26 Apr 2026 17:05:35
So Chelsea with a caretaker coach suddenly remember how to fight and win a match. Remind you of another team?
Just confirms how much responsibility should be on the players, not managers.
26 Apr 2026 18:58:59
If that is referring to us, that is just utter nonsense.
26 Apr 2026 22:38:42
Why is it nonsense? Even if you don't like a coach's tactics, the effort you put in every single match should be palpable.
More importantly, if you are a really good professional, you should want to and be able to learn new things and adapt. At least give your best efforts to do what a new manager asks of you.
Pep educates his players. He makes them see football through a different lens. City's team, man for man, is far better than Utds. (That hurts), but they aren't arrogant, and they listen, and do what he asks.
Most of their players are flexible enough, mentality-wise as well as technically, to play two or three different positions as required during a season. No throwing toys out of the pram.
Perhaps if Utds players had really listened to Amorim and put their whole efforts in, he might still be in charge. Yes, he made mistakes (Mainoo), but maybe if he had been given a longer time and better players to implement his style, he would have been vindicated.
Utd doing well against City, Arsenal and Liverpool suggests the players raised their level when it mattered to them, yet failed against so-called smaller teams.
Lastly, as others have pointed out, we were climbing the table under RA. He did bring in good signings and got rid of those not good enough or who didn't want to be here.
Utd are in a false position now because Liverpool, Chelsea, Villa, Spurs and Newcastle all have had poor seasons. When was the last time we put four or five goals past a side? I like Carrick because he is calm, cares about the club and has done a steady job so far. I really hope he does succeed, but I am absolutely convinced that until player power is not the dominant factor, we won't get back to the top of the tree.
27 Apr 2026 00:09:46
Your posts are so contradictory, I don't know where to start. The nonsense part is the suggestion that our players didn't try under either coach this year. I would say it's a palpable change in us. The toxic players were removed.
But, you are clearly suggesting the players are putting in an effort now that they didn't before. And I think it's clear that is nonsense. There is absolutely no sign of that at all imo.
27 Apr 2026 06:59:52
I don't know what you've been watching, DonRed, but it was obvious to me that they put more fight the moment Carrick came in.
27 Apr 2026 07:40:03
I think there was also an element of the 3 coming back from the African Cup of Nations for Carrick's first game. That was a big boost for the squad, and probably had an impact.
I do completely agree with Salford, though. You don't go through as many managers as we have - of all different experiences, success and style - and still see the same outcome without the players being the ones who the finger needs to be pointed at.
That's why we are on the eternal merry-go-round.
27 Apr 2026 09:15:45
So, what is the manager responsible for if it's all on the players and they supposedly pick and choose when to play well?