21 Nov 2023 06:29:32
Rumour is we are planning to replace DOF John Murtough as part of significant changes when Ratcliffe invests, good, very good in fact. I suggest they also look at Darren Fletchers position as well.

1.) 21 Nov 2023
21 Nov 2023 12:16:10
Red man, agreed.

Too long, we have had people in positions who do not have the level of experience to run this club.

Arnold, Murtaugh, Fletcher. 1 gone, 2 to go. Only then will we start to see real change.

2.) 21 Nov 2023
21 Nov 2023 12:21:41
Think all “leadership” group will be replaced as new owners reset the structure (or lack of) .

New leadership spine of:

Owner/ chairman: SJR/ SJBrailsford

CEO: Jean Claude Blanc (apparently amazing at what he does)

DoF: Paul Mitchell (hopefully)

All pulling in the same direction - and bringing in experiences learnt with Nice - should really get United going in the right direction pretty quickly.

No idea what Darren Fletcher does.

3.) 21 Nov 2023
21 Nov 2023 12:38:29
Fletcher is supposed to be a bridge for academy to first team in terms of support and recommending players to move up. I think. Could be very wrong.

4.) 21 Nov 2023
21 Nov 2023 13:07:25
Caolin

His title is technical director, on what basis was he given that role. Technical and Fletcher don’t seem to match to me.

5.) 21 Nov 2023
21 Nov 2023 13:50:19
I would expect they will review the whole structure if it has not already been done as part of the due dilligance. It could be that the role that people have like Fletcher just does not exist in the new structure and potentially new roles created.
With Arnold confirmed gone and Murtaugh certain to follow there will be a new direction, hopefully it will lead us in the right direction for the future.

6.) 21 Nov 2023
21 Nov 2023 14:22:19
I don't know much about Jean-Claude Blanc but I read a few reports on him and he seems highly thought of and when he moved to Juventus during the period they were relegated, he focused on rebuilding the team and technical staff so I'd imagine he will, if he comes in, will look to shake a few things up.

7.) 21 Nov 2023
21 Nov 2023 18:20:08
If its Mitchell, then it's up to him to decide on who and what jobs he needs. If he sees Fletcher has sufficient abilities to fulfill a role in his team then he should keep him. If he doesn't then he must go.

Personally I have no idea what he does, wasn't Micky Butt promoted from the academy head to do that role previous, I rather fancy it's a bollox job for Fergies old boys.

8.) 22 Nov 2023
22 Nov 2023 03:04:07
And yet, Joel glazer and the glazer family still control the club. Maybe they will want to keep Murtough as their guy on the inside? Seems highly unlikely that the full structure of the club is completely designed by SJR. In fact it seem optimistic at best that he can get full control of the football side. How long until they clash on an issue? Seems like we will have a very odd structure for a business.

9.) 22 Nov 2023
22 Nov 2023 06:24:02
Dodgy

Hence the points I made regularly about the Glazers still having control, for me to be then hounded by the usual suspects for saying it. I suspect that Rat may want changes but the Glazers have diffferent objectives, like with Martial, they may want their favourites, particularly those who looked after them to stay in place. A 100% buyout was what we needed. We shall see what the leeches allow.

10.) 22 Nov 2023
22 Nov 2023 08:32:58
Murtough has no plans to go according to the Guardian.

11.) 22 Nov 2023
22 Nov 2023 09:31:21
Murtough and Arnold improved on what we had but ultimately neither appears equipped to rebuild the club. Had they come in at a time when structures at the club were right then things may have worked out better for them, but we need experts in those roles now. However I won't be lumping them in with Ed Woodward who had far more to do with the current state.

12.) 22 Nov 2023
22 Nov 2023 09:56:03
Patrick

I can bet he doesn’t but if leeches want him to stay and Rat wants him to leave, who wins? Leeches still have control and there may be a few situations like that.

13.) 22 Nov 2023
22 Nov 2023 09:56:32
Lots of conflicting info being briefed out of United as leaders who have failed in their responsibilities scramble to pass on the blame and save their careers.

Expect Blanc and Mitchell with install a new leadership team and structure and either move on existing staff or ease them into alternative positions (ie move Murtough back to looking after the youth team where he did well before being hopelessly promoted out of his depth. )

14.) 22 Nov 2023
22 Nov 2023 22:01:56
We have seen many false dawns at United over the last 10 years, this could be another one.

15.) 23 Nov 2023
23 Nov 2023 23:11:44
Nothing will change imo, glazers and sjr will fall out by the summer, old trafford will still be falling apart and we will keep falling further back from the top teams. You can roll a turd in glitter but it's still a turd and that's our situation.

16.) 24 Nov 2023
24 Nov 2023 09:15:28
Sad to see how many people have had all the hope kicked out of them.

I don't expect to see massive changes instantly, I expect we'll see some big changes behind the scenes, but that it'll take time to filter down and we start seeing the results.

For example let's say we change the DoF to someone like Paul Mitchell by the end of the year. He will change recruitment, but we won't see the benefits of that probably until the summer after next. If he decides the scouting set and player recruitment team needs ripping up and starting again, that'll easily take him until next summer to just get the right people and the correct set up. That won't give them enough time to be in place and have a well scouted selection of targets for the summer. So the benefits of those changes won't be seen until summer 2025, when they've had a year to be in place and do their job.

The problem is that many fans will see a new DoF join in December, and then judge them on any January signings we make. People expect instant change/ success.

I don't think the Glazers and SJR will fall out for two reasons. Firstly, I trust SJR to have the savvy to work with people without falling out.
Secondly, I think the root of our problems with the Glazers comes from their apathy towards the club. They aren't micromanaging the club, refusing to give over any control to anyone else. The problem isn't oversteer it's that they have taken their hands off the wheel for the most part.

So I don't believe the two parties will fall out, ones savvy and the other doesn't care enough. I think they will probably work pretty well together.

Both want the club to be successful, as it increases the value on their investment. The difference is one has experience of running a club and know what is required, while the others have no idea despite owning a club for 18 years. The Glazers have always given over running the club to other people accepting they didn't know what to do (while probably not wanting to either) . The problem is they handed over the running of the club to people who didn't know what they were doing either.

From the Glazers perspective this deal is fantastic. They sell 25% and get a nice pay off, while still keeping the majority. The person buying in will then assume control of the running of the club (something the Glazers have never wanted to do anyway) . They will take the responsibility of sacking/ moving on those who've done a poor job at the club.
If they do a good job then the Glazers asset will increase in value, if it doesn't work out then SJR will take the stick from the fans rather than the Glazers.

I see absolutely nothing there that the Glazers will be unhappy about.

While SJR will aim to own the majority of the club down the line, and will no doubt have a plan for how that will happen. In the meantime he will want to get the club back on track. If he can be the one to get the club back to where it belongs he will secure a legacy at his boyhood club. While also increasing the value of his investment.

This should be a good move for Manchester United, it won't be instant, and it's a long road back. But we appear to be going in the right direction at last.