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15 Sep 2020 16:45:01
A mate who works in finance is trying to convince me that the Saudi Royal family only bid for Newcastle to test the water with the UK Government and the Premier League and that they are only interested in Manchester United.
I at first said bull##it but after he went into everything including the excuse the Premier League gave and Ashleys threat it got me thinking.
Am i right in thinking they bid for Man Utd in the past and that the Glazer family said 2 billion and its yours.
1.) 15 Sep 2020 18:22:45
If they offered 2 billion then fair enough. Would not want them close to United. rubbish family with a bad regime.
2.) 15 Sep 2020 18:36:31
I thought they valued the club at £4billion mate?
3.) 15 Sep 2020 18:56:11
Think it will cost more than £2 billion to buy United, remember MBS was rumoured to have had an offer of £3.5 billion turned down a few years ago.
We have long standing commercial deals through Saudi Telecom and signed a partnership with GSA back in 2017 to develop football in Saudi and I think that is as far as MBS wanted to go.
4.) 15 Sep 2020 18:12:40
Either way I'm delighted the Premier League told the murderous barstewards to do one.
08 Aug 2019 16:03:17
It looks like were done so for the last hours can we please have some "My mates window cleaner said that. " transfer rumours. There had hardly been any 😄😄.
1.) 08 Aug 2019 17:22:27
Yep done! I just don’t get it. Top class midfielder needed even before herrara left and no one in. Is it any wonder pogba wants to leave? You could line up with static matic, perreria and mc tominay or you could line up with modric, kroos, Isco etc. Also losing a 20 goal a year striker, not replacing him and relying on a 17 year old kid to fill his boots is risky to say the least. Anyway at least we will only lose 1 nil every week with old slab head at the back from now on! 😂.
2.) 08 Aug 2019 17:27:55
So, we didn't get a midfielder. I hope Angel Gomes will be given a chance behind the striker. I think if we play 4-2-3-1 he should be picked up before Mata and Lingard.
3.) 08 Aug 2019 17:49:28
Gomes played well in the friendlies he should be given a chance but I don't think so straight away. I also think chong should be given time aswell he played well. I think tho matic will start against Chelsea hope he doesn't slows the game down way to much but we will see on Sunday. looking forward to the 1st game hope the quick attacking carries on. beer will be in fridge ready for k. o on sun 😎😎😎😎😎.
4.) 08 Aug 2019 18:47:17
Ziko I posted something similar ðŸ‘.
5.) 08 Aug 2019 18:39:20
Exactly right Ziko play the kids now instead of the same rubbish we have seen for 4 years like Mata and Lingard.
6.) 08 Aug 2019 18:56:25
My biggest question of the transfer window - what was Bruno Fernandes crying for!?
7.) 08 Aug 2019 19:05:01
Well in the last game they lost 5-0.
8.) 08 Aug 2019 19:42:50
Cheers, lads, see you all in January. I'm sure we'll start strong, be close to the top, then get Bruno, Dybala, Mandzukic and Eriksen and of course the title is ours! Wish you all well #GGMU.
31 Jul 2019 22:34:37
Pogba has fallen out with Lukaku that why big Rom wants out . Dybala was Pogbas best mate at Juve so that's see what happens in the next couple of days. If Dybala signs then Pogbas here to stay i'd say . What a foward line 😃😃.
1.) 31 Jul 2019 22:46:31
Yh i'm sure lukaku doesn't want out because he is one of the best goalscorers in the world, belgiums all time scorer and will be playing second fiddle to rashford or martial next season.
No its because him and pogba had a tiff. This isn't love island.
2.) 01 Aug 2019 00:03:28
Dybala doesn't want to come that's as plain as day he's getting booted out of juventus we need to stay well clear of this and stop wasting valuable time and get the Maguire and fernandes deals done let dybala stay where he's not wanted he'll regret if before we do,
3.) 01 Aug 2019 01:33:21
I assume you’re big pals with Dybala Scott and have spoken to him about whether he wants to come? Or maybe you’re just being negative (again) for the sake of it.
4.) 01 Aug 2019 05:12:52
Come on bfro seriously?
and lol GDS2, perfect reply.
5.) 01 Aug 2019 09:23:44
Yes it's true Scottronaldo73 doesn't know if Dybala wants to come to United.
What is worrying is that i am now hearing 350,000 a week being banded about by various news sources which i know are not reliable. Imagine if Scottronaldo73 is correct and we are stuck with another Sanchez for the next 4 seasons.
It's a massive gamble, are we going down the same road as Di Maria. If Dybala says he doesn't fancy it we should pull out straight away and not waste any more time on it.
Get the Bruno and Maguire transfers over the line and make them a priority.
6.) 01 Aug 2019 10:12:06
If dybdla is so against joining us why even entertain the idea of negotiating with us, just a straight no would of happened surely.
7.) 01 Aug 2019 10:36:11
I think if Dybala comes that is a strong indication that Pogba will give us another year (No guarantee as RM could come in with a huge offer)
I think Dybala would mean he stays for 1 more year. I think looking at him in matches, what you read recently, he is happier than he has been in years at the club. That said i think he still ultimately wants RM but with the spending they have made this year maybe realises it might not happen this year.
Think it will be a long week with rumours until the window shuts.
8.) 01 Aug 2019 11:00:21
discountdave. Dybala has been on holiday, today is his first day back at Juve where he is going to discuss his options. All the negotiating has been done by Juve, Man U and Dybala's agent. If you read up on it the whole deal depends on whether Dybala wants the move or not.
9.) 01 Aug 2019 12:07:06
Exactly Simon it just has di maria mark 2 written all over it if he comes its only for money we've got enough mercenaries at the club don't need another one.
We have been after Maguire and fernandes deals all summer they should be the priority dybalas not essential they are then deal with lukaku not the other way around.
06 Aug 2018 11:49:19
The Boeteng link is false. United trying to land Javi Martinez who is a more suitable Jose type player (£40mill) 😆😆.
1.) 07 Aug 2018 12:14:15
Javi Martinez is a ball playing center back and that is not Joses prefered type of player.
2.) 07 Aug 2018 13:26:14
Lindelof and Toby are both ball playing centrebacks.
3.) 07 Aug 2018 13:36:00
Javi Martinez is center midfielder.
4.) 07 Aug 2018 14:11:55
I don't want to go anywhere near Boateng, he is useless and just as injury prone as jones, Rojo and even Bailly.
We need a leader with experience, but they need to be robust/ able to stay fit.
5.) 07 Aug 2018 23:33:35
Both crap! Haha I’ll be gutted if we get either.
22 Jul 2018 16:04:14
Looks like Maguire could be arriving this week. A lot of outlets all saying the same £65mill. We will have to wait and see😆😆.
1.) 22 Jul 2018 17:12:01
It's only the daily mail reporting this.
2.) 22 Jul 2018 17:20:06
Also Star Express MEN and all over the net . Also here in Spain 😆😆.
3.) 22 Jul 2018 17:28:51
There's been some hysteria on the site about the club falling behind or going in the wrong direction which I personally don't think is correct. However, signing Harry Maguire for £65m would be one of the most personic things I'd have ever seen in football.
4.) 22 Jul 2018 20:08:04
Personic, do you mean moronic? In which case I wholeheartedly agree!
5.) 22 Jul 2018 20:32:51
some reports saying he would only come in if one of Rojo, Smalling or BAILLY is sold -now that would be moronic . he is our best CH.
6.) 22 Jul 2018 21:11:06
At least he can head the ball in set balls. I don't care what are fees and if it means one of Smalling/ Jones is gone.
7.) 22 Jul 2018 21:12:58
do not see why we want another centre back victor showed for sweeden how good he can be him an baily could be the heart of our defence for years.
8.) 22 Jul 2018 21:13:48
Rj in today's market that is prob a good price
Especially how good at the world cup he's just performed.
I don't understand this site sometimes
People cry out to make signings then change there mind when they hear a figure.
25 million players don't go for that anymore football has evolved in 5 years time you will prob see the very best go for 500 million.
9.) 22 Jul 2018 21:19:39
Rojo singed a new contract 2 month ago.
10.) 22 Jul 2018 21:47:00
Maguire is average at best. What’s hard to understand about that? £65m for him? Football, bloody hell as our former esteemed manager once famously said.
Lindelof has a fabulous world cup why not give him a go?
11.) 22 Jul 2018 22:00:52
I'm not a huge fan of Maguire. In my opinion Alfie Mawson is a better left footed, English, ball playing centre back. The only thing Maguire does better is get his head on the ball. However, some of his headed clearance leave a lot to be desired. He also has a tendency to wander off and leave the backdoor open.
Maguire is a player who needs to play in a back three. Lindelof, Bailly and Maguire could be solid. However, I would still prefer Mawson at half the cost if we had to sign an English centre back.
Personally I work rather not sign anyone and give Tuanzebe and Lindelof a chance to seal a spot along side Bailly.
12.) 23 Jul 2018 06:50:43
I don’t see how Maguire is a huge step up from Smalling and Jones!
{Ed001's Note - did you need the word huge in there?}
13.) 23 Jul 2018 06:53:28
It's not so much the fee for an individual (which I think would be a World record for a cb? ) that is the issue for me even though that is about 4 times what Maguire should actually be priced at. It's taking a huge amount of money which could impact signing others which would be the worry. Also that we would even think about signing him would be amassive concern.
He is an average CB who has developed a far larger than average head. He isn't actually very good at bringing the ball out from the back. He tends to run into space in front of him, 50% of the time just punting into the vague direction of a teammate, not actually passing to them. We have Chris Smalling who can do that and a lot of people on this site (me included) think we need an upgrade on him.
Just because the media have a semi for Maguire at the moment doesn't mean he's any better than he actually is. Surely people can see the likes of Alderweireld, Varane, Gimenez, Bonucci etc who we have been linked with are all far better than Maguire?
{Ed001's Note - it is less than Van Dijk went for in January.}
14.) 23 Jul 2018 07:27:30
So it is ed. Completely forgot about Van Dijk.
15.) 23 Jul 2018 11:27:08
Would Varane cost much more? Ten times the player.
16.) 23 Jul 2018 12:45:26
Would you blame them if they said 65 for Maguire, 75 for van dijk ok varane is 150.
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06 Oct 2020 10:17:17
I thought we were interested in Joe Rodon at Swansea before lockdown . Now that Smalling has departed do you think we may look at him again. I know Spurs have an interest but it would be nice to get one over Jose ðŸ˜ðŸ˜.
{Ed002's Note - No.}
1.) 06 Oct 2020 10:40:14
We can't do it on the pitch so let's buy his targets eh.
2.) 06 Oct 2020 11:24:35
ExFZZ
Your confused he is interested in our target not us after his. 🤣🤣.
3.) 06 Oct 2020 11:56:59
Maguire and Bruno Fernandes say hi. 🤣🤣.
4.) 06 Oct 2020 14:05:36
Hi H
Hi Bruno
🤣🤣.
11 May 2020 16:03:21
I think the Government has probably just announced that the Premier league will be scrapped putting an impossible deadline in place even before players have been tested. 😷😷.
{Ed002's Note - What?}
1.) 11 May 2020 17:24:23
Which government? The British government certainly haven’t done such a thing.
01 May 2020 16:48:46
See the FA are again sitting back and letting another week go by without scrapping the League. Lots of teams will be lost because of the uncertainty and i mean Premier league teams could be in real trouble if things don't change quickly. I think it was GDS2 who stated that English football has never been played in wartime-this is no different possibly worst. Football should only be considered after the figures are extremely low. You can't play football in a face mask . The government are again not telling the people everything 😷😷.
{Ed002's Note - It is nothing to do with The FA. The Premier League were never going to scrap the league today - next week perhaps assuming the lockdown is extended.}
1.) 01 May 2020 22:33:57
Ed002 do you have any idea on what model the Premier league might follow? I know it's hard to predict but do u think the results will stand as they are? (e. g ligue 1) or the season declared void? (e. g eredivisie) .
Thanks.
{Ed002's Note - There are options but they are not addressing the matter at this time.}
2.) 02 May 2020 00:04:13
Thanks ed002. Lots of decisions to be made, no matter what the outcome there will be disappointed parties.
{Ed002's Note - Unfortunately there will be I think.}
3.) 02 May 2020 12:03:43
This week Germany have started training for a reported restart of their leagues later in May. I just read that some teams are already reporting Covid 19 cases. Spain are looking like they will scrap theirs after players are refusing . There isn't a case to restart the Premier league whilst daily cases are so high these meetings are all about money . They don't care about the deaths or they would be informing the Government when they think its right to restart not the other way 😷😷.
4.) 02 May 2020 17:20:07
It's the smaller teams that worry me, they rely on match day revenue to survive. Hopefully the Premier league clubs will help them out financially but I wouldn't count on it.
17 Apr 2020 12:22:10
Finishing the season won't happen if the latest scientific report is anything to go by. There is no way any medical personnel can be spared at grounds so the FA can finish the season their expertise is needed elsewhere also i heard that Sky and BT will not be looking into recouping any money owed due to not completing all fixtures . #staysafe😷😷.
{Ed002's Note - Regardless of what the Premier League say this afternoon (they could just go through the motions and say "intent is to finish" (which it is of course), "need to assess the logistics" (the June 30 issue - which is easily fixed), "can't put a start on when training could start and matches begin", "still looking at options to play games behind closed doors" etc., I very much suspect the season is now done. The RFEF in Spain have announced the major part of their solution (La Liga has one major issue with it (to do with games restarting and stopping again) but have not really addressed the promotion/relegation issue (they have what they think is the answer but have yet to consult I understand - which oddly enough has never stopped them in the past). There has been a significant backlash in Germany to the proposals to start as soon as they can behind closed doors. The position in Italy is clear, the major clubs want a cut off. This afternoon it is likely that nine or ten PL sides will push a motion and ask for a vote to end the season now (they are not going to propose how that happens as they see that as a specific issue).
1.) 17 Apr 2020 13:47:10
Thanks for the info Ed, very informative.
Impossible to answer probably How but how long can will the premier league wait before voting on ending the season as I imagine how it ends may be a lengthy process in itself. Also, will they let fans know the decision has been made to end the season before they know the details on how to end it?
Thanks Ed.
{Ed002's Note - It is difficult to say but with 9 or 10 clubs looking to end the season now it will not be too long down the road - although they are pushing for a vote now. It would be a reasoned argument to say when the "lockdown" is considered again in 3 weeks that might be a backstop.}
2.) 17 Apr 2020 16:44:41
Speaking purely from someone who works closely with the Government. I would astonished if the season were to be scrapped. There are far bigger issues at play in the UK. Its not a football or even a commercially driven decision.
{Ed002's Note - I don't know what you mean by "scrapped"; nor why you mention the Government or "bigger issues", or you last sentence which makes no sense at all. I am assuming you don't understand any of this.}
3.) 17 Apr 2020 17:20:46
CheshireRed is right. The Aliens out in Sector 7 aren't happy that season has stopped. After the unmitigated disaster that was the Game of thrones finale, we can't upset them again. As is common knowledge in the government, all Aliens support Liverpool.
4.) 17 Apr 2020 17:26:13
I would have thought with the extension of the government furlough scheme until the end of June I doubt the lockdown will be lifted much before the end of June.
We are all football fans and we would all like to see the return of the game. But there are far bigger issues at play here. I have serious doubts that the league will be finished sadly. We can't risk lives for the sake of a game.
5.) 17 Apr 2020 17:29:56
Love it Mumbles.
6.) 17 Apr 2020 17:43:45
My father used to follow the Busby Babes and told me all about them including when United almost decided to continue as a club after the crash. I also read that Liverpool almost did the same after Hillsborough.
These are worrying times and to think anybody can think of wanting to put more people at risk of this terrible virus is also extremely worrying because that's what it means to arrange these outstanding fixtures.
Liverpool have romped the league this season but if Klopp came out and said "Scrap this season . People need to be safe. We will win it next time" not only would it help the FA in drawing a line under everything but worldwide people will have total respect for his decision. 😷😷.
7.) 17 Apr 2020 17:56:50
Mumbles been playing a remake I see.
8.) 17 Apr 2020 18:43:42
I think it could be a long time before fans are going to games to watch a football match.
9.) 17 Apr 2020 17:14:01
Ed if the season was suspended now and ended which is probably the right decision with how life is atm. How would you expect europe and relegation be handled? I know a while back they said same teams in europe as this season but i'm sure teams won't be pleased with that scenario.
{Ed002's Note - There is no suggestion to simply void the season on the table. And I think it unlikely that anyone will look to go down that route.
Spain (RFEF) have decided that they will end the season, if the games cannot all be completed (whether they restart or not), by drawing a line across now, not awarding the title, and settling European places based on current positions (with the exception of the Copa del Rey place which if played will go to the winners else to Athletic Bilbao if it can't). The critical point is that if the season restarts but cannot be completed, the results revert to the standings at the start of the suspension - and the results of the games played after the restart would be voided - this is controversial as far as La Liga are concerned and they have a counter proposal that says if the games restart and then stop, those positions when it stops for a second time should stand. But the decision belongs to RFEF and typically they would overrule La Liga. Whilst they want to complete the league, they too are going to draw a June 30 line across if the games cannot start on May 28 and complete by then – although they have proposed a back stop of the end of July (but nobody wants to use it and clubs don’t wish to exercise it). They have not addressed promotion and relegation completely at this time but seem open to the two up/none down principle as others are considering.
The "Bundesliga" plan if they cannot complete the season: draw a line across; no champions; European places on current standings; top two promoted down through the leagues; no relegation this season but addition one relagated next two seasons. The approach has a lot of support.
Scotland have used the threat based model - vote for what we say and we will give you money to help you stay in business.
Belgium has gone roughly down the "Bundesliga" approach but have assigned Champions (there was a lead that could not be caught but play offs were wiped out - so Club Brugge are champions and all of the other sides agreed. This was driven by the simple desire that it could not all be completed by June 30 based on advice.
The PL is aware of all of this and if needs be will need to be bold and come up with a plan. My expectation is it will follow the "Bundesliga" approach.}
10.) 17 Apr 2020 17:51:37
Thanks Ed.
{Ed002's Note - You are welcome.}
11.) 17 Apr 2020 19:15:44
I don't think there's many football fans who want the football to return while putting peoples health at risk. I think it's a barometer for people to judge when we might come out the other side of this. If football is gearing up to come back then we can see the finish line and it gives people hope. Right now the finish line keeps getting moved further and further back.
12.) 17 Apr 2020 19:26:13
Thanks ed great info as always. Stay safe ðŸ‘ðŸ».
{Ed002's Note - You are welcome.}
13.) 18 Apr 2020 10:09:35
If the premier league takes the same approach as the Bundesliga then we should all take the time to visit the Liverpool pages and thank them for their participation in the league this year.
14.) 18 Apr 2020 15:22:25
I think we need to be a little more gracious than that.
While part of me would find it funny that Liverpool were denied the title after a 30 year wait, we have to remember that they would have been denied that by a national tragedy that has already takes thousands of lives.
There is no humour here. And if we are honest Liverpool deserve the title. Let's not lose our humanity.
{Ed004's Note - I agree Shappy. I'll not be going out of my way to get reactions from Liverpool fans. I will probably joke about it with them when the pubs finally open but not at this moment in time when its a fresh wound}
15.) 18 Apr 2020 17:50:30
Fair play shappy, I'm fully expecting, if we don't win the title, a barrage of jokes and memes of how we have been denied again and we are never going to win etc. But all the majority care about right now is that we get through this with as many as possible with their health in place. If we get that sorted the rest will fall into place.
16.) 18 Apr 2020 16:42:26
Ed004, with friends or face to face in a few months time I will probably joke and banter about it.
I'm not sure a web page is the place to do that. We don't know who is reading and who they may have lost due to this tragedy. My heart goes out to all those people suffering and now is not the time to gloat callously at disappointed Liverpool fans.
{Ed004's Note - Agreed Shappy}
17.) 19 Apr 2020 00:38:25
Oh jeez. Shappy, Ed004. Despite the virus life does go on and every Mancunian I know, red and blue, is delighted that Liverpool will not be winning the league again.
Personally I'm thrilled and I refuse to see everything through a corona shaped prism.
Liverpool aren't going to win the league again. Woohoo!
{Ed004's Note - Don't get me wrong. I'll be delighted if they do not get the title (still think they will) and will enjoy it immensely when out with Liverpool friends in real life. I just wouldn't take enjoyment out of winding up the Liverpool fans immediately on the other sites}
16 Jan 2020 22:02:28
Message to the money men at Old Trafford. For Gods Sake pay the money for Bruno . We have just got almost 200k a week of the wage bill with Young leaving. Get the deal done we have so many injuries and players missing the squad looks tired and there is still a load of games to play.
1.) 16 Jan 2020 22:11:22
Chill out mate.
2.) 16 Jan 2020 23:53:14
I do t see bruno or maddison I the same team .
Should we buy bruno now or wait for maddison in the summer.
3.) 17 Jan 2020 04:49:09
Not sure Jred. We need a more productive midfield now. Also, I struggle to see us getting Maddison. But if it was a guaranteed choice, personally I would wait. Or better still, get a better CM passer/ tackler and then add Maddison in the summer.
4.) 17 Jan 2020 07:07:30
I think Bruno is a no brainer.
He can play both no 8 as well as no 10.
Very good passer and scores goals from midfield, good from set pieces.
Exactly what we are lacking at the moment.
Additionally, he is the captain of Sporting Lisbon. Our squad needs leaders and he will supposedly be one of them.
5.) 17 Jan 2020 08:25:36
I can easily see Bruno and Maddison in the same team.
City play De Bruyne, David Silva and Bernardo Silva at the same times on occasions.
If we invest in a good defensive midfielder we could easily fit both into a 3 man midfield, or even push Bruno higher up as one of the forwards.
More creativity the better.
6.) 17 Jan 2020 10:30:16
Bruno, Mctominy, Fred, new HM, Madison/ or other AM
This for me once Pogba leaves will give us a strong midfield with flex and rotation. With youth coming through.
This could actually become a strength position if the club get it right.
Pogba will cover cost of Bruno +1 so won't actually cost too much.
Pogba being out has shown the club it can let him go and be okay.
7.) 17 Jan 2020 17:37:41
Why do you not think they could not play in the same team jred?
I suppose it would depend on the formation i think both of them in the same team might leave us a bit exposed but city play with a very lightweight midfield defencively so it can be done with the right blend of players and tactics.
8.) 17 Jan 2020 17:37:41
Why do you not think they could not play in the same team jred?
I suppose it would depend on the formation i think both of them in the same team might leave us a bit exposed but city play with a very lightweight midfield defencively so it can be done with the right blend of players and tactics.
01 Feb 2020 22:24:53
He's the same manager now making panic signings. He messed up big time . The guy has no idea . Do you think Jose would of made the same mistake. no he wouldnt. 😱😱.
01 Feb 2020 09:24:29
Hes gone anyway after letting Lukaku go and not buying then . Messed the whole season up 😂😂.
30 Jan 2020 11:59:48
"Had my sporting tracksuit on all day"WTF 🤔🤔.
09 Nov 2019 21:31:26
Sandro Tonali at Brescia should be signed asap.
23 Oct 2019 16:34:53
Utd is all ready in the process of being sold . Its been going on for months . The glazers will not have the club in 2020 either a Middle Eastern set up or a Chinese mega deal will be running it. Heard it from a city trader in July . I saw it as bs but now i'm begining to believe everything might come true😀😀.
23 Nov 2021 10:01:53
If it doesn't . i'd get Keane in until they get someone else. CARRICK is a yes man and an Ole clone. The club is so low at the minute.
08 Nov 2021 14:16:10
Last season Shaw and Maguire were the best in the Prem now because of poor defensive coaching they look like different players . I've said on discussion page that Jose would coach and win the prem with this squad without a dought. Always has a plan b unlike OGS.
08 Nov 2021 12:44:26
We have one of the best squads in football just one of the worst coaching team. They will recoup every dollar when they sell. I think they may sell in the spring of 2022 that's why Ronaldo was signed to keep stock high (also to stop Citie getting him) ??.
26 Nov 2020 18:15:15
One of the greatest games in the Stretford end that night against Barcelona . Big Ron's finest moment ðŸ˜ðŸ˜.
25 Nov 2020 09:31:09
Who cares if Martial doesn't like it there are 20 strikers in world football better than him ðŸ˜ðŸ˜.