30 Sep 2023 17:25:14
Someone please for the life of me, tell me this can be turned around?

We just look so predictable again, is it fair to keep blaming the players, a lot of the old Ole Guard Rash, Bruno, Shaw have been given new contracts in addition to Ten Hag getting the players he wanted, is it a tactical thing now at this stage and it’s just not working, really just trying to make sense of it tbh.

1.) 30 Sep 2023
30 Sep 2023 17:39:28
ive no idea, i thought we looked very good midweek even if Palace were poor. All I know is for the first time since ETH has been here i'm not going to watch his post match interview -its just depressing .

2.) 30 Sep 2023
30 Sep 2023 17:57:06
We are an average team that sometimes will play good football but we will go back quickly to our "thing". Adding up the injuries. this is going to be a very long season.

3.) 30 Sep 2023
30 Sep 2023 17:59:41
The common denominator here is the players as there are players there that done it before

Like I get with injuries it can have an effect implementing a style of play and a lack of cohesion in playing together can happen as a result, but this has to be last chance for Rashford, lost ball 18 times 1st half, consistently runs into dead ends, and rarely does anything intelligent in the final third unless he has acres of space to run into.

Then you have our captain Bruno and Casemiro (I’m a big fan of both btw) who consistently give the ball away inviting so much unwanted pressure, in addition to poor pedestrian passing all across the pitch.

75% possession 400 mill and still can’t break down a park the bus team. I’m a big advocate for Ten Hag but this is concerning to say the least and he needs to figure this out really quick and start dropping players not performing.

4.) 30 Sep 2023
30 Sep 2023 18:04:26
Of course it can, nothing is fixed and everything changes over time. Its a tough and unpredictable league, look at Wolves beating City today. Probably ruined many a mans accumulator today.

We need a level of calm, we need to be able to get some of our players back fit and play a consistent side. For me the injuries and the issues they cause to a poorly constructed squad full of players with opposing qualities is the main reason our lack of quality and consistency in performances.

I'm not entirely sure what people expect from a tactical perspective they think the manager could do differently.

I've seen the same people complain that the manager both needs to get a consistent style of play AND that he is too stuck in playing "his" way and that he needs to change the style of play.

Obviously both cannot be true, they are arguing both sides of the coin.

My view is that the manager is clearly attempting to impart his style and philosophy on the team. However, he is severely limited because of the personnel he has to work with. That forces him to have to choose between two options when he loses key players to make his ideal style work. He can either play unsuited players and demand they play a style they either cannot play or cannot play it to the level required. Or he can adjust the tactics to suit the players he has available.

He has tended to go with the latter and not the former. Which given the utter shambles and mismatched nature of our squad is probably the lesser of two evils. However, currently with the sheer number of injuries and the constant changing nature of the players he has available; those tactics are probably having to change between training sessions let alone matches. As a player who is fit on the Monday, pulls up injured on the Wednesdays, and the tactics for the game on Saturday now need to change again.

People forget that Pep and Klopp had some very inconsistent performances in their first couple of seasons while they had to rebuild the entire squad to be able to play one consistent style of football at the standard required. Within three summer transfer windows both managers had changed over 20 of their original 25 man squads from taking over as manager.

Its a process, it won't happen over night, there will be bright moments and what appears like backward steps or poor performances.

The choices are to either trust in the process and see it though, or constantly chop and change, rinse and repeat and find ourselves back here in 2 years time as we constantly try and delay the pain needed to grow.

I've not seen anything from EtH that makes me question him.

Not when he made the players do the extra running in training at the start of last season, while also doing the running himself.

Not when he dropped Rashford and Garnacha for a lack of effort in training and held them to high standards.

Not when he stood firm against Ronaldo and stated no player is bigger than the club. Moving him on was the right decision.

Not as he helped rebuild a side from our poorest ever EPL finish and guided us to 3rd in his first season despite numerous set backs during that season (a WC mid-season, several injuries, a mismatched squad, the Ronaldo debacle, having to send Sancho away and the whole Greenwood issue) .

Not when he offered support to Sancho and allowed him time out of the spot light and called in some favours with former colleagues in the Netherlands to try and help Sancho get in the right physical and mental shape.

Not when he lead us to two domestic cup finals winning one of them and bringing silverware back to the club for the first time in 6 years.

And not this season as he's had to deal with the spectre of the club sale and the distraction and disharmony that brings, in the way he has dealt with the clubs awful handling of the Greenwood situation, or the way he has handled the Antony situation. He has stood firm about the need for high standards against Sancho who is throwing all of the managers previous support back in his face. The manager has not got personal and has handled that well.

All this while dealing with a horrific injury crisis that is denying him any real flexibility in terms of viable tactics.

I've seen nothing from him that makes me think he doesn't have a handle on things or that he isn't the right man to have at the helm during this rocky time.

5.) 30 Sep 2023
30 Sep 2023 18:14:41
I have to say for the 1st time I'm starting to question some of his team selections. There was no need for amrabat to be left back, dalot could play there, lindelof right back, maguire and varane in the middle.
What mount has done to be starting games is beyond me, surely mejbri has to keep his place, amrabat, casemiro and mejbri should have started imo.
Pellistri has done ok but my front 3 would have been rashford, hojland and fernandez.
The decision that baffled me most was definitely leaving mejbri out, no energy in midfield again especially 1st half. Like another poster pointed out, we're so predictable in attack, I don't like to question the manager to much as he knows the players, but doubts are starting to arise.

6.) 30 Sep 2023
30 Sep 2023 18:31:09
Shappy i'm 100% behind ETH but if I was about to drop 5 billion plus on buying the club and still had a shed load of money left over to
'put the team back where they belong' ( to paraphrase both the Sheikh and SJR) I might not have the same outlook. i'm sure ETH will be aware of that.

7.) 30 Sep 2023
30 Sep 2023 18:55:49
ETH causes many of his own problems, he not at elite coach level by a long way.
Causes too much disharmony in the dressing room, you can play really well one game then get dropped the next that’s causes problems, there seems to be a lack of direction, players unhappy, he had what 18 months now and bought quite a few and we still a shambles of a team the players he bought are just not good enough, so can’t keep hiding behind the fact takes time, should at least be seeing some improvement.
Shappy anyone think you were employed by the club given the excuses you come up with, same as you don’t for Ole, look at that turned out.
It’s a shambles of a team, shambles of tactical play and too much talking coming from the manager, instead of doing the job.
You harp on about the run he made them do, our school teacher used to do that he also used to make us wear our pants if we forgot our kit, grow up these are professional footballers, they need a direction and have some respect, how can you have respect for someone who appears very two faced, he prised De Gea, bombed him, in the week he praised Garnacho he scored he dropped him, he praised Martial he dropped him, replaced him with supposedly our best two strikers Rashford And Rasmus who scored how many between them this season.
Time to wake up and smell the coffee, it’s not good enough and won’t ever be.

8.) 30 Sep 2023
30 Sep 2023 19:14:32
A large amount of the "personnel" he has brought to the club are not that good in my opinion. Shaw coming back will be a help I guess, but Malacia, Antony, Reguillon are not going to fix anything. I am behind ETH but with these results and more so, the displays, why should he be above questioning.

9.) 30 Sep 2023
30 Sep 2023 19:34:31
If a deal can be done for new owners of the club ETH is down the road anyway, players know that, he not got a cat in hells chance of keeping the job if new owners come in, he will be lucky to make Christmas if new owners don’t even come in.
He seems to make it’s his mission to upset as many people as possible
Then all he does is come on TV after and tell everyone the players are not following the instructions it’s a process they must follow…
What was the term LV Gall used all the time, something similar I recall
Even the players he not upset are friends of the ones he does, he then expects them to repay him.
He is used to managing kids in a inferior league this job too big for him
Ronald de Boer exactly the same, talk a good game that don’t translate to the EPL.

10.) 30 Sep 2023
30 Sep 2023 19:37:04
Of I was dropping 6 billion or whatever on the club the first thing I would be doing is getting the best Sporting director I could find and telling him to sort my club out!

11.) 30 Sep 2023
30 Sep 2023 19:44:07
Shappy, I have no idea what his style is or his ideas are. I wanted ETH, he did a great job last year, but this year I am not sure why we are so poor.

As I have said previously, the club is rotten from within, huge cultural changes needed to make us a professional outfit. I suspect there are serious issues still to be addressed.

12.) 30 Sep 2023
30 Sep 2023 19:45:02
Out of all he purchased who is going to win you EPL, maybe Dutch league.
It’s nowhere near good enough, ok though he had a team BBQ this week, Palace we’re clearly training…. he is really clutching at straws, maybe that’s the level in Dutch league a free sausage and all be OK, out of his depth sadly…
poor team, poor leader, poor coaching poor tactics.

13.) 30 Sep 2023
30 Sep 2023 19:47:08
Spot on Oakbark. New owners and a new SP would be grilling ETH hours after getting the keys.

14.) 30 Sep 2023
30 Sep 2023 20:02:17
They would be paying ETH off and all the coaching staff before the keys are handed over, he is showing he out of his depth, some defended the indefensible with Ole, they are at it again with ETH, based on what a Cup that to be fair we struggled to win anyway the facts are we lost more then we won this season, we got a goalkeeper who can kick though and pick the ball out the net!
Worst start in 30 odd years. Bookies favourite for chop. Half players don’t like him
The other half are friends of ones that don’t like him.

15.) 30 Sep 2023
30 Sep 2023 20:51:50
He's toast strangeways. you can't be this awful and stay in the job. he's caused so much in house damage its untrue, a lot not his fault but fook me the football on show is horrible, slow, boring etc etc. and today supporters around me in the stands are turning. Basically we've had enough.

16.) 30 Sep 2023
30 Sep 2023 20:57:11
To win a match, Manchester United, like any other football team, typically needs a combination of factors:

1. Team Strategy: A well-thought-out game plan, which includes tactics, formations, and strategies, tailored to the opponent they are facing.

2. Skillful Players: Skilled and in-form players who can perform effectively in their respective positions, including strikers who can score goals and defenders who can prevent the opponent from scoring.

3. Teamwork: Effective communication and teamwork among players to coordinate their movements, passing, and positioning on the field.

4. Defense: A strong defense to prevent the opponent from scoring goals. This includes solid goalkeeping and organized defending.

5. Midfield Control: Dominance in midfield to control possession, create scoring opportunities, and dictate the pace of the game.

6. Set Pieces: Being proficient in set pieces (corners, free-kicks) to capitalize on scoring opportunities.

7. Adaptability: The ability to adapt to the opponent's strategies during the game and make necessary changes.

8. Motivation: High morale and motivation among players can make a significant difference in their performance.

9. Supportive Fans: Support from the fans at the stadium can boost the team's morale and create a positive atmosphere.

10. Avoiding Mistakes: Minimizing errors, such as defensive lapses or missed chances, that can cost the team goals.

Ultimately, winning a match in football is a complex interplay of various factors, and success often depends on the specific circumstances and the quality of the opposition.

17.) 30 Sep 2023
30 Sep 2023 21:39:04
Some of these posts are hilarious. Strangeways is Maze, Trafford etc I assume back for another go, new poster that knows every man and his dog’s opinions on Ole.

I know we get overreactions when we lose a game and it’s not been a great start but there are some quite obvious reasons why that is the case and I don’t think many of them are the manager. He’s not suddenly out of his depth and we can’t just keep sacking managers, every time we get into the champions league we struggle the following season as once we get top 4 we suddenly don’t have money to spend, have a terrible summer and struggle. We need new owners not a new manager.

18.) 01 Oct 2023
01 Oct 2023 14:21:18
New owners if they bring in a new a new CEO and new Sporting director. ETah stays only if he fits the with sporting director.

I would bring in Overmars but would disable the camera on his job phone.