05 Sep 2023 06:12:41
Here we go again, this one has been in the offing for a while, so should we suspend Antony now Brazil have?

1.) 05 Sep 2023
05 Sep 2023 07:16:50
Can see it happening. He will also be arrested if he goes back to Brazil apparently. not a good look.

Anthony on the run . -insert your own joke here.

2.) 05 Sep 2023
05 Sep 2023 07:22:39
Suspend? His actions are abhorrent, irrespective of his call of innocence on social media. Get rid.
Manchester United don't permit criminals, innocent or otherwise.
A precedent has been set.
If he doesn't go, then that break clause in Mason's loan contract looks like a great move.

3.) 05 Sep 2023
05 Sep 2023 07:35:37
Surely we have to the same as we did with MG, suspend and do investigation.

4.) 05 Sep 2023
05 Sep 2023 07:40:53
That will depend on what happened if anything and how much media/ celebrity attention it is given.

In this case the media teams of the celebs are warning them to be careful as the Police are investigating it prior to them being able to share their opinions and therefore they run the risk of being held in contempt of court.

5.) 05 Sep 2023
05 Sep 2023 07:56:16
The difference here is Antony has come out with his own statement to flat out deny the allegations.

Try not to put his and MG’s case together. The two are totally separate.

I’m not defending Antony but I always think it speaks volumes when the player flat out refuses the allegations. He’s also said he’s in contact with Brazilian authorities and cooperating, so where has the arrest rumour come from?

6.) 05 Sep 2023
05 Sep 2023 08:23:37
These allegations have been hanging over his head for a while now. Will be interesting to see if the club’s stance remains consistent or whether he gets a pass because he’s a Ten Haag player.

Charges were dropped against Greenwood and the club’s own investigation apparently found him to be innocent, yet he was still moved on, so things aren’t looking good for Antony.

7.) 05 Sep 2023
05 Sep 2023 08:24:26
Wasn’t he in England when the “allegations” were suppost to have taken place.

8.) 05 Sep 2023
05 Sep 2023 08:47:14
One of the alleged assaults is supposed to have taken place in a Manchester hotel room. His former partner reportedly required medical treatment after two of the incidents, so it should be fairly easy to prove (or disprove) the allegations.

9.) 05 Sep 2023
05 Sep 2023 09:19:59
To me as things stand I think it is different due to no public evidence. Mg was called innocent but let's be honest and say this call from the club press release was more because legally he has not been found guilty of anything than him being innocent (seeing the video) .

Currently Antony disputes the charge so he could be innocent and there is nothing in my mind to state what is true either way at this point. No doubt any self respecting hr department would talk to the player about this and investigate but do not see why they would suspend at this point as the reputational damage or risk is different.

I don't think the fact he is a eth signing would have any bearing on how it is handled.

10.) 05 Sep 2023
05 Sep 2023 09:49:48
Without evidence against him, the club should not be playing the role of judge. That's the role of the courts. The Greenwood case was unique in that there was evidence in the public. As others have said Antony is disputing the charge, so it's a matter then for the courts. If he gets charged then the club have a decision to make on whether to temporarily suspend him pending the outcome, but there's no decision before then imo. Also @bookredmole there is no hope in hell a HR department should or would want to interfere in a criminal investigation by conducting their own. The one thing United did correctly in the MG case was to do their investigation after the criminal one was dropped.

11.) 05 Sep 2023
05 Sep 2023 10:30:04
Greenwood would be back playing for the club now if people hadn't heard the recording, he isn't not playing for the club because he was accused of something, he isn't playing because of the fan backlash. If someone has a video or recording of Antony doing something then he will be suspended, until then it is her word against his and nothing like the same situation.

12.) 05 Sep 2023
05 Sep 2023 10:46:54
Before we condemn someone let's wait and see if there are any facts supporting the story. With the current cancel culture its seems easy to ruin someone's life even before anything is proven or substantiated.

The idea that it happened in Manchester and he is wanted in Brazil is a bit farcical. If there are any facts to this I would think there are jurisdictions and hard to imagine how it can be litigated in Brazil.

13.) 05 Sep 2023
05 Sep 2023 11:04:21
I think Antony’s fate ultimately lies in Rachel Riley’s hands.

14.) 05 Sep 2023
05 Sep 2023 11:16:28
From what I read, it appears that there are allegations of multiple instances, both in the UK and in Brazil. The UK police are also investigating, but it sounds like the Brazilian police are taking the matter more seriously. Perhaps because they are both Brazilian nationals, or it could be that she didn’t report the alleged abuse until after they broke up and she returned back to Brazil.

I guess we’ll never be privy to all of the details. Let’s hope the allegations prove to be false, though I’m not sure what she’d have to gain by lying.

15.) 05 Sep 2023
05 Sep 2023 16:41:58
It’s a separate/ another/ alledged incident issue the one in Brazil, clearly enough in that one to suspend him too… Countdown is on for Rachel Riley to pipe up with a vowel or two.

Does this club even look into all and sundry of there personal life’s anymore, was common knowledge, Sancho had timekeeping and attitude problems at Dortmund, yet we still bought him, Don’t sound like the Antony thing is a one off either, did no one not pick up on this earlier, been known for what 2-3 years, surely you can tell a wrong un!

Same with Greenwood, attitude been bought into question many times allegedly, even with England as we all see, either other clubs got much better people installed to keep all this in house, or all the wrong uns, head for united!

It’s a mess that’s for sure if Antony now goes the wrong way, with Greenwood value had been say 80mil, Antony 80Mil Sancho 75Mil best part of quarter of a billion smackers gone west! Bet Glazers are happy about that!

16.) 05 Sep 2023
05 Sep 2023 16:44:22
Welp. Images of her injuries are now starting to circulate online. Not quite as damming as the Greenwood material, but it doesn’t look good. Worse still, unlike Greenwood’s partner, it appears as though Antony’s ex intends to press charges.

I’m guessing the club are regretting getting rid of Greenwood now, as it kinda forces their hand with Antony. That said, if there’s any kind of truth to this then that might not be such a bad thing.