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28 jul 2017 14:29:11
ed woodward boasted about uniteds financial power so why when we are the richest club in the world are we not in for world class players when they are available like .
mbappe
sanchez
neymar
?
surely when players like that become available which inst very often and we want to be back at the top with the premier league and champions league a club like us should be in for them?!?
also at the moment our squad depth worries me our starting 11 is looking good apart from lingaard who at the moment will still be starting unless we sign somebody else on the wings! lingaard works hard but for me doesn't have the quality we need to compete on all fronts he is a squad player and even an everton player at best!
when you look at who we have signed so far lindelof looks like he will need time from what i've seen in pre-season so far and lukaku is a replacement for zlatan's goals so where have we improved from last season?!? some of our football last year was still boring no quality or creativity in the opposition half! our defence is solid enough but going forward worries me again going into this season!
we have always been famous for wingers who get on the outside and cross a ball in which is what we need now we have lukaku!
at the moment we have no width martial and micky want to cut inside all the time we need players who will attack to the byline and whip a ball in!
i know city and chelsea are spending big so why aren't we?
our squad depth and quality simply isn't good enough going into this new season especially now we have champions league football back if we get a few injuries who do we have to step in fellaini i'm sorry but that is not good enough for a team like united!
pogba probably the best midfielder in the world and we paid a world record for him you watch him play for france and when he was at juventus he had a free role and a defensive midfielder behind him doing the mopping up so why have we not gone out and got a defensive midfielder to compliment pogba for this season and get the best from him?
as you can tell i am getting rather frustrated from our lack of activity in the transfer market when others around us are improving more and more i really thought when we won the europa league and got champions league football back this summer we and jose would mean business but it just looks like the same old story yet again linked with everyone for weeks and months and end up with nobody!
why does everybdoy else go out and get who they want no messing and we dont?
i listened to an interesting podcast the other day saying how the glazers will only let us spend so much and not compete with signing the likes of neymar because they are still taking money out of the club for their own pockets! do they not see that if we signed neymar for £180 million they would treble that money back over the years we had him with shirt sales etc etc?!?
we are the biggest club in the world now let's start proving it!

1.) 28 Jul 2017 15:09:02
Mbappe is only interested in going to Madrid, there is no point going for him, Sanchez will probably stay at Arsenal and then leave on a free next year and Neymar, well Ed02 has said we would be interested along with Chelsea and PSG but he doubts if he will be sold this summer. As for world class I would not describe Mbappe as that, what Madrid are rumoured to be paying £150 million for is potential, we did the same with Martial. Remember, we were looking at Griezman until the Zlatan injury changed our priorities, we wanted Bale before he chose Madrid, United are always in for the top players if and when they are available.

2.) 28 Jul 2017 15:12:31
Maybe we are trying to sign the players the manager wants?

3.) 28 Jul 2017 15:15:10
Relax man! Jeez.

We will sign more players but need to shake off the "we are stupid enough to pay anything" tag we have earned over the last 2 years. Yes, as a business we are pretty solid but we don't have sugar daddies investing a billion pounds into the club every 3 years.

We would have all liked all our business done early doors but the prices quoted were bonkers! I am for one glad we are no sticking to our evaluation of players.

4.) 28 Jul 2017 15:56:36
Jred, that's a stupid comment, we should be signing the biggest names possible, we are Manchester United. It's fans like you that are the problem. You need to get with the programme, Neymar, Messi, Ronaldo are the players we should be signing,

5.) 28 Jul 2017 16:04:51
Ajh
Sorry ☹ I will try harder.

6.) 28 Jul 2017 17:57:41
I sympathise with the views of the original poster. I think there's no harm in signing good, hardworking players like Lindelof. But in midfield and particularly attacking positions, we need to sign the best players available. Sanchez and Neymar are available and are way better than any player we've got in that position.
You saw Barcelona the other day, will they be any force at all without Messi, Suarez and Neymar? Of course not. United need to invest heavily in the attack and wing areas. We do not possess a game changer in attack.
In addition, when EW has a small fortune to spend and you get clubs like Everton and West ham investing as much as we have, then it does show lack of ambition.
Ryan is right, we do not have sugar daddies investing in the club, but we do have an extremely successful club that has more following than any other club in the world and generates more income than any other club in the world. Unfortunately, we also have owners who are more interested in finance than football.
Hand on heart, does anyone on here (apart from GDS) believe that we can win the league this year unless we add top quality in our wing/ attack and fullback areas. If you do, then you're seriously kidding yourself. I think Chelsea have invested very well as have City, who have invested heavily but in highly technical players. On present playing staff, we will not be anywhere near top 2 and possibly top 3 as Spurs ate also better than us.

7.) 28 Jul 2017 18:26:44
I remember City investing heavily in CBs last year and they were pants for the most part. Buying expensive players guarantees nothing.

I agree our business has so far been less than stellar and we need more but this black or white approach is simplistic, stamping our feet because we haven't signed Neymay borders on childish.

8.) 28 Jul 2017 19:10:43
I agree ajh. We need more schmid i can only think of a couple of posters on here that think our squad is good enough. So most people agree. But there is time. Those top tier players bale griezman veratti neymar hazzard dembele are not available right now. The figures required to buy neymar and pay him on a 5 year contract is about the same as 20% of the total club value. It could possibly hamper any future signings for 3 windows.
We will sign 2 or 3 more players imo we need to. Jose knows what he is doing. Be patient and see whst happens if jose gets the players he wants we will be competing on all fronts.
I agree city have bought good players so have chelsea but who says they will be better teams because of it? Its ant what the team does not and how those players fit in to the team structure.

9.) 28 Jul 2017 19:17:22
Schmidt.
I would of thought that the manager knows what he needs and what he can get .
I would love neymar at united but would neymar love to be at united?
Does he want to spend the next 5 year living in Manchester, maybe he does maybe he doesn't I don't know but I bet Jose does .
The ed told us griezmann was the target (top top player) and the alternative was perisic, not neymar bale Sanchez. Jose wanted griez or perisic, for what ever reason

The money is there very few teams have spent more than united over the last 3 year . We broke the transfer record last summer, has there been a bigger deal than lukaku this season .

The club has backed the manager and I have no doubt the manager will get the players HE wants that fit what he is looking for .
Then it's up to him.

10.) 28 Jul 2017 19:33:12
It's a bit like everyone going on and on about we have to buy a RB and a LB .
We have plenty of cash we have shown we will spend it, if JOSE wants 2 full backs I'm sure we will sign them .
If he doesn't we probably won't that's the managers choice .

11.) 28 Jul 2017 19:37:49
Sympathise with the OP and the amount of thumbs down he's getting. Similar happened to me when I dared to question our business a couple of weeks ago. Having an opinion that our business isn't good enough is perfectly valid, but dare voice it and you'll get shot down. The proof is in the pudding so we'll know come the end of the season if it was or wasn't what was required. I doubt many fans will be happy ending in a similar league position again this year but I personally don't think we've improved our squad much.

12.) 28 Jul 2017 19:47:35
i'm of the opinion our business was done ages ago. just not made public.

13.) 28 Jul 2017 19:49:36
Only half way through the transfer window and we have only spent 90 mil on a striker (biggest deal of the summer ) and 30 mil on a cb .
That's to add to the 90mil world record fee for pogba the 30 for miki and Bailly. Which team have done a better bit of business than the 30 mil united payed for Bailly ( maybe a lesson in there .

Add herrera rash mata ddg martial Tony Shaw mourhinho you have to wonder if united will cope .

14.) 28 Jul 2017 19:50:01
My concern is not so much the quality of the players we are after but more the timing of any further signings as this could have a significant impact on the start to our season. Looking at our first 6 games, they are all winnable, but if we are integrating key players in our team this may impact negatively on results. Looking at a few of the top teams their first 6 games are also winnable so we don't want to be playing catch up
José has stated he wanted 4 players and gave the club the names at the end of last season, hoping they would have a full pre-season with us. Time is moving on and if José sees Persisc (spelling) as a key signing then pay the £48m, after all a successful season would see the excess paid recouped several times over.

15.) 28 Jul 2017 20:02:39
Im hoping for a big debut in Dublin on aug 2nd.

16.) 28 Jul 2017 20:05:16
Gamesabadger. Don't be offend if people argue a different opinion than yours. You or schmid are not being rubbish diwn by anyone and fast as i can see just people offering their opinion which is just a valid. Your right it will be seen at the end of the season how much we improved or not as the case may be. The rest is just debate mate.

17.) 28 Jul 2017 21:06:38
Schmid,

Unsure why I got a name check there, I think we will get top 4 this year but win struggle to win the league as it stands. Not sure why you think I think anything else.

18.) 28 Jul 2017 21:46:40
I think every team will struggle to win the league, tough this year .

Everyone had it between united and city last year look how that turned out .

Leicester won it only 2 year ago.

19.) 28 Jul 2017 22:04:03
We get a X amount from adidas as part of the shirt deal we have with them, selling more shirts with neymar doesn't change the amount we get from adidas.

20.) 29 Jul 2017 09:33:29
Good debate guys. Gds, I'm only pulling your leg mate, you always see the good side so that's not a bad thing.
Ken, totally agree mate that everyone's opinion matters and no one should be offended.
Keano and gameasabadger, I'm of the same opinion about our team. We are well short of winning the league.
Jred, no one is saying that we don't have good players (though when you added Shaw on your list, I started laughing as he's been the biggest waste of money and people still think he'll come good. Flogging a dead horse on that front) . Of course we have good players. But do we have two or even one great attacker or winger? That's what we're saying. We need to buy two world class attackers/ wingers to take us to the level of Chelsea and City. Sanchez and Neymar are available, yet the club does not seem interested. That's our frustration. Would you not like to see us lining up with Sanchez lukaku and Rashford. Or Neymar lukaku and Sanchez and Rashford as a front 4 that can be called upon? We're looking for excitement watching our team and at present, nothing has changed.
Lastly, Manchester is an amazing city. A city with culture, night life, restaurants, theatres, bars, shopping. We have beautiful suburbs with a great diversity of people. So I never like to hear anyone saying "why would so and so come to Manchester". It's a great city. Ask all the ex United players who still live there long after they retired. Manchester is a great city. As good as Barcelona so let's not start knocking our home town.

25 jul 2017 17:30:39
i don't know about anybody else but i am getting increasingly frustrated with out lack of activity in the transfer market!
when you look at how poor our attacking play was last season when we got into the opposition half all that we have really added at the moment is lukaku who is to replace ibra's goals!
look at city spending big getting who they want!
look at chelsea spending big and talking about bringing in 4 more!
look at us stuck on 2 transfers with no promise of anymore incoming!
i really thought when we won the europa league and made champions league football again this summer would be the big summer we have all been waiting for to get this team back where they belong and at the moment i am concerned with the transfers other teams are making and their squad depth compared to ours! this season we have champions league football to contend with and when you look at our squad a few injuries and we havent got the depth and strength to compete on all fronts!
at the moment we will be fighting for a top 4 finish again instead of top spot!
we need more incoming players asap!

1.) 25 Jul 2017 18:07:38
O dear 🙄🙄.

2.) 25 Jul 2017 18:31:19
Is the Problem Ed isn't great at selling the club, he is good with people who want to deal with us such as sponsors but seems we miss out on most big layers with other options. Some may say Lakaku but how much of that was Ed and how much was down to being good friends with Pogba. The window has plenty of legs to run i know, but from Jose's comments it sound like he wanted them all done by now. Even if we do get the four transfers done is that going to be enough to improve the squad enough to compete with Chelsea and City who are improving their teams greatly.

3.) 25 Jul 2017 18:32:12
A much more passive and karma-inducing reply than what mine would've, ever been. *dobs hat in simonmorris' direction.

4.) 25 Jul 2017 18:47:07
😮😮

Anyone up for a wayne rooney chat

😂.

5.) 25 Jul 2017 19:37:55
"Big summer we have all been waiting for".

Zlatan, Pogba, Miki and Bailly last year anyone?

Some people won't be happy til we sign Neymar, Messi, Grease-man and Kroos all on the same day.

6.) 25 Jul 2017 19:50:21
The reality is very few of us know what is going on inside the club. Jose says we are 50% done so logic would say 2 more in. Are we waiting on moving on some others? Are our targets not available? Are some not available just yet? Is Zlatan 1 of the 2? If we're patient I'm sure we'll either get more info from the Eds and/ or hear from the club on further business.

I'm sure the club are doing what they can on what they want to do and won't buy for the sake of it just because other clubs are spending lots. Of our rivals, who has really improved significantly?

Chelsea have added to their squad depth in defense and midfield and bought in Morata to replace Costa. Decent squad depth additions with European football back on the agenda but Morata isn't a major Costa upgrade in my opinion (If Costa goes to AM and this results in us getting Greizmann then personally I think we'd be best off out of all parties but at this point this is purely fantasy football speculation. ) .

City have spent very well ("well" being v market rates! ) but the volume of new signings may require some time to gel and they still haven't addressed their centre back issues.

Arsenal have added Lacazette but it looks like Sanchez is pushing for to leave and if they hang on to him you have to wonder if he'll have half a mind on the exit door.

Spurs haven't really done much. Maybe not a bad thing!

Liverpool have bought in a few and the return of Mane may be like a new signing so they should be better but overall no major upgrades v last season.

Everton have made some good signings but Lukaku will be a big miss.

We have added goals up top, a desperately needed centre half and crucially - so far - kept DDG from the grasps of Real Madrid. Couple that with a more settled Pogba and Miki, perhaps one or two more in and - hopefully - more consistency from the likes of Rashford and Martial and we should be far better than last season.

7.) 25 Jul 2017 22:33:11
Wow 😂😂.

8.) 25 Jul 2017 23:03:37
We all know that final league position is based on how much teams spend.

City have spent over £200m on 6 players so they will win the league
Chelsea have spent £120m so they will be second
We have only spent £105m so we will be third
Arsenal, Liverpool and Spurs simply haven't spent anywhere near as much. They're boards need to pull out their fingers and sign some players or else they are all DOOMED. They make our disgraceful inactivity look good.

If we could only find a couple of players to spend £100m on, whoever they are, we will win the league. It's that simple. Money is everything.

20 Jul 2017 12:00:43
In Mourinho's latest interview he has stated we are struggling on the 4 signings he wanted and will probably end up with 3! Personally i would not be happy with this considering the injuries we have at the moment and the amount of other signings other teams are making for example city and Pep has come out saying he wants another 4 signings on top of who he has already signed!
If jose wants 4 players united and woodward should pay whatever it takes to get these players in!
Im pretty sure the 3rd signing will be Peresic but we need a defensive Midfielder so it free's up Pogba and then we will get the best from him! We missed out on Kante last year absolute snip at 35 million and the difference he made at Chelsea which freed up their most influential players going forward and that is Pogba for us! So i am still hoping we get 2 more signings including this defensive midfielder!

1.) 20 Jul 2017 12:47:58
I totally wish we had got Kante last year. Pogba seems to have his best games for France, purely because the midfield allow him to go and do what he wants. I read this morning that PSG could be looking to offload Matuidi. I reckon although we are being linked with Verratti, I think he will stay and we will end up with someone like Matuidi - who is probably our 4th or 5th choice.

2.) 20 Jul 2017 13:34:02
U4L7,

What about the players we already have and the players added to the squad from the academy (Mitchell, Axel) and coming back from loan (Pereira) . Is it really all about 6/ 7 shiny new signings each summer or could the players we already have step up and show what they are made of?

Pep can do what he wants, let him sign 9 players if he wants every summer then watch him complain when they haven't gelled in November.

3.) 20 Jul 2017 14:23:26
Jose will have a plan A, B and maybe C for Rach position. Once these are not available, better to stick and give the younger lads a chance as we always have done as a club than spend £60m, I repeat £60 on Eric Dier. They may just surprise us like Rashford did.

4.) 20 Jul 2017 14:56:51
Do you not think we should see how rach does before going with plan A B and C.

5.) 20 Jul 2017 16:54:55
Or alternatively he is publicly stating the club would rather go into next season with only 3 new signings rather than be held to ransom for said player/ s.

It might just be a tactic to relieve pressure on Ed Woodward and to give him a stronger negotiating position.

6.) 20 Jul 2017 19:46:19
Or it is subtly adding pressure on Woodward. Get only three and everyone knows where the issue is.

I stand by my previous comments that we need two, a very good midfield player and that real quality No7 to take us to the level of challengers.

7.) 20 Jul 2017 20:08:12
Red Man,

How would you feel about Matic/ Dier and Perisic in this window and bring Griezmann next summer for the No.7.

8.) 20 Jul 2017 20:40:29
Dier is piss average and i have no idea why people keep taking about him. Matic i like. I think we have one big transfer in us before the end of this window.

9.) 20 Jul 2017 21:05:59
Discountdave

I would be disappointed but not devastated. Decent players who would probably see us into the top four, but that isn't enough

Griezmann had his chance so unless they have some agreement I would not wait for him. Our need is now.

Questions back to you. How do you think we would fare if we added Veratti and Sanchez? Are they not the level we should be looking at?

10.) 20 Jul 2017 23:06:11
RrdMan. A club like United should be aiming to get Sanchez and Veratti. But we won't.

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