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30 Jul 2024 17:50:30
Ertan Suzgun (well renowned Turkish journalist) reporting that Besiktas have an interest in Antony. Any truth?!
1.) 30 Jul 2024 18:24:43
Let’s hope so.
2.) 30 Jul 2024 18:30:00
Maybe on loan where we will have to pay 90% of his wage.
No one who has money will pay anything like what we need them to for him.
3.) 30 Jul 2024 19:00:56
He should have been sold last summer when WH offered £30 million for him.
4.) 30 Jul 2024 19:01:13
Wrong post meant McTominay not Anthony.
5.) 30 Jul 2024 22:09:04
Then Besiktas must mean "blind" in Turkish ??♂️?.
18 Jul 2024 10:31:32
Romano reporting João Neves has agreed terms with PSG and now down to Benfica and PSG. It's a shame as I hoped he would be our CM of choice. Perhaps Neves to PSG unlocks the door for Ugarte to leave?
1.) 18 Jul 2024 20:26:50
Yoro was always going to Madrid. it ain't over until they are holding the shirt aloft. and even then, you may remember Obi Mikel.
2.) 18 Jul 2024 20:39:36
It's over jim ;)
3.) 20 Jul 2024 10:49:03
Jimbob, while we could potentially hijack the deal as nothing is signed yet. The reality is that we don't have the funds to compete for his signature given that Benfica want around 100m for him. If there is only one club interested then maybe they could get the fee down a little, but the moment two or more clubs are in for him Benfica know they can play them off against eachother and get the fee they want.
Neves is a good young player, who could potentially be great. But we don't have the funds to get into a bidding war for a player whose already valued at 100m by his club.
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31 Dec 2025 00:23:20
There's a lot of fickle fans on here. one quick scan after the game and we are back to Amorim not being the man for the job. It's ok to not use the emotion of the last game to decide whether the manager is or isn't the right one.
There is a much bigger picture in play. We currently have half of the first team squad unavailable. We had/have a rotten core in the playing squad which is largely being repaired. It has been states on multiple occasions that we are in a process and shouldn't expect an overnight fix. We don't have a central midfield currently - that will be rectified in the next two transfer windows ready for next season.
If I was offered joint 5th at the half way point of the season I would have taken it.
Tonight's result and performance were really not good, but we've got the take the rough with the smooth. In my opinion we are making progress and there are major changes underway.
My point here is that we all need to stop using the latest emotion of the last result to decide our feeling on the team, and more importantly the manager.
1.) 31 Dec 2025 06:49:14
No doubt in my mind the manager and the team above him are the right choices and in it for the longer haul.
The team however is who should be held accountable to what is served up. For years we have been weak and that showed again last night.
Players being out of position did not help, but they should still turn up and we shouldn't need to go 4 at the back against Wolves, not ever.
2.) 31 Dec 2025 08:43:29
He absolutely is not the man for the job. I wish he was but this is not the guy. I don't see enough improvement from when he started. He over complicates the game so much that it takes away from players performance. He will require a starting 11 of superstars to play the way he wants. I know we are missing players but my opinion is not based off the wolves result, because the main reason he is not our guy is because what I am watching on the pitch is nothing like watching Man Utd.
It's risk averse, slow play no attacking wingers, and last centre forwards. I am not in favour of always changing managers but this is not our guy.
3.) 31 Dec 2025 09:16:17
Amorim hasn’t shown anything over the last 12 months to say he’s the best person for the job.
- Worst EPL finish
- Lost Europa (changed selection, lost game) .
- Worse Utd Manager statistically for around 40 years.
- Signings, non doing as well at Utd vs previous club.
- Sold Players now performing well.
Older fans know say this Dave Sexton era management.
But we can’t fire him.
It will affect January and Summer business.
No obvious options to replace him.
Elite Managers want change at Summer not mid season.
Post World Cup, Tuchel, Poch, Ancelloti, Nagglesman could be options.
Time to emotionally disengage is better advice.
4.) 31 Dec 2025 10:47:15
JD I hear what you are saying and you are right to some degree. It's the big picture, we need to keep looking at that.
But he isn't helping himself with performances and set ups like that.
We were truly awful. I've always defended him but last night was a bit of a turning point for me, there are no excuses for that.
Hope it's a kick up the arse for all involved.
5.) 31 Dec 2025 11:43:31
I do agree with some of the points above. A case of rock and a hard place. There's the old logic that the table doesn't lie. Besides Villa I don't think any of us would have argued that the teams above us would deserve to be come the end of the season.
It is very much one step forward and one step back but I do personally believe we are on the right path with Amorim.
10 Dec 2025 11:59:02
We haven't had much chat about January with the window approaching. What do people think the realistic ins and outs are. Personally I think it will be very quiet with little either way.
1.) 10 Dec 2025 13:03:51
Agreed. Need outs before any ins.
2.) 10 Dec 2025 15:27:20
Will Mainoo stay? He seems pretty unhappy.
If he goes on loan, does a Gallagher or possibly Baleba at a push, come in?
Midfield looks light due to amorim not trusting ugarte and mainoo. We are fools if we don't bring in a midfielder. But we can be pretty foolish, so who knows.
3.) 10 Dec 2025 15:43:13
Outs = unfortunately Mainoo, hopefully a loan but maybe permanent.
Ins = assume we will get a CM on loan like we did with Sabitzer a few years ago.
4.) 10 Dec 2025 15:52:54
Mainoo out on loan, possibly a loan coming in as replacement.
Don't think they'll be any permanent transfers coming in. January isn't really a good month and we probably won't have funds available.
We have Rashford, Hojlund, Sancho, Onana, Amass and Colyer all out on loan. I expect we will do a bit of business in the summer if we can turn some of these loans into permanent deals.
5.) 10 Dec 2025 17:46:23
I'd imagine malacia zirkzee mainoo and ugarte are all available in January if the right offer or interest comes.
A Gallagher loan probably will come to fruition if we move on one of the 2 midfielders.
A forward might be brought in if we find someone with the right profile and zirkzee moves.
6.) 10 Dec 2025 19:14:46
I don't think too much will happen but I can still live in hope. ?.
7.) 11 Dec 2025 18:02:03
The January before a world cup is always a good opportunity to get loans in. Bolton used to be the masters of this. Some of the deals they used to pull off were fantastic.
8.) 11 Dec 2025 20:59:13
I agree Peter. There has to be some good options that are in a similar position to Mainoo.
Gallagher perhaps and he does bring that intensity that Amorim appears to be after.
As usual it will depend on terms of loans and any obligations thereafter.
Ugarte mainoo and zirkzee and perhaps malacia are all potential outs if we can find replacements for any of them.
30 Oct 2024 07:57:30
Hopefully we get confirmation of Amorin soon. If we do what is everyone's opinion on what would be a 'successful' season?
1.) 30 Oct 2024 08:14:14
To be honest I will be happy with anything above 8th. As long as there is a marked improvement and a definitive style of play then we can build on that.
Let’s not fool ourselves that whoever comes in will need to turn a rudderless ship rather quickly.
2.) 30 Oct 2024 08:49:18
This season is a write off as far as league is concerned. If we have a definitive style of play by the rnd of the season, i will call it successful. Anything in the Europa League will be a bonus.
3.) 30 Oct 2024 09:11:50
Successful would be seeing the formation or start to see a structure and pattern, see some good football the development of young players. He wouldn’t have to win anything this season but if he did it would be a big bonus after the horrible ETH mess. let's just hope it gets over the line.
4.) 30 Oct 2024 09:13:21
Quite simply I want to feel we have finally found a manager to replace Fergie. A manager that gets United.
It isn't about winning yet at all for me, its about finding a manager whose team excites who brings through youth who is clearly taking us on a wild journey, it will take a few years and will have ups and downs.
Sucess for me is finding our Klopp, a manager who finds a home here and becomes United.
The prioriry is to make Saturday, Sunday, Wednesday, Thursday great fun again.
5.) 30 Oct 2024 09:40:29
Only 7 points off 4th I think?
If he can come in and hit the ground running and pick up a few results we will climb back up the table quick enough. I think if he can get us around 6th/ 7th by January with a couple of additions then we could be well placed to push for top 4. Still plenty to fight for.
6.) 30 Oct 2024 09:45:36
There's 3/ 4 of the season to go. We are in all the cups.
If all we needed was a good coach, then I think he should be aiming for a trophy for sure, and a decent position in the league for his first year. 6th?
7.) 30 Oct 2024 10:45:30
100% agree with oakbark.
The mentality of thinking a league cup victory is a measure of success for united is wrong imo.
We need to put ourselves in a position to compete for the top prizes league / cl.
Winning tin pot cups and thinking that's success for this club is way off what the fans want.
A team and manager we can be proud of is what I'm looking for. A team that represents the fans and plays with attacking intent.
Most of our last few managers never represented me as a united fan nor did their players or teams.
8.) 30 Oct 2024 11:22:07
Ken, do you think we can put ourselves into that mix this season?
A few wins in a row will change the perspective. After Sunday we have a nice few fixtures until arsenal on dec 4th
I think we may surprise ourselves. I think we can be right up there.
9.) 30 Oct 2024 11:36:15
I'm always hopeful angel. But the hange in shape is huge so the coaching will the time to pay dividends.
There is an outside chance but I. Skeptical because chins are on the floor and there are massive changes afoot.
I expe t some players to flourish it just depends o how quickly they and the manager can adapt.
It's a tall order considering the mess left behind.
Amorim is coming in after our worst epl manager I our history and the worst in over 50 years so it's not an easy baton to take on.
He had a lot of repairing to do on players mentality.
We are at the lowest ebb ever in the modern era so the only way is up.
10.) 30 Oct 2024 11:48:29
Assuming he comes in soon, then trophies etc aren't the measure of success in the short term imo.
This season I would want to see him get us back up well into the top half of the table, but mainly I want to see a clear tactical style emerging, even if it takes a little while for the players to fully adapt to it.
I want to look forward to watching us play again, I want to see a clear identity and style, and I want to see clear improvement in performance. Trophies and league position are less important for this season (within reason) .
11.) 30 Oct 2024 11:50:10
Definite style of play, more consistent results and success in Europa League.
12.) 30 Oct 2024 12:10:41
Lowest ebb? After 2 trophies. Surely there have been worse years in our history.
I think you are being extremely generous ken.
Things can change quite quickly in this game.
13.) 30 Oct 2024 12:36:27
I’ll be happy if the new manager can get us playing good football and avoid relegation.
14.) 30 Oct 2024 13:09:17
I think the early (ish) change will be because the board feel we can still make a fist of things. Top 4 is off the table IMO but all cups are still up for grabs.
As an aside, it feels wrong to chuck him in the deep end sunday against a vastly improved Chelsea, especially if he's going to completely mix it up with this new formation. I think he should quietly watch from the stands and soak it all in.
15.) 30 Oct 2024 14:03:56
Angel we have never finished as low we did last season and never been as low as we are this season.
Lowest ebb is factually correct.
Never scored less goals.
This is our lowest ebb for 50 years . The narrative he had was we won 2 cups and thinks he was successful. Ergo he is not here anymore.
Totally at odds with expectations from the majority of the fan base.
A good date did not signify a good relationship. A cup won did not signify success at united when the core challenges are so insipid.
16.) 30 Oct 2024 17:14:08
Like everyone else, I was hoping for top 4 and a good run at a trophy. The cups are still there, but just enjoying watching us again will do for me this season, and maybe actually sticking the ball in the back of the net!
17.) 30 Oct 2024 17:25:08
In fact, scrap my last answer.
If he can instill a clear tactical direction, and get the players consistently behaving and playing like professionals, I'd accept finishing in our current position this season.
Of course if he manages those 2 things, we wouldn't finish in our current position.
18.) 30 Oct 2024 18:57:29
I think we are going to win the quadruple, why not got to have a goal.
24 May 2014 12:39:50
So Robben and Kroos both ruled themselves out in the past couple of days and I can't help but think that the Evra renewal may be a precaution in regards to the apparently undeveloping Shaw deal. Arsenal are of course rumoured to be in for Fabregas and I see no logical reason as to why he would join us over Arsenal considering his history and the promise of CL football.
Anyone else have an inkling that this may be another summer where there is 'no value in the market' or am I over-reacting?
JD.
{Ed007's Note - You're over-reacting JD, kick back and chillax bro.}
30 Oct 2024 07:48:22
Very interesting and you do have to questions the players too. I'd suggest most on here would back the younger group. We all know there are rotten apples in the bunch but with most of those on long contracts, I don't see how it's going to get better unless they are phased out (which I'd be happy with! )
10 Jan 2026 10:26:39
Agree on pretty much all counts. I'm one of those you call out at the end going to every game. Under Amorim I was enjoying it for the first time in a long time as it felt like watching a long-term journey.
I've totally lost that excitement now and the thought of going to games just doesn't appeal. I'll be there nevertheless but I'm fed up of constantly going back on the merry go round.
07 Jan 2026 22:20:17
Completely agree. One step forwards, 3 steps back every time.
06 Jan 2026 13:49:59
I'm with Fizz and Redman, not so much from a 'results on the pitch perspective' but for what it means for our club. I had sensed the culture change - the collaborative direction, the rotten eggs being removed from the club, a positive dressing room who are aligned with the manager, a manager who is young, developing and building a long-term playing style and approach.
All of that has been destroyed in one fell swoop. This puts us back on the merry go round of manager in, manager out with no clear direction and no end goal in sight. Are we as stupid as Chelsea to seek short term success and then not actually deliver against it? That's exactly what is going to happen. again.
As crazy as it might sound, when I look at the list of managers we are being linked with, I see nothing inspiring and candidly nothing that makes me excited to go to every game. I'd actually found that again for the first time since 2012 even though the results weren't good. I felt I was watching a journey and the club re-finding itself and the principles that it was built on.
I'd take Amorim back in a heartbeat - at least we had a direction and a vision to get behind.
04 Jan 2026 19:18:25
Nothing changed for me and completely agree. I've mentioned a few times that some on here seem to believe we have a divine right to win even though we are clearly in a multi-year process.
31 Dec 2025 15:17:16
Red, I agree we should have won those games, but unfortunately we didn't. My point is that we tend to magnify the down times and forget to remember what has and is going well.
We also need to remember we aren't the only team in the league and we don't have divine right to win.
Using the same logic what about Chelsea drawing to B'mouth twice in a month and losing to Leeds 3-1 after beating Barcelona 3-0.
Liverpool have had a similar run of ups and downs. Both teams are above us in the league.
We aren't alone in the turbulence but again, we don't have a divine right to win in the here and now and we have to trust the process and the shockers (which I completely agree with you on! ) along the way.