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16 Aug 2020 18:54:55
Ole proving once again how weak he is.

Starting DDG 😂😂😂😂.


1.) 16 Aug 2020 19:12:58
Wow, really? Because he is giving support to a goalkeeper who was our best player for very long time? You can't just flush players down the toilet as soon as they play several bad games.

Maybe Ole should be criticized for some things he does, but this surely isn't one of those.

{Ed047's Note - “was”🤷‍♂️


2.) 16 Aug 2020 19:15:25
and playing fred again has he been watching someone else play.

{Ed047's Note - yes probably Fabinho 😉


3.) 16 Aug 2020 19:35:18
De Gea is the number 1. He'll be the number 1 next season by the looks of things so not at all surprising that he's playing.

I'd be much more concerned about Fred playing ahead of Matic.


4.) 16 Aug 2020 19:56:22
I personally think Fred offers a lot more than Matic and I'm glad he's starting, I think he was one of our best players in the 1st half of the season. Whether or not it's a good decision we will find out in the next couple of hours. Come on you reds. GGMU.


5.) 16 Aug 2020 19:59:07
Watch the game and then see if it’s the right decision.


6.) 16 Aug 2020 20:16:13
I’m sure the original comment was meant in jest.
More concerned about penalty no.21 of the season. All count I suppose.


7.) 17 Aug 2020 00:42:04
i think Fred starts over Matic because Luke Shaw is not playing. they need a left footer but it takes Pogba out of the game as he has to play deeper.


8.) 17 Aug 2020 08:31:15
Matic is left footed too.


9.) 17 Aug 2020 08:42:04
Static is too slow.


10.) 17 Aug 2020 13:23:22
Static is very very slow hatter lol :) )


 

 

15 Mar 2020 20:43:46
Can people honestly see the season finishing?

Be realistic?

The virus will be worse in April and May time and the country will be on lock anytime soon, for how long is anyone's guess.

For the the best course of action is to cancel the season start again August, keep the Champions League and Europa teams the same as this season.

I know it's frustrating situation but it's a serious event happening right now of which isolation is the best way to prevent spreading the virus.

Will players or teams want to continue the season in May/June? Because I very much doubt the season will be back up and running in 3 weeks when the cases are going up higher and higher everyday.


You could say realistically the only premier League teams who would want to finish the season is Liverpool for obvious reasons, Leicester and possibly Sheffield United and Wolves.

Teams at the bottom will not want the season to finish and probably say they refuse as players life's are at risk.

I doubt they'll play the remaining games behind closed doors.

I just hope hope it gets cancelled and have a null and void season.


1.) 15 Mar 2020 22:21:00
End it, stand the tables as they are and promote Leeds and west brom, vote on scousers being champs, or not.


2.) 15 Mar 2020 22:47:59
Yes, behind closed doors and next season delayed by 2 months.


3.) 16 Mar 2020 06:43:47
There is only two fair ways to go from here in my opinion, neither is ideal but health is most important.
1. Cancel the season and start fresh next year meaning no promotion or relagation, no cup or league champs across the board.

2. Find a way to finish all leagues and cups wether with fans or behind closed doors.


4.) 16 Mar 2020 09:15:41
I don't see there being a way to finish the season sadly. China have had this since October (6 months) and are still having to deal with it. To think we will have it under control in less than 6 months is a little optimistic. In 6 months time it will be August and what should be the start of next season.

So for me the idea that the season could be finished is just a pipe dream.

Which actually hits us pretty hard as it means we are almost certainly going to miss out out UCL football next year now.

I don't think there is any chance of having some sort of play off system to decide either relegation or qualification for the UCL. If we can play those games then we can play league games. Likewise the idea that they will have an extra qualifying round and have several extra teams that could have qualified enter at that stage doesn't sound feasible either, those games would need to be played in July which is likely to be an issue.

The most feasible thing is to null and void the season and go off of last year's final table for European places. That means no one gets promotion or relegation, while no one wins the league. It's unfair on everyone. But health has to come first.


5.) 16 Mar 2020 09:24:38
Postpone the Euros to allow clubs to finish season and competitions.

Read an interesting idea about resolving current cup competitions in a mini-tournament consisting of last 16 in four tables.

If virus carries on beyond August and ne t season starts in, say, October, play leagues as normal but condense cup competitions and even scrap Euros/ International friendliest to wait for World Cup in 2022.

Awful not having any football but bigger issues out there at the moment.


6.) 16 Mar 2020 11:23:37
Also, play offs for fourth CL spot between Chelsea, United, , Sheffield United and Woves?

Keep top 3 the same as now.


7.) 16 Mar 2020 13:22:25
Wallace, the more bodies involved the harder it becomes to organise. The FA, plus the FA's of other nations, UEFA, FIFA etc will all have their own interests they will look to protect.

The idea that the UEFA would happily delay the Euro's so that club football could be played seems unlikely.

The same with FIFA and the world cup.

When dealing with bodies such as UEFA with regards to their club competitions (UCL and Europa League) they will have to have dialogue with many different national FA's, some like Italy's will have less flexibility than others due to government interventions.

It's not as simple as just delaying everything, or coming up with some sort of shorter play off tournament.

It will either be play the games or null and void the season. With the latter looking more likely due to the fact that we might be as much as 6 months away from actually being able to play games.

This has the potential to drag out for most of the year, That might make it hard to even start next season on time. That's the reality.


8.) 16 Mar 2020 18:47:15
Thought-provoking argument Shappy but perhaps the main reason the Euros etc would dictate the agenda would be financial rather than for the good if the respective leagues which, after all, is the bread and butter of each country’s FA and without which there would be no lucrative International football. In other words, the leagues are the lifeblood of football and must be given priority.


9.) 16 Mar 2020 23:47:51
Not going to happen. We are in it for the medium to long haul. No more football 😭.


10.) 18 Mar 2020 09:30:27
If the season is voided there are going to be a hell of a lot of court cases to follow .


11.) 18 Mar 2020 11:14:55
They will postpone the season. See the effect of the virus and realistically calculate if they can resume the season when the virus has been "controlled".

Until the country knows how long we have this virus for at a higher %. At the moment the % is getting higher and higher so first thing is we need to get the % controlled. (I personally think until late summer)

Then they won't be able to make a decision. Realistically I think you will have to void the season down the line as the season runs until 30 June. I don't think we be allowed to travel aboard until the end of the year.


12.) 18 Mar 2020 18:20:50
I think it's just a slow death. The current suggestion is that social distancing measures will need to increase to slow the spread. We could be under lock down like many other countries within days. Parts of China are in the 10th week of a lockdown and it doesn't look like they can lift it any time soon.

The governments predictions that we could see 12 weeks of disruption seems optimistic at best. If we enter a lock down for 10 weeks that will take us until June. The idea that the EPL could fit in 90 fixtures in June is frankly ridiculous.

The likelihood is that even at the start of June that there will be social distancing measures still in place. In which case playing games is unlikely to be viable.

I hope they can finish the season, I want to see United play. I want to see us try and win the FA cup and the Europa League, I want to see us push to get top four. But the reality is that is very unlikely to happen.

My university exams for May have been switched to online tests as they don't expect people to be able to take them in person.

GCSE's and A level exams have been suspended. If kids can't take exams for their futures in May and June then the reality is that football matches won't be happening.

Firstly it's immoral to put players, club staff, TV and media crews, ground staff, as well as medical and police staff needed to play a game even behind closed doors, at risk of catching and spreading an illness that will still be keeping people shut within their houses.

Secondly, they would need to bring in private security and medical personnel to run to safety as the UK government has already said they won't be providing any to mass gatherings and that is unlikely to change unless we are over the crisis.

I believe they are making the right noises about trying to get these games played but are either fully aware they won't be or painfully ignorant of just how big this issue is.


13.) 18 Mar 2020 19:49:46
Let's be honest nobody has any idea when "normal" life can resume. The football authorities are just as ignorant as us.

Maybe the best way forward is for there to be a three or four week period of friendlies amongst English clubs as soon as the all clear from the virus is given. This will give teams time to get match fitness.

Then let the leagues resume until final positions are decided. Then depending on how much time is left in what would have been a regular season but with teams playing each other only once. Half of a teams matches woukd be home and half away. Their would be an end of season champion for each division and promotion and relegation decided as normal. No one could complain as the rules would be clear to all from the outset.


14.) 18 Mar 2020 20:33:08
There’s no way the current season can’t be resolved first. Too many financial implications across the whole pyramid from Liverpool down to the lower leagues. Maybe it’ll be behind closed doors, where a home crowd can’t influence a game and things won’t feel right. But they’ll be resolved.

There are no fixtures set in stone for next season or what remains of this season. Next season might go down in history as the one that didn’t start in August, and they might have to stagger them over a few seasons before we’re back to normal. But people set the dates, and they have the power to improvise. Forget a new season having to start in August.


15.) 21 Mar 2020 09:27:25
They could look at it as an opportunity.

The world cup is in Qatar and would need to be played in the winter months as it is too hot in the summer. therefore by finishing the season when they can and then moving the next season on a few months it would be beneficial to them.

Say they won't be able to play football til july there is 10 premier league games per team, 3 games from the fa cup, 6 from europa league,6 from champions league. 25 games for teams still in the competitions stated.

even if they played 2 games a week your still looking at 3 months which would take you to end of october. You then have the off season so that would effectively move the new season to january or february depending on time they allow for offseason.

Then that off season becomes available for the world cup!

BOOM instant money going to FIFA, UEFA and all the FA's.


 

 

27 Feb 2020 15:32:46
Interesting stat if true.

When Matic has played we've kept 14 clean sheets, when he hasn't we've kept 3.

Just shows if these stats are true how he transform our team and makes a stronger unit. For instance the City game in first leg first half we were cut to shreds and he came on second and we were far better.

For me he's the best CDM at the club and his legs have far from gone.


1.) 27 Feb 2020 18:32:26
Instead of looking at stats, look at his performances. The last 3-4 games he has been good.

Other than that, he had been average.


2.) 27 Feb 2020 19:06:38
This just shows that we need to sign a really good DM.

Neves
Soumare
Zakaria

Imagine if we were lucky enough to sign Neves. A DM that can play and score and set the pace of the game.


3.) 27 Feb 2020 20:14:22
PogtheDog,

I agree with you.


4.) 27 Feb 2020 20:51:37
Well it's no coincidence that when he plays were a better team.


5.) 28 Feb 2020 00:45:51
I don’t watch wolves that often but I thought Neves was one of the worst players on the pitch in the league game at OT, I was keeping an eye on him as people say he would be a good signing but all he did was turn and pass backwards all the time and kept getting caught out of position. Maybe it was just a bad day for him.


6.) 28 Feb 2020 05:33:42
He didn't play last night.


 

 

03 Jan 2020 23:21:04
We're still 6 signings from getting any where near the top 2.

Still need CB, LB, 2xCMs, RW and ST.

AWB- been ok brilliant at times could be better going forward.

Maguire - for Me very poor. At least 8 goals come from him keeping people inside, just sticking out instead of putting body on to block shots. He's always out of position and loses ball a lot.
He does well in interceptions decent in the air but couldve signed. Mongs, Ake and Dunk to do same for less.

James - good start fizzled out. All pace little else.

Next two windows are crucial.


1.) 03 Jan 2020 23:34:00
James does what Rashford or Martial do, which is track back and still has a tank load of desire and energy late in games when he plays a full 90.


2.) 04 Jan 2020 00:23:27
James is in the top 3 or 4 in the league I believe for stats. he's been very good. Coming from an average championship team aswell so I think you're being a bit harsh on the kid.


3.) 04 Jan 2020 00:31:32
Does nothing but 3 goals, 6 assists (most in the club this season) tracks back, win free kicks, and goes past people.

James has been one of our most consistent performers this year with a goal or an assist every other game so fizzled out is a bit harsh.


4.) 04 Jan 2020 08:06:53
Ah nothing like judging players after only 6 months of trying to settle in to a new team, Club, city etc. All they’re were good signings and an upgrade on what we have. Issue being we need 5-6 more as stated. This squad is negligently paper thin, and the worst one I’ve seen collectively for over 30 years.


5.) 04 Jan 2020 08:10:52
While playing on his weaker side (right hand side rather than the left) .

He has 9 goals/ assists from 18 games while playing in his weaker position, in a team that isn't playing well consistently, while stepping up from the Championship to the EPL.

If James can replicate or improve his goal/ assist return in the second half of the season to finish with 18+ goals/ assists for his first season at the club. Then he will have a strong case for being our best signing of last summer.


6.) 04 Jan 2020 10:03:22
THE worrying trend after reading posts, a lot from the eds is that as a club we are not an attractive proposition to the better players.
As ed002 states regularly, we seem to be run in an amaturish way and are always last to the party when it comes to negotiating: indeed we pay top dollar for the preverbial unwanted sausage roll! .
The fact that regular posters on here are clamouring for 5/ 6 signings in this window as opposed to 1/ 2 teaks would be good in the past, shows how far the standard of our recruits have fallen.
Any bright light in the team, AWB, JAMES, GREENWOOD etc are quite often masked by the overpayed, underachievers lingard, pogba martial, shaw and maquire to certain extent.
Dont know the answer but sadly convinced that the former legend of a player who both smiles in defeat all too easily and has seemingly no idea/ plan abc tactically- isn't the answer. I really fear decades of mediocraty for us with drastic reductions in revenue causing the club to fail to recover to our former glory years.


7.) 04 Jan 2020 14:19:07
Add maddison into our team and I think we would comfortably be in top 4 with a healthy squad. Andreas has been our best 10, but goals, assists and general creativity has been poor from that position all season.

Fred and Mctom would be effective with that sort of creativity ahead of them.

But we are paper thin for injuries in midfield and Pogba clearly wants to go. So that becomes a second urgent need. Matic wants to go, so our depth is worrying. CN any of of young players step up in this second half? So one purchase plus an increased role from Youth perhaps?

Ed2 mentioned getting Saul in for PP. I would be stunned if Saul would come to us right now, but that would be a big upgrade to our midfield this season. I don't think we need a CDM - just better all round midfielders to add to Fred and McT.


8.) 04 Jan 2020 15:59:23
Ole's biggest mistake was selling Fellaini. We moan about not being able to break the smaller teams down, no plan B if the front three cannot find away through, yet we had the perfect solution, send up the big man to create mayhem, confusion and usually a goal.


9.) 04 Jan 2020 21:39:37
So ole's biggest mistake is selling the guy that 99% of people on here wanted sold?


10.) 07 Jan 2020 20:59:06
Elbows Fellaini was a great Plan B. But I think that by selling him Man Utd. were making a statement that they were moving away from that strategy.

I actually think that Fellaini would feature loads for Man Utd. while you're struggling in a game. It's a shame for you that he's no longer an option.


 

 

01 Dec 2019 22:26:55
Now is the time to anounce Poch.
Ole is out his depth. Were playing poor football, his tactics etc are awful 20 odd % win proves the point. Need to act now before to late.


1.) 02 Dec 2019 04:42:53
Why would poch want to come he's likely got his pick of a few big teams in europe.


2.) 02 Dec 2019 08:37:55
Allegri.


3.) 02 Dec 2019 09:45:22
It's a huge job, top managers will have interest.


4.) 02 Dec 2019 10:13:40
Most may have reservations as the fans have shown they have absolutely no patience whatsoever, a few bad results and they would be on his back, and any manager coming in with this squad would get bad results. We all complained in the summer that we didn't get the players we needed, we all knew we were short, so I am not sure why people were expecting us to be amazing.

I don't think Ole is the right man going forward, but he might be the right man to make some calls now, ship out the rest of the bad apples and leave the next manager with a better chance. A new manager coming in now would have the exact same issues as Ole.


5.) 02 Dec 2019 12:33:40
Wonder if Florentino Perez also thinks the same before a sacking. What if my next manager thinks that fans will have issues.

Man Utd will be a lucrative job for any manager provided he has the balls to do it.


6.) 02 Dec 2019 15:29:51
Stop listening to the biased reporting, Ole's win rate is NOT 20 odd % it is 48%.

P 50
W 24.


7.) 02 Dec 2019 15:55:42
He won the first 10 games so he's only won 14 of the last 40 games. that's a pretty poor statistic.

Although, I am for him staying a bit longer things really need to improve. Midfield needs an overhaul. Same issue since before Scholes retired.


8.) 02 Dec 2019 18:31:52
Midfield is the key to progress.


9.) 02 Dec 2019 19:50:38
Oh GDS, come on.


10.) 02 Dec 2019 21:54:55
Woodward leaving is the only key to progress.


11.) 02 Dec 2019 23:32:01
If we’re backing a manager to take on a five year project we need to back someone who’s achieved something worthwhile in the past. Our manager hasn’t. There is no evidence that he can turn things around. We’re better off cutting our losses now and appointing someone who has a proven track record in delivering the change we want to see.

Also, any manager who thought we could deliver this season with this squad is clueless. I’ve not spoken to anyone who didn’t see this coming in Aug.


12.) 02 Dec 2019 23:51:28
If we had a decent midfield we would concede less and score more. We are scoring twos and threes as it is. Imagine if our strikers had a proper supply line from midfielders who also chopped in with a few goals.


13.) 03 Dec 2019 16:04:40
he puts Maguire as captain. I was there sumday he never talks. Never organises the degence and he certainly does not have leadership skills.

Has hour defence really improved? Were conceding every game.

Midfield was our biggest problem we needed two top CMs and he sigms another LW oppsed to Martial amd Rashford we already had.

He then gets rid a proven goalscorer albeit not the best in Solsjkaers tactics.

His playing legacy is papering over his inabiltu managerial flaws.


 

 

 

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26 Sep 2020 14:40:16
Anyone on here actually going to defend Ole any more? I'd say sack him Monday morning. The guys shambles. Defending a 1 goal lead again. Doesn't have a clue and tactically inept.

Hiring and firing isn't the way to go but neither is Ole sooner he's out the better.


1.) 26 Sep 2020 15:23:28
Of course sack the manager after the second game of the season with no back up plan. Jesus 🙆‍♂️🙆‍♂️🙆‍♂️.


2.) 26 Sep 2020 15:29:50
Yet his team won.


3.) 26 Sep 2020 15:41:59
We've been battered 2 or games in a row very lucky today.

We were rubbish against Luton.

He has no clue. It's not about 2 games it's about being tactically inept and clueless decision making time after time.

He's a joke manager who is out of his depth, he's the worst manager in the league fact.


4.) 26 Sep 2020 15:55:01
Simon, we need to realise that ole needs to win 5-0 every time or else it’s the same rubbish on here. Winning ugly is something all sides need. I’d take 30 wins like that a season lol.


5.) 26 Sep 2020 16:19:47
The worst manager in the league? Surely he's the worst in Europe, the World, the Universe. HE'S A DISGRACE.

{Ed047's Note - that’s harsh mate, it’s only 2 games in! 🤦‍♂️


6.) 26 Sep 2020 16:22:28
Defending a 1 goal lead, when we are not fully match fit, were being ripped apart down our right hand side and having lost our opening game, sounds absolutely reasonable to me.


7.) 26 Sep 2020 16:44:24
Why do I keep seeing people saying we were bad against Luton? Did they just read the BBC text commentary and think it was accurate?

Luton wasn't a great performance, but we were never really under any real threat, and their keeper had a great game, it could easily have been 5 or 6 otherwise.


8.) 26 Sep 2020 16:53:56
Fact? 🤣 How is it fact? There are 5 teams that have lost 2 games with a minus goal difference. Got to love the hyperbole.


9.) 26 Sep 2020 17:15:22
Pogba, Ole and edd out with immediate effect, this is the minimum required to move on. All out of their depth.


10.) 26 Sep 2020 17:26:48
The manager you want gone so badly finished 3rd last season with the squad you want fully replacing.

Think about that for a minute.


11.) 26 Sep 2020 17:46:03
Thorne

We were bad against Luton, I watched it and if not for Henderson’s save we could have been in trouble. If you watched it then did you see a well organised and well coached team that lacked a bit of fitness? Did you see the same today?


12.) 26 Sep 2020 18:00:35
The one save he had to make all game.


13.) 26 Sep 2020 20:26:51
The performance was rubbish.
But we held on.
Victory is all that matters and more minutes to get more match fitness.

Looks like toxics are out again 😂.


14.) 26 Sep 2020 22:12:36
Were tactically shocking can't believe people think Ole is the man.


 

 

13 Sep 2020 15:37:04
Anyone else think with signing of DVB we could possibly play the 4222 formation ed 001 ( I think) was saying Ole preferred way of playing.

I don't know if anyone else has previously mentioned this.

Obviously that is depending on other signings. (That's of course if we do)

But with what we've got it could turn out to be a 4222

DVB Matic sitting with Fernandes and Pogba further forward and rashford and Martial up top?

With not having the most attacking full backs in the league I think it could make sense.


Could be far fetched like but a thought.


1.) 13 Sep 2020 16:05:44
I hope not. We are more effective playing with two wide men and I think we’ve struggled for the whole time we’ve not had a RW for that reason.

We play on a wide pitch so we should use that to our advantage by stretching the opposition defence.


2.) 13 Sep 2020 16:27:24
Wilbot - I think a lot will depend on if we sign Sancho or another RW!

Ole's preferred formation appears to be a 4-2-3-1 and I'm not sure that's about to change. The fact we want Sancho suggests to me that Ole still intends to predominantly use this formation.

There has been a lot of speculation about how Ole could fit Pogba, Fernandes and VdB in the same midfield and I personally like the look of a midfield diamond. With Matic anchoring the midfield, Pogba left of centre, VdB right and Fernandes at No10 on paper it looks like a well balanced and formidable midfield. From what I've seen VbB is a very good midfield runner, he likes to make advanced runs into the box where he can be elusive and hard to pick up. Pogba is always better further forward in my opinion where he can effect the game in more advanced positions and Fernandes has been brilliant in that No10 role.

I think the only problem with this formation is it lacks width and our full backs have struggled to perform consistently from an attacking perspective. Having said that Rashford, Martial or Greenwood are all capable of drifting into wide positions with Fernandes, VdB and Pogba making runs into the box.

Whilst I don't think Shaw is the most refined attacking outlet he does make some good runs and the team looks more balanced when he starts. His injury record is a concern and with a condensed season he won't be able to play every game.

I just wonder if we can't land Sancho then maybe we should make an attacking left back our next priority! Williams has been good but from but an attacking perspective it's hard for him to overlap and deliver quality into the box not being naturally left footed.

Whilst I still think Ole favours a 4-2-3-1 I just wonder if this might evolve as the season progresses especially if we don't sign another RW before the deadline.


3.) 13 Sep 2020 17:47:27
Agreed that a diamond looks like suiting our midfield options the most, but AWB cannot play a forward pass and Rashford isn’t a central striker. I think we’ll still play 4-2-3-1, with vdB, Pog and Bruno rotating in games against the top 8, but all three playing in games where we’ve traditionally struggled to break teams down, the likes of Burnley at home etc.


4.) 13 Sep 2020 18:10:54
I think if we sign

Reguilion
Upamecano and
Sancho will prove to be a good window but I'll be surprised if we sign anyone else.


5.) 13 Sep 2020 18:47:49
Those 3 would be an unbelievable window Wilbot.


6.) 13 Sep 2020 19:54:57
I’d rather not spend money on CB and let Mengi come through, rather than have 9 central defenders in the squad!

Sancho and a left back and I’m very happy.


7.) 14 Sep 2020 11:58:10
Diogo Dalot could provide width in the games we need it because we play a diamond in midfield.

But it seems he is out of Cavour for some reason
But we could have Shaw and Dalot bombing forward on the wings.

Would leave us way open at the back though with Lindelof being the quickest out of him, Maguire and Matic.


8.) 14 Sep 2020 12:50:28
I think one of the reasons Dalot is out of favour is that Ole puts a lot on physical robustness.

I suppose as a player who suffered a few injuries and used to play with pain killing injections he probably has very little time for players who declare themselves unable to play because they have a bruise.

I'm not saying that Dalot is like that, just that Ole doesn't place his trust in any player who he can't rely on to be fit.

Rojo out the door on loan, he has more faith in Tuanzebe than Jones or Bailly. Dalot for a young player picks up a lot of injuries.


 

 

17 Aug 2020 15:34:03
So...

What's people's thoughts on the season as an overall?

Think the signing of Bruno changed our fortunes and kept Ole in a job, although he should've been signed in the summer.

I think we need 2 top CBs, possibly LB, CDM, RW and ST.

Get rid of Lingard, Rojo, Jones, Mata, Periera. If we don't sign another CB I'd keep Smalling as he's a better DEFENDER than what we have, just poor on the ball.

I think the C.V. break helped us a lot more than most teams due to getting big players back fit. Disrupted the likes of Leicester, Wolves and Sheff United.

I know we conceded less than last season but were still all over defensively and still making a lot of errors that lead to goals.

I think Solskjaer has been weak in his approach and letting too many people off the hook by continuing to play them even when not playing well, he doesn't have a plan B and his substitutions are awful and never changes it up enough. We seem to rigid in our approach and keep trying the same things time and time again. Need to mix it up a bit and front 3 should interchange a lot more.

Chelsea have made two top signings already and close to another two which if they can sign a top CB I think they'll be looking very good next season.

I think Sancho will massively improve us but depending on budget I wouldn't put all eggs in one basket as there's other areas that need improvement.

If the money is there id make

Giminez
Saul
Sancho

Priority.

Or

Torres
Fabian
Cheisa

Hopefully we spend on the right players that will move us forward.


1.) 17 Aug 2020 16:04:25
we finished where we aimed for top 4. had 3 good cup runs

we need a cb, cdm who can actually pass and receive the ball from defense and who can dictate the play a rw is a must and i would say we need another cm

we have no quality on the bench to be able to change a game.


2.) 17 Aug 2020 16:31:18
Those are dream signings Wilbot.
I'll even add a top quality left back to that list.


3.) 17 Aug 2020 16:33:17
The season has been very hit and miss in my opinion. We've had a few positives but a few negatives as well. Finishing 3rd, winning big games against the likes of City, Chelsea, Spurs etc. The signings have mostly worked out as well. Also the atmosphere seems to have improved around the club compared to times with LVG, Moyes and Jose.

Prior to signing Bruno, we were a very average side, since signing Bruno, playing Greenwood more often and getting Pogba and Rashford back we have definitely improved but still have plenty of flaws. We need 3 or 4 starters plus a couple of squad players before our squad is in a position to challenge for trophies in my opinion.

The questions obviously remain I've Ole, much like players stats, his stats can be skewed to show either a positive or negative picture. For example, we finished 3rd which is great but we also finished with the 2nd lowest points total we've had in the PL. Our defensive record improved significantly, however, we're still clearly not great at the back.

I like Ole, I'd love to see him succeed simply because he is a club legend but he is not the answer long term in my opinion. The club seem to have finally backed a manager (at least last summer and in January) plus they gave Ole time despite having a couple of chances to move on which at those times would have probably been understandable. A club backing a manager is always good to see, but I feel the wrong one has been backed in this instance.

Moving forward I'd say we should be looking to move on Smalling, Jones, Rojo, Lingard, Dalot, Mata, Fred, Ighalo (loan ends), Pereira and one of De Gea or Henderson (whoever is not starting) over the next two summers. We should look to bring in a CB to start alongside Maguire (he's not that much better than Lindelof but he's not getting dropped), a left back to challenge Shaw with Williams moving over to the right to challenge AWB, a defensive midfielder, another creative midfielder, a right winger and a striker.

Obviously not all of the above can be done this summer but a defensive midfielder, a right winger and centre back are the most essential for me.


4.) 17 Aug 2020 17:10:40
after the lockdown, i think Ole's tactics got found out against Southampton and with Luke Shaw injured opposing teams exposed the weakness on the left.

we need left footed players in key positions. i'd personally go all out for Alphonso Davies, but that won't happen right now.

Maguire lacks leadership skills,

LB to give competition to Luke Shaw. Telles? ,
LCB Gabriel, Badiashille?,
CM Saul, Thiago, Rice, VDB
RW Sancho
LW Leon Bailey or Ryan Sessegnon


it takes Ed Woodward and co at least one month to negotiate and sign a player so this will probably take 3 windows.


5.) 17 Aug 2020 17:31:53
we seem to have a load of folk on here and elsewhere media wise (pundits etc., ) who are prioritising a right winger as a summer recruit.
Is it really the case?
Theres no "target man" to feed off crosses, in fact we have very few who are attacking the ball with their heads in the opposing box. Most balls would need to be cut back or slotted through as happens on the left with rashford or martial or bruno.
Greenwood could indeed do the job perfectly well as well as play through the middle if required, with a little coaching as he has oodles of talent and has had a remarkable breakthrough season. Money better off been spent in defense and midfield tbh. Ob viously just my opinion.


6.) 17 Aug 2020 18:24:37
Cooky can our front 3 who have performed well this season of rash Martial and mason play every game? We know that's not possible. 4 top class for 3 spots is ideal James's likely to start close to 40 games james can back the 4 up.
Any combination of sancho martial greenwood snd rashford is strong.
So rw is a huge priority.
Cb is an obvious priority
Dm for me is an obvious priority
Am lb and cf are secondary priorities imo.


7.) 17 Aug 2020 21:54:37
Two decent centre halves priority, a proper pairing who reassure those around them, where the keeper has some idea of how they play and offer some form of protection, who can play the ball out either at pace to the midfield or slow it down and dictate the pace, who the midfield feel confident that they are right behind them and will be competent to deal with threats so they can push up more to join in attack.


8.) 18 Aug 2020 00:00:51
It’s been an inconsistent season with a young team that has improved throughout. We’ve seen the emergence of Greenwood who looks a star in the making and Williams (who for some reason seems to be getting grief but there we go) . Plenty to work with moving forward, but the recruitment is key and the board need to deliver the players the manager wants. Looking at the squad and the injuries we had particularly before Bruno arrived, I think it was a good effort to come 3rd.


9.) 18 Aug 2020 09:08:44
Ken, I don't think 4 for 3 spots is ideal- injuries and form loss aside we could do with more options but another striker would work better imo than a right winger. A rw would make sense if we played 4-4-2 but we don't and that's not going to change.
Priorty must be cb surely? dm again is an area we could look at and forwards but my point is not just the rw but 120 m for a player who is great "in the bundesliga" at the expense of not filling a t least 2/ 3 more needed spots is not good management.
Remember the 89m man last season who many still look to as the saviour- an injury lost his services for over 1/ 2 a season.


 

 

19 Jul 2020 22:14:12
Maguire again today 😂😂😂😂😂😂 get rid.

Get rid of dea gea along with worst player in our squad Dan James. Brutal.


1.) 19 Jul 2020 22:39:59
Get rid of a kid who is not prem level and has been thrown into the deep because we lack a proper squad


Get a grip its 1 loss

Dea gea should be dropped and maguire is still a good defender but we don't have another centre back that suits him and how he plays.


2.) 19 Jul 2020 22:53:39
He is an average defender, and you are right, we don't have a defender (he doesn't exist) capable of mopping up his constant **** ups. De gea is finished, he will never get back to anywhere near his best. Ole has restored a lot of what we are all about, has cleared out a lot crap and the players seem to like him, but we need a much better coach to really kick on.


3.) 19 Jul 2020 23:15:17
Maguire's problem is he's 10 yards out of position and too slow to get back no partner on the planet could cover that. Also he needs to know he's slow and position himself for that but he doesn't this is the main annoyance everyone knows his weaknesses probably even Maguire he just doesn't do anything about it.

We have had 2 days less rest between out last 2 games compared to Chelsea they were bound to be fitter also we've beat them a lot this season they will have been desperate to get us back.

There's no need to stress about the result getting frustrated by it is different it's not the fact we lost its the way we lost that's annoying I don't know what's happened to de gea but being a guaranteed starter can't help he's just too relaxed.

Anyway onto Wednesday and let's hope this result gives them the slap they need to wake up and we get the result against west ham.


4.) 19 Jul 2020 23:19:35
1 loss and ole is on the chopping board again


Embarrassing reading the reactions on this page when we lose.


5.) 19 Jul 2020 23:30:15
Leave James alone. He is a young kid asked to perform like a seasoned player in a team that is still trying to find its identity and rhythm. He is not a bad player Md always tries. It is too early to judge whether he will ever be good enough at the highest level.

He would benefit from having a Robson or Keane figure to help push him to the next level.

And re De Gea. It seems to me that he has lost his focus and a bit of confidence and that's why he makes stupid mistakes. He needs handling by a really good man manager to help him back into form. He is too young to just write off. He also deserves our support for so many years of unbelievable performance i a declining team. He has earned the right to be supported not discarded like yesterday's old newspaper.


6.) 20 Jul 2020 00:33:22
to be fair bolger the last 2 games have been underwhelming. the saints bossed us on our own pitch and palace could of been a 2 0 win to them. today could have been 5 and nobody could complain. when somebody sets up different ole has no idea what to do. we have been on a great run but as ed 47 alluded to the teams we have played. people will say yes but we used to loose to these. people keep on ole got rid of the dedwood but ed 02 said ole has very little say on who comes and goes but a lot are making him the great one. anybodywho has to keep ringing sir alex for advice then we are never oing o be were we whant to be. sir alex time has come and gone. we need a modern thinking manager.


7.) 20 Jul 2020 07:20:19
Salford - a good manager should be able to spot when a player is in decline and De Gea at United is in decline.

Maybe if he had a new challenge somewhere else he would raise his game again but he has been like this for over 6months now. Romero should be given a start v West Ham and we should go from there for the rest of the season.

Maguire - well I don’t know what he is thinking at times. He marked and jumped all over AWB last week taking him out of the game and then yesterday he takes Bailly out when all he has to do is drop 5 yards and sweep around the back.

Bailly losses the header then the ball is picked up by Maguire and we are away. The ball is lost with both Bailly and Maguire out of the game we are f*****d.

He is slow with both his feet and head at times and that is a worry.


8.) 20 Jul 2020 08:29:18
Maguire continues to miss sitters because he can't head straight.

He continues to be out of position and got bosses of giroud and kept fouling him.

He should've left that header for Bailly but injured him.

The lads awful.

I'll say it again. He's no better than Nathan ake, Lewis Dunk etc.

Anyone who says he needs another defender to play alongside him are deluded as the price we paid he should be the one complimenting other defenders whereas he's doing the opposite.

Watch how many times he's out of position and how slow he reacts etc. He's abysmal and we got out pants pulled down by Leicester.

We need henderson back, 2CBs a CM and RW if we are to close gap next season.


9.) 20 Jul 2020 11:45:19
we could have been 4 or 5 up against the saints after we went 2 1 ahead,


and if not for the injuries to both Shaw and Williams i don't think they score that injury time goal

we have 2 finals coming up now the first 1 is wednesday the the crunch game sunday.


 

 

05 Jul 2020 10:57:38
Back on the CB debate.

I honestly think we need 2 top CBs if we want to get to challenging again. This is our weakest part of the squad by far.

Maguire is an average defender of which we wouldn't see no difference if we had Tyrone Mings, Nathan Ake or Lewis Dunk in our team I'd put him in that category. Average CB that can do a decent job. That's all he is.

The amount of goals that's been his fault this season is shocking.

He's decent in air and on ball but everything else he's poor especially his positioning. he's all over the place and gets caught out a lot, That's the reason he looks far better in a back 5 as he has more cover.

Moving up the field.

I think if pogba stays, we've got enough quality in the CM areas. Could be greedy and go for a world class CDM but we know that won't happen.

If we sign Sancho it could be a game changer and with Greenwood being as good with both feet he will get game time in any of the front 3 positions.

Bring Henderson back sell De Gea
Sign 2 CBs
Sign CM if Pogba wants to leave.
Sign Sancho.


1.) 05 Jul 2020 11:11:23
Ah I see it’s Maguire’s turn to be on the end of the wrath of this page, he’s made a couple of mistakes since the restart and now suddenly he’s Tyrone Mings.

Scored 5 for the first time since 2011 yesterday, we look like a team who can score more than they let in and the majority of the time they don’t let any in.


2.) 05 Jul 2020 11:19:41
Very reactionary that on maguire imo. He’s not in Van djik’s class and the fee isn’t his fault. If we paid 40 million people would say he’s been a good signing.


3.) 05 Jul 2020 11:47:33
Maguire is usually ok - good. Makes the odd mistake. Kobially beside him and forget Sancho now Greenwood is showing his worth? Pogba to stay. Slightly worried about De Gea. Add Grealish.


4.) 05 Jul 2020 11:44:15
Gds its always someone's turn .


5.) 05 Jul 2020 11:53:46
You're right GDS2, summed it up there, he's made a couple of mistakes since the restart even though we've only played a handful of games, that in itself is shocking. Let's also ignore how crap he was before lockdown.

It can't be reactionary Coalan if he's been doing this all season though.


6.) 05 Jul 2020 11:55:40
Wilbot - Please evidence all the grievous and shocking mistakes Maguire has made this season. I think he deserves a fair trial before he's consigned into the realms of mediocrity alongside the likes of Tyrone Mings!


7.) 05 Jul 2020 12:08:45
Scholes

I thought he was very good before lockdown, his stats and the teams stats back that up as well to be honest. As said above, people see what they want to see.


8.) 05 Jul 2020 12:55:50
His best period was Christmas till lockdown since and before he was average.

He's not and never will be a top CB.

He's average and always will be, we paid over the odds of which couldve of got the likes of Lewis Dunk who's just as good for more than half that fee.

He backs off players allowing them to run and have space. His positional awareness is awful.

Off the top my head without going back there's games like Norwich although Mctominay lost ball was still poor from Maguire after. 2 goals against Sheff united, one were he allowed mousett to run at him and let him shoot the the mcburnie goal the wasn't at the player and made a poor attempt to block the shot. the goal yesterday and the spurs goal to name a few I could probably rewatch a few and point out more.

The midfield and attack seems to be getting in the right direction but the defence especially the CB position we need two top CBs not to ok cbs.

We all want to win titles and get to the next level and for me Maguire isn't good enough.


9.) 05 Jul 2020 13:06:43
It's not about calling out different players.

It's just moving forward especially in midfield and attack were building something specially and have adequate back up in some areas.

Leicester fans even said Jonny Evans was better than Maguire they've also done better without him. They also mentioned how Chilwell always got him out the trouble countless times over the season.

We need 2 top CBs and a RW to try compete for me.


10.) 05 Jul 2020 13:20:36
Wilbot would you be happy if we signed otamendi gomes lovren stones etc all title winning cbs over the last 2 seasons?


11.) 05 Jul 2020 13:55:34
Maguire's individual mistakes this season DLIB

Hernandez skipped by Maguire with ease to score for Norwich in our 3-1 league win.

His awful clearance led to a corner against Wolves in august which Neves scored from.

Nutmegged yesterday before Stanislas scored

Getting megged by Giroud which led to Kovacic almost scoring at the bridge

Outmuscled for the 2 goals Burnley scored at OT, a game in which we lost.

Partially at fault for the Longstaff goal at OT, but we won 4-1.

Got annihilated by Bergwijn in our 1-1 draw.

This doesn't include the huge mistakes he makes when he's gifted the ball to the opposition when he tries playing out from the back.


12.) 05 Jul 2020 14:01:57
You’re right scholes. Turf him out and get Jones back in there.

{Ed004's Note - Honestly feel what you've done there for Maguire above Scholes can be done for every single player in the squad including Bruno. Every player is going to make mistakes. He's played his first season in a new squad, had to deal with a very inconsistent team for vast majority of the season (Matic out of form, Pogba/Rashford/Martial all missing games with a midfield consisting of Lingard/Andreas for vast majority of it) yet we sit with either 2nd or 3rd best defence in the league. This is all without factoring in our keeper being the reason we conceded about 3 of the 4 or so goals we have conceded in last 10+ games played.

Don't have the time currently to check the stats but feel like on the site there always has to be some player targeted or scapegoated}


13.) 05 Jul 2020 14:28:59
What's the point Coalan when we can just get Smalling back? 😁.

I think that's a fair assessment Ed to be honest, i've just highlighted his major mistakes that led to a goal and not his poor positioning or awol passing. It is what DLIB was asking for aswell. I hope he improves but he's 27 and should be in his prime, hopefully this isn't IT.

{Ed047's Note - I honestly don’t think it’s about stats and who else played, made mistakes or wasn’t in form.

Maguire just isn’t a top top defender, to a degree he shone out at Leicester and yes he has England caps but then so do a lot of players you wouldn’t consider for United.

He’s clearly not absolute rubbish but he’s also not even close to the VVD’s, Laporte’s and Koulibaly’s of this world mate.

I don’t think it’s making a scapegoat of him, it’s just pointing out he really isn’t that great, or even as good as some would like him to be.


14.) 05 Jul 2020 15:09:20
KoulibLys is serious overrated on the site .


15.) 05 Jul 2020 15:56:15
He put the ball out for a corner which they scored from, amazing, heard it all now.

{Ed004's Note - Also have to agree on the Koulibaly point. Hes had some shockers this season which would have resulted in pelters on here.}


16.) 05 Jul 2020 16:05:42
Nobody doubted that 80m was an outragous fee top pay for maguire.
He does get caught out from time to time and has his limitations. I still think he has done ok and as a unit they have done ok.
It could be and needs to be better.
We are attacking more so the defenders will be exposed more.
We are playing a higher line too which can leave defenders exposed.


17.) 05 Jul 2020 14:51:51
It's the typical response if you criticise a player Ed047, i'm making him a 'scapegoat'.

{Ed047's Note - I get that mate but sadly people don’t like to admit one of their own isn’t all that and Maguire simply isn’t all that.

Yes he’s a unit, yes he can head the ball but gets done so easily by quality players.

But if peeps think he can take you to the big trophies well I can only say good luck with that.


18.) 05 Jul 2020 17:08:41
I mentioned it because he completed f'ed up the clear GDS, not because he simply cleared it out for a corner. Funny how that's the only mistake you focus on.


 

 

 

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Fred is better player than McTominay.

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At least means that poor player Mctominay will get less chances.


 

 

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Anyone wanting wanting players like buendia clearly want to step back not step forward.


 

 

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Maguire is awful Eric he wasn't even that good first season.


 

 

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Maguire wasn't much better at Leicester.


 

 

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We've been battered 2 or games in a row very lucky today.

We were rubbish against Luton.

He has no clue. It's not about 2 games it's about being tactically inept and clueless decision making time after time.

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Sancho will prove to be a good window but I'll be surprised if we sign anyone else.