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25 Oct 2023 09:30:03
Hi Guys,

Just quick one on last night. in relation to hojlands substitution was there a mistake made by the people on the line or did ten hag change his mind after he seen rashfords reaction?

jayo84

1.) 25 Oct 2023 10:41:16
Hojlund had already been announced as the sub at the previous corner but we didn’t make it so I think the official made a mistake the 2nd time.


2.) 25 Oct 2023 12:49:16
No, ETH decided to delay the substitution until after the corner.

Although Rashford was very poor and should’ve been hooked. I was in a different seat last night, in the gods. It made it very easy to see just how lazy he is after he was switched to the right. Most of their play came down their left hand side after the change.


 

 

23 Oct 2022 10:18:53
As a fellow Irishman Roy keane was my idol growing up watching utd and i have defended him over the years when he makes his customary outbursts but last night's commentary and statements on the Ronaldo situation was just dillusional.

I just wish neville or jfh asked Roy if Ronaldo is so upset from not getting into the team why doesn't he act like a proper professional put his head down work hard and take his chance when he gets it. like every other squad player has to do instead of thinking he's bigger than everyone.

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1.) 23 Oct 2022 10:56:28
Jayo.
Keane had the exact same situation at united and Ireland.
If it was not the way Roy wanted it toys came out of the pram.
I didn't matter how good you are a player is only a player and answerable to the masjid and managers decisions.
Keane got above his station at times just like ronaldo.
Scholes also refused to come on as a sub one time so he has been a little quiet on this for once.
Ronaldo standing in the game counts for nothing. It's the here and now that matters not the past.
#jogonron.


2.) 23 Oct 2022 11:16:17
#jogonron.


3.) 23 Oct 2022 11:23:01
I guess you also have to remember that Ronaldo was part of the same group of players under Fergie, there is already a relationship there that means that there is already a bias on any viewpoint.


4.) 23 Oct 2022 11:50:24
Spot on, Keane last night was a rite prat. Ronaldos behaviour on Wednesday was disgraceful. Then just as stupid that bint on BT talking absolute cobblers saying ten hag lacks man management skills ?? he's handled it brilliantly. But Keane, sorry lad you're talking utter nonsense. You can't let Ronaldo do that, and not to see he's been woeful is just plain stupid punditry.


5.) 23 Oct 2022 13:14:08
I'm not sure why the host did not say to keane that his position on this is probably the reason why he is a failed manager on numerous occasions and he should bow to the know how of proper managers.
I'd love to see his reaction to that?.


6.) 23 Oct 2022 13:39:35
Any one with an ounce of sense can see ETH has handled it brilliantly! Ronaldo for the first time has come across a United manager who won’t bow to him! Time for him to go!


7.) 23 Oct 2022 16:34:57
I'm not condoning Ronaldo's actions here at all. I've been quite vocal the other way. Bit I do think it's relevant that EtH asked him to come on 3 minutes before the end of the game. Why? Was that remotely necessary? Was he trying to rub Ronaldo's nose in the reality that this is a much better team without him?

My guess is that whatever EtH has said in public in private he has made in known to the Board that Ronaldo is a hindrance to United's progress. And as United show more success on the field so EtH's authority will grow within the club. His treatment of Ronaldo may be part of that struggle.


8.) 23 Oct 2022 19:42:32
Shawthing
There’s no difference in bringing on garnacho or ronaldo or any other player for 3 mins, they are all squad players and should act as such.

It’s the principle of the whole thing and eth has handled it very well in my opinion.

If he had come on for those 3 mins he would have been in the squad for Chelsea game. And that game was desperate for someone like him to be clinical and put away one of the many chances we had.

All ronaldos own doing. I’m happy for him to stay if he winds his neck in and just gets on with being a squad player, like he always claims to be.


9.) 23 Oct 2022 21:18:26
I don't buy the 3 minute thing as being disrespectful. Manager wants to waste time bringing on a sub in a game he is winning just kill abit more time.

You're paid to do a job and paid very well to do it. You're part of a team so you do what needed and if that means you trot on the pitch slowly and do what you can to see out the game you do it.

Tactically, well Ronaldos useful defending a corner if nothing else.

I am not sure why this has to be overthought in that he is trying to rub Ronnie's nose in it. I highly doubt he's thinking of that at all, Ten Hag I'd doing what he needs to do to be successful as a manager.

As for ronnie the guy has been a pretty switched on operator in terms of public image for a long time and I am sure his decision was calculated just as he fully well knew the reaction.


10.) 24 Oct 2022 09:19:04
Bringing on a sub doesn't waste time, I've heard that a lot over the years from commentators and ex players who should know better. The ref is supposed to add a minimum of 30 seconds for each sub, so in reality it can actually add on a bit extra.


11.) 24 Oct 2022 10:24:52
I love Roy Keane, as a player he was everything you wanted from a captain. His leadership skills probably overshadowed his footballing quality which was also fantastic. Often underrated as a player, or at least his technical ability and intelligence are often not fully appreciated.

He often has insightful and intelligent things to say as a pundit, and I often enjoy listening to what he has to say even if I don't always agree with it.

That said everyone has blind spots, areas where they struggle to see things from a different perspective either because they can't or don't want to. Keane had one with Ole who was a friend and clearly a person Keane admires. He has one with Ronaldo as well, probably due to him seeing close up how hard working and dedicated he was as a professional. Something Keane values extremely highly.

Keane was also unable to see how his actions as a senior player was actually detrimental to the team in his final season at the club and was the driving force behind his acrimonious exit. Maybe he can't see that in Ronaldo because it's too close to home.

I don't think any more or less of Keane for it. He's entitled to his opinions and views, I still don't have to agree with them. I think it's important in life for us to be able to disagree with people but still respect them and even like them.


12.) 24 Oct 2022 13:29:35
Red Paul,

And you think that happens do you? Half the time they add no time on for subs. You’re 100% correct making a sub shouldn’t waste time, but managers continue to do it because it definitely does. There is an easy fix, but nobody seems willing to do it.


 

 

16 Aug 2022 16:08:02
Hi Guys,

Just wondering in relation to the cess pit that is twitter is there any actual reliable correspondent or pundit on there?

i see plenty of guys proclaiming to spout the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth on the platform but just curious if anyone knew if any are worth paying attention to

Thanks.

jayo84

1.) 16 Aug 2022 18:03:38
Fabrizio romano is genuine for the most part.


2.) 16 Aug 2022 18:04:17
About as much honesty and truth as you'll find in Westminster, about as reliable as the typical Westminster employee as well.


3.) 16 Aug 2022 19:30:20
David Ornstein is 100% the most reliable this summer.


4.) 16 Aug 2022 21:59:15
Laurie Whitwell seem well thought off alongside David Ornstein.


 

 

13 Aug 2022 22:19:19
I seriously would love to know what happens in training mid week prior to a game that makes eth think "ya he's up for it I'm going to start him"?!

We got a new manager who firstly kept the same captain who procided over the absolute mess that has gone on the last 18 months and secondly has rewarded the same players who have not even broke a sweat or fought for the cause only picked up there big fat pay cheque in the last year by starting them every week. and we as supporters think things were going to change?!

Under ole they said they had no leadership or no instructions under ralf they said the same plus they reckoned he had poor coaching staff. wonder what their excuse is now?

As a fan I woukd take watching 11 players play for the Jersey every week no matter the result but to expect the fans to watch the same con men do the same thing to another manager is just crazy.

jayo84

1.) 13 Aug 2022 22:40:18
i might be wrong but i beleive each squad player puts their name in a hat and they pull 11 names out 30 mins before kick off.


2.) 13 Aug 2022 22:46:29
I think that the new manager came into a club that simply doesn’t care about the footballing side of the business.

He doesn’t trust the current scouting setup and has clearly fought against bringing in players that the club would have identified prior to his appointment. In many respects, you can’t blame him. The club’s scouting team has been appalling over the last decade bringing in dud after dud. However, this created a problem with the manager stuck bringing in players he has worked with or has scouted in the past. More importantly it has left him with a squad of genuinely toxic players that seem to bring everyone down to their level. People argue that you can’t solve everything in one window. The worry is that the longer this squad stays in place, the more likely it is that new signings will pick up their bad habits.

Rangnik was right, the squad needs open heart surgery. The attitude of senior players is appalling. They’re still being out worked by every team they come up against. They don’t have the drive to run back on defence, press consistently or even win their 50/ 50s. It’s a team that just can’t be arsed regardless of who is coaching them.

I’ve been banging the same drum since the mid 00s, the club won’t ever get back to where it was until it has owners and a operational structure that actually cares about the football. The club had the opportunity to bring in a DoF from outside, who could identify the problems and begin to change things. They chose the easy option to carry on as normal and we’re here again. These players have seen off manager after manager and won’t put in the effort ETH needs them to. They know the manager will take the fall and they’ll continue to pick up their wages.


3.) 13 Aug 2022 22:59:36
RR was the perfect guy to help the club take a step in the right direction. They didn't back him or have a belief in him.

At least ETH isn't afraid to publicly shame the players. I think Martinez needs to start in midfield, play varane, Bailly, malacia and unfortunately Dalot at RB against Liverpool. Playing immobile CBs have been costly.


4.) 13 Aug 2022 23:35:58
The players are just that bad, there was a reason RR said open heart surgery was needed because they needed and it's nit just the first team it's the lot of them.

And if your senior team is like that hiw are any youh players coming through expected to behave any differently.


5.) 13 Aug 2022 23:57:12
Mad hatter just get one of the rbs from the u21s would rather watch the kids play than any of these lot

Feel for ten hag because he’s been shafted in the window

Expecting to work the impossible with the same group of players as last year

It’s a shambles and the club is a joke.


 

 

26 Jul 2022 15:14:32
Fergie is obviously involved in the discussions that is going on with ronaldo and the club.

Is he there to pressurise the club into giving ronaldo what he wants or is he there on behalf of the club? Why is he there at all?!

If ronaldo stays and starts the 1st game of the season then i am done with supporting the club. if this happens we are no better off then we were when van gaal, mourinho, solskjaer started. it seemed the board was backing the new manager but if the ronaldo situation isn't sorted in the proper way (sell him or keep him on the managers terms not his) then ten hag is in serious trouble.

jayo84

1.) 26 Jul 2022 15:28:30
Fergie should have been out of the decision making process at the club as soon as he finished as manager.


2.) 26 Jul 2022 15:54:44
According to Sky, fergie is there for a pre scheduled board meeting and is nothing to do with the Ronaldo meeting.


3.) 26 Jul 2022 17:01:56
Course he is. it just happens to be the same day Ronaldo comes in with his super agent.
What a load of bs!


4.) 26 Jul 2022 17:08:23
Fergie is on the board. Of course his input on such matters would be sought out. I'm surprised that's even a discussion point for some. What would be wrong is if he interfered in team selection, or pressured Ten Hag into keeping players he doesn't otherwise want.


5.) 26 Jul 2022 19:50:53
How much say did Fergie have in Ronaldo coming back and how much say did Ole have?


6.) 27 Jul 2022 01:04:00
Firstly do any of you have real confidence that any of our other strikers can guarantee 20+ goals this season because I am not.

I am fed up of people saying Ronaldo won't work for the team. I recall many matches last year when he was in the left back position defending and clearing attacks. He should not have to be. Its a waste of his talent. Give him proper service and he will score goals and more than that he is a team player and will assist others to score. Yes he is hungry for the ball. Yes he wants to be the main man but he delivers goals better than most players a d proved it last year in a poor team.

Why lambast him for wanting to perform at the highest level possible whilst he is still able. He came back to win things and play in the best competitions and he was let down by two poor managers and team mates who didn't apply themselves. He owes us nothing and in fact we shoukd be happy that he is setting the club and players the right example. Mediocrity will not do.


 

 

 

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13 Aug 2022 22:32:30
Totally agree but as Jamie Rednapp tried to ask Gary neville earlier if the owners sold the club in the morning and we had a new owner for the next game would we see a totally different attitude or energy from the players?!

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28 Apr 2022 22:48:33
Been left on the pitch for nearly 80 mins was a bit of a head scratcher.

Walking around the place. Once I seen him sprint back. So so frustrating.

Mata has done more in his last 2 appearances of the bench then rashford has done all year.

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21 Nov 2021 11:51:11
I'd take a few years of pain if it meant we could see over the initial few years the right things are been put in place with players and a squad all playing for each other while doing it with a quality style of football.

Instant success while obviously is great I would forfeit it if it meant we weren't in this situation again which I fear we will be if we go the quick fix route.

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21 Nov 2021 10:58:56
As mentioned in previous posts I don't think it matters who the next manager is - Top class or a an up and coming - unless there is fundamental change at the very top and a start over with a clean state we will be in same managerial position in 2/ 3 years time.

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20 Nov 2021 17:49:04
Was wondering why Geoff goes easy on him!

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