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02 Mar 2020 07:26:04
Can’t help but feel deflated after that draw yesterday. Everytime we have the chance the close the gap on Chelsea we fail to do so. Top 4 is there for anyone who can show any sort of consistency.

Can’t say I’m particularly impressed by yesterday. First half we played some good stuff but that second half was atrocious. In game management from Ole was poor and he failed to change anything when Everton got momentum. Bruno again stand out player and What a player he looks. Shudder to think where we would be if we hadn’t signed him in January.

2 players I think we have an issue with, I’m also a big fan of both but think they need time out of the team. Lindelof and DDG. I don’t know what it is but Lindelof looks so shaky and the Maguire partnership doesn’t seem to be gelling. On paper they seem quite suited - Maguire providing an aerial presence complimenting Lindelof’s reading of the game and interceptions. But something ain’t quite right and we looked too open at times. Bailly has performed well and I think it’s time to try him and Maguire. I was very impressed with Maguire and think he’s been quietly good this season.

Finally onto David. These mistakes are becoming the norm. I agree with several on here who say they don’t think we should have offered him the huge contract he’s on. I fear something isn’t right mentally with him. He has a lot of credit in the bank and has been our stand out for years, but it’s time to move him on. Henderson is ready imo, or at least one more loan season away from starting for us imo.

Top 4 is there for the taking. We have the squad to achieve it, I don’t buy it’s not good enough. With everyone else faltering, we need to find that ruthless streak. Ole has done some good things during these past 7 games and deserves credit. But yesterday his in game management was extremely poor and it cost us 3 points.

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02 Mar 2020 08:29:39
Park, I agree with a lot of that, but I would take issue with you saying Dave's mistakes are, 'becoming the norm'. Yes, there have been a few howlers this season, but it's hardly a regular thing. I also thought he showed great mental strength yesterday. His head could have been up his ar$e after that mistake, yet he pulled off a great fingertip save just after. He also kept us in it with a wonderful save late on.

02 Mar 2020 08:32:32
Park,

I agree. At 55 -60 minute stage we needed to change the formation. We lacked width.

Everton knew this.

02 Mar 2020 08:38:42
And this week we turn on DDG and Lindelof. Groan.

We’ve drawn one game, away at a resurgent Everton under a world class coach.

02 Mar 2020 10:17:02
Resurgent under a world class coach.

Maybe one day.

02 Mar 2020 10:18:31
As Bruno said after the game, we can never be happy with a draw. Nice to have some of that mentality back at the club.

02 Mar 2020 10:48:22
De Gea has made the highest mistakes resulting in goals in the whole League which is quite shocking considering his high standards.
That's 8 points dropped because of goal keeping blunders.

On the positive side, Maguire was imperious aerially. Don't remember him loosing any aerial duels.

02 Mar 2020 11:51:15
My biggest issue with yesterday was that we changed from a winning formation in response to Everton’s formation.

We were picking up some momentum playing with a 4-2-3-1. Especially with Bruno getting more space behind the midfield. Changing a formation on the basis of the opposition is seldom a good idea. I know managers get praised for these types of changes, but you are ostensibly allowing the opponent to dictate the terms of the game.

It was particularly infuriating yesterday as Everton started with two ageing fullbacks. But because we had no wide players, we lost the ability to overload them. Especially Baines, as Gylfi doesn’t track back.

Ultimately we changed from a winning formation in response to the opponent, and played worse because of it.

02 Mar 2020 13:18:03
I get your point on DE Gea but I doubt any other keeper in league would've saved DCL shot to keep it at 1-0.

He makes saves that only he can make especially with his feet.

02 Mar 2020 13:52:46
That’s a good point Stevie and I do agree on his save at the end. But DDG has made 7 mistakes leading to goals (joint with Pickford) . It’s just not really good enough and has cost us a fair few times.

Eric - there is a difference between constructively criticising someone and turning in a different player every week. My opinion is that both players haven’t been performing to the level I know they are capable of. Nothing wrong with that opinion.

02 Mar 2020 14:16:02
I would personally just like us to turn a game on its head i know the stat was under ole we haven't won when conceding first. Not sure if its still valid but if it is we need to get over it you can sense when we go behind we won't win. Blame all the players we want but u win lose or draw as a team.

02 Mar 2020 15:51:58
W16, I think they showed spirit to come back yesterday. Especially when you think how they capitulated last season after going a goal down.

02 Mar 2020 18:02:49
Park, totally agree with your post and especially on ddg. He's making a lot of glaring mistakes and stats don't lie, he's made the highest number of blunders leading to goals, an unenviable stat he shares with Pickford. And if anyone suggested to any of us that Pickford is a good goalkeeper, then we'll all laugh in their faces.

Ddg is not the best gk in the world, as Solskjaer has told us, he was the best in the world as his mistakes were almost none. But now, he's making lots of mistakes. He's also not good at commanding his area or distribution.

So, do we stick with him, or give an extremely promising young gk his chance. Henderson has simply been superb this year. So we must throw sentimentality out of the window and take action. This is what Fergie would've done.





 

 

 
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