05 Dec 2023
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1.) 05 Dec 2023
05 Dec 2023 21:47:46
Player power. Ralf was right. Open heart surgery.

2.) 05 Dec 2023
05 Dec 2023 22:10:24
So we should break the cycle and move them on. Absolute disgrace that its been allowed for so long.

Get players that wear the shirt with pride.

3.) 05 Dec 2023
05 Dec 2023 22:18:17
I’m thinking that there must be a common denominator with all of the above, but I can’t put my finger on it.

4.) 05 Dec 2023
05 Dec 2023 22:34:20
I would honestly only keep 6 players

Martinez Shaw Mainoo Bruno Garnacho and Hojlund

The rest can close the door on their way out

The problem is we couldn’t give some of these clowns away.

5.) 05 Dec 2023
05 Dec 2023 23:06:16
As proved with Maguire in the summer…. getting rid isn’t so easy.

6.) 05 Dec 2023
05 Dec 2023 23:27:27
Toxic club, toxic underperforming and overpaid players. The "losing the dressing room" reportage is pure BS.

As for getting rid of players:
Martial: out of contract at the end of the year
Rashford: Stands at in at zero, so a deal should be very doable, even if we have to cover some of his wages
DVDB: only one year left at the end of the season. Maybe a deal can be done
Maguire: similar and surely proved himself to be worth c. £30m
Lindelof: expires end of season. Did Utd extend?
McTominay: stands us in at nothing so should be able to make money

Bigger cost issues with Sancho and Antony (who at least puts in a shift), Varane and Casemiro.

7.) 05 Dec 2023
05 Dec 2023 23:27:41
Tim, getting rid of Maguire was possible, but the club have to accept the reality. If I have a busted fridge that I want rid of I have to pay someone to take it away. Ironically a fridge is probably a better defender than Maguire.

8.) 05 Dec 2023
05 Dec 2023 23:35:06
Blackpool, On ability Rashford should be on that list, but his attitude doesn't look good enough right now. Although One player I would definitely add to those 6 is Mason Mount who is definitely good enough and has the right attitude. I wouldn't judge him on this season given how much s**t has hit the fan at the club. Onana as well I think will prove to be a good signing once we get a settled defence in front of him.

I wouldn't be against Dalot, Lindelof staying as squad players. I also think Amad could be a player, I'd want to see how he does when he gets back from injury.

However, that's all based on the outside looking in. I have no idea what they are like in the dressing room, whether they are in the camp of players working hard or whether they are the ones downing tools.

Every player who is not giving it their best and working with the manager needs to go regardless of their ability. We can't keep one rotten apple, as they spread the rot.

9.) 06 Dec 2023
06 Dec 2023 04:29:20
We cleared a load of apples out of the orchard last year, maybe it is better to cut down the tree?

10.) 06 Dec 2023
06 Dec 2023 05:22:14
Shappy

Rashford biggest flaw is he does not phyicality and its a physical league. You have to be prepared to stick a foot in even if you know you are going to get kicked and it hurts. His technical ability is up there but he lacks in terms of doing the grind work when we have to defend.

11.) 06 Dec 2023
06 Dec 2023 06:58:03
Also Ahmad, he is very one dimensional and lacks a footballing brain.

I'd sell him for whatever can be got.

12.) 06 Dec 2023
06 Dec 2023 07:00:05
Ahmad, I'm not too harsh on Rashford for his lack of tracking back. He has done his tracking back in the past, so we know he can do it. What is unclear right now is whether his lack of tracking back is a tactical decision from the manager or whether Rashford can't be bothered.

If it's the former then fine, if it's the latter then we can add Rashford to the list of players who need to go due to poor mentality.

13.) 06 Dec 2023
06 Dec 2023 08:24:00
When have you seen Rashford tracking back Shappy? For a few years now all I've seen is a lazy, weak one dimensional player, his goals last year papered over some very big cracks. If we can get anything for him i would sell him in a heartbeat.

14.) 06 Dec 2023
06 Dec 2023 08:28:59
As the Rashford tracking thing has been blown out of all proportion literally every footy fan will be watching tonite to see if the effort has ramped up. I'm guessing it will, but if it were effort alone surely the manager will have dropped him. I mean I can remember as a primary school kid being shouted at for not getting back. There's no hiding in the modern game.
Re: Maguire, he's obviously climbed up the pecking order in recent weeks. Let's assume Todibo comes in, at this moment in time it seems more as a Varane replacement. I wouldn't be surprised to see Maguire still here come next season. (sits back and watches meltdown)

15.) 06 Dec 2023
06 Dec 2023 09:17:13
There is a sickening recurring theme present here for which the players should be ashamed! Not all of those managers can be the issue.

Ahmad you defend and champion Rashford to a nauseating degree. He does NOT have the technical ability and is not 'up there'. He constantly runs down blind alleys, shoots directly into defenders, never tracks back and his attitude and effort stinks. He has become a complete passenger we do not have the luxury of carrying.

You do need to wake up and stop trying to defend the indefensible.
I reckon I could probably write your reply for you.

16.) 06 Dec 2023
06 Dec 2023 10:54:47
The number one problem with the dressing room is that it is disparate parts put together by different managers and a transfer team that don’t know what they’re doing. Take recent transfers, it looks like the club is focused on bringing in players that ETH has previous worked with and thinks he can trust. If ETH is fired, these players potentially won’t fit with the next manager. Then you’re stuck with unwanted players on big wages that are difficult to move. Case in point with Maguire and Sancho, players that don’t fit with what ETH wants but can’t be sold, and are unhappy at the club.

This is why you need to start with overarching football directors who decide upon a long term plan for the club: the desired style of football, approach to transfers, the type of managers they think can implement this and the players who can fit into this. This ensures that if managers are fired, there is continuity and consistency in the squad. People are critical of Chelsea, but there is a long term strategy for the club for the next 5-10 years.

At this point I think it’s inevitable that ETH will be sacked. But the club need to have a new team in place to guide long term strategy before they decide on a new manager.

17.) 06 Dec 2023
06 Dec 2023 11:11:59
Don’t believe all you read. Their job is to sell newspapers not print the truth. Of course a revolt in the Man Utd dressing room creates interest. How true is it though? Every dressing room has dissent when form is low, matches are being lost. We are not unique! Get a fit Martinez and Case back, keep playing Kobbie and let’s see.
You think sacking Erik is the answer? Would you have sacked him last year?

18.) 06 Dec 2023
06 Dec 2023 12:46:38
I agree Patrick.
However the new investor and team may have a different vision to eth.
Ed002 has said eth is not easy to get on with and they may want to move in a different direction.
Either way I see a substantial clear out.
I think eth has gone about most things in a way I agree with but if he doesn't suit the new investor and they have different ideas then the writing is on the wall for eth.
That said I'm hoping that he is given the opportunity to continue what he has started but it seems unlikely.
If sjr and team decide to make changes to the coaching team I also don't think they will stop there. The players will go too if they change it won't be giving into player power as they will ship out the lemons too.
Just my thoughts on it.

19.) 06 Dec 2023
06 Dec 2023 13:06:11
The problem has been that bean counting accountants, likely with financial targets to meet, did not dare sanction financial hits to shift players out. It leaves the manager with no teeth to make decisions.

20.) 06 Dec 2023
06 Dec 2023 19:34:59
Fizz

If rash's form does not significantly improve we are not going to be anywhere near top 5 come end of the season.
Love him or hate him he is our most lethal guy upfront.

21.) 06 Dec 2023
06 Dec 2023 20:14:23
Ahmad ?.

22.) 07 Dec 2023
07 Dec 2023 00:14:11
Fizz

Its a season of 38 games and some big games coming up and we will need a blue patch from rashford.

I am outlier to many here. I don't rate people rubbish or great. Most here write players off after 3 bad games. Said a few weeks ago ambrabat is not right physically and he is a lot better than what he has shown. Most here labelled him shi. t and the manager is shi. t for bringing him in. Tonight we got a glimpse of him against a 230 mill chelsea midfield. He will get better.

rash is not garbage as people say here. there is something not right with him but he did turn into a turd suddenly.

I also think mount is a really good player and onana even with his mistakes is a good goalie.

If we get a healthy martinez and cas who I rate very highly even though he has been 3 poor games this year back (must be rubbish, legs gone, over the hill) we will get a lot better. Back the manager and let the season play out.

BTW I said at the beginning of the season it will be one of the lowest points totals that wins the league and I recall people laughed at me. I still hold that view. reckon 83/ 84 wins the league. I think top 5 will be separated by 10 points.

We should win our next game and lose at anfield and the drama will start again.