27 Nov 2025 23:31:19
I don't know why people are so anti Zirkzee. He has never had a proper run in the team to build his confidence. He has never really played in a settled team either.
I think he is a decent player and that like.
28 Nov 2025 02:11:59
I like Zirkzee, I understand that he hasn't played much this season and lacks match sharpness. My concern isn't his work ethic, but where does he actually fit in.
Last season I thought that he had started to develop a good understanding with Dorgu and Heaven down the left handside. Until Heaven got injured, shortly followed by Zirkzee aswell.
He is a grafter aswell, but I feel that he lacks the overhaul quality to be a success at Utd.
Is the environment at Utd the right one for players to develop?
Players need to be mentality ready to fight, to succeed, to withstand the pressure and burdens that being a Utd player is, especially when the club has underachieved for so long, with the weight of expectation weighing down on their shoulders.
28 Nov 2025 03:16:23
Yes, he is a quality player Salford, I don't think there is a doubt about that.
My issue with him post Everton was that he had an opportunity to stake a claim for a starting position irrespective of whether Sesko or others are available and he let himself down.
Would be interested to see how productive he is after a few more games.
28 Nov 2025 06:23:50
I'm not Anti-Zirkzee, I was a big fan of the signing when we got him. Quality young player, bargain price, and a different type of striker to what we had.
Unfortunately, the landscape has changed since he signed, we have a different manager who has different footballing ideas. Maybe if we sign Semenyo and played Zirkzee as a false 9 with Semenyo and Mbeumo playing episode of him with the intention of bombing past him, along with both wingbacks playing very high and wide to keep the width then it could work. But you'd also need two more naturally defensive midfielders more similar to Casemiro than Bruno to give it balance and avoid being exposed with both wingbacks that high.
Realistically to set the team up to get the best out of Zirkzee would require us to sign another 3 or 4 players with specific skill sets as well as dropping both Bruno and Cunha from the team. Which doesn't seem likely to me.
Under Amorim he's played best as one of the wide 10 rather than as the central striker.
As a striker he's very niche in how he plays and needs the team set up a very specific way to get the best out of him. I'm also not sure he's fully adapted to the EPL, I think some games are just too transitional for him and he's not particularly effective in those games. Germany is a very transitional league, and he looks okay for Bayern, the one team that had more control in games, but he needed the move to Italy before he flourished. Incidentally Serie A is one of the slowest and least transitional leagues in Europe. He has that Berbatov-like languid style, where he isn't necessarily slow/lazy, but he looks lackadaisical in how he plays.
I still think he's a very good player, just one that's maybe not suited to this league or this manager.
28 Nov 2025 09:47:27
He has an overly languid style reminiscent of Berbatov. Berba got away with it because he scored a lot of goals, if you're not delivering goals then it's easy to pick up criticism when you seem to amble about.
28 Nov 2025 13:27:33
Berba was a striker, who could score and create.
Zirkzee doesn’t know what he is tbh. Especially in our system. I feel like he might work well in a front 2 where he’s an outlet to hold the ball up, and wait for the other striker to make the run. Even as a number 10, he really isn’t particularly creative. He’s more of a facilitator than someone who can make something happen. I just think it was a bizarre signing, and more bizarre that we kept him and loaned Hojlund.
I don’t mind his style of play and he could do well at another club with the right strike partner, but for us he is dead weight.
28 Nov 2025 14:01:34
Too slow for the EPL, frequently has a poor first touch, his lay offs and short passes are often wayward, and he's not a great striker. Decent squad player at best who would do better in the right league, but we would have done better keeping McTominay, who actually has an eye for goal, and playing him further up the field rather than in the McTom role.
even more so with Cunha and Mbuemo in the squad, Having said that Zirkzee will probably get another chance this weekend and I hope he proves me wrong. I know he's been injured but there wasn't much about his performances last year to fill one with any confidence.
28 Nov 2025 20:30:28
Berbatov was an entirely different class and level.
28 Nov 2025 21:07:44
Danny I think zirkzee is just a case of wrong man in the wrong place.
I like some of his playing style but its not in keeping with what is needed from our cf.
29 Nov 2025 07:04:20
Agree Ken
He isn’t a goal scorer, or a centre forward or pacey. Good support striker if playing two up front with him just off. Goes back to the question, what was the plan when the club went out buying? Not just him. We have only one striker, how has it come to this? Incompetence.
29 Nov 2025 09:39:40
Theres a reason why he's been allover europe at the age of 24. He’s dross, a liability and shouldn’t ever had had the chance to put this shirt on.