 15 Oct 2017 16:05:06
Not progressed? You're kidding right? We've been scoring goals for fun and only conceded 2 so far creating lots of chances. Yesterday was poor but to say we hav not progressed is ridiculous.

5.) 15 Oct 2017 16:05:35
i think the approach could have been different if the game came before the international break. we also struggled against Stoke after an international break and before a Champions League game so definitely lose some momentum when the international break comes.

6.) 15 Oct 2017 23:47:25
AJH, I said we haven't progressed very much. Sure, we are now better at taking care of the so called lesser teams but yesterday was our first big test of the season. Do you think Barca, Madrid or Munich would have been as woeful as we were yesterday? Do you think they would have looked at that Liverpool side and been as afraid as we were to try and beat them?



10 Oct 2017 20:03:34
Apart from Man Utd, what other teams do you support/ follow and why?

I have two:

AC Milan because my partner is from milan and her family support Milan. When I go to the San Siro I go in the curva with the ultras. It's an incredible experience unlike anything in the Premier League.

San Lorenzo was my team when I lived in Buenos Aires. San Lorenzo have the best songs including one to the tune of 'Despacito' which you can see here https:/ / www. youtube. com/ watch? v=XFZ2yPhqcHw being sung by the 'Popular' part of the stadium where I used to stand. The Pope supports San Lorenzo.

1.) 10 Oct 2017 20:25:30
Mines obviously United and Boca Juniors!

My wife is from Buenos Aires and I get to watch Boca when we visit her family! (Her Dad is season ticket holder)

Nothing can beat the atmosphere of la bombenera on a match day.

Very passionate fans over their and will be a shame if Argentina don’t qualify for the World Cup later this evening.

2.) 11 Oct 2017 00:39:58
Can homnstly say i only support UTD.

But port vale are my most local team do i like to see them do well.

3.) 11 Oct 2017 08:35:50
Boca Utd; you're lucky to be a regular visitor to Buenos Aires (what a city! ) and have such easy access to la bombenera; tickets are hard/ expensive to come by.

Most of my friends in Buenos Aires support Boca but I wanted to follow a team where I could go to the games and a different match day experience from Old Trafford.

San Lorenzo are towards the top end of the Primera Division (currently 7th) and this year reached the quarter finals of the Copa Libertadores. However, the stadium and quality of football is more Division 1 than EPL. Also, even though Buenos Aires is not a cheap city, it cost £10 a month membership for free admission to the standing section for all league games.

4.) 11 Oct 2017 08:42:20
United, Wrexham, FC United, Cardiff are the only teams I follow.

5.) 11 Oct 2017 09:14:50
United and PSG.

6.) 11 Oct 2017 09:45:36
I don't have any team I support other than United. I do have a few teams I have a soft spot for though.

Juventus being the main one, I grew up watching a lot of Serie A, and at that time Juventus stood out as the entertainers of Italian football. Players such as Zidane, Nedved and Del Piero. These were players I idolised and therefore I still have a soft spot for Juventus.

I also have vivid memories of watching LvG's Ajax side play amazing football on their way to winning the UCL, I loved their style and swagger with such a young side.

Athletic Bilbao are a team I admire for no reason other than their steadfast belief in using local players. They don't want to win if it means disregarding their history and I admire that. Principals over success. It's a refreshing thing to see these days.

Although other than United Juventus are the only team I try and watch it possible.

7.) 11 Oct 2017 09:46:19
Red Star Belgrade
Real Madrid because of all the utd players that went there and because I can't support Barca.

8.) 11 Oct 2017 10:08:43
I don't support other teams but I keep my eye on Reading as that is where my wife is from and I've been a few times, and I also have a soft spot for Villa from when they got promoted with us in '75.

9.) 11 Oct 2017 11:16:00
United, cork city, Celtic, I enjoy watching all the championship sides when they come up, there always seems to be a tenacity and desire you don't see in established premier league sides and who doesn't love an underdog.

10.) 11 Oct 2017 12:03:46
Real Madrid because of the brazilian Ronaldo.

11.) 11 Oct 2017 14:16:25
IFK Gothenburg. My second home. A little love for Weymouth fc as i used to play for them. Juventud and A. c. Milan as I had the shirts in the 80's / early 90's.

12.) 11 Oct 2017 14:50:45
Luton town as they are my local team and my uncles are both season ticket holders so have been to watch them more times than i can remember good day out.

13.) 11 Oct 2017 15:56:34
With you there Danny. Luton lad myself. Some great days home and away especially about 2002 time.

14.) 12 Oct 2017 01:23:46
Danny, I always had a soft spot for Luton. My cousin, Stephen Robinson, now manager of Motherwell, used to play for them years ago, so we all adopted the team.

Aberdeen are my second team, tho. Started following them in the Fergie years, because everyone at home was either Rangers or Celtic, and I was always an awkward wee bugger. They turned out not too bad in the end. Then went to Uni there, partly so I could see them most weeks - Manchester didn't do my course unfortunately.

Having said that, I was taken to OT for the first time, at 6 years of age, and met one of my heroes Micky Thomas, just hanging around outside the stadium. Guy was a gentleman to me, so there's only one team really.

15.) 12 Oct 2017 08:03:15
Stephen Robinson from Northen Ireland Nou? If so, a quality player for Luton. Great attacking cm and a legend for the goal past the scousers in that epic game.

My cousin is manager of Dundee! But apart from Celtic I don't follow Sunday league football. Lol.

16.) 12 Oct 2017 10:13:17
Lots of good responses here; thanks very much. Football tends to reflect life and brings people together so it's interesting to see what a varied, international bunch we all are.

A couple of lines really stood out such as Mickey Thomas "just hanging around outside the stadium" at OT. what? and LvG's Ajax side "playing amazing football". which seems incredible after our experience of the worst football ever under LvG.

17.) 12 Oct 2017 17:14:24
Milan in the early 90s because of all the great players they had. Always had a soft spot for them, especially Maldini. Shame they have fallen so low now.

Real Madrid in the late 90s because of Raul, Hierro and Suker, and Championship Manager. Can't stand them now because of all the shady things they've done.

But my first love for whom I still hold a candle is La Viola. When Football Italia was on the telly when I was young, Batigol was everything. And I fell in love with the purple strip too. I even supported Roma the year they won because he moved there.

18.) 12 Oct 2017 21:10:53
He was with one of the Greenhoff brothers (my memory's letting me down these days), on the Friday before the match, just chewing the fat and signing autographs for kids like me. Not a security guard in sight. I think my mum still has my Utd autograph book in her attic. Good thread.

19.) 12 Oct 2017 21:12:32
That's the fella, James. I know he was very popular down there.



18 Sep 2017 19:02:43
I was thinking about City's team selection against Watford and how that would translate with our own squad.

Pep picked a midfield of Ferdandinho, Silva and de Bruyne. The front line was Jesus, Aguero and Sterling. City were the away team!

To my mind that would be like a Utd front six of Pogba, Mata and Mikki in midfield with Martial, Lukkaku and Rashford up front; Wow!

Would people like to see a similar approach at Utd against the so called lesser teams? I would, especially at home.

1.) 18 Sep 2017 19:47:16
Pogba would not be suited to that, he dosent have the discipline to do what Fernandinho does and he's too good to sit on the bench.

2.) 18 Sep 2017 21:02:58
Fernandinho is a sitting type of player just like Matic. I've also noticed that Matic does get forward when he gets a chance.

3.) 18 Sep 2017 21:48:22
At the moment Pogba isn't available. Even if you substitute Matic for Pogba in that line up it's still really creative and full of goals.

Pep even plays with attack minded full backs as well. I think he might be the new Kevin Keegan.

4.) 19 Sep 2017 04:53:10
MancMan, no! the correct "like for like" setup for Man utd would be in Midfield "Matic, Pogba and Miki and in attack "lukaku, Rash, mata/ martial" Matic being the fernandinho, Pogba now begining to express himself more will be our silva and miki is kdb as simple as that.

Forwards, are self explanatory.

Now in all fairness to Jose, that's the team he has been putting out anyway in the premier league and while mata ain't sterling and lukaku isn't quite where aguero is (although not for long i hope), the signs are there for all to see and some the plays this season have given me a lot of optimism.

I don't blame you for getting a bit worried with the noisy neighbors and i'll advise you not to because city's got a lot of problems of their own. I'd suggest, humbly, to enjoy, panic, yell, gasp and then enjoy some more the roller-coaster greatness on display at Old Trafford.

5.) 19 Sep 2017 08:27:04
Raconteur, I'm not worried about City; I'm just admiring their self belief and resulting team choices. Playing Silva and De Bruyne as central midfielders along with full backs who attack is highly unusual. I can't think of any other teams whose line up is so offensive. Obviously it moves the emphasis away from their weaknesses in defence.

I'll accept that Ferdandinho is more like Matic but Mata is definately a more similar player to Silva than Pogba and Rashford compares to Sterling.

I don't believe they will line up like that against stronger teams but it's good for football that they are prepared to put so much attacking talent on the pitch all at once. The derby is a long way off yet so let's see how it continues to work out for them.

6.) 19 Sep 2017 10:33:50
Is it down to a lack of central midfielders of the required quality though manc why he's setting up this way, yaya has been frozen out, gundagon is another Hargreaves. He's not exactly littered with options in the middle of the park. Jose has got this bang on, addressed the spine first and foremost in the previous windows, in the next two windows he will add the final pieces of the jigsaw and I think we are a force to be reckoned with in all competitions.

7.) 19 Sep 2017 11:00:01
aah I see your point now Mancman. I agree.

stretfordender I agree with you too.



19 Jul 2017 14:14:31
We've currently got 6 specialist central defenders in the squad (Smalling, Jones, Tunazebe, Bailly, Lindelof, Rojo) plus Blind. We also have TFM, Darmian and even Carrick who can cover the position.

Maybe we will continue from last season and play a back six but I reckon at least one defender will be on their way out.

My guess is it will be either Smalling or Jones and out of the two I'd prefer to keep Jones.

The squad has a really strange balance at the moment and I think it's because Jose is seeing who he can and cannot bring in before he starts selling.

With all the crazy prices ATM I'll be very interested to see how much we get for our out going players. £40 million for Smalling anyone?

1.) 19 Jul 2017 17:18:54
I can see one of them going out on a loan towards the end of the window. I wouldn't be surprised if there's already been a couple of tentative approaches.

2.) 19 Jul 2017 18:38:29
I can't see a loan happening although I'm sure you are right about there being enquiries for both.

3.) 19 Jul 2017 22:11:06
Jones a central defence specialist? The only things he's a specialist in is gurning and getting injured. I would personally sell Jones and keep Smalling as back up.




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27 Dec 2017 18:11:32
I'm currently near Turin and my friend here who is a Juve fan tells me there are strong rumours he is going to City.



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30 Oct 2017 17:05:12
Maybe not Ed002 but it is a rumours page. You might not like to gossip but have you heard any rumours about why Shaw needs to move on?

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20 Jul 2017 13:25:35
Ken, you're right. After I posted I realised I hadn't checked whether his time at Real had co-incided with Mourinho's.

Nonetheless, because none of our wide players are natural wingers, I do think we need overlapping attacking fullbacks and both Walker and Danilo would fit the bill.

If we bring in a true defensive midfielder then I'm not so bothered about how well our fullbacks can defend, as long as they are good going forward.



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19 Jul 2017 05:06:38
What Shappy said!

Romero is class and I thought so from the his first game at OT.

C'mon Wazza tell us who we can sign who is better. We're waiting!



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17 Jul 2017 22:36:41
I'd buy both Kroos and Matic then sell Fellaini.

That would be a massive upgrade to the squad.




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05 Jan 2018 09:21:01
I'd go for the good football over the trophies.

Most of all I'd settle for getting rid of Jose's negativity both on and off the pitch. What a boring man he is.



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04 Jan 2018 02:22:40
I think Ancellotti would be the perfect fit for us right now. He's got the gravitas, personality and attacking football philosophy which is a good match for Utd.

He's also flexible with his approach to get the best out of the players he has available. He's not dogmatic about formations and tactics.

I just think he could handle the job and would bring some much needed positivity to Manchester United.



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03 Jan 2018 17:06:52
I think you are leaving this too much to chance or the whim of Mourinho. I think the club should take control of the situation by starting to look for a replacement and then ask Jose to leave at the end of the season.

He obviously doesn't want to be at Utd and like you say he's not a good fit, so why prolong the pain for him and us?

A DoF should have been appointed years ago.



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27 Dec 2017 23:07:07
Absolute crap redman. Jose is underperforming. He doesn't give a toss about man utd and is failing to deliver as a manager. Sean Dyche has Burnley in 7th position in the Premier league. Now that's what's called management.