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09 Mar 2020 14:10:54
All ligue 1 matches to be played behind closed doors until April (could be longer) . ed002 has stated that Serie A is in serious jeopardy of not finishing the season. Champions league games being played without fans also. its getting very serious now just in terms of sports, any chance the euros get cancelled? with it being held across so many countries, with so many migrating fans surely the risk of contamination is too big to allow. BIG BIG decisions need to be made.

{Ed002's Note - There is obviously a chance that the Euros and the Olympics could be postponed or cancelled - but it is too early to come to such a decision right now.}

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09 Mar 2020 14:58:08
It's such an unprecedented situation for everyone, for all the planning and contingencies put in place I doubt anyone would have had a strategy for something like this.

09 Mar 2020 17:11:59
The thing that is most dangerous is the ignorance and fear mongering that is attached to the current situation.

Shock pieces that are turning up all over the web and social media. I saw one that stated that there has been huge pandemics in 1720, 1820, 1920 and now 2020. Yet a little digging finds that the outbreaks during those times spanned several years, the 1720 outbreak actually stated in 1718. So it's just typical altering of facts to suit an argument.

The current death rate of Covid-19 is around 3.5%. When you consider most of those deaths have been in China where they didn't have the knowledge or the medical expertise there immediately meaning many died who might have lived had they caught it 2 months later. So if we don't include China in the death statistics then the death rate drops down to 1.1%, which is only 0.3% worse than standard influenza. Which considering the circumstances and how contagious it is suggests it is no more deadly than flu.

The worse damaged caused by this will be economical. We have seen Flybe collapse (although it was in trouble anyway, cancellations due to Coronavirus pushed them over the edge) . Although most football clubs will be able to shoulder the loss of income from gate receipts, will all of the business's selling food, drink and souvenirs on match days survive? What about Futher down the football pyramid where club's do rely on gate receipts to keep a float? What about parts of Europe that rely on tourism to bring in the money? And the small businesses that rely on that?

What about the employees of the companies that go bust?

If every single person in the UK gets it, then around 6400 people will die at most.

This year in the UK
160k will die from Heart disease
140k will die from Cancer
62k will die from respiratory illnesses
2k will die in road traffic accidents
1500 will die as victims of crime

All of these things to an extent are preventable. Viruses are not.

Yes if you get Coronavirus it isn't going to be fun. But unless you are elderly or in poor health or suffer from respiratory problems the chances of it taking your life is minimal. However, the chances that it will financially cost you in some way are almost certain.

09 Mar 2020 17:41:14
Shappy, your Maths is wrong. we have 60M people so with a 1% mortality rate that would be 600,000, but we are seeing nearer to 3% so that would be 1.8M (but of course not everyone is going to get it) .

09 Mar 2020 18:38:36
People are massively over reacting. The people most at risk are people with already underlying health risks

If people stay cautious are are sensible this will all blow over.


Over stocking on hand gels and other stuff your reading about is ridiculous


Shappy I do love your posts.

09 Mar 2020 19:12:52
Shappy, I usually agree with most of what you have to say, but your rhetoric on this is bang wrong on this. It strikes me as something straight from the Piers Morgan locker.

Those things are sometimes preventable, but then so are most things. It all comes to a decision. It’d be like watching a burning building and saying ‘oh well, more people die of cancer. No need to rescue those inside. ’ In the same way that charities are important for helping those who need it most, we have a responsibility to protect the weak and vulnerable. To think like you stated is dangerous.

Also, don’t you think there are people working at trying to reduce those numbers you mentioned? Shouldn’t that be the case with all bad stuff?

09 Mar 2020 19:17:08
Tony, the 3% mortality rate is slightly misleading. It includes many deaths in China before the country managed to get medical treatment in place, plus they have a large population of older/ ill people who are most at risk. If you look at countries outside China the death rate is much closer to 1%.

{Ed001's Note - and that is usually the way it works with any outbreak, as it always takes time for people to actually figure it out. The issue is as much about the possibility of it mutating if allowed to run rampant.}

09 Mar 2020 19:45:38
Most football clubs cannot survive without gate receipts. Think of all those clubs in League One and Two and non-league. No crowds, no gate receipts, no chance.

09 Mar 2020 19:25:35
St Patricks parade cancelled in Dublin, first time ever I'd say.
Anywhere there's big crowds now, be looking in to cancelling.
Better being safe I suppose.

09 Mar 2020 23:45:31
So now, a high temperature and a bit of coughing, means self-isolating for a week. You just know the great British public are going to rip the arse right out of this :)

10 Mar 2020 03:59:53
I’m sorry Shappy, but that’s a lot of nonsense.

As for the death rate being skewed by China, you’re right. The recorded (considering they refused to acknowledge the existence of the virus for a month or so, this itself should be taken with a pinch of salt) death rate in China is actually lower than elsewhere and brings the worldwide average mortality rate down. In Italy, the mortality rate is 5.8% and, perhaps more worryingly, the percentage of resolved cases that resulted in death is around 40%. There is a very good reason why governments are reacting the way that they are.

Perhaps you should stick to poorly informed posts about football in the future. It’s exactly this kind of attitude that leads to issues like the Coronavirus being much more damaging than they need to be.

10 Mar 2020 06:02:41
China depopulation, at it for years.

10 Mar 2020 09:25:02
Worst case upto 80 percent of the country get it, upto half a million deaths .

You need to factor in many more issues if staff are infected who is staffing, hospitals, care homes, elderly care homes, people don't go into the care of others to catch a virus off them which has a chance of killing them . This would result in many more deaths that were preventable .

People are insane stock piling hand gels so others can't get any, you need the virus to stop spreading and the best way to do that is make everyone safe . Having a stock pile of hand gel won't help you if the virus catches hold and yr near a coughing or sneezing sufferer who got it in the first place because others had hauded the gels .

This of course is worst case stuff but now is the time when we have the best chance of stopping this . Inconvenience or lost revenue to football clubs or other such things for a short period I'd say is secondary to saving many lives .

This may pass and everything seem like an over reaction but people are just guessing and hoping that's the case .

10 Mar 2020 11:16:29
I suggest reading the recent post by an Italian doctor named Daniele Macchini before dismissing the virus as just another flu.

If cancelling all football games or the Euros is what it takes to curtail the virus’ spread then so be it. I’d miss watching football, but nowhere near as much as I’d miss a relative or loved one if, god forbid, they caught the virus and were unable to recover.

10 Mar 2020 11:25:11
Just a side note at 1% mortality rate, 640,000 would potentially die if the entire populous is infected not 64,000 as stated above.

10 Mar 2020 12:23:40
It's the older people and people with breathing conditions that will get it the worse, so I'm sure we all have older family members, so we all need to be a bit careful.





 

 

 
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