06 Feb 2026 13:54:32
In your opinions, of the following players who has had the best career at Manchester united?
and secondly who do you think the club got the best value out of?
John o Shea
Phil neville
Bruno Fernández
Nicky Butt
In order i'd say
O Shea
Butt
Neville
Bruno.
Just my opinion. Individually I don't think the others are as good as bruno but football is not an individual game.
Its all about team stats not Individual stats.
Having a brilliant individual does not make a team.
There are so many ways to look at various situations.
Rarely is the answer black or white the truth is usually somewhere in the grey.
I think bruno would swap all his personal stats and achievements for the medals those lads won as part of successful teams.
06 Feb 2026 15:04:01
3 of those players were under the tutelage of SAF and won a lot.
Bruno has played under 6 different managers at United ? I think we have had poor squads and poor managers, the last one the worst.
I think it's unfair on Bruno as he has really been a part of a very strange period for the club. That's why I'm hoping that he stays for another couple of years and we can put real quality around him on order to win trophies, he deserves it.
A bit like Robson at the end of his days, was kept and finally saw a league title at the end of his tenure.
06 Feb 2026 15:29:36
Sorry Ken but that's a weird way to look at it. By this view you are saying that the likes of Smalling, Jones, Buttner, Anderson, Kagawa Lingard etc had better careers than Bruno just because they won PL medals.
06 Feb 2026 15:45:27
Absolutely UA.
Its the essence of team sport. The team results.
Im not saying they are better players individually but united did better out of them and they did better out of united because they won leagues.
Anybody could have an opinion that bruno would have enhanced those teams if he was in them. But it would be just an Unproven opinion.
There is nothing to say this teams would have been better with bruno in them nor that they would have won those medals in the current team.
Different times but they're is no doubting in my mind that those players have had better united careers than bruno. Personal stats are vanity team stats are sanity.
Did messie turn miami into winners?
Did ngolo kante help turn Leicester into winners.
Did shearer help turn Blackburn into league winners?
Nobody can dismiss brunos personal stats but its all about how the team does not any individual.
Its just a different way of looking at the situation.
The best players usually do.
06 Feb 2026 15:58:32
Mctom is quality. Want beside bruno.
Lots of others have done in to win league titles at other clubs but couldn't with him at united.
We have spent close to a billion and got nowhere close to a title with him.
He had his time and his chances.
He won't be short of top offers I think he will take one because I think he will want to leave and try something new.
Its just my guess as I don't have a clue what he feels and thinks but I'm feel he will want to win big trophies his time is running out.
He also might want to take the huge money on offer in Saudi and who could blame him for that either.
06 Feb 2026 17:02:24
UA. Bruno's personal stats stand up against the very best.
He smashes scholes for goals and assists. Same for Cantona or Robson or keane or Beckham or Carrick or Hughes and the list goes on but I don't think you could argue that he's had a better united career than any of them despite his impressive personal stats. Or that united have got more from him than those above.
Perhaps its just a case of right person at the wrong time under the wrong 6 managers. With all the wrong multi million pound players.
He will go down as one of our very best players to not win a title.
Unless he decides to stay which is just as possible. He does love the club and i'm sure he would like to win a title at united above anywhere else.
He might like the new project new coach etc. Amorim convinced him to stay last summer the next new coach might want to and be able to do the same.
I do feel that cunha dorogu amad sesko mbeumo are better than some of his previous partners in attack. We could try to get another pair of 60m midfielders behind him and another pair of 50m full backs and another pair of 70m cbs it might work under manager no7 who knows. i'd like to think so.
We just have to wait and see if he wants to give it one last throw if the dice or if he fancies a new challenge.
Either way it would be nice to know early so we can skip a summer of will he stay or will he go!
06 Feb 2026 17:26:23
Ken can i counter you by saying that all those players had better players playing alongside them. Has Bruno ever got a Rooney who would run through a brick wall, or a van Persie to bang them in or a Keane or Giggs or a defense of Stam, Ferdinand, Vidic et al or a van der sar in goal. My point here being that i agree with you on it being a team game but for that you need quality everywhere which unfortunately Bruno hasn't had to work with including the manager.
Happy to agree to disagree on this one with you buddy.
06 Feb 2026 18:02:00
Agreed UA.
Very different times under very different circumstances. Poor united teams, lots of managers, chops and changes for years but he has been one of the only constants throughout. He has never had the personnel around him or a real solid base like those you mention who played under Fergie.
Let's hope we can kick on and give him a couple of trophies before he leaves.
06 Feb 2026 19:11:02
All valid points UA.
06 Feb 2026 22:20:42
Angel, can you not see the positives that Amorim brought to the table, at all?
Results aside, as that is your fixation. think of the players he literally bombed out of the club, all those problem players we had onboard.
He killed the player power culture, something others had tried to do.
I think for that alone, he doesn't hold the 'worst of them all' title.
I know you won't let it go, I am just trying to see if you actually acknowledge the good things he brought to the club.