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22 May 2017 14:51:46
If any of the ed's or anyone with any insight are about, your thoughts please.
I know this has been covered and Ed 002 has mention about it in the past, but now the season is over, whet the hell is going on with Jose.
The final match we had his 11 second press conference, and I believe he was out of the stadium in 20 minutes. Not even round the pitch.
He generally looks very grumpy, ed 002 alluded to the fact he does not like Manchester much.
He is unshaven and wears that zip top/ jacket combo, generally looking unkempt. Odd comments and snide remarks, calling out players etc. This must transmit back into the team. It's like all the worst traits of his previous jobs all concentrated into the grinch we have here.
So, given that Jose blows up by year 3, what have we got in store here for year 2?
Is he looking to be sacked, has he lost his mind?
Thoughts.
{Ed001's Note - he is not looking to be sacked, but he is not entirely happy with life at the moment. It is difficult to be alone hundreds of miles from your family living in a hotel. Hotel living is depressing at the best of times, but even worse when you are having a real struggle with your job. It has just not worked out as he wanted it to. Personally I think he needs a break from the game.}
1.) 22 May 2017 20:12:35
Moyes is available again.
{Ed025's Note - isn,t he just brendan.. :)
2.) 22 May 2017 20:25:41
Maybe he'll go back to Everton if Koeman leaves 😉.
{Ed025's Note - he might go even if koeman stays brendan...but i hope not mate..
3.) 22 May 2017 20:27:19
Baines, Pienaar, Osman, Barkley, Coleman signings must if we Moyesy again.
{Ed025's Note - you wish rohan.. :)
4.) 22 May 2017 20:40:49
Yeah you need to look forward not back. You seem to be going in the right direction.
{Ed025's Note - i would like to think so brendan..
5.) 22 May 2017 20:50:44
Does Mou have his own plate?
{Ed025's Note - yes mate,,,M1 S3RABL3 1,, :)
6.) 22 May 2017 20:59:52
Hope you don't mind me asking Ed, do you know why Jose is "struggling"? Is it the job itself? the philosophies of the club? his vision he may be trying to get across? the players are not on the same page? or the pressure of living away from his family? thanks.
{Ed025's Note - Living away for his family is the big one shane..
7.) 22 May 2017 21:49:20
I get that. All the money in the world can't replace your loved ones.
{Ed007's Note - No but it can certainly make the misery a bit more bearable. There's guys working on building sites away from their families all week for minimum wage so let's not get all emotional over a multi-millionaire who can fly himself or his family anywhere in the world most days of the week. He knew when he took the job his family wouldn't join him, he knew it rained in Manchester a lot and he knew it wasn't going to be an easy job.}
8.) 22 May 2017 22:06:43
Why can't his family move to Manchester?
{Ed007's Note - It's not glamorous enough, the weather, the restaurants aren't classy enough....
9.) 22 May 2017 22:06:55
Tbh I know I couldn't cope being away from my family on the other side of the country constantly, actually feel for him on that part.
{Ed007's Note - Not even for £15 million a year and working basically flexi-time? Your Mrs would divorce you if you turned that down, Shane.}
10.) 22 May 2017 22:09:11
I get that but perspective is hard. Still the mind is a funny thing and sometimes we can't control it and his it makes us feel.
{Ed007's Note - They're only in London, it's not exactly long haul and he won't exactly be sitting on a train with a discount ticket listening to drunken neds like us plebs.}
11.) 23 May 2017 01:02:26
speak for yourself i am always impeccably behaved when i travel from clydebank to bellgrove on the train lol.
12.) 23 May 2017 08:20:37
For Manchester United, I do it for free lol.
28 Apr 2017 11:22:09
News that Jose is looking to Joe Hart for £20M.
Thoughts.
1.) 28 Apr 2017 11:32:25
My thoughts are that he is not very good and it won't happen.
12 Days of Hermida.
2.) 28 Apr 2017 11:33:26
He's a solid keeper but not top class. Oblak or Handsnovic.
3.) 28 Apr 2017 11:46:05
I'd rather have Romero than hart.
4.) 28 Apr 2017 12:19:32
I think it'll be any one of Oblak, Donarumma or Handanovic. Realistically, Handanovic.
5.) 28 Apr 2017 12:31:53
every time I watch handanovic he seems to have a mare, AC milans equalizer last week for example, went walk about on a corner. Oblak would be my 1st choice, leno is another keeper who always impresses me.
6.) 28 Apr 2017 12:40:07
Saw that about Hart a few weeks ago.
7.) 28 Apr 2017 12:45:12
Oblak would be my first choice but I would be happy with Butland.
8.) 28 Apr 2017 12:54:05
I like Hart and I like his spirit, I'd take him.
9.) 28 Apr 2017 13:19:27
Wouldn't out of principle to be honest. English though and seems a nice bloke whenever I hear him talk so not all bad, just not in the same class as DDG and we can't be taking backward steps right now in key areas of the pitch.
{Ed004's Note - Hart is an awful keeper I would rather Romero}
10.) 28 Apr 2017 13:38:24
Save the 20 million and keep Romero. He's not a step up on what we've got.
11.) 28 Apr 2017 14:35:15
i would rather bring back massimo Taibi than getting hart.
12.) 28 Apr 2017 15:34:31
Brilliant comment, CSM
Taibi best keeper ever, even better than Djemba Djemba, who I would put in goal ahead of Hart.
13.) 28 Apr 2017 15:39:36
City reject? No thanks.
14.) 28 Apr 2017 15:47:01
But he's head and shoulders above the rest!
15.) 28 Apr 2017 16:47:21
Interesting comments today from Balague. Don't usually have much time for him, but he suggests that DeGea doesn't want to leave but may be made to leave as united want to get a high fee for him. Mourinho with a grudge again maybe? Who knows.
16.) 28 Apr 2017 17:20:51
He really doesn't seem to like the Spanish. A Portuguese thing? A grudge because of the lack of respect he felt he got when managing over there?
17.) 28 Apr 2017 19:12:17
I wouldn't let ddg go until oblak agrees to join.
24 Nov 2016 13:23:27
Long-time lurker here with an open question to the Ed's or anyone in the know.
There was much talk on here some time back about what would happen to the club in 2017. Some thought the Glazers would sell, other things about certain loans etc. Well, 2017 is nearly upon us and I was wondering what 2017 does indeed have in store.
I think it was Ed002 who mentioned the plan was for LVG to see out his 3 years, then the club would be in a perfect place for a take over. Now with LVG gone and sponsors etc concerned about certain toxic elements around the club, what is the Glazer plan for next year?
I have tried Google, but I could only really find something about a bond or loan maturing on 1st of February, and another about the Glazers taking £15m a year out, so why would they sell up (it is their club to do so, am just pointing out what a Google search brings up) .
Thanks.
{Ed002's Note - The plan was for LvG to see out his contract and then for another manager to take over in 2017 and end in 2022 when he retires. The 2016/2017 season also sees an increase in income from the broadcasters and this will increase further in 2018. The plans for further floating part or all of the club will be an issue with the exchange rate at present - the impact of which is already being felt as the costs of the payments towards the debt are hitting the club (as the debt is in US$). Right now it is a wait and see situation.}
1.) 24 Nov 2016 14:40:59
That was a Great question E_S and thanks for the insightful answer Ed.
2.) 24 Nov 2016 14:53:41
Thaks Edd002 for taking the time to reply, much appreciated as ever. So the plan was for LVG to retire at the end of this season, then another, older, manager to do another 4 or 5 years until he retired? was this just a plan of action or was it more concrete?
I know football finance is beyond most of us, but the exchange rate against the dollar and now brexitt and the fallout with that, would this impact then on any plans to further float shares? you say it's impacting the existing loan payment (much like my mortgage going up! ) and further, to any, even small inkling, that the glazers may have looked to sell?
Again, thanks for your reply and knowledge.
Queue some random idiot to but in know with some insult. Please don't rise to them.
{Ed002's Note - Not an older manager, but one who had agreed in principle to take on a 5 year deal with the club up until his planned early retirement. Right now the club would be an attractive purchase in GBP but not in US$ which is what a floatation would eventually yield - perhaps via a Far Easter stock exchange - probably Hong Kong. There are advisers to the business who are responsible for the exit strategy although they have, under some pressure from The AP, said that they have no plans to release control in 2017. This was taken by The AP not to exclude further sales of part of the club - but this was before the £/$ rate was skewed by Brexit.
Someone will still be doing the sums on a regular basis though and will be aware that any flotation will need to be strategically managed by location and any move back toward difficult financial times. The oil sector is going to be struggling for a few years - we already know that. Is there going to be a global financial down turn? How will the world react to having Trump as President? Is it viable for the Glazers to sell a percentage of the business (yes)? Could they sell the entire business to Far Eastern institutional investors (eventually a real and frightening option)? What input do Robert Leitão and Manu Sawhney have? Hedging their bets for the future would ESPN be interested in buying a club to leverage future benefits from a pan-European breakaway league (not disimilar to the Murdoch question answered earlier)?}
3.) 24 Nov 2016 15:15:14
Wow ed002, most insightful and informative. So uncertain times ahead then. It's funny that in our little world we see the green and gold and LVG out brigade etc, but in reality Trump coming to power, Brexit even the rise of the Chinese economy (could they be the new 2020's what the 00's were to russian / arab oil money, a face in the west) . So much more to it all than we could ever know.
Thanks again for your prompt and knowledgeable reply.
{Ed002's Note - You are welcome.}
4.) 24 Nov 2016 17:25:01
Very pertinent, regarding the future of our world economy and the possible turmoil Trump could bring ed002!
5.) 24 Nov 2016 18:42:41
Interesting reading ed002. Please keep the interesting information coming. We're always interested in any news about our club. Good or bad.
Also, I fully agree about your call on the fixtures and fittings inside the club looking shabby and old fashioned. I think it is a problem we've had for a long time since our owners took over.
Have a good evening.
6.) 25 Nov 2016 16:48:13
Was the manager allegri ed? If you don't mind me asking.
{Ed002's Note - Yes.}
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24 Nov 2016 15:21:19
I seem to have a vague recollection, was it Fergie or Martin Edwards who said be careful what you wish for. There was an equal outcry then (think green and gold), and fans celebrated in the streets. Of course the club was on the stock exchange, owned by no one, so any Tom, Magnier or Glazer could just swoop in.
If's and buts, sliding doors, what if Fergie had not took the court action re Rock of Gibraltar?
{Ed002's Note - It would have made no difference - it was a simple dispute over an unclear legal document about ownership.}
24 Nov 2016 15:15:14
Wow ed002, most insightful and informative. So uncertain times ahead then. It's funny that in our little world we see the green and gold and LVG out brigade etc, but in reality Trump coming to power, Brexit even the rise of the Chinese economy (could they be the new 2020's what the 00's were to russian / arab oil money, a face in the west) . So much more to it all than we could ever know.
Thanks again for your prompt and knowledgeable reply.
{Ed002's Note - You are welcome.}
24 Nov 2016 14:53:41
Thaks Edd002 for taking the time to reply, much appreciated as ever. So the plan was for LVG to retire at the end of this season, then another, older, manager to do another 4 or 5 years until he retired? was this just a plan of action or was it more concrete?
I know football finance is beyond most of us, but the exchange rate against the dollar and now brexitt and the fallout with that, would this impact then on any plans to further float shares? you say it's impacting the existing loan payment (much like my mortgage going up! ) and further, to any, even small inkling, that the glazers may have looked to sell?
Again, thanks for your reply and knowledge.
Queue some random idiot to but in know with some insult. Please don't rise to them.
{Ed002's Note - Not an older manager, but one who had agreed in principle to take on a 5 year deal with the club up until his planned early retirement. Right now the club would be an attractive purchase in GBP but not in US$ which is what a floatation would eventually yield - perhaps via a Far Easter stock exchange - probably Hong Kong. There are advisers to the business who are responsible for the exit strategy although they have, under some pressure from The AP, said that they have no plans to release control in 2017. This was taken by The AP not to exclude further sales of part of the club - but this was before the £/$ rate was skewed by Brexit.
Someone will still be doing the sums on a regular basis though and will be aware that any flotation will need to be strategically managed by location and any move back toward difficult financial times. The oil sector is going to be struggling for a few years - we already know that. Is there going to be a global financial down turn? How will the world react to having Trump as President? Is it viable for the Glazers to sell a percentage of the business (yes)? Could they sell the entire business to Far Eastern institutional investors (eventually a real and frightening option)? What input do Robert Leitão and Manu Sawhney have? Hedging their bets for the future would ESPN be interested in buying a club to leverage future benefits from a pan-European breakaway league (not disimilar to the Murdoch question answered earlier)?}
18 Nov 2016 13:51:08
It was indeed a fine write up by Ed002, who's knowledge and insite into not only Manchester United, but football as well, is a gift lost on this part of the forum. It has been removed, and rightly so I guess. All due to one troll. I wonder if these trolls come on the Manchester United page just to piss off Ed002? It's such a shame as the information given gives us a little insite into the workings of our club we would not see.
Ed002 and indeed all the Ed's here, please, please don't let one or two trolls ruin the fine work you do here, which the vast majority of us appreciate beyond anything.
03 Jun 2016 14:51:18
Don't forget, Real have a two window ban on transfers starting this January, so could be something in this buy now, loan back for a year story. Also, don't they have a two week deadline to meet this buyout clause?