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16 Apr 2017 12:40:10
Looks like we've been linked to Barkley again in some papers, please no, we've already got better players in that position and could spend money else where.

Smooth

{Ed004's Note - I don't see us signing Barkley this summer. Would prefer someone like Isco for his role anyways}


1.) 16 Apr 2017 14:34:16
Agreed Ed, Barkley has flattered to deceive seemed to have loads of potential but his progress, like many others, has stalled. Would have loved us to sign Isco a couple of seasons ago but again hasn't progressed as much as I expected.

{Ed004's Note - I think Isco is ready to take the final next step. He has all the attributes to be a world class player however, I reckon Mkhitarian will be playing as our number 10 next season anyways}


2.) 16 Apr 2017 18:51:01
Would be harsh to drop Miki, he's done well and Mata and Pereira as back up its not a position we need to strengthen, plenty of other positions do need strengthening. But, if there's a chance to sign a player of that quality can you afford to pass it up?

{Ed004's Note - I don't think you can say no. However, it's a squad game and they will get plenty of game time}


3.) 16 Apr 2017 18:27:07
I think, RM will definitely sell Rodriguez and maybe even another (Morata) and push Cristiano centrally, and maybe Isco gets his chance. Long shot though 😂.


4.) 16 Apr 2017 23:27:21
Barkley is decent but more of a 3 or 4 choice option for us, I would pick other players before him.


 

 

 

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10 Aug 2018 10:08:32
Just read ( don't know how true it is) that jose has to avoid spending vast amounts on older players for the quick fix and the club are willing to back him with money for young talent that we can get more than a few years from, got to admit if the club are going to spend 60 mill+ on a player I'd like to see him here for the long term, also he has to use some of the good young players already at the club,
Even though I've been frustrated this window i agree with the club.

Smooth

1.) 10 Aug 2018 10:31:51
I agree that I prefer this strategy but then why bother getting Mourinho in the first place considering this is obviously his method (though I'd say more experienced instead of older) . Lots of people singing from different hymn sheets at Old Trafford unfortunately.


2.) 10 Aug 2018 10:41:30
Just spin.

Ed002 has told us that the club were happy to sell both Pogba and Martial if their valuation was met. The club is reluctant to pay big sums for older players because they have no resale value. However, they know that Jose prefers to work with older players, and they extended his contract, but didn’t back him this summer.

Bottom line is that there’s no point extending a manager’s contract if you have fundamental differences over the direction of the club. The club are trying to save face after a window where they didn’t back the manager, and failed to bring in any alternative targets. The Godin thing yesterday shows that Woodward still doesn’t realise when he’s been used as leverage in contract negotiations. The club failed to sell players that they made available, and failed to bring in targets the manager requested. This is on them.


3.) 10 Aug 2018 10:53:16
Every player Danny has a price if they want to leave.

The club pricing them out of a move could suggest fractions within United want them to stay and would prefer Jose to go.

Maybe United are holding onto them and considering a Jose exit strategy at some point. Maybe when a manager who they want is available IDK?

Don't get me wrong we know what our owners are like, however it's no secret MU want players under 27 and will only pay for expensive players that either sell merchandise or have a good two five year contracts left in them.


4.) 10 Aug 2018 11:18:36
Ed002 has stated that the club offered Pogba to 4 clubs. But none were willing to meet the price. Both players want to leave. There’s no guarantee that they’ll be happy to stay if Jose leaves. Pogba, in particular, has been looking for a move to Spain since before we signed him.

I don’t buy what is being reported in the slightest. Jose is responsible for what we see on the pitch, which has been fairly poor. But the club are responsible for transfers. They’re trying to pass the buck to Jose to cover their own ineptitude in the transfer market.


5.) 10 Aug 2018 13:05:27
It's obvious that both Pogba and Martial want to leave, and that the club will facilitate that move on the basis that the club doesn't lose out financially.

However, I wonder the reason behind Pogba and Martial wanting out?

Are they unhappy living in Manchester?

Do they have ambition to win things and don't feel they will at our club?

Are they unhappy with the current management set up and feel they need to a different manager to get the best out of them?

Because depending on why they want to leave their are measures the club can take to make them happy.


6.) 10 Aug 2018 13:12:16
I think Pogba wants a move to one of Spain’s big two, as he did before he arrived. Martial might be convinced to stay under a different manager. But at that point you’re talking about allowing two fairly inconsistent players dictate club strategy.


 

 

17 Jun 2018 13:51:37
Just watching Serbia game and that Savic is some player from what I've seen so for, I've read in papers that we've agreed to sign him but have to sell Pogba first, I'd take that but I'm greedy I'd like them both 😁.

Smooth

1.) 17 Jun 2018 14:00:55
He looks good I’m a big fan. Think he will go on to be one of the best midfielders in the world. Someone commented that he’s ‘built like a nfl player with the feet of a ballerina’. Can’t argue with that really. Rumours are Juve are close to agreeing a deal and I would be pretty gutted if true. Would prefer him to Verratti whose a bit overrated for me. But would still welcome the signing of Verratti.


2.) 17 Jun 2018 14:18:45
Totally disagree. I've been watching and he's not influenced the game at all. He seems bulky and no pace. We have enough of these in our team.
I haven't seen anything in him to get me off the edge if my seat.

{Ed004's Note - I don't see how him and Pogba would play together successfully. I'd also rather stick with Pogba}


3.) 17 Jun 2018 14:28:05
Totally agree Ed. Pogba has it all and is twice the player Savic is. We just need to bring it out of him. Thought commentators were harsh on him in the last match.


4.) 17 Jun 2018 14:34:15
And in the last 10 mins, he's been diabolical. We need fast, technically gifted players. Not more lumps like we already have.
Got to say, its been a poor match and Costa Rica have been disappointing.


5.) 17 Jun 2018 14:49:38
Couldn’t disagree more AAA. Think savic is very nimble for a big man and has been the standout player on the pitch. Not been a particularly riveting game but he has stood out. I would tend to agree that not hundred percent sure how him and pogba would fit. I agree that commentators were harsh on pogba last game. Pogba does seem to be the scapegoat for a lot of the so called ‘pundits’.


6.) 17 Jun 2018 16:34:50
Don’t see why we should ship out our way midfielder in pogba. Get the best out of him by providing a good base behind him aka Fred and Matic with maybe TFM as back up? . Fellaini looks likely to leave to which is sad but if he stays we don’t need any more midfielders if Pereirra can also step up.


7.) 18 Jun 2018 12:55:57
Agreed Eric. Would rather we went for Isco veratti or Thiago instead of Savic. I didn't see anything he did that completely blew me. He's big and strong and jogs around, a bit like the other midfielders we've got. Pogba is twice the player.
Worryingly, he got dispossessed at least 5 times as he needed time to control the ball and play around. He'll not get half of that time in the PL. He'll be a disaster.


 

 

06 May 2018 20:08:07
Congratulations Cardiff on promotion, WORNOCK he's marmite but the prems going to be more interesting next season, personally i love him but then again I'm a townie ( from Sheffield)

Smooth

1.) 07 May 2018 11:16:03
Can't stand the bloke or the "style" of football he promotes. Nothing against Cardiff, happy for the fans but having a brutalist like Warnock back in the Premiership makes my heart sink a little bit. Still, he might not be the manager come the start of next season. You never know with football.
I'm gutted for Fulham, they fluffed their lines big time yesterday. Really hope they can get through the play offs. Got a sneaky feeling it will be Boro though, which would be ironic with Stoke and probably WBA going down. Not a Pulis fan either.


2.) 07 May 2018 14:11:49
Once brought a car from there it had to go back 5 times before it was right.


 

 

16 Apr 2018 16:01:32
Followed utd since early 70,s so it's not been all glory for me but the sad thing for me about yesterday's performance/ result was that I've got to the stage where i expect and except it, sad days and I'll always support utd but it could be a long way back 😢.

Smooth

1.) 16 Apr 2018 17:27:41
2nd in league. Long way back 😂.


2.) 16 Apr 2018 18:19:26
16 points behind 1st and beaten by a team that had a whopping 3 wins until yesterday at home.


3.) 16 Apr 2018 18:39:37
Smooth this team is as likely to beat Liverpool or cheddar as they are to lose to west Brom.
Im with you in terms of what i actually expect. Which is players blowing hot and cold.
No manager would have our squad higher than 2nd this season.


4.) 16 Apr 2018 18:58:43
Wonder if inconsistent players will be the excuse next season. Honestly do not understand why being 2nd in the league is an over-achievement.


5.) 16 Apr 2018 19:00:12
Agrred ken and I’m not convinced we will finish 2nd, this is how they’ve got my expectations I’ll be chuffed that we finish top 4 ( god i sound like a arsenal fan)


6.) 16 Apr 2018 19:03:41
I don't accept it. It was woeful. Next season results like them will be unacceptable, except if we are 20 points clear.


 

 

19 Mar 2018 15:44:27
I've no problem with jose berating players but believe it should be done in house and think he should except some of the blame after all he picks the team and decides the tactics, its turning into the jose show and making himself and the club look bad, if you were a top player and saw what was happening would you sign for Utd.

Smooth

1.) 19 Mar 2018 16:06:29
i don't see the problem with it, if you can quite happily take home 500k a week, i'm sure you can handle a bit of a roasting when your not performing.

managers are the ones that take all the stick, about time the players take some as well.


2.) 19 Mar 2018 16:28:32
Players take plenty of stick, and I'm not sure how earning more money somehow makes you better equipped mentally and emotionally to being publicly ridiculed.

However, all managers have a duty of care to those they manage. That duty of care extends beyond just physical well being to mental and emotional as well. That is why I feel it isn't acceptable for a manager to repeatedly publicly ridicule a player. It amounts to emotional bullying, if ever it got to an employment tribunal the manager would have some serious questions to answer and in all other forms of employment would probably lose his job.

What kind of world do we live in where we feel the only way to motivate someone is to bully them?


3.) 19 Mar 2018 16:57:20
i wouldn't say its bullying. he's trying to get the player to wake up and for fill his potential.

what does he want a cuddle and a shoulder to cry on.

you just have to look at shaw to see he's not professional one bit, the guys over weight, looks sluggish and slow.

and i'm sure he's had more than one in house conversation, this might be the last way of waking him up.


hes been praised publicly too on more than one occation that's not worked.

its a shame because pre injury he was looking TOP.


4.) 19 Mar 2018 17:26:33
Bolger, Rooney was the same shape his whole career. Do you think Jose would have treated a 27 year old Rooney in the same manner he has treated Shaw?

And publicly ridiculing and humiliating a person is bullying.


5.) 19 Mar 2018 17:38:24
he wasn't at the same age Shaw is now,

and Rooney performed season after season in that shape.


6.) 19 Mar 2018 17:56:47
Maybe he's tried in house and its failed. He's tried praising him. That's not worked. The guys attitude by all accounts is not right. He can't keep blaming the injury. If it is bullying then that's wrong. But if he's tried everything else and nothings worked then what can he do. We've only seen the public stuff.


7.) 19 Mar 2018 18:02:51
We have plenty of players who under perform, but only a handful of players get publicly blasted by Jose. Shaw, however, is the only player to get persistent public shamings from him.

A few months back Jose claimed that Shaw was on track to be one of the best lbs in the world. He then immediately dropped him for an aging former winger, and when he did give him another chance, he subbed him at half time to make a point to the rest of the squad.

It’s no surprise that Jose was furious that Shaw demanded huge wages scuppering his move to Chelsea. Whatever the failings with Shaw’s attitude, physique, etc, he hasn’t warranted the level of public criticism Jose has unloaded over the last two years. It’s certainly not the right way to get a young lad playing to his potential.


8.) 19 Mar 2018 18:38:28
I think jm treating Shaw the way he is is bullying. It's not taking him off on games, it's the fact that he singles him out for critism at every oportunity. At the end of the day how would you see it if your boss done this to you at your work? Yeah it's true that he earns a lot of money but the money is irrelevant. He is still a young man who has feelings and I think the injury he sustained with us in the European game has affected him mentally and this is not helping him at all. Jose seemed to make a bee line for him as soon as he came in and it's got progressively worse. I personally think Jm needs to go for this behaviour. it's not acceptable in any work place, I know I'd be given my marching orders If I treated a member of my team at work like this.


9.) 19 Mar 2018 21:03:43
Comparing Shaw to Rooney; one a legend of our club and top scorer, the other a semi professional over weight and unprofessional defender is most ridiculous.


10.) 19 Mar 2018 21:23:26
Mort - if Shaw's attitude is not right, he isn't listening and doing the things that are asked of him plus he also looks overweight and not fully fit then my main concern is with José and not Shaw.
With all of the above why would José let him anywhere near the squad, let alone the team? There are plenty of other options to cover Young being rested.
As for Shaw, if all of the above is true or José doesn't rate him then just offload him in the summer without creating the circus that surrounded Jose's press conference.


 

 

 

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05 Jul 2018 15:38:35
Always tried to back jose and give him the benefit of the doubt but if the rumours about Shaqiri are true I’ll have lost all faith, don’t care if its 12 million or 12 bob he’s not worth it, i watched him against the swedes and i bet he didn’t run a bloody mile all game and that's at the World Cup.

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06 May 2018 19:36:27
Sorry for late post but i can see where jose is coming from, after fridays performance i can see why jose doesn’t trust either, both either tried too hard or aren’t mature enough because both ran down blind alleys and failed with the final pass, both have potential but soon or later potential but sooner or later they have to start delivering consistently, i rate both highly but the prem is unforgiving and we can only accept it for so long, Lukaku touch is like he’s trapping a bag of cement ( cheers Brian clough) but he delivers consistently.

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10 Jan 2018 22:07:03
Looks a good player, hope he comes back and gets a chance, good luck to the lad.

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17 Jul 2017 21:42:09
I hope if we do sell ddg to Madrid then let's make em pay top dollar, they tried to shaft us over marata 80 mill yet reports suggest its only 62 mill to Milan, personally hope they tell em to swivel.

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20 Jun 2017 22:05:23
Naymar, messi, ronaldo, jose, all big names and earners, coincidence? Who next bale, Suarez, no Spanish looks like a witch hunt to me and nobody has broke the rules more than Madrid.

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06 May 2018 19:53:57
Who the hell disliked this post, nob.

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16 Apr 2018 19:00:12
Agrred ken and I’m not convinced we will finish 2nd, this is how they’ve got my expectations I’ll be chuffed that we finish top 4 ( god i sound like a arsenal fan)

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08 Apr 2018 20:38:19
Regarding the young tackle I’m probably in a majority of 1but i think he’s getting some unfair stick, if you watch closely he gets the ball full on then rolls over the top then catches him so it looks worse than it was, still sore but a total accident.

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01 Mar 2018 20:46:10
Begrudgingly agree 3 quality goals stii 2nd half to go. G NEW holding his tongue, musr be killing him 😂.

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28 Feb 2018 21:23:12
Is that an open invitation ed because i'm due in UAE next February 😁.

Smooth

{Ed001's Note - you will have to remind me nearer the time, I will have forgotten by the morning, let alone next year!}