22 Jan 2025 08:56:40
Garnacho to napoli looking a real possibility now. Very much doubt we would sell to Chelsea.
22 Jan 2025 10:37:03
If it does happen, we need to be holding out for at least 70 mill, after what we paid for Hoijlund maybe more. Personally I hope it doesn't, as for me he is far down the list of players that add no value to the team. Equally though I understand we need money in to facilitate Amorims team build and unfortunately others aren't seeing value in Rashford.
22 Jan 2025 10:50:06
Not sure how I feel about this. Disappointing for me IMO. Could be a romantic view but I really think he has enough about him to crack on. But if it's what RA wants, well then who am I to argue.
22 Jan 2025 11:37:34
It is dissapointing from the perspective of him being a youngster that we have nurtured all be it we brought him in from Athletico. Also, the talent is there and we have seen this sporadically over the past 18 months. However, there is also a view that like Rashford he is more of a highlights reel player and the overall impact in the game is not as great. Add this to the thought that he does not fit the 343 system and it might be right to maximise his value and sell.
Personally would prefer that be to Napoli than Chelsea and it sounds like he is open/ keen on that move. If we can get anything close to £50/ 55m the it will be too good to turn down, earlier in the window I had viewed him more £40m but with some of the sales including Kvaratskhelia from Napoli likely it will need to be more for us to sell.
It will be interesting what we do if he leaves, Antony already gone on loan and Rashford likely by end of the window. Hopefully there are some deals being worked on for incomings whether on loan or permanent.
22 Jan 2025 12:44:27
He really isn’t that good, £50m in full profit will allow us to buy 2 or 3 players that improve the squad, can see why the club are open to it. Amorim dropped Garna and Rashford for the derby to give them a kick
Up the arse and both of them have shown they aren’t up for the fight.
22 Jan 2025 13:41:30
Napoli will not pay that much. I can't see us getting more than £50m anywhere at this time. If Amorim wants wing backs rather than wings then maybe he's not the right profile however talented he may or may not be.
22 Jan 2025 13:44:07
Funny how 12 months ago he was our future now because we can get a couple of new shiny players. he's not that good! i'm sure with the clubs track record the new faces will be aces.
22 Jan 2025 14:02:27
Not a good sign, selling a HG player with a lot of potential whilst struggling to remove a player on massive wages that we want rid of doesn't sit well. I read into this, the club as desperate for cash.
22 Jan 2025 19:34:33
I'm still on the fence over whether we should sell Garnacho. However, if we do we need to be realistic. Anything around 50m would be a great deal in the current market.
We are seeing tighter financial regulations along with clubs feeling the impact of the pandemic leading to more sensible decisions, combine to see fees dropping around Europe. It will be quite a while before we see players going for north of 100m again.
Garnacho is young and talented, a player with potential. Yet if we are honest not many talented young players leave a club like Manchester United to go on and become a top top player.
While Napoli see Garnacho as a potential replacement for Kvaratskhelia, who himself is only 23 but must be considered amongst the very best LW players in the world right now. A genuine world class talent. A player who has just been sold to PSG for a reported 70m euros which equates to around 59m pounds.
If Kvaratskhelia is worth 59m, then we cannot be valuing Garnacho much above 50m, he isn't at the same level and it is questionable if he has the ability to reach the same level. Even if he does he's likely years away from getting to that level.
There is no point comparing what we have paid for players as some sort of barometer as to what we should expect to get for him.
50m for a player we got for practically nothing, who has potential, but has also shown some worrying signs of mental fragility at times, while also not having a natural position in the team so would require some adapting to become a regular player is actually a great deal.
Right now he isn't a starter, and there is no guarantee that he will ever become a starter. If his sale enables us to buy 2 or even 3 starters then it starts to become a very logical decision.
Look at the impact Amad is having this season. That's the kind of impact a player who is well suited can have on the team.
Would you swap Garnacho for another three players who can match the impact of Amad?
22 Jan 2025 20:09:55
You should bite someone's hand off for 50 million imo. Very average player maybe worth about 25mil I'd say.
22 Jan 2025 21:33:34
Maybe something like £55m + incentives to give us a few quid further down the road? I do like him, he’s very direct and is a great impact sub when opposition is flagging. But if there is a target or two who would fit into this side immediately it should be done IMO.
22 Jan 2025 21:55:06
Spenno, name me a club that would pay 55m+ for Garnacho over Kvaratskhelia for 59m?
One is a player with potential, the other a genuine world class player who is still only 23.
That's like paying the same for a pile of car parts and a Ferrari.
One has the potential to be a Ferrari, but the other already IS a Ferrari.
If Kvaratskhelia is worth 59m in the current market, than Garnacho is worth around 45m at most. If we get more than that then we've done well in the current market.
To be honest if we want the maximum price then it'll have to be Chelsea we sell to as EPL clubs have significantly stronger finances and are about the only clubs that can afford to over pay for players.
22 Jan 2025 23:11:44
I think Garnacho has not progressed because he has not had a proper coach. Conte is no fool and he wouldn't fork out £50m for no good reason. I fear we will sell Garnacho and then in a year or so wish wevhadnt.
23 Jan 2025 00:35:07
Well he would probably thrive in the Italian league just like Mctominay is but selling him wasn’t a mistake either.
23 Jan 2025 05:56:06
Good young player and not great and not from our academy. We got the boy at 17 from Spain. He is average in build up play. we can do better.
23 Jan 2025 08:46:18
Kvaratshkelia is by no means world class. He's good but not world class.
23 Jan 2025 14:02:04
Shappy, Kvaratshkelia's price was 'low' as his contract is short. By the end of the season he'd be able to sign a pre-contract for another club.
Need to dig a little beyond the obvious and ask why sometimes.
23 Jan 2025 14:56:24
Speaking of fees city seem to have opened the purse and spending big. they will miss qualification for the next phase of cl if they don't win their last game and finish outside the top 24. Would love to see that. given where they are coming from their season is worst than our so far.
24 Jan 2025 14:19:14
Ahmad,
It really isn’t though is it, they are 5th in the league, 12 off the top, we are 13th in the league 12 off 19th, you’ll struggle to convince me our season has been better than theirs.