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11 Nov 2025 08:01:37
Being reported forest would demand upwards of 100mil for anderson. Steer well clear!
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11 Nov 2025 11:51:41
Depending on where Forest are come January, Dyche may want to freshen up the team. Now getting rid of their best player would be ridiculous I appreciate that but I'd be tempted to offer Ugarte plus cash for Anderson and maybe Mainoo til the end of the season on Loan as a tempter. If anything, it will get the wheels in motion for Summer.
To get the calibre of player we need in CM, we will be looking at £80M upwards and yes it's a huge amount of money, but for a 23 year old, if we can get 10 years from them that's £10M a year.
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11 Nov 2025 12:54:54
Why would Forest take Ugarte for no particular reason lol.
Hes not very good and his wages are substantial, certainly for forests wage structure.
Maybe we could offer them Mount on loan in exchange for gibbs white as well and do a double swoop.
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11 Nov 2025 13:33:55
He's on par with their top 4 earners, in fact Douglas Luiz is on more than him. There is a reason, he's a CM, as is Anderson so not leaving them short in that position. You may think he's not very good but others in Football may rate him, including Bielsa who seems to pick him for Uruguay most games.
He knows a bit about Football and he may just suit Forest's and Dyche's style compared to United's. Other than that, yeah it's a sound argument you put forward.
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11 Nov 2025 13:50:50
So after watching Ugarte in the premier league you think he should be a top 5 earner at nottingham forest, a club that reached the european places last year.
Douglas luiz is on more than him because he is a better player as he showed for a good couple of years at Aston Villa.
We need to stop this arrogant view of our playing squad and elevated opinion of some of these players ability.
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11 Nov 2025 14:51:19
Why would Anderson come to United and be expected to stay 10 years that’s just dreaming!
Everyone wanted Baleba on the back of one good season, look at this season.
Everyone raved about Ugarte look how that turned out.
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11 Nov 2025 15:06:50
You said his wages are substantial, certainly for forests wage structure. I pointed out he's on par with 4 of their players and 1 is on more. It doesn't matter whether I think that's where he should be or not.
Elliot Anderson is a better player than Douglas Luiz and showed last season in the Premier League helping Forest get to European places, Luiz failed to make an impact at Juventus, involved in no goals, wasn't a regular and was inconsistent when he did play, why isn't Anderson on more than Luiz?
I am unsure on why suggesting we use a player who is currently not reaching the levels the team needs due to how we are playing as part of a deal to get a player in as well as offering money also is an arrogant view? Perhaps, Forest's style is better for Ugarte which is why it would work for all parties? Suggesting Forest give us Anderson plus cash then you'd have point.
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11 Nov 2025 16:52:45
IF he stays for 10 years Je Suit unite. IF. But he’s 23, why is it unrealistic to think he could stay for 10 years?
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12 Nov 2025 05:57:26
Because it’s 2025 and no player stays for 10 years and we are nowhere near the pull we once were and if he were to become a fantastic player, which he not yet Madrid, Bayern, PSG Barcelona will come calling to think we can hold a player for 10 years is delusional. Just look at the facts, poorly owned club realistically few years away from winning anything and still no guarantee of that, no striker at the club at all, jury out big time on the manager, SJR debacle of owning minority share, muting of new ground so be even less money to spend like happened at emirates at Spurs even happening at Madrid and Barca, so only defence you have of him staying 10 years is AGE….
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12 Nov 2025 14:14:45
What utter nonsense.
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13 Nov 2025 09:49:56
If they want 100m, pay it.
He was absolute class against us.
Get it done.
Secure the title, or top 4.
Keep the process moving.
The way he is playing, 100m in Jan is 130 in the summer.
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13 Nov 2025 14:39:56
I would rather spend £100m on the right player than £50m on another Ugarte who is nowhere near good enough and needs to be replaced after two seasons.
Is Elliot Anderson the right player? I don’t know, but if the people in charge of signings are confident that he is then so be it.
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13 Nov 2025 16:00:41
Agreed redseven. So many people scoffed at paying that type of money for Rice and I don't think most regard that as poor spending by Arsenal now.
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14 Nov 2025 00:52:26
Je suis is the latest Maze incarnation clearly, don’t feed the troll. Nonsense already.
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06 Nov 2025 08:53:53
Looks like Barcalona are interested in making the Rashford move permanent but if today's stories are true they can't actually afford to pay for the £25/ 30m agreed.
Whether this is true, them trying to play games or just fake news as it is a bit quiet who knows. However, if it is true are there ways round it where we do a true player exchange, and if so is there one that we would want.
I know that Araujo, Olmo and a few others have been discussed previously. They may have some youngster coming through that Amorim/ Wicox etc like.
Just a thought that prevents this being another loan next year.
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06 Nov 2025 16:34:03
This is not a surprise to me, have been saying to friends for some time I thought Barcelona would try this on.
They know how keen we are to move Marcus on, especially considering his huge wages. They feel if they apply pressure we will concede to them and reduce his fee, this was agreed at 30m euros (quite low if he is performing reasonably well, let's face it they will only try and buy him if he is performing to a good standard, so it would be a good deal for them)
As you say Brad they have player's to move on, so someone like Araujo, who when fit and healthy I think is a fantastic centre back could be an ideal potential trade.
I have no doubt they will find the money to facilitate any purchases they really want to make. I just don't want them trying it on with us. Also there is no penalty fee for them to pay, like Sancho with Chelsea. They also did not pay any loan fee to us, so overall, if he is playing well, they have a pretty decent deal overall.
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07 Nov 2025 08:26:29
They are paying his full wage for the entire season.
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09 Nov 2025 08:03:07
I don’t think we’ll have any trouble moving Rashford on in the summer given how he’s performed for Barca. There’s clearly a decent player in there but he had lost interest in United.
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09 Nov 2025 10:38:52
Barcelona will obviously try it on, why wouldn't they. No club signs a player for the selling clubs benefit.
We have to be realistic, Rashford is not young anymore, at 28 he has one last big contract offer available to him, and this is his last chance to sign for a top club. There aren't many clubs bigger than Barcelona and if they want to sign him and he wants to join then we would be silly not to do the deal.
From his perspective any club he moves to bar maybe going to Saudi will involve a pay cut. If he can't have his dream move to Barcelona because we refuse to sell him then I'd expect he'll refuse to sign permanently for any other club, knowing full well that we will have to pay him his wages. He'll end up going out on loan with us paying a proportion of his wages until his contract is up and he leaves on a free.
We will have to negotiate well with Barcelona to get a deal that suits everyone. I suspect the options will be to accept a lower fee from them and get the majority of all of the money upfront, or accept a larger fee to be paid over multiple years to spread the outlay for Barcelona. Either way if he wants to go and they want to take on his considerable wages then it's best we do a deal.
This is where the new management structure will earn their crust, can they negotiate a good deal, or at least a fair one.
As fans I suspect we will find it hard to remove our red tinted specs and we will see any deal, even a good one, as not good enough. We have a funny way of wanting our cake and eating it. In one breath we will say that Rashford isn't good enough, has had a poor attitude, and isn't worth the massive wages he's on. Then in our next breath claim he is worth 60-70m and that many clubs would want him, that we shouldn't accept a lower fee. Both things cannot be true.
He can't be not good enough for a team that finished 15th last season, but has aspirations to challenge for titles, but also be worth 60-70m and 300k a week to many clubs that are already challenging for titles.
If we get 30m then that's 30m profit, while his wages are reportedly 17m a year with a contract until 2028. Meaning that next summer if he leaves then that represents a 34m saving on wages on top of any transfer fee. For a player that offers us very little on the pitch any deal that moves him on makes good financial sense.
I suspect that we will accept a slightly higher fee (30-35m) spread over multiple years over a smaller (20m) fee paid up front. However, if the club has greater need for the cash sooner over the value over time then they might well accept a lower fee.
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10 Nov 2025 11:59:10
A part of me is hoping that they do refuse to pay the agreed upon fee, as given his form, I expect there’d be quite a few clubs willing to offer more to secure his services.
Sure, he says that he only wants to play for Barcelona, but if it’s a choice between a return to rainy Manchester and (let’s say) Italy, I suspect he’d go for the latter.
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10 Nov 2025 17:19:18
Straight swap for Pau Cubarsi, no problem.
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11 Nov 2025 00:46:30
Reds even, who’s got the cash to pay more than 30m euros (+300k/w) and needs a player like Rashford? Italian clubs are broke, Bayern has no real need, Real definitely has no need, same as PSG, which leaves the prem or Atletico. No other club are going to pay his wages or a high fee.
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11 Nov 2025 21:52:52
Get Olmo in a straight swap, and we'll call it quits 👍.
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09 Oct 2025 09:24:30
Anyone seen the post by Turki alalshikh? Seems to be saying United are close to selling to a new investor. Whether that's full sale or just extra funding who knows. Might also just be bs for publicity. What do we think?
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09 Oct 2025 13:49:50
Believe there was a clause in the Ratcliffe deal that after a certain period allowed the Glazers to sell and Ratcliffe would be forced to sell his holding for the price per share the Glazers agreed.
Anything that gets the Glazers out and debt paid off in full will mean popping Champagne corks
The next question is whether the prospective buyer has enough money or is it just the Glazers want to raise more money by selling more shares but not concede control. Not completely sure on the company structure but think if Ratcliffe were to buy more shares that took him over 30% he may be required to offer to all shareholders the same price per share in a full takeover. Hence why he sits at below 30%. Unless there is a clause saying they can’t, then as long as they retain overall 51% the Glazers may sell shares above that level to someone else and pocket the next load of cash. The club won’t benefit until they and the debt are gone completely. A happy day.
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09 Oct 2025 15:25:30
The freeze period ended around mid August RedMan. The 1958 were planning a protest before the Arsenal game but cancelled due to some positive feedback from fans regarding signings and the new training centre. I found it interesting the SJR would put so much money into a project when potentially he could be forced sell his shares. Apparently he gets the opportunity to match any offer the Glazers recieve. I posted that it felt like something was in the pipeline. It’s interesting an individual like Turki Alalshikh would post something like this but no idea if it has any substance. I also, perhaps reading too much into it, found the wording of ‘investors’ rather than buyers/ owners interesting and maybe deliberate?
There has also been no movement from the 1958 recently who have been so vocal and active in their protests to the Glazers. You do wonder if they have been briefed that something is happening?!
OR this could all be nonsense and we are getting excited about the Glazers being gone for nothing 😂.
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10 Oct 2025 08:46:58
Probably linked to investment in the stadium.
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10 Oct 2025 11:12:21
Someone buying up all the seat licences?
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10 Oct 2025 14:15:39
turki says a lot of stuff. would not spend too much on what he says. He likes the attention.
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10 Oct 2025 15:50:24
If only this were true….
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10 Oct 2025 21:09:52
redseven are you for real? The Glazers are awful, but wanting to be a pawn in a sportswashing operation isn't something I'd like to see happen.
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11 Oct 2025 11:16:09
I'll be very happy to see the back of the Glasers. They have offered nothing to our club but have taken plenty from us.
That said I am cautious over who it is who eventually buys them out. I'm overall pleased with how INEOS have managed things since they bought into the club. I wouldn't want any new ownership to rock the boat with that. Ideally a change in ownership would either see a total buyout by INEOS, or they at least own the controlling stake in the club so as to not complicate the running of the club.
We have to remember that anyone prepared to pay the eye watering costs of buying us will be doing so with their own agenda, and that may or may not be in our best interests.
Be that sports washing or merely for financial gain. The last thing we need is a power struggle with billionaires squaring off against eachother across the board room.
Personally, what would be my ideal situation is for INEOS to increase their stake to around 70% or more, then maybe a minority stakeholder comes in with around 30% stake. Meaning we are shot of the Glasers, but there isn't going to be a power struggle, or change in how the club is currently being run. INEOS owning a significant majority over anyone else makes things far more secure.
I have a feeling that Sir Jim might set things up and in place for some kind of partial fan ownership held in trust for after he dies. Meaning his legacy will be rebuilding the club and then giving it back to the fans. INEOS is suspect will still own a majority and controlling stake, but the rest being fan owned.
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11 Oct 2025 12:44:51
Nothing could be worse than the Glazers and the debt they have saddled the club with.
If somebody agrees a deal with the Glazers, Ratcliffe will have the opportunity to match it. I’m still not completely sold on INEOS, though, so whether he does or he doesn’t, I’ll be glad to see the back of the yanks.
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11 Oct 2025 14:30:01
You mention sportswashing but conveniently forget to mention the awful history of the glazer family in American politics DonRed?
Extremely large contributors to the Bush presidental campaign, which eventually led to an illegal war that killed millions?
Its only fair to mention both, two cheeks of the same arse as far as I care, but you must be fair. Again, I absolutely do not agree with sport washing nor would I endorse for any of these c**** to own the club, who are undoubtedly involved in atrocities across planet. No to both!
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11 Oct 2025 15:36:56
One is some prats I don't like. The other is a government funded operation to detract from horrific acts. You are equating direct involvement with indirect. That is whataboutism. I'm also not sure about your analysis of this. The Glazers give money to anyone that'll suit them. They funded a lot to both the Trump and Harris campaigns last time. You are stretching very much imo to put those two on the same footing.
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11 Oct 2025 16:14:38
"Some prats I don’t like" is doing a lot of heavy lifting there and i’m not saying the UAE investors and the Glazers are identical, one’s a state trying to polish its image. But let’s not act like the Glazers are some neutral ‘just business’ owners either. Their money’s been tied up in nasty sh1t
If the point is moral high ground, there isn’t one. It’s picking between a sportswashing operation and parasites who’ve bled the club dry while funding war-mongers. Different flavours of the same 💩 sandwich. I just don’t want either anywhere near United. ”.
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11 Oct 2025 16:18:45
And no, that’s not whataboutism, that’s just called having a memory. You don’t get to downplay one set of rotten politics just because it’s wrapped in a different flag.
If we’re talking morals, the Glazers have happily bankrolled people who create the mess, while the other lot are using football to cover theirs. One’s direct, one’s indirect, both are still rotten to the core.
One stinks less loud, that’s all. Still stinks.
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12 Oct 2025 14:53:04
Saying that I shouldn't take sportswashing seriously because of some other indirect involvement via funding a politician before they took an action is pretty much the archetypical example of whataboutism.
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12 Oct 2025 17:38:34
That’s not what I said at all. I never told you not to take sportswashing seriously, I said don’t act like the Glazers are some moral alternative. And no, that’s not whataboutism, pointing out that both sides are rotten isn’t deflection, it’s context.
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12 Oct 2025 21:54:03
Scholes, Unless you are talking about something other than funding a political campaign you are equating two very different things. It is common - expected in fact - for rich people in the US to heavily donate to campaigns.
The Glazers as I said above heavily funded both Trump and Harris! It feels like you are searching for a reason to put them on equal footing with direct and actual evidence of human rights abuses by the groups funding these sports washing operations. I just don't see the equivalence you do. This, one is bad and the other is bad so why split hairs logic just isn't something I'm ever going to agree on.
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20 Oct 2025 13:58:18
And let’s not be so naive to think Ineos and SJR are not in it for themselves either, like some are suggesting.
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23 Oct 2025 05:07:01
Reality is, if whoever comes in will be skeletons in the cupboard but if they injecting money and United winning you same bunch will turn a blind eye…hypocrites.
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24 Oct 2025 18:37:01
Notimesoon
Maybe your next persona could be shakesfistatcloud?
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09 Oct 2025 06:04:46
Turki alalsheik has come out overnight with a statement regarding our ownership- The best news I heard today is that Manchester United is now in an advanced stage of completing a deal to sell to a new investor - I hope he's better than the previous owners. '
Who do we think this person is? . and what happens with jim?
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09 Oct 2025 09:26:37
Didn’t see your post and posted the same story. Probably bs but we can hope. Might also not be a full sale but just extra investment coming in for a percentage? Is that even possible?!
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10 Oct 2025 11:53:23
Don’t see full sale whilst the glazers are still raking it in. Turki does a lot of work with The Hearns (Matchroom) . Pretty much kings of pay per view and games in Saudi on the cards. Maybe a bit out here.
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08 Oct 2025 22:35:14
It seems the club are in talks with Maguire for a new deal. He did better last year but he isn't good enough I'm afraid. We need to be improving on him if we're to get anywhere. Just on monetary grounds I'm perplexed by this as surely he'd have to accept well under 50% of his current contract for this to even be a discussion.
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09 Oct 2025 08:57:38
Good squad player, experienced head and leader in the dressing room. What’s the problem?
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09 Oct 2025 09:20:25
I imagine a wage cut will be part of it as his on field time will likely drop but a solid professional to have around.
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09 Oct 2025 09:24:26
He is a squad player, not a good one. Too old, slow, ponderous and he will sit on bench with little or no return for the investment.
Time to move on and not end up with another old player taking up space.
But then it ain’t no secret what I think about slabhead.
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09 Oct 2025 10:44:32
Culpable for many goals conceded. He has never been at the required level for a top CB.
As per Keefy T, he is slow and ponderous. Utd need to continue to add quality and not mediocre players to challenge for the top 4, even top 6.
I think it was down to Southgate picking him for England that has kept Maguire at Utd for so long.
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09 Oct 2025 11:02:37
Eric79 I listed the problems! I don't get the idea of having someone in the dressing room that is unlikely to play. That either blocks a young kid coming through or it means we don't get in a replacement. And paying someone at least 100k/ week to have the privilege of having them sit beside the players that are on the pitch definitely doesn't make sense to me.
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09 Oct 2025 11:15:13
Get rid, he is beyond crap and has been one of the constants over the last few years as we have slowly descended into the abyss we currently find ourselves trying to pull ourselves out from.
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08 Oct 2025 21:23:32
SJR: “Amorim needs three years”
The most sensible comment from a United Director since the Glazers took control.
Made my day.
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09 Oct 2025 08:11:58
That's good news that should settle the ship, but also upset a few on here 😆.
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09 Oct 2025 09:25:32
It’s only good news if we improve like we all hope. If not it’ll be a long 3 years.
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09 Oct 2025 09:26:19
I think it’s a good statement. But I’ll not bet my house on him being here this time next year.
A few poor results and a potential flirt with relegation will soon turn heads as we all know.
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08 Oct 2025 21:47:08
Do we have a super duper thumbs up option available?
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09 Oct 2025 13:44:49
Oh dear, the dreaded vote of confidence.
Anorim will be gone by the end of next week 😂.
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10 Oct 2025 08:49:55
SJR making clear to the players that they can’t force the coach out by underperforming;as with previous managers)
Good. Players have gotten away with inconsistent performances for too long, comfortable with their huge wages, and need to finally start producing the good - or THEY’ll be gone instead.
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29 Sep 2025 17:47:29
Whispers are that there has been a meeting today in which the club have defined a style of play which they have told the head coach he is required to play. That is a formation 433.
Who knows if true but if true it's a watershed moment, the club setting a direction is one point but what does it mean if they replace RA? Will the new incumbent be told to play 433? Does it rule out Glasner? Will RA resign if told how to play? Is any of this true?
Rumour site so there you go.
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29 Sep 2025 18:29:07
I can't imagine it's true, it would be a ridiculously dangerous and stupid thing to do.
It's one thing to say the team needs to play a front foot, attacking style of play. And completely another to dictate to a coach/ manager what formation the team have to play. What next which players have to start?
You hire a manager to manage the team, it is down to them how they set their team up, ultimately they will live and die by the results they get.
We have ended up in the almighty mess we find ourselves in by having unqualified people making decisions about which they know very little, certainly not their area of expertise. It would be a shame after all the good work rebuilding the club structure behind the scenes only to start repeating the mistakes of the past.
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{Ed025's Note - "it would be a shame after all the good work rebuilding the club structure" ?...when did that good work actually happen Shappy...i must have missed that..
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29 Sep 2025 19:07:41
Interview with Glasner where he speaks about playing the formation he thinks best suits his players. 4-4-2 is his favourite but that doesn’t suit his players at Palace. Speaks very well about formation.
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29 Sep 2025 21:38:40
It sounds plausible.
INEOS came in very strong with Game Model and committing to the club having an identity and style down to youth teams. That went quite with Amorim and the youth have remained successful without 3421.
It makes a lot of sense and means the players signed are for the club not the coach.
Shappy you’re coming across like a contrarian. What Redman says makes aligns with how many clubs operate.
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30 Sep 2025 06:42:03
they would be incompetent if they allow this to continue. amorim is a fraud with nice words. get rid.
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30 Sep 2025 08:53:35
Guessing you’ve seen the post from IndyKaila News on X.
Let’s hope he changes to a 433 but, given Amorim said he wouldn’t even change for the Pope, seems highly unlikely.
Results must improve though, otherwise his exit will be inevitable.
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30 Sep 2025 09:24:18
Personally it feels like the narrative surrounding Amorim has changed, and a new manager will be in place soon. I have a feeling Liverpool will be his last game with a new manager starting after that as there is a decent run of games until new year.
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30 Sep 2025 14:33:17
It feels like there is growing downward pressure on Amorim. While the directors will be reluctant to sack him, and admit they made a huge mistake, they also realise that things can’t continue like this. I wouldn’t be surprised to see interference with coaching decisions, or strong nudges towards a different play style.
However, if Amorim has proven anything, it’s that he’s stubbornly committed to playing his way. It might be a case that he would rather resign than change. But being a head coach, there is also scope for the directors to force his hand. Will be interesting to see how this eventually plays out. Regardless, I can’t see him still in the job by the end of the year.
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30 Sep 2025 20:42:24
What I don’t understand is why are the youth teams still playing 433 and 4231 if the hierarchy hired Amorim to play this 3421.
Seems to me the structure isn’t aligned through the club which is another balls up.
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30 Sep 2025 23:54:20
Or if that rumour is true could the club be trying to save £12m by getting RA to resign instead of being sacked?
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01 Oct 2025 19:38:01
Why would anybody resign and walk away from £12m.
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02 Oct 2025 22:08:49
Did RA not say he would just that, Eric? Or words to that effect at least.
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03 Oct 2025 04:30:27
That’s his problem he is just words!
He says things and then blames it on emotion, in the heat of the moment crap
Great talk the talk man, but that’s all he got
Talks a good game.
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28 Sep 2025 12:40:06
Southgate rumours have begun. 🤦🏼♂️.
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28 Sep 2025 13:26:51
I don't want Southgate anywhere near the club, but I can't help but know deep down that he would of got results for us with this team.
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28 Sep 2025 16:55:39
Not a fan either -but he would come in insist on 2 big centre halves, 2 decent full backs,3 in midfield. maybe 4-4-2 . but we would be a lot more solid and maybe start to look like a well coached team. At this point i'm just Amorim out full stop.
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28 Sep 2025 20:32:49
Southgate's only relevant experience is the Premier League where his record reads: got Middlesborough relegated.
We will go down if we appoint Southgate. Regardless what the Atomic Kitten song said he really isn't the one.
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28 Sep 2025 23:05:29
He would probably put his hands round the shoulders of the players and maybe get a better spirit and short term might see an improvement in results but I don't think he is an elite manager who would get us back the top. Let's take the pain now to get to a brighter future.
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{Ed025's Note - maybe he should put his hands around their necks Salford?..
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28 Sep 2025 23:33:54
I’d rather give it back to OGS for a go over Southgate.
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29 Sep 2025 07:51:32
And have us see Maguire start every game? Along with Shaw? No thanks.
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29 Sep 2025 11:26:18
How’s it any different to now Trumours?
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29 Sep 2025 13:24:29
Eric79 I think that's exactly the point. So many people are fixated with formation. The issue is the personnel being chosen. Against Brentford we played 5 players that I would say are either not good enough or just not ready - Bayindir, Maguire, Dalot, Dorgu and Ugarte. That's almost half the team. We can get away with one off games where those players play, or even where just one or two of those are playing. The issue is that when we need a lift in our play, those players are just not good enough. Amorim really made a huge mistake with that line up. But he compounded it by not making a change.
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29 Sep 2025 14:43:25
Also Glasner interview, not sure of details but think in German rag. (Not drag) . Although still not sure it’s the best long term if it changes focus away from the leadership team.
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26 Sep 2025 15:57:27
The global talent search continues.
Cristian Orozco, a very highly rated 17 year old defensive midfielder who plays for Fortaleza, in Colombia has signed a pre contract agreement and will become a United player when he turns 18, next July. A deal similar to that of Diego Leon who signed last summer.
He recently captained his country to the final at the South American U17 Championships, but were beaten by Brazil.
This drive for worldwide talent is being led by Jason Wilcox and Head of Recruitment Christopher Vivell who discovers the talent.
Even if all these signings don't become first team regulars it is hoped that a pool of talent will be created and sold to help finance new signings.
A very solid business strategy, if successful!
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27 Sep 2025 09:46:14
Over the last decade we have spent over a billion on players most of which haven't even come close to being value for money. Huge fees, huge wages and underwhelming performances.
Many of these players we have ended up stuck with after they've flopped as no other clubs are willing to match their wages.
I'm not saying we shouldn't spend big on some signings, but we need a more balanced approach.
I really like the idea of scouting the world for the best young talent at academy level and looking to bring them into the club.
The signings of Sekou Kone, Ayyden Heaven, Chido Obi, Diego Leon, and Enzo Kana-Biyik have all happened under the new ownership. If even one of them becomes a regular first team player then that represents the best investment in players our club have made in over a decade. With the club having spent only a few million in total to bring them ALL into the club. While their low wages and high potential means even the ones who ultimately don't make it, we will still be able to sell them for a profit.
We have actually seen this model used at our club before the INEOS take over. We signed young players like Hannibal, Kambwala, Alvaro Fernandez, Harry Amass, Toby Collyer, the Fletcher twins, and Garnacho from other academies both in England and abroad, with us selling Hannibal, Kambwala, Fernandez, and Garnacho all for a profit. If Amass and Collyer don't make it to the level we need, then no doubt they will also sell for far more than we paid to bring them in.
With the tighter financial regulations in football this has to be seen as a sensible way to run the club both from a financial perspective and a footballing one.
It allows us to bring in some of the best young talents from around the world, players who maybe initially flit between the under 21's and the first team while they settle, they may even go out on a loan or two (look at the new role for Jonny Evans), or provide squad depth for the first team. Quality depth, who aren't being paid a fortune, and who are happier to be a rotation option.
If they take their chances then they become first team regulars, if not then after a 2-3 years we sell them at a profit and reinvest that money into the first team squad.
If every year we spend 3-5m on a handful of young academy players, but we sell 3-5 ex-academy players for 20-50m then we are making huge profits. Occasionally we will get a first team regular out of it, or maybe a player like Garnacho who has talent but isn't the right fit for us who we can sell for a huge fee on their own.
Over the past decade our best value for money transfers haven't been brought into the club through the front door with the big fanfare, but quietly slipped in through the backdoor into the academy before flourishing into the first team.
It's not the only approach we should look to do, but definitely an important one that we can and should be exploiting far more.
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27 Sep 2025 10:19:42
I was confused when INEOS were banging on about this, this was United’s transfer policy for years under Fergie.
We all remember the famous remarks he made about no value in the market and then some random 20year old would turn up from some unheard of country and not last long, or be shipped off to Antwerp. Occasionally he would get one big spend like a Berbatov, van Perise or a Cole.
It wasn’t until Fergie retired that the Glazers started throwing money at the problem, obviously not their money, and it hasn’t really created a stable side and long term success.
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27 Sep 2025 18:08:53
Global search for a decent manager would be a good start….
Then get the club all teams to play same way under that managers direction.
What we got now is just bordering on insanity, if this kid is special talent, he leaves, that’s 100%.
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26 Sep 2025 02:44:16
"Barcelona and Netherlands midfielder Frenkie de Jong, 28, has emerged as a target for Manchester United. (Football Insider) "
Just emerged this apparently 😂.
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26 Sep 2025 07:23:54
Thanks for nudging the Amass post down with a bit of nostalgic humour Key.
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26 Sep 2025 15:01:38
Couple of days ago it was reported that FdJ has agreed a new contract with Barce until 2029 on reduced wages.
Given his known desire to stay at Camp Nou, on a scale of nought to a thousand on the credibility scale I would struggle to give this rumour a score of more than 2.
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26 Sep 2025 18:21:35
The modern day Wesley Sneijder.
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27 Sep 2025 09:53:15
Some transfer rumours are like a boomerang, quickly thrown out there but will soon return.
With the position our clubs holds in the world we get linked to far more than most clubs as it garners more attention. Often linked to a player who is negotiating a new deal, no doubt the media have found this information via the players agent or intermediaries. While other times our name is linked to a player who is looking for a move and they want to broadcast that to as many clubs as possible, so being linked to Manchester United makes more people sit up and pay attention to them. Then there are the quiet news week links, when there isn't much to report so the same name gets dragged up and reprinted as being of "interest" to Manchester United. It's just a throw away article designed as click bait.
Be that Strootman, Sneijder, Gaitan, or now Frenkie de Jong. Apparently we have something for Dutch players 😂.
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27 Sep 2025 10:38:53
Arriving with Strootman and Gaitan.
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27 Sep 2025 10:42:19
My friends, even though we face the difficulties of today and tomorrow, I still have a dream.
It is a dream deeply rooted in the United dream.
I have a dream that one day this team will rise up and live out the true meaning of 3-4-3.
I have a dream that one day on the red hills of the Trafford Centre, former players and the sons of former players will be able to sit down together at the table, and not have to criticise the team to earn a living.
I have a dream that my two children will finally see Wesley Sneijder grace the hallowed turf at Old Trafford, that Sesko will score a goal, and that we will at last have a goalkeeper who doesn’t create panic whenever the ball is near them. I have a dream.
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27 Sep 2025 14:14:51
Instead we live a nightmare!
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27 Sep 2025 14:45:21
Nightmare? Much like keeping up with your different login passwords Anotherupset, hence the timing of your post. Bet you couldn't wait to find your current login details.
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