09 Jan 2026 22:53:28
Seen reports today of Toby Collyer going back out on loan surely we should be looking to keep him at the club with our lack of midfield options.
10 Jan 2026 03:37:01
Not sure how good he actually is? Will also depend largely I’d guess on his injury, and whether the club manage to offload Ugarte?
10 Jan 2026 09:10:23
I'd rather play him than Ugarte.
10 Jan 2026 09:52:04
It’s an easy thing to say AJH but Ugarte hasn’t suddenly turned into a poor player since his Sporting and PSG days. He’s fairly limited in passing range etc, but he’s not been played to his strengths, and he’s an experienced international midfielder who could have a role as DM in a midfield 3.
In theory, he should bring energy, tenacity and aggression to our midfield to break up play and provide extra cover for our centre backs, the question is does he have the discipline and positional sense to thrive in the Premier League. In a midfield 3 he now, like Mainoo who can play further forward, has a real chance to shine.
Collyer started well like many, but needs football to kick on. Will he get it here I don’t know. That being said, he’ll be getting the right interim coach whoever it is as either OGS, RVN or Carrick will dip into the youth system more.
10 Jan 2026 09:57:39
I agree Ajh. Ugarte has been a shocking signing. Did he come in, instead of McT?
10 Jan 2026 10:01:34
Hull are doing well and they play good football aswell. They are also on the play offs.
10 Jan 2026 10:57:15
Ultimately young players need to be playing regularly if they are going to develop and reach their potential.
I think the original plan was to loan out Collyer for the first half of the season and see how he did while we kept Sekou Kone and gave him more first team exposure to help him continue to adjust to playing in England. Then assess where both of them were in January. However, Kone's injury and Collyer's limited game time, partially due to injury, has meant that it's hard to judge where either player is right now.
Realistically the club should loan out the player they think has the best chance of having a future at the club so they can continue to develop, while keeping the other one at the club as back up.
I think given the challenging situation our club is in right now and the limited options we have in midfield I'd be tempted to loan out the younger lad Kone somewhere where he'll get regular game time, ideally in the Championship, but abroad if necessary. While keeping the more experienced Collyer (whose still building up fitness after his injury) as without a midfield signing in January (due to being managerless again) it's more likely that whoever stays will be needed as the seasons wears on and players pick up more injuries. I would expect to see Casemiro to have to miss a few games given his age and the amount he has played for us so far this season. While the rarely injured Bruno has had a spell out, Mount will pick up injuries, Mainoo has missed a bit due to injuries and Ugarte has as well.
Given that we will have a caretaker manager and the difficult situation we find ourselves in it makes more sense to rely on the more experienced Collyer in a pinch rather than throwing Kone into the mix.
10 Jan 2026 11:30:04
Ugarte has looked better playing alongside Casemeiro. Ideally the club can move him on in the summer.
Hopefully, he can find his form again, but I'm not sure if he will.
10 Jan 2026 11:45:02
Ugarte has been a massive disappointment, when you think we signed him and let McT go, albeit slightly different positions. I get why we want Rashford to leave, lack of effort, questionable commitment, but losing Scott seemed mad at the time. And this is how I now feel about Mainoo
I can't think of on evanescence when I thought I see why qe signed Ugarte. Maybe the cub is too big for him, who knows, but I would absolutely play others in front of him, including some of our youngsters.
10 Jan 2026 15:27:20
Why do you think you are not in the position to be manager of united ajh?
11 Jan 2026 07:29:29
Ugarte has been better. Still not good enough, but better nonetheless.