27 May 2026 16:27:25
Barcelona apparently close to signing Gordon yet they won’t stump up the very fair price for Rashford who I think is a better player. I don’t know what this means for Rashford, I don’t know what he thinks of the whole thing.
Potentially they’ll look to sign both but that would surprise me. I really hope there is another club prepared to make a bid for him.
Just out of interest, who does everyone think we’ll sign for midfield?! .?
27 May 2026 17:32:38
If they can afford Gordon, then imo he is a much better buy and a much better player than Rashford.
Watching them celebrate, Rashford was like a lost soul wandering around on his own most of the time.
Let's hope they want both of them. If they do, will Rashford sign knowing he'll be on the bench even more than he was this year? He probably would sign for them anyway, I'm not sure he is that bothered if he doesn't play much.
They can flip him on in Jan or next summer for a profit.
Maybe we can twist someone else's arm, maybe Villa will take him.
Just 1 more conundrum for the club.
27 May 2026 18:04:35
For someone on the bench like you, insinuating he got enough assists & goals, many more than Gordon did. Earlier you were barracking Red Man for being biased, of course you're not, are you?
27 May 2026 18:24:10
He started 18 league games. Less than half.
No bias there at all. He spent more time off the pitch than on it, just a fact, not an insinuation.
If I had the option of signing either for a club, I'd sign Gordon. No bias, I just think he has more to offer, he works harder for the team.
Are Barcelona biased in their opinion? Is the manager biased against him, selecting him less than half the time?
Redman has a bias against the owners, and he owns and admits that.
I'm not sure what your point is. He readily admits this, it was not an accusation, more a statement of fact.
I'd have a bias against Ole, for example, but not against Rashford.
Preferring one player over another is not showing bias, it's just an opinion.
Hopefully Barcelona sign Rashford and Gordon goes to Bayern.
27 May 2026 18:30:17
I did not barrack Redman. People are allowed to disagree and make points, and Redman is entitled to disagree. Redman defends his position and opinion, and does it well.
Bias will come through occasionally, and on certain topics more than occasionally for most of us.
I'm sure some of your log in names show bias on some subjects, and other log in names show it on other topics. So, you probably don't know if you're coming or going.
27 May 2026 18:49:34
If they want to offer a lower fee, we should negotiate a sell on %.
27 May 2026 19:41:36
Both good players, but Gordon is younger, on lower wages, and has a longer contract, which means, on an amortised basis, he would cost Barca a similar amount per year to Rashford, all things considered.
27 May 2026 21:04:06
DSG, that's it. Not that he is a better player than Rashford (he isn't, by the way), but he will be cheaper.
27 May 2026 21:09:59
In your opinion, he is not better, Angel. Others think he is better.
27 May 2026 21:29:24
Agreed, Angel, Rashford is a better player for me. Think Tuchel will have the same view come the World Cup first game for England.
27 May 2026 21:31:53
DSG, I'd like to see your numbers on that, please.
Rashford has agreed to take 200k per week, allegedly, 14m per year circa 10m per year on a 4 year deal plus his fee of 26m. Total 66m.
Assuming Gordon is on a 5 year contract, his fee amortisation before wages is 14m a year, plus minimum 5m a year in wages.
Total 95m, with 1 extra year to use.
But let's face it, neither of us knows the figures, and we are both making assumptions.
27 May 2026 21:42:57
Barca and Rashford know how many people do not want him back, so the power is not with United. Barca will buy Gordon for the left, and then agree another loan with United, but with an obligation next summer instead. Rashford will then be used as a utility forward across the front line as needed.
27 May 2026 22:04:45
Not to get too knee-deep in the weeds on finances, as I am a football finance amateur, but:
Gordon = EUR80m over 5 years is EUR16m.
Rashford = EUR30m over 3 years is EUR10m.
Gordon salary EUR8m a year based on rumours.
Rashford current salary is around EUR15m a year with the Champions League reduction.
So annual cost for Gordon is 16+8 = 24 a year, and Rashford is 10+15 = 25 a year, even if he agrees to keep his Champions League reduction to join Barca on lower wages than he would earn if he moved back to United.
So pretty similar deals based on my assumptions, which could be wrong clearly, but not as simple as the "oh Barca will pay 80m for Gordon but cant stump up 30m for Rashy" narrative.
Rashford is one of the best paid players in the Premier League if he comes back to United based on the contract he signed. Going to be hard to shift if the Barcelona door closes.
27 May 2026 22:06:29
In fairness, they might be looking at Gordon or Rashford as a cf, with Lewy moving on.
I'm very much hoping they will still sign Rashford. He has proven he can be effective as a rotation player. He is also good in big games quite often, and he does score goals.
I think he is a sniper at 26 m, and a very saleable asset if he takes lower wages, as it will be a lot easier for clubs to afford him. A loan with obligation is kicking the can down the road for Barcelona, and that might suit them and us.
27 May 2026 22:19:35
Rashford is a snip in terms of his football output. However, Barca have seen him up close, so can assess his mentality. Barcelona nightlife may have been tempting, and he may have shown his United attitude, but we just don't know.
Rashford's salary is a consideration. He is in the England WC squad. Gordon is a good player, but hit and miss. Surprised at Barca, but it may relieve some financial pressure at Newcastle, making it more difficult for Tonali admirers.
27 May 2026 22:30:25
According to The Guardian, Gordon is set to double his wages to £300k pw and is going to cost close to £70m. That's apparently 50% more wages than Rashford would have settled for, and 2X the transfer cost.
We all know his shortcomings. I can't see him starting for us ahead of Cunha or Dorgu.
He simply doesn't have the defensive qualities needed in the EPL. He would provide depth for European games, but according to reports, the hierarchy don't want him back. This could well end up with just another loan.
27 May 2026 22:13:54
Yes ken, that's my opinion and you have yours, although you usually caveat yours with how far superior your footballing opinions are to others.
I think he's proven to be better at this time having played for Man United, Barcelona and England. Gordon is yet to reach those heights, that could change of course.
27 May 2026 22:42:51
Yeah, it's thought it might ease the pressure on Newcastle, Red Man, if we are indeed in for Tonali, which I'd like to think we are. Smashing player ino, and the sort of quality we need.
I think he is better than Anderson right now, but I also think Anderson has more improvement to come.
It might mean Newcastle will be harder to deal with.
They have Harvey Barnes, Elanga, and Murphy, so are well stocked out wide.
They, imo, wasted their Isaak money last year with 2 bad buys up front and were relying on a kid at the end of the season. Hall and Tonali are both likely to be sold for further investment, but they will need to spend their money more wisely, not unlike ourselves. Over a billion of tripe bought under Woodward and co.
27 May 2026 23:01:40
I have never once said my opinion is superior to anybody else's.
I am not a subject matter expert at that level of professional sport, nor have I ever once claimed to be.
I think you'll find the caveat I use most is 'imo'. Rarely, unlike yourself, do I give my opinion as fact unless I have something factual to back it up.
If I think someone has what I consider to be a dumb opinion, I'll say it and give a different perspective.
But that will only be my opinion of their opinion. If someone chooses to get offended by my opinion of their opinion, then that's not my intention, and perhaps a debating site of differing opinions is not the place for them. They need to remember it's just my opinion. No big deal.
27 May 2026 23:37:09
I wonder if the door is open for Rashy now Carrick has been appointed. It's no secret we are light up front, and are maybe looking at another wide forward. Rashford ticks those boxes as a versatile forward and costs us his salary only?
28 May 2026 02:09:06
Gordon a done.
28 May 2026 05:18:09
Rashford will post better figures in goals and assists every season than Gordon. I don’t think that’s a doubt; you're misreading the situation. Barca have no need to push on the Rashford deal. He is already there and stated it's the only place he really wants to be, so why would Barca jump in if they can do another loan deal for him, leaving money free for Gordon or whoever? Why are you reading it as one or the other player? It’s no great shame not playing every week at Barca, but it’s good when you are called upon that you score or assist.
I would take Rashford every day of the week above Gordon, and twice on Sundays. Barca are probably building a squad for a year's time when Pep heads back there, which is why I said previously we should approach Hansi Flick now as manager.
28 May 2026 08:27:54
Now, don't spit your dummy out, Jsu, as it's AI stats.
Last 3 seasons.
Rashford has 29 goals, Gordon has 38.
Rashford has 16 assists, and Gordon has 21.
Top scoring season for the last 3, Gordon has 17 goals, Rashford 14.
Maybe it's a language barrier, or they count differently in German.
28 May 2026 08:42:18
Anyone who wants Rashford back must have their heads buried in the sand. He was a disruptive influence, he disrespected the club when he was partying and couldn't attend training, and he meandered around the pitch.
He had the shirt, and he didn't respect it. Sell him for tuppence for all I care, but he must not come back. I do not want him, and if the club try this reformed character nonsense, they are back to the Ole nonsense era. Get rid.
28 May 2026 09:00:39
I think the vast majority of United fans would agree, Redman.
Gordon, imo, is a better player. He scores more, he assists more, he works harder, but the odd numpty will argue otherwise and tell you misleading info based on info in their own head. But if you have several personalities within the same head, there is bound to be confusion.
28 May 2026 09:06:07
The odd numpty. There he is. ?
28 May 2026 09:07:21
EUR30m fee for Rashford is cheap, wages are not representative of the player's ability. His output in terms of goals and assists were OK at best. The fact he has had two loans, and nobody has taken him, especially Barce, as both parties were very keen to begin with, suggests there is more to this.
Barce got to try before they bought, and, on the face of it, have gone No thank you.
It is the stupidest contract this club has given out to date; the data showed he wasn't consistent. Crazy.
28 May 2026 09:17:50
Ken, you are so far up your own behind on all things football. You have put yourself on top of that mighty high horse that you can't see the wood from the trees. Sometimes I think you believe you have some God given right on here. I think even ed001 called it out recently. You have also been banned from the page having to set up a new profile ?
I will have an opinion on something, mainly based upon stats, but I never claim it to be the right opinion, just mine. You on the other hand will resort to name calling, say that you have bast superior knowledge on the subject etc etc. And when called out on it, you'll probably resort to more name calling. But you do you ?
And where has Gordon scored more goals and made more assists than Marcus Rashford. Google is your friend, and a simple search will tell you, that is not the case. Rashford comes out on top for goals and assists per game across his career.
Just take this season alone, I think Gordon only has 2 assists and has played many more games than rashford, not to mention minutes.
28 May 2026 09:47:11
Last 3 seasons were the stats I asked for, Angel. I think it's more relevant to a buying team to look at recent stats, as opposed to stats when one player was playing while the other was still at school.
28 May 2026 09:53:29
Don't be a handbag angel playing they're victim suits you but don't labour on it.
The respo se was to German fella who said and I quote
Rashford will post better figures in goals and assists every season than Gordon. I don't think that's a doubt;
So its not about opinion just facts disputing and outrageously incorrect claim yet again.
28 May 2026 10:41:40
He's only played the last 3 seasons has he? Fml.
Rashford only existed then. Gordon had 2 assists in the PL last season.
28 May 2026 11:18:53
Rashford had none in the EPL last season.
I think you will find buying clubs will be more interested in the more recent stats and outputs.
Oh, maybe that's why Barcelona bought him.
Rashford's stats from 4 plus years ago won't be taken into consideration by his next club.
Last 3 years is a fair reflection on most recent form.
59 g+a for Gordon and 43 for Rashford.
Google is my friend.
Now, last season is not comparable, as they were playing in different leagues, where they both had a combined 21.
So, the 2 previous seasons when both were in the same league.
Gordon had 38 v Rashford's 22.
Based on your criteria, Barcelona should be in for Olivier Giroud. He has more than both over his career. ???
28 May 2026 10:21:40
Now name calling angel. You called amorim a fraud among other personal insults. So do you only name call those that can't answer back. Get off your own high horse ya numpty?
28 May 2026 11:18:20
angel
Given your responses to me over a long period, I think you have some nerve calling out Ken.
28 May 2026 11:53:54
Oooh. ??
28 May 2026 13:42:51
I think the brown one is Angel AJH and the pink one belongs to his pal Tinky Winky.
28 May 2026 13:51:43
I love English players being snapped up by the top European teams, whether Kane/Trent/Bellingham and now seemingly Gordon. Can only improve them, and also help our national team (I know most seem not to care, but I enjoy that too).
However, gotta admit I was stunned to see Gordon linked with Barca, and even more so now it appears to have actually happened. He's incredibly fast and direct, but I never saw his ability at that level.
28 May 2026 14:27:40
It came a bit out of the blue, spenno. But when you look at his figures over last 3 seasons they are very good, and much better outputs than Rashford.
English youngsters and snr pros should play more at the top clubs around Europe. It would help your national team, I think for sure.
28 May 2026 14:36:39
You and your alto ego come up with some belters. Usually you say you take no notice of stats, but today you made them up to suit your argument, as per. But the reality is, Gordon got 6 goals this season, 2 assists in about 26 games.
Rashford, 8 goals and 7 assists in the league alone; we won't even bother with the 5&3 in the Champions League.
But of course you rock on with your factual opinion!
28 May 2026 14:39:51
You talk some twaddle Ken and then get all gun ho when your wrong and start abusing everyone, but that's ok everyone knows.
28 May 2026 14:49:55
Tumble you should also invest in a new computer because you must have some 3rd world google too, that or you had too many sherberts and it's effecting your eyesight
28 May 2026 15:42:57
Gordon scored 17 goals last season. Rashford scored 14. Check your computer for a virus.
28 May 2026 15:52:10
Jsu, in the last 3 seasons, how many goals has Rashford?
How many assists has Rashford had in the last 3 seasons?
How many goals has Gordon scored in the last 3 seasons, and how many assists has he had?
Please then come back to me and explain why you quoted
"Rashford will post better figures in goals and assists every season than Gordon." I don't think that's a doubt.
Over the last 3 seasons, Gordon has scored and assisted more than Rashford.
I'm not sure why you made that up.
You're mistaken, or your perception was wrong. I was a little surprised myself by the gulf in numbers, but it explains why Barcelona fancy him. Is it your ego that won't allow you to admit that you were wrong? It's not that rare an occurrence, so you should be used to it.