03 Aug 2025 09:34:51
Bruno
30 and someone is willing to give us £100 plus million for him.
Look at the team structure RA is building, Cunha MBueno and a CF. Then look behind them Casemiro and Bruno. That really is not a good midfield pair. Let's be honest in CM Bruno is not a good choice. We would be squeezing him in rather than building a team around him. If he was the vital No1 player he would have got one of the No10 roles, something he is more suited to. He didn't get one.
How many times have I written on here the club has been held back by sentiment and now it's very visible from some. Must keep Bruno, he's our only hope. It sounds like an excerpt from Star Wars, when it isn't. Stop the sentiment, take the £100m and build a new team.
03 Aug 2025 10:09:16
1. The club have no offer its paper talk at the moment.
2. They will approach bruno 1st and no offer will arrive unless bruno tells them he will move if they can agree a deal with united.
3. Its not in anyway up to the club or RA to decide until an offer comes in.
The club cannot be acvised of being sentimental when they got no offer and most likely won't get one this time unless bruno says yes.
Nothing to do with the club its about what bruno wants for himself and his family.
My opinion is that if he accepts their offer then we should not fight to keep him. If he wants to go let him if he doesn't then we won't get an offer.
It will be the same with sesko. We won't make an offer unless he chooses to come. We are not going to make an offer and then try to convince him to join.
03 Aug 2025 10:16:13
He doesn't want to go Red man. If he was open to it we would have taken the cash earlier in the window
Not sure what you want the club to do. Put another player on the naughty step until he leaves?
03 Aug 2025 10:22:26
Liverpool fan here.
I think its crazy so many united fans feel that holding on to Bruno is essential. He's a great player at times, but has went missing at so many crucial times over the last few years. Final against spurs is a recent example of this. Added to the fact that he doesn't seem to be a leader in any way, if Amorim is to change the culture of the club I think he should be long gone. Especially considering your financial restraints, selling him and reinvesting the money on the squad could make you a much better side. Just my opinion of course.
03 Aug 2025 10:26:19
Red Man I get your point but Bruno in CM with two good no 10s that drop deep out of possession is a much more secure system than I think you're giving it credit for. A player like Baleba alongside Bruno and it definitely works. Mainoo and Ugarte, if they improve in certain areas, can also work well in that set up. So I don't want to see Bruno leave. He's been our only genuine world class talent for several years now. I want to see him with these better players around him.
03 Aug 2025 10:59:38
The club was willing to accept the bid earlier in the summer, but Bruno decided he didn't want to go.
That's the end of it.
If the player doesn't want to go then we can't force him as we are finding out with Sancho, Garnacho and Antony.
Bruno probably isn't a perfect fit in the double pivot, he's always been a cross between a No.8 and a No.10. he'd be fine as part of a midfield three but could be exposed in a two man midfield.
However, Amorim does have a history of playing players who seem more suited to the No.10 position deeper in the midfield double pivot. At times Amorim would play Pedro Goncalves (Pote) in the double pivot despite him normally playing as a No.10 or out wide.
Bruno is more physically capable and better defensively than Pote, so maybe he can adapt to playing in the double pivot.
The other thing we should consider about Bruno staying is that players aren't fixed to just one position. Bruno will probably play the majority of his minutes in the double pivot this season, but he'll also probably play a significant amount higher up in the attacking midfield/ inside forward positions as well. As pointed out he is 30 now, he might not start every game and could be an option from the bench. It's actually a smart move to keep one or two top players on the bench who you can bring on to change the game if needed. That could lead to one of Bruno, Cunha or Mbeumo starting the game on the bench occasionally to give us an option to come on later in the game.
While it's only pre-season and it's to be expected at this stage, I wouldn't be surprised to see us as a team fade later on in games due to the high intensity style of play. It happened to Liverpool in their first season under Klopp. The final 20 minutes the team dropped off and they would often concede goals late on. It will be important to have good players who can come on to keep the intensity levels up for the entire game.
While the money could be useful to the club in rebuilding the squad, we should as Manchester United fans be painfully aware that spending money on new players does not guarantee success. Over a billion wasted on transfers over the last decade should mean we understand this better than the fans of most clubs.
Spurs got a huge fee for Bale and bought 3 or 4 players with it and still became a worse team.
If we are selling Bruno to fund buying a player like Sesko then we really should be asking whether that is a smart idea.
I rate Sesko, he has huge potential, but he could also be Højlund Mk.2. I'm not even writing Højlund off fully yet, he's young and the expectation of him to carry the goalscoring burden was just too much, especially in a team that has a long way to go to being a good side. Both Højlund and Sesko have the potential to be top class players in a few years time. But we need players who can score and create goals right now so that we can become a better side that finishes in the European places to bring in the money that comes with competing in Europe as well as the prestige needed to attract the best players.
Ultimately if we had been in the UCL this coming season then Gyökeres would probably be a United player rather than an Arsenal player right now.
To get there we need goals, yes we've added Cunha and Mbeumo, but neither are guaranteed to be a success or score as many as they did last season (both massively over produced on their expected goals, that tends to be a purple patch and not the norm) . Can we really afford to sell the only guaranteed source of goals in our team?
I get that Bruno isn't the long term answer, but not every player has to be part of the long term plans. Players like Yoro, Heaven, Dorgu, Amad, Mainoo and Højlund need experienced top level players to both learn from and to take the burden off them while they develop.
Maybe Bruno's role is to help guide these young players over the next 2-3 years, take the burden off them to allow them time and space to develop into top class players. Sometimes he'll play in midfield, sometimes in attack, and sometimes (probably increasingly) from the bench.
What's wrong with phasing out a top class player and role model?
I actually think the club is in a great position with Bruno this summer, if they sell him (because he wants to go) then we raise huge funds to speed up the rebuild, if we keep him then we keep our best player, our captain, and we have his quality in the team for the next season at least.
It might be next summer that is the best time to sell him rather than this one. Sure we won't get quite as much as we would this summer. But we will have had a year for our younger players to develop and improve, a year for our new players to settle in and hit their best form, and hopefully we will have finished in at least a Europa League place, maybe even sneaked a UCL if we are lucky, meaning we can attract the best players next summer to potentially replace Bruno.
Maybe this summer it would be too much change too quickly, and losing our captain maybe isn't the best idea.
03 Aug 2025 11:39:45
Let’s also be fair, what does 100 million even buy you, it certainly won’t buy a midfielder who gets you 15-20 goals a season same amount of assist and experience that money can’t buy.
Liverpool just paid over 100 million for Wirtz, great player yes, in the premier league we have no idea, will he get even 10 goals who knows…. We know Bruno hardly misses a game, scores goals and assist every season and you want to force that player out the door and buy what Exactly, more potential and cross our fingers they realise that potential, if they don’t we miss out on Europe and struggle to attract better players and other players look at it and say that United sell there best players let’s use them as a stepping stone, it sends out all the wrong signals, or let’s just stay a stepping stone middle of table club then!
It’s more than just the money in certain business it’s all about intent…. You don’t see the best you got, that’s ridiculous.
03 Aug 2025 12:22:52
My view on Bruno is quite simple.
I don’t think that’s he’s essential, or even that he is a perfect fit in Amorim’s system.
But, he has been our best player since he arrived.
When others have downed tools, half arsed things, and failed to step up, he did.
He has never given anything but 100% for the club.
His fitness level is remarkable, and I cannot remember a single time when he didn’t do everything in his power to make himself available for selection.
An offer came in at the start of the summer. The club did exactly the right thing, and left the decision up to Bruno. He could have moved to Saudi and earned an obscene amount of money. Instead, he decided to stay and fight to help this club get back to where it should be - competing for league titles.
Bruno has earned the right to stay to see out his contract, and is a player with exactly the type of attitude and commitment that needs to be in the dressing room.
03 Aug 2025 16:51:40
Does anyone know where Amorim plans to play Mbeuno? My suspicion is he’s going to play as a RWB. In that case cunha and Bruno both play as number 10’s.
03 Aug 2025 18:01:07
Interesting suspicion, do you also suspect the earth is flat and the moon landings never happened?
03 Aug 2025 18:18:44
Don't think the earth is flat AJH but we definately didn't go to the moon. Physically impossible probably even now to do so. I go along with the narrative to protect the value of my dad's 1964 omega moonwatch when I need to :)
03 Aug 2025 19:28:39
I love Bruno and don't want him to leave. I do have concerns with him in MF, but I can see it working With Ugarte.
Mainoo I think is the longer term successor to Bruno in MF.
Another season will do everyone the world of good, maybe even 2.
03 Aug 2025 21:25:16
I think him and Amad will switch between RWB and the R10 position throughout the season, they will cause defenders all sorts of problems.
03 Aug 2025 21:27:13
I’m with you Supasub.
04 Aug 2025 11:02:15
Sentiment at Utd is rife. We need to look at Bruno in the context of this major team structure and personnel change we are undertaking. He is 30 and I don’t think he fits what the future is. We won’t get £100m next window or next summer. This sounds like a different enquiry from a different Saudi club.
When teams keep running through our midfield then maybe it will click for everyone.
04 Aug 2025 13:54:47
We didn't get offered anything thing for bruno this summer. No bid was made to the club. No sentiment there at all redman.
We can't sell to someone who doesn't make a proposal.
04 Aug 2025 18:54:02
Ken
Sentiment is amongst supporters who can’t let him go. This isn’t peak Robson or Keane we are talking about.
Well reported one of the Saudi clubs were willing to pay £100m, and well reported Bruno felt it could have happened if United said yes. It’s now a different Saudi club.
Sentiment is all the weeping that we might sell. Making tough decisions used to be in United and in SAF DNA, Beckham, Ince, Kanchelskis, Hughes, Stam (that one was wrong for me but still decisive), Van Nistelrooy, Ronaldo. Now we struggled with Rashford, beg over Bruno.
We can watch the candle flicker and go out or sell whilst we can, whilst there is someone to buy. If there is £100m, sell, buy a Beleba whilst we can.