26 Jul 2026 16:15:38
Are we on season 7 or 8 of Shaw, Maguire and Dalot starting in a United defence?
26 Jul 2026 16:36:09
I challenge people to name 3 worse players that have their length of service and appearances.
Mind boggling stuff, Scholes.
Spend what you like on forwards and midfielders, but with players like them being our stalwarts in defence, there is no point.
3rd or 4th rate players at this level at best imo.
26 Jul 2026 16:56:40
Chris Smalling, Phil Jones, Quinton Fortune, Victor Lindelof.
26 Jul 2026 17:28:25
Lindelof, I'll give you, without argument, a complete flake.
Jones, I'd compare to Shaw, both could have been so much better, but neither is strong enough in body or mind.
Smalling is better than Maguire, imo.
Fortune was a good squad player, never really 1st or 2nd choice, so not really comparable to 1st team stalwarts.
26 Jul 2026 17:36:14
Add Buttner and Telles to that list.
26 Jul 2026 17:46:13
No longevity or appearances. Please read the op.
26 Jul 2026 18:13:47
Shaw had an excellent season last year. I get that people are frustrated by his previous injuries, but when fit he is a very good player.
26 Jul 2026 18:24:26
Excellent? Not sure where you got that from. Must be watching another sport.
26 Jul 2026 18:46:11
He was average last season, imo. He is average, not elite, not top class, just an average Joe.
26 Jul 2026 21:15:46
Too many blaggers since Fergie retired.
26 Jul 2026 22:25:46
The fact that we seem content with them as starters, and r relying on them this season, is baffling. With the increased workload, u just know that won't happen. Shaw played all last season, so u know he'll miss large chunks this season. Maguire is steady, but an increasing liability due to lack of pace, and Dalot is just crap. It appears, though, that the management and those above don't agree, so not much we can do.