08 Dec 2024 09:21:43
Dan Ashworth have been sacked.
08 Dec 2024 10:58:27
Ridiculous.
08 Dec 2024 11:11:28
I believe it was mutually agreed. Reports of a personality clash with Berrada.
Looks like the Ineos era is imploding already, just like nearly every other sporting venture SJR touches.
08 Dec 2024 11:20:48
It’s seems to stem from a number of disagreements, these ones seem clear:
- Keeping EtH;
- Preference for an English manager over Amorim;
Guess work:
- Amorim feedback on quality of squad;
- Transfer strategy (only Maz seems good business so far) . But unsure how involved he is.
- Ambition for January window;
- Availability of a better candidate;
- Performance in role vs OKRs;
- Personality clash;
- Berrada sidelined him in appointment of RA;
The key thing right now is to get the right people in the right positions. If DA isn’t right, I think being decisive now saves us long term and appreciate the ruthlessness.
08 Dec 2024 11:46:45
The issue is that normally a CEO is pretty central to hiring a sporting director. As it's someone they will have to work closely with.
On paper Ashworth looked a great candidate. But reality doesn't always work out like that.
Barrada wouldn't have had much if any input into the hiring of Ashworth.
It's clear with how somethings have gone this season that they weren't all singing from the same hymn sheet. We had two international breaks were the club supposedly had talks about whether EtH was the right man and should stay.
Those talks wouldn't have happened in the first place if everyone thought he was, and they wouldn't have happened multiple times if everyone agreed first time around.
Ultimately if all the key people are pulling in the same direction then there has to be a change, and it better that happens sooner rather than later.
Hopefully they can quickly sort things out and make sure we are moving forward in the right direction. I wouldn't be surprised to see Wilcox take the role, at least temporarily until the right candidate is found.
08 Dec 2024 13:15:56
This will clearly stem from appointing Amorim over his preferred option of Southgate or Potter.
08 Dec 2024 13:33:10
Oh and the late Ed02 did say Ashworth was the wrong appointment….
08 Dec 2024 13:45:49
I think that what happened was that Ashworth was reluctant to hire Ruben in the summer because he isn’t a fan of his system, and the director of football wants to be in charge of the overarching footballing approach. So, they kept ETH on at the end of last season and signed players that fit Ashworth’s criteria for how he would like the squad to be shaped.
When it became obvious that ETH would have to go, Berrada pushed for Ruben. Ashworth likely pushed for another candidate *cough - Southgate - cough*. Berrada overruled him, and that undermined Ashworth’s position.
I think it spells out the importance of having a unified vision from the top down. The CEO and sporting director need to be on the same page. Otherwise you end up with fundamental disagreements on the direction of the club, and power struggles.
I go back to the sorely missed Ed002 saying that Mitchell was the right man for the club. It seems like he’s a bit at odds with Howe, who worked well with Ashworth. Think we made the wrong call on this one. A costly lesson learned.
08 Dec 2024 14:14:36
Rumour going around that dan ashworth called out sir Jim about his comments in the latest uws. Only one winner there. Club is a mess.
08 Dec 2024 22:56:57
No issue for me? DA obviously was the wrong man? He is gone.
They have Wilcox and Berrada in place? They have their manager now in Amorin. Not even sure they need to bring in a replacement just streamline the whole process possibly.
We expect players to be moved on if they aren't a fit, it's no different for execs. You won't get every appointment right just as you won't every player, when you get it wrong move on.
09 Dec 2024 10:16:03
Ratcliffe is just as clueless as the Glazers. Get ready for another few decades of mediocrity.
09 Dec 2024 11:37:18
I think it’s a steep learning curve redseven.
He went out and tried to hire two of the most successful/ sought after candidates for CEO and Sporting Director. Unfortunately, his team didn’t do enough to ensure everyone was on the same page.
Personally, I think it would have been better to wait until Berrada was in place to start looking for supporting staff. Your CEO is the one driving, and they need to make the final decision on the rest of team below them.
It seems like Berrada and Ashworth had fundamental disagreements on the future of the club. That could have been avoided if Ratcliffe had take a more patient approach to recruiting directors. However, the big difference here is that he sought out skilled people from outside the club, and made a quick decision when a conflict between the CEO and Sporting Director happened. Neither of these things would have happened under the Glazers.
09 Dec 2024 15:24:38
Pretty sure Berrada had a say in hiring Ashworth. I seem to recall email conversations between the pair taking place while both were still on gardening leave.
09 Dec 2024 19:36:44
OA how do you know Ashworth was wrong?
12 Dec 2024 08:01:27
Lads it's easy to get caught up here. Ashwort simply didn't fit into the structure or model that the United backroom is shaping into. Better to remove a problem if its not working rather than try remedy an unsolvable problem. This happens in business and happens with players too. The club removed what they perceived as a problem and acted fast. Would you all really have rather they kept on and the discontent bled into other aspects of the club?
This is a prime example of the club can do no right and there will always be a negative view point of how its been handled.