22 Jun 2025 13:36:30
Shappy has written an article entitled, How Much Can Manchester United Sell The Player For?
23 Jun 2025 03:11:37
Aren't some of the details incorrect in this overview?
As an example you mention a 7m profit for one player, returns a 7m injection into the transfer kitty. That would be true if we were buying a player on a one year contract and outright, but aren't there accountancy trickeries at play when it comes to new players over the length of their contract, for instance, you could buy a player for say 35m on a 5yr contract with that 7m.
If someone has the details of this to add for clarity it would be greatly appreciated!
23 Jun 2025 12:59:11
Jimbo, the trickery you are refering to is the amount the club has to spend during that financial year and the amount that is amortised.
7m profit is still 7m.
Now if we buy a player for 35m on a fiver year deal then that amortises as 7m a season.
So in theory a 7m profit could accommodate the club buying a 35m players. Yet the reality is that the whole 35m will need to be paid at some point.
The subsequent 28m that goes out at 7m each summer has to come from somewhere and could limit future spending.
Likewise while a fee might be amortised over the length of a contract, the actual amount the club have to spend might be different.
That 35m fee might be amortised at 7m a year over the five years of the contract. But the club will likely have to pay more than 7m upfront to the selling club. If we have to pay 20m of the fee up front with the rest in installments over the next couple of years then it becomes a cashflow issue. We might have got the whole 7m in from the club we sold a player to. But if we have to pay 20m this year to the club we are buying the replacement from then we will need to find an extra 13m in cash to pay for it.
23 Jun 2025 14:02:52
Thisnis an incomplete overview in some ways Shappy. We already have £43m in additional revenues from cost cutting measures.
We also have wage reductions to our players salaries, having seen Ericsen, Lindelof and Evans leave, which gives another £15m freedom up per year. So that's £50m plus in cashflow.
Getting Rashford and Sancho off the books saves £30m a year in wages, there is plenty of interesting both, and whatever their posturing, their egos will be aware uts a world cup year next year so they will be biting the bullet and lowering their demands without united being over a barrel to make up the difference, which has been their agents play thus far. But United aren't going to be mugged off any longer they claim.
Same applies to Garnacho although his much lesser wages make it easier to move him anywhere else anyway.
But the point about looking at Rashford and Sanchonis that you cana actually afford a world class star to come in with that £30m, perhaps a £65 to £70m fee amortised to around £13 to £14m a year on a 5 year deal, and wages of upto £200k a week (u likely, United now won't go above £7m a year basic and the rest in add ons and bonuses for appearances and goals or wins bonuses. So, that makes a total of £21 to £24m a year leaving headroom and bringing in a new player.
Finally, Radcliffe was cute with his comments, because he's laid it out as a United problem, and its not, its how football finance works. So, by claiming we are cash strapped we can start to put to bed lowball offers for our players and also ensure that we don't overpay either.
The players he mentioned are of course ones surplus to our requirements, or a little more challenging to sell. But that's thansk the rank amateurs who were in charge of recruitment and finance. Farcical and years of neglectful operating models.
Plus Garnacho and Rashford are not going to be sold for the pittance you claim. I don't see those two leaving for any less than £90m between tbem and far more likely above £100m once the window is in full swing. Nothing has started yet in earnest. Mid July will see a lot of action. I doubt much happens until then, and it will be much clearer picture in a month from now where we really stand.
23 Jun 2025 19:48:27
Shappy in your example you have plucked 20m from the skies. It could conceivably be 5 equal payments of 7m, and that has equally been plucked from the sky.
Yes I appreciate the balance of say 28m will need to be found elsewhere in time, but your initial essay suggests if we sell a player for 7m profit, we are limited to a 7m purchase, which is horse.
23 Jun 2025 21:14:15
Captain obvious the only club that had a strong interest in Rashford was Villa, and with them missing out on CL footy and their high wage bill they cannot afford him anymore. Barcelona has some minor interest in him but also has an issue with wages and it looks like they’re getting N. Williams. Real, PSG and Bayern have no need for him which pretty much only leaves Italy and they’re all pretty much broke.
Most of the above could also be applied to Garnacho although he will likely have lower wage demands than Rashford which would work in his favour. Napoli have the strongest interest in Garnacho but like all Italian teams will likely not pay more than £50m max especially when you consider they sold kvaratskhelia for £60m.