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24 Jun 2015 11:00:48
The Firmino isn't good enough posts will be in full force soon I imagine.
In all honesty I'm gutted we didn't go in for him, Liverpool have signed a player with bags of potential and right now a very good player.
Slightly confused as to how he will be used though, with players like markovic, lallana, coutinho and ibe will he played on the wing, AM or as a false 9? Or will Brenda deploy in a wingback role he seems to like?
Fair play to Liverpool, couldn't get Depay but got firmino. Two different players but both will be under close scrutiny from the media, depay more so being a United player.
Little shocked how much the fee could rise to, not worth that much in my opinion. But it's down to who's willing to pay the most. I'd say good luck but I don't want to see the lad kick on to be honest not at Liverpool!
1.) 24 Jun 2015 11:21:03
I don't think he isn't good enough, not seen much of him. But he looks like a good player. I just don't feel we need him, as people have said, we have a very talented young Brazilian who deserves a chance before splashing out on others.
2.) 24 Jun 2015 11:32:38
He looks a good prospect and will get first team football. He will link up well with Coutinho too.
But £29 million is a huge amount of money for a player that may or may not make it, just like Depay is.
3.) 24 Jun 2015 11:34:31
KC,
We didn't sign him, probably didn't think he was worth the price and we are well stacked in that area and have other targets. It doesn't really matter to us how Liverpool use him, that is a discussion for the Liverpool page.
Not sure you will get people saying he isn't good enough, you aren't on the Liverpool page where players like James Milner become world beaters just by signing for them.
4.) 24 Jun 2015 12:59:10
TV reporting Firminio was given playing assurances by Liverpool, something the bigger clubs wouldn't offer him.
Good player from what I hear, not seen anything of him myself, but a risk at that price. Sterling's sale will fund the deal anyway, but Liverpool will need him to hit the ground running. One tough season of bedding in and he could want out this time next summer. I think he may do okay mind. Liverpool needed a decentish signing after losing Gerrard, Suarez and Sterling in two summers. He's about the best they could hope to get with their restraints.
5.) 24 Jun 2015 14:27:16
BR
Liverpool remind a bit like Alan Pardew and Newcastle as they seem to buy hoards of players each window with a man who thinks he is a tactical genius. I am just waiting to see how they fit everyone into the new scheme he will cook up.
I still think their midfield and defense is shit and until they sort that out they will run with the likes of spurs for 5th or 6th place.
Back to us need a number 6, quality CB, RB and a premium striker. So if Schweini, Ramos do come off they are brilliant at what we require as a team. Not sure who the striker turns out to be and also not sure on RB.
20 May 2015 13:20:38
LVG showing his class lastnight. Didn't have to put DDG on the spot like that but it's great that he acknowledged his overall performance even with the impending transfer.
LVG is no easy person to get on with but he has galvanised the club and he knows how great an opportunity he has, I think that was evident.
It's not easy to celebrate 4th spot but I think he deserves credit where due, I don't think many managers could have shook it into the players we have at our disposal. Except our very own Sir Alex.
Succesful season? I'd say so. We was never going to jump from 7th to 1st in one season.
1.) 20 May 2015 14:02:31
to finish above liverpool was an amazing achievement , hats of to lvg
2.) 20 May 2015 15:26:13
KC,
I don't think it has been a successful season, success for a club like United is at least 1 trophy, it is progress and it is satisfactory if you look at it from a long term point of view, as I think we will have success in the future, but this season for me is satisfactory and nothing more.
3.) 20 May 2015 16:50:10
If we make it through the play-in round of the European Cup then it will have been a success from a financial point of view, but for a club like United coming 4th, getting knocked out of the League Cup early by MK Dons, and losing in the FA Cup to Arsenal, it can hardly be considered as any more than job done. Certainly an improvement and better than 7th under Moyes - it could have been so much worse.
So, I'm thankful it appears the ship has been righted, however, like any United fan, anything less than the best is not enough. Greed, hunger, passion - more, more, more - that's what should drive the club and the players. Which is why Moyes was a bad choice. Winning is not in his blood.
4.) 20 May 2015 17:10:35
so moyes is the bench mark.
we are 5 points better of than last year in fact our points total this year would of seen us finish 6th last year.
but like i said before maybe its been harder to finish top 4 this year ? (i don't think so )
we have done slightly better this year after spending 150 mill than last year . although most people will agree last season was awful .
i think 4th place has papered over a number of issues .
last thing if we don't qualify for the CL has this still been a good season
5.) 20 May 2015 17:59:01
Comparing points to other seasons is irrelevant, did we always win the league with a particular number of points? No. We got more than the others in that particular season and that's it. No two seasons are the same. This season we got enough to get us in the top four, an improvement in position on last season so simply looking at numbers of points saying where we would have finished is meaningless. It's like saying 82 points would win us the league in 1998 or whenever. It's a different season with different challenges. Five points better off? A decent manager better off than last season is more relevant.
6.) 20 May 2015 18:15:42
redman
as i said is moyes the bench mark now?
i honestly don't think we have been hugely better this season compared to what was a truly awful season .
but we have improved so let's all pat ourselves on the back .
we came 4th job done , behind city and co but ahead of a poor liverpool , fantastic lvg should maybe get a knighthood double all the players wages and give them a bonus .
coming 4th and judging our performance are 2 different things imo .
you don't want to compare points but you do want to compare league position , which is defined by points ?
it great we have got 4th but when you asses our performance over the season the money spent its pretty average imo.
but we improved on last season even if it has cost us 150 mil so job done
{Ed025's Note - liverpool spent about the same jred and went backwards, so its not all bad mate.. :)
7.) 20 May 2015 18:17:55
redman
also pal its not always about the manager pal .
you might not believe this but united are bigger than lvg .
8.) 20 May 2015 18:26:44
It would have been nice if the same mind-set had been applied to Moyes, you never know maybe with unwavering support he may have done better?
I would have loved to have seen the reaction on here if Moyes had done what LVG did last night!
Also Liverpool lost their best player and had Europe to contend with. We had a war chest, no Europe and no domestic cup run of note. 5 points extra is a poor return, 4th place is a poor return, the football we witnessed was abhorrent considering the talent we possess and the tradition/Philosophy of Man Utd.
Hope this doesn't constitute as trolling?
{Ed025's Note - it constitutes being a serial moaner beast.. :)
9.) 20 May 2015 18:27:03
ed
liverpool over reached last season.
they spent a vast amount but lost one of the best players in the world .
we got a brand new worldclass manager.
added to the squad also and have managed to finish above a pretty average scouse team imo.
the liverpool fans are up in arms with there season .
some of ours are just happy to have improved on moyes
i honestly think we have a much stronger squad of players than the scouse.
{Ed025's Note - so do plymouth mate.. :)
10.) 20 May 2015 18:57:05
Beast ,
Moyes got a hell of a lot of support from the fans and let's not forget he took over the champions , but it was obvious in the end that he'd lost the players and was way out of his depth .We were getting absolutely walked over by Liverpool , City etc.
it has'nt been a bed of roses this season by any stretch of the imagination but the team spirit has obviously been much better , we've been more resilient and at least in that run of games a little while ago when everyone was fit there was signs of what LVG is trying to do.
The jury is still out but he's done enough in my opinion to deserve to continue his rebuilding , strengthen in the areas it's needed and we'll see next season
11.) 20 May 2015 19:05:23
You know I would have thought from the moaning (usual suspects) we had finished 7th again.
I think I have written this before but 1st to 7th was a disgrace and we were never going to get back to 1st or even 2nd in one season after the devastation in confidence caused by the errors of the transition. 4th is nothing to celebrate but it is a definite step upwards.
Moyes lost the dressing room, the fans and the board so I have to say the idea from Beast that with our "unwavering support" Moyes might have done better is laughable. A bit more clapping and singing was the answer, perhaps round the campfire would have done it.
For those who look down their noses at 4th, I suggest they have short SAF sized memories.
Yes Jred, the club is bigger than the manager and too big for some managers.
12.) 20 May 2015 19:19:02
redman
i forget you think your the only who supported the club before fergy.
dont try and compare the current squad and club to the one pre fergy .
i love the way you have turned this into a moyes crack.
i guess moyes is the bench mark .
by the way you moaned more than beast last season before a ball had even be kicked.
13.) 20 May 2015 19:38:44
Actually Jred, you brought Moyes into it in this post before I did.
Yes, I did point out the disaster that was about to happen before last season started, wish I had been wrong given the pain it caused.
14.) 20 May 2015 20:01:10
The players read newspapers hear fans booing their manager and the foot comes off the gas, especially if they are not keen on him, people look to blame everyone but themselves especially underperforming superstars. It's naïve to think that had Moyes enjoyed the unwavering support LVG gets for even more boring football that the team wouldn't have done better. Every long ball was met by a jeer last season, this season we have been praising it because Fellaini was "allowed" to play!
It's all interconnected. I am talking specifically about the points tally though, I think if LVG had the same fan reactions to rubbish football and same fixtures as Moyes minus £150m we would be lucky to be top half this season.
15.) 20 May 2015 20:42:57
redman
your double standards from last season is embarrassing .
you would of slated moyes for the same things you have swooned over lvg for .
but your last post says it all really .
you just want to prove you where right about moyes
what ever makes you feel good about yourself.
16.) 20 May 2015 21:00:48
Sorry but the football and results especially against the top opposition has been better this season. Perhaps you should consider why the fans have reacted differently this season.
One point people may not have picked up was that before the warm up at the Arsenal game on Sunday LVG went around the crowd in sections at the edge of the pitch and was signing autographs and doing selfies, close up, the fans reacted really well and it was a popular touch. There is a big difference from the previous season.
17.) 20 May 2015 22:28:32
redman
the football has really been a huge improvement tho.
the start of the season was the worse in years .
our away form is pretty poor .
we struggled badly in the cups against poor teams.
as for results we are 5 points better off that's all.
also lvg talking to fans your starting to sound like beast .
remember tho its a team game your back to lvg is better than moyes again.
like i have said before i was no fan of moyes but i have tried to judge both the same .
your double standards are shocking
18.) 20 May 2015 22:19:33
Jred
Why shouldn't I take a different view of different managers? I say what I see and what I thought about Moyes was replicated eventually by the board, he got the sack which proved he wasn't up to it. I couldn't care about being right because the pain the error to appoint him caused to all of us ran very deep.
I think it is more that the Beast cabal are still trying to talk down LVG whilst the fans generally recognise that we have improved this season. We may not be where we want to be but most recognise we have taken a step forward.
19.) 20 May 2015 22:55:23
redman
its a team game and after our change in manager and 150 mil spend our team has taken a step forward .
beast does talk lvg down but that's his opinion at least he waited until a ball had been kicked.
20.) 21 May 2015 09:20:18
Get a room you two!
12 Apr 2015 00:16:40
I don't doubt anything that 002 has said regarding potential managerial changes. But Van Gaal does give off an impression that he knows he is going to be backed at least beyond this season.
The hierarchy may decide otherwise but at least he himself believes he deserves to be there, Moyes I feel as if he knew he was a goner.
1.) 12 Apr 2015 01:15:16
KC - the worrying thing is that ED002 said earlier in the season that LVG had upset someone significant in the hierarchy which prompted debate about his future and now there seems to another underlying issue the ED has told us about.
It's slightly concerning that he has only been here for 9 months and already on two seperate occasions his future is being considered even though he is in the top four. How can you go forward with unity if folk within the club are at loggerheads?
I personally think he will be here next season but if the right candidate becomes available Utd may be tempted to cash in on their Dutch chips. A little ruthlessness never hurt a team like Real Madrid.
2.) 12 Apr 2015 08:52:52
Hard for us to know without knowing what the issues were, who with and hoe serious.
All we knows that at present Lvg is performing well. if we get 3Rd that would be the target hit.
Let's hope whatever happens the team continuevthis to the end of the season andinto next
3.) 12 Apr 2015 09:21:03
JMB , what you are saying is pure speculation. Ed002 did say that LVG had p@##ed someone off. SAF p@###ed several people off during his time at the club , especially in the early days.
The "other" underlying issue that the End has mentioned , we know nothing about as he has not given any details about. This is the bit you are speculating about. It may be nothing to do with anything that LvG has done , or not done.
I too am only speculating , as I know nothing about either issue . But I am not pretending that I do.
The truth is , there will be a lot less desire to get rid of the manager if we end up 2nd or 3rd come the end of May. , that if we were to finish 5th or 6th.
If the future of LvG , or any manager for that matter , is under threat because of personal disagreements with a "suit" , then there is a bigger problem than just the manager.
Personalities often clash , but ultimately , if the manager is achieving his targets , and his conduct is not in question ,that should not be an issue.
We have no idea what goes on behind the scenes , so there is little point in trying to guess. That includes me , so I guess this post is pointless really. ha ha.
4.) 12 Apr 2015 19:09:57
We know nothing about any of this but I'll be surprised if lvg is not here next season and beyond. I know some of his close friends here and they all say he's very happy at United.
15 Mar 2015 15:36:34
Ridiculous team selection as always, should be fun to watch the mighty fellaini up too whilst we have Falcao on the bench.
Im with beast on LVG. Clearly has his work cut out for him. Strange formations, tactics and player selection. Constantly trying to force square pegs into round holes. And isn't really giving some players a fair chance in the team. Just talks pure drivel about 'philosophy'.
1.) 15 Mar 2015 15:47:37
I just heard him say "Mata is the same type of player as ADM", is this guy for real?
I'm not too sure what he is going to do today, but I look at Spurs and I worry about their energy. How Falcao can't play is a joke.
2.) 15 Mar 2015 15:52:10
I agree today is such an important game yet LvG has gone with poor players being played out of position whilst better ones sit on the bench
3.) 15 Mar 2015 15:52:26
Looks like possession football again, its a dangerous game as Spurs are good on the counter and Kane is on fire at the moment.
4.) 15 Mar 2015 16:09:24
Beast, i just thought the same thing when he said it. Mata and adm are not alike in any way.
Jones has already showed in 2 mins why he should be sold at the end of season.
5.) 15 Mar 2015 16:17:46
Seems fellaini is out to prove me wrong again. got to love the guys passion but he's certainly not a striker.
6.) 15 Mar 2015 16:24:26
how ironic were 2 up at after 20 minutes and fellaini has been involved in both.
7.) 15 Mar 2015 16:28:10
Well, how daft do we all look after 20 minutes.
GET IN.
8.) 15 Mar 2015 16:35:01
Got to give credit to fellani, after all the stick he got and from me, he got his head down and got on with it, looking good today united
9.) 15 Mar 2015 16:37:47
eat your words Beast, we've been great so far.
10.) 15 Mar 2015 17:38:45
Me too leehy. Fellaini deserves a lot of credit and my apologies for being hard on him.
11.) 15 Mar 2015 19:21:36
This is my favourite post of the year I think!
12.) 15 Mar 2015 20:30:34
Can this post be pinned at the top of the banter page for the rest of the week? Absolute comedy!
On the other hand, what a performance, very professional by the lads.
11 Mar 2015 00:07:49
Those crying out for Mata and Falcao must have short memories. Falcao hasn't taken any opportunity given to him to warrant a start in the team. Just isn't working, wasn't what we needed in the summer. I feel he will never recapture his form of old.
Mata is a different story, he can make an impact but LVG clearly doesn't rate him. And when called upon hasn't took his chances which is a shame as he is an outstanding fellow. Always so humble.
That's just our problem this season, whether the reason be tactics, form, LVG etc our world class players have just not shown up barring De Gea and Rooney. RVP, Di Maria, Falcao and Mata all have had poor and patchy seasons.
Whilst I still think we should get champions league I will not be surprised if we fail to do so. Something is clearly wrong at our club and with 002s comments about LVG it looks to be down to the man himself. Just my two cents.
1.) 11 Mar 2015 01:45:10
I find myself agreeing with you KC but I feel that Mata being used so sparingly (35 minutes in the last 6 games) when others are underperforming and our attacking lacks some cutting edge is baffling.
Falcao on the other hand, well he has been shamefully poor. We all wanted him to do well but he just isn't the type of striker to warrant a place in our team given his slack performaces and the way we set up.
I for one think the players must take responsibility for their actions but if so many top players are performing badly then there must be underlying issues which brings us back to the Managers tactics, selections, perfomances etc.
2.) 11 Mar 2015 09:49:36
Fellaini getting a lot of stick for the other night be I personally think he distributed well. It wasnt the case of hoof up and nod on he was bringing balls down and starting attacks with passes out wide and forwards. Arsenal couldn't handle him but unfortunately the attacks he was creating had no end product.
09 Jun 2015 16:09:50
Oh come on danny get a grip, things change interest changes, there's nothing wrong with him asking if anything has changed.
You sound like a bitter old man blaming people. Don't like it don't comment, that's pretty clear right?
Fresh has a new favourite player every week and he doesn't get half as much stick. And why? Because there's no need for it on a site where most people seem to get along.
09 Jun 2015 14:40:08
People need to stop slating so much, yes it was the same question as previously asked but Ronnie makes a good point. We may not have looked due to other targets and then once they were ruled out we could have chosen to take a look at him. There's no harm in asking if anything has changed. Especially as previously 002 pointed out if there was changes, sadly we no longer have that privilege.
22 Jun 2015 23:59:40
Liverpool - Gerrard, Alonso, Suarez
Arsenal - Henry, Bergkamp, Viera
Chelsea - Lampard, Hazard, Makelele
City - Silva, Yaya, Aguero
22 Jun 2015 11:41:52
Kane create something out of nothing? And benzema can't?
Another blinding comment from beast. You really see what you want don't you?
16 Jun 2015 15:03:45
And much older JMB, at the 25mill being suggested it is an absolute no brainer to stay away.
16 Jun 2015 10:36:21
I understand the lure of Spain and his home city but for somebody who I always thought a decent lad he had left us in the shit. The club stood behind him throughout the tough and torrid times and he repays us by allowing his contract to dwindle down to a year knowing that we will sell this summer. For everything we have done to develop him to the player he is today, I'd expect more respect from the lad to be honest but then again there is no respect or loyalty left in football.
Sell him is the only option.
14 Jun 2015 15:26:15
What i would do for Stam back in his prime. Exactly what we need.