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18 Jun 2015 12:45:57
Anyone know the odd's on Ed Woodward leaving this years pre-season tour for urgent transfer business?

EdtheRed

1.) 18 Jun 2015 13:49:11
3/1 with Sneijder being the target!


2.) 18 Jun 2015 15:21:48
How embarrassing was that, especially when he never signed anyone.


3.) 18 Jun 2015 19:05:16
It was probably urgent sponsorship business knowing us.


4.) 19 Jun 2015 09:21:31
Looks like he's just asked the players to do his deals for him, ADM, Depay and Rojo have all been pretty active on social media with our targets haha.


 

 

 

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21 Jul 2015 19:23:59
Hi All,

I read this site multiple times a day and post on the odd occasion.

I've been a united fan for decades, I'm a season ticket holder and fortunately I've had executive facilities for a number of years (evolution suite, table 44) and I've chatted to every legend that the club employ on match day.

During August and January I've always asked about signings, none seem to know what's in the pipeline (unless it's a blag) but I've met Paddy Mac, big Norm, Sammy Mc (best bloke ever), the ex Pro's know naff all.

EdtheRed

1.) 21 Jul 2015 20:44:59
If Paddy Crerands tips are as bad as his commentary then I wouldn't be taking any notice haha


 

 

16 Feb 2015 12:03:06
I read the site several times daily and get absorbed with other fans views on where they think we are and where we should be.

I go to watch united week in week out, home and away and I thought I would throw in my opinion.

I constantly watch us passing the ball through defence into midfield then string together 20 odd passes across the middle, maybe a little probe down the flanks (our possession stats reflect this) however if you watch the movement in front of the midfield (which you can't see on TV) it is non existent. It makes very little odds who is carrying the ball, the lack of movement is having an adverse effect on our chances created in the box. Couple this with the slow approach play (related to the lack of movement ahead) then 9 times out of ten the opposing team has set itself to defend.

I also notice that both Falcao and RVP tend to drop off to meet the ball from midfield with back to goal. IMHO, if LVG wants to persist with his current formation/nut bag use of one of the premier leagues top strikers in midfield, I would drop RVP and play Wilson. Falcao's movement off the ball is better than RVP's and Wilson brings pace into the attack.

Anyway, off to the pub soon, a few swift liveners before getting the train to Preston. Louis Van Gaal's red & white army!!

EdtheRed

1.) Hi Ed. It is exactly what I posted yesterday. Our strikers make no runs at all ACROSS the defence. They are neither static or make runs along channels. Neither of these are a good thing as the defence find it easy to pick them off.
If you watch the top strikers, messi, ronaldo, aguerro, Silva, they are always running across the defence making it very difficult for the CB's to pick them up. I think Wilson might be best equipped in our team to do this and I'm frustrated that our strikers don't do it.

{Ed001's Note - Wilson looks a real livewire, he deserves a lot more chances.}


2.) A refreshing read Ed. Hope u enjoy the game.


3.) 16 Feb 2015 15:41:19
Have a good one tonight mate. I think we will win, but I suspect it will be a bit of a slug fest.


 

 

26 Feb 2014 13:47:32
At the risk of repeating what has already been said, I don't think DM is a bad manager, he and his back room staff are just out of their depth.

Can anyone tell me of another world leading multi million pound business that would employ an individual to head up the 'coal side' face of the business without the necessary experience?

I don't buy this $hit that he did a great job at Everton on a limited budget, Tony Pulis and Roberto Martinez did great jobs on far less budgets.

I would be willing to give him another 6 months if he got shut of his backroom staff and brought in more experienced staff to assist in tactics, formations, player selections etc. etc.

I can't help feeling that we missed two great opportunities in Guardiola & Mourinho, top drawer managers experienced at top clubs. Van Gaal is available in summer, have a look at his CV, vast experience at the top clubs.

EdtheRed

1.) Moyes isn't a bad manager mate, the problem is IMO, is that he isn't high profile enough to convince the players he is the right man. If players do not have confidence in the manager, that will show on the pitch.


2.) Fully agree, bad appointment, he's not turning things around and doesn't look like he knows how. People forget we started ok this season, but have gone down hill since and its getting worse with little or no sign of improvement. I'm sure Fergie is regretting asking the fans to stand behind Moyes no matter what, even he couldn't have foreseen the totally breakdown on the club.


3.) You guys need to look at your poor squad rather than blaming the manager. Your defense is aging and slow, your midfield is non-existant but your strikeforce is immense. The problem is they have no service.

The only hope for you is to buy at least 6 new players. The problem is all the guys you are quoting like Gundolan, Kroos, Costa, etc. will have no interest in your team. Not everyone is like Rooney and only interested in the cash.

I would wish you luck but I am enjoying seeing you guys suffer.


4.) Chess,

How can this be the result of a poor squad?

It is almost the same as last season but with the wig added and now mata.

The difference between last year and now is the manager and backroom staff. We have younger options in defence, such as Jones & Evans, granted Buttner is tonk.


5.) But it is. Fergie got out at the right time. He knew he had to rebuild massively just to compete this year. Instead Moyes came in and could attract no one. Apart from your attack and Mata none of your players can cut it anymore.

I am not saying Moyes is not partly to blame as he is. He clearly cannot motivate his players and seems to be unable to get them to attack with speed like you have for years. However even Fergie would have struggled for top four this season.

I like Jones but Evans and Smalling are horrible. Cleverly is shocking and your wide players have forgotten what their job is.

I do fear for you though as I think you will struggle to make the Champions League for a long while (like Liverpool). You need both a better manager and a new squad and only massively overpaying for players is the answer now.


6.) Chess, so EPL winners in May, then two months later the squad is poor and aging. No doubt this squad needs investment, but the reason we are doing so poorly this season is down to the manager change.


7.) Yer Moyes isn't a bad manager but at United you can't just be a "manager", you need to have a presence and be a bit of a character. Genuinely think he has ran out of ideas and it's time for him to go. Simple


8.) Behave yourself Chess. On paper our squad is still well ahead of yours in terms of quality, the difference is Liverpool are currently a settled, confident side that's playing well. MU are an unsettled side, who are all over the place and clearly not playing well. You do not get a 40 point swing over one season. If SAF was still manager we would be much further ahead than we are.


9.) "Your wide players have forgotten what their job is"

No they haven't Chess, Moyes has clipped their wings. They are no longer allowed to take on players. Apparently as well as Vidic, Ferdinand and RvP, Valencia too is unhappy about what Moyes is asking him to do. If you watched the game last night you would have seen Valencia doubling up with Smalling. He never got forward, not once. If rumours are true then Valencia doesn't like what Moyes is asking him to do and that is why Valencia hasn't played much recently. #Moyestoonegative.


10.) Sydney

I watched the tactics employed, that is whilst they were still visible. I think Moyes felt the criticism about two wide players and moved Valencia off the wing and inside. If you recall there were a few occasions Valencia received the ball five to ten yards infield sometimes with his back to goal and unsurprisingly lost it. I believe Moyes may have been trying to drag the full back infield following Valencia to get Smalling free and galloping into the space left vacated. Of course Smalling is not that type of fullback. Valencia pulling infield could well be one of the reasons for RVP's comment as that put Valencia in the area where RVP would come short for the ball.


11.) It's an odd tactic Red Man as like you said Valencia is the winger, he's the one with pace to beat players. Last night it would have been nice to see Valencia make one forward run with the ball and cut it back across goal for Van Persie. I didn't see Valencia is that position once last night. That is probably one of the only things Valencia is good at, so why would Moyes take that out of his game?


12.) Sydney

I don't know, I am not sure what he was trying to do but could it be because he was criticised for too many crosses in a previous game?
I felt before the game that used properly Valencia could have given us pace on the break particularly against teams who push their fullbacks up.


 

 

20 Jan 2014 14:27:01
I think DM likes to tell a few porkies. "we know we need some new players but we won't panic buy"

Can someone please tell me what Fellaini was?

I would guess at a £27m panic buy. If that muppet Ed Woodward can justify £27m as value for money for the wig, then surely bid's in the region of £35-£45m for top quality proven midfielders is acceptable.

However, there are cheaper options always knocking about, Luiz Gustavo, went for around £10m, Strootman £17m, that's the same amount of money as for the wig, for one deep lying cm and one box to box, who would have improved the team.

Like a lot of people on here, I pay for 6 season tickets at OT year in year out, all I want is to be entertained for my money. I'm not ar**d about winning the league every year, I like walking away thinking 'what a match that was'

In the past the next game couldn't come quick enough, the crowd were always up for it, now, you can sense the nerves, the singha is going flat, the pies are tasting crap and some people are using their scarves to hang off the door frame of the toilets.

EdtheRed

1.) Fellaini was NOT a panic buy. Moyes was chasing him the whole way through the transfer window. The only reason it went through at the last minute is because we thought we could get him for less than £22m. As it happened we were wrong.


2.) I accept your point on us pursuing him throughout the summer sticking in stupid joint bids for him and Baines, but, it was obvious that we did not value him at £27m or even at his reported £23.5m release clause (which had expired) therefore instead of walking away, we panicked and coughed up the cash as we had run out of time to pursue other targets.


3.) City bought a lot of players in the previous summer for probably too much. It generally happen when you don't do your main business early and leave it to last day. Just like everything it comes down to how motivated the buyer is and how smart the seller is. Berbatov rings a bell if I may say.


4.) I honestly believe that we intended on signing him no matter what and were just waiting for Everton to crack and settle for one of our stupid offers. The fact that they didn't is what lead us to pay the extra money.


5.) Moyes just wanted half the Everton team! Fellani was a terrible buy, Coleman or Baines, or Jags but Fellani? Come on! withe the quality of years gone by, Keane, Ince, Robson, Scholes, 27 million of a donkey like fellani?? Unbelievable! And it took him all summer to get him! LOL Please god Fergie can have some influence in the signing of players this year, until he learns how to manage a massive club!


6.) Shamlik

Baines is the best left back in the league and given how many goals we are conceding from Evra's side he would have made a massive difference.

Coleman at the moment is by far the better player than rafael in terms of consistency, so I would have no complaints if we had them.

Kind of arrogant to dismiss players because they play for a smaller club.


7.) I am very confident that you will all eat your words about Fellaini. He came to us after the season had started with the entire expectations of the transfer window put on him. He had no pre season and time to settle in with us, and walked straight into a minefield. Give the guy some time to settle and get properly fit, add in some new players and a settled team and he will be a valuable player for us.


8.) Redseven is spot on. The reason Moyes is now despised by so many Evertonians is because of the way he disrespected his former employers by pursuing Baines and Fellaini with insulting, derisory offers throughout the summer. He then tried the "I think that EFC are holding back their careers" tactic as a means of unsettling them both.
Fellaini was the only one to crack, submitting a written transfer request with only a few hours to go. He cost you a further 4 million or so because your club were greedy and thought Everton would accept a lower offer was his get out clause had expired in July.

I hope this hasn't offended anyone on this site, but I thought it only right to defend redseven who is factually correct.
By the way, please do not consider coming in for Ross Berklay or Seamus Coleman. Neither is for sale and we don't want a repeat of last summer which has soured relations between the two clubs.


9.) Imo we would have been better off buying McCarthy for £ 13 million rather than buying Fellaini for over twice that .
We would then have had £ 14 million to spend on a cb or lb


10.) Daveyboy, I posted this a few days ago, and agree with you in principle that we tried, and failed, to land Fellaini on the cheap. But it was Ed Woodward and the "money men" who made the offers. When will people come to understand that football managers do not do the negotiations for players. If that is the reason why so many Everton fan despise David Moyes, as you put it, then they need to find a more valid reason for their feelings.
Oh, and Fellaini didn't crack, as you call it. He merely wanted to push the deal through because he wanted to play for a bigger club, the same reason as Roberto Martinez went to yourselves.


11.) Betty - Moyes does not deal with the money but if Fellaini and Fabregas were the only two players Moyes could come up with to improve our midfield there is something wrong there.

For starters; Fellaini was and is not what we need. The fact that he was earmarked at all is bad enough. The fact that far better players were ignored because Moyes was adamant that Fellaini was the answer to all of our problems is unforgivable.


12.) Redseven, but that was not the point of my post ( which was basically agreeing with your!). The point was that Moyes doesn't do the nagotiations. As for the rest of your post, are you sure he only earmarked Fellaini and Fabregas? Herrera? DeRossi? Khedira? Bale? There are probably more but the truth is we don't KNOW who Moyes wanted in the summer. Most of it is fed to us by the media, buy I can almost guarantee you that there will be players that we are interested in that we, nor the madia know about.


13.) Betty - He may well have earmarked more than three players. I'm not sure there has been any real confirmation of any of the players you mentioned apart from Herrera - but that (as well as all of the rumours) came at the eleventh hour.

If he'd got his head screwed on he would have questioned whether the bids for Cesc and the joint bid for Fellaini and Baines (which was ridiculous) were ever likely to succeed. He worked at Everton for some time and should have known how much it would take to pry the players away if it was at all possible.

He could have either insisted on the board paying that or moved on to other targets. At the very least we would have gotten the Coentrao deal through on time that way.

He could have also questioned whether it would be worth bringing Fellaini in on deadline day for a few million saved (which was all we were ever likely to save by allowing his clause to lapse) or having him in a month earlier in order to have more time to acclimatise to life at the club.


14.) Problem is he bought fellaini but by Moyes s own admission, he wanted to play him in a date naive midfield roll, while fellaini excelled at everton when he played a more forward roll. So what was the thinking behind that.
I know we've not seen a lot of fellaini, but he didn't seem too comfortable as a defensive midfielder.


 

 

15 Jan 2014 16:20:55
If we are to believe DM's comments about it being very difficult to bring in the right players during the January transfer window as clubs don't want to sell during mid season as replacements are hard to find, why doesn't he buy in January and loan back for the remainder of the season, like we did with Zaha?

At least as fans we would see some light at the end of the tunnel and we would know that the club is addressing the weakness' in the squad.

This type of business would also get around a) Further price hikes for players who star at the world cup and b) The real possibility of not being able to attract the cream if we cannot offer ECL football.

Just a bit of food for thought!

EdtheRed

1.) Great shout, especially as signing players while a W.C. is on is difficult at best

{Ed004's Note - Im not so sure. I think we need 6 players before next season and I think it's better if you bed in 2-3 in each window. Though in all fairness I wouldn't complain if tomorrow i woke up to Vidal signed and will move in summer}


2.) Agree with Ed04 on this one. Too many new players joining at once will have an adverts affect on the pitch. Either we start next season still needing 3-4 players or we start with a first 11 who know nothing about laying with each other or for Manchester United and those that could teach them what that means (Evra, Giggs, Vidic, Ferdinand) will no longer be playing.


 

 

 

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18 Jun 2019 19:10:10
Ed002, a tad harsh, don’t you think?

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{Ed002's Note - No, that was the time when they were brining in young kids. Busby did the same.}


 

 

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21 Apr 2016 11:58:32
MDB,

I left with 3 minutes still on the clock, the place had emptied at that point. I don't care what figures the club put out, the attendance last night was far less, I don't think there was even 1000 palace fans there.

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13 May 2015 10:02:03
I'd have had him back a couple of years ago.

My issue now would be that Ronaldo is all about Ronaldo and that 4th Ballon D'or. Could you see him passing like Suarez did last night, taking the better option?

Thanks but no thanks for me.

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Are you sure it wasn't Rooney's hair transplant gone mental!

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Everton play Juve tonight in San Fransisco

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02 Feb 2016 12:31:27
Red Man, I think your spot on.

If we take off our red tinted glasses, it is obvious that from the new owners taking over at citeh, they had a clear plan for the future, 8 years down the line, they have a good squad, extended their ground, built great training facilities and appointed a top quality manager add to that the trophies they have won it has been a success story.

However, their commitment to success on the field has made them weak in the official noodle partners market.

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16 Jun 2015 11:10:14
I think we should keep him unless the clubs valuation is met.

Regardless of whether he would be unhappy about another year in Manchester or not, he needs top performances under his belt with the Euro's looming next year.

Just remember, we could always do a deal with Atletico, that would put him back in his home city, if that is what he truly desires.

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26 May 2015 12:26:34
My 7 year old wants a new shirt for next season, so I think we should only sign players with 5 letters or less in their surname to keep costs down. So Clyne(Alves has his full name), Vidal and Bale. I don't even think you could fit Schweinsteiger across a 7 year olds shoulders unless they've been on the old Lance Armstrong vitamins.

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20 May 2015 10:32:26
Can I just say Beast, I was there last night and following the awards ceremony, all the first team left without signing anything or any sort of interaction with the fans. LVG stayed for well over an hour, took the time to have pictures with hundreds of people, signed autographs etc. the man is a legend!

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12 May 2015 10:55:31
I think if you were looking at players to add experience and depth to the squad, not necessarily guaranteed to start every week, you could add Khedira, De Jong and Alves for nothing in terms of transfer fees. I would also suspect that their wages could be covered by off loading Nani and RVP/Falcao.

I also believe that Chiellini becomes a free agent at the end of the season, again not bad in terms of packing out the depth of the squad. I know it would be unrealistic to bring all these in, but to answer your question, great experience for minimal outlay, then Ed can blow his transfer kitty, plus any additional funds from sales and before you know it, the guy is a genius!!

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