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19 Jun 2019 22:11:53
Manchester United agree to pay Crystal Palace £55m for Aaron Wan-Bissaka. A world-record transfer fee for a specialist full back. Source Duncan Castles.

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20 Jul 2013 15:27:43
Sly sports claiming that we have now made an improved bid for Cesc apparently £30 million plus add ons.

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1.) We seem to be all out for him. Fingers crossed we get him.

Nicolas_United


2.) Lets get real, Barca have to pay Arsenal a percentage of any transfer deal. They paid over 30 million for him. Why on earth would they let him go for less than they paid when they do not want to see him go in the first place.
Just another United smokescreen to stop the supporters moaning about the lack of transfer activity. c'mon get real there's no value in the market. Anyone know Paul Scholes phone number


3.) No name poster. Barca paid £26 million actually.


4.) Its alreaddy been confirmed that arsenal will not receive 50% that's just a rumour. The only thing arsenal have is a first refusal that all and they won't enforce it as they don't need him they need a striker and that's why arsene wenger tried to discourage a united bid by saying its a waiste of time


5.) No name all this smokescreen talk is the most backwards debate in football. Nobody plays around with £30 million, you would have to either be very naive or just an attention seeker to think this is an attempt to appease fans or sell season tickets.

Wazza.


6.) Arsenal do have a clause where they get 50% of anything over what they sold him for, so if they sold him for 26 million & United buy him for 36 million they get 50% of the 10 million profit & not 50% of 36million. MIDDLETON RED


 

 

 

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26 May 2022 06:59:48
Been watching Smalling and other ex playes which we sold, considering them as not up to the mark.

I am starting to believe that players were always good, they were there to be coached, by a good coach. Not with emotional appointments like Moyes, Ole, Rangnick. Mourinho, SAF and to certain extent LVG showed that they can work with a comparatively less talented pool of players and achieve better performances.

I am sure that if Mourinho or LVG would have given more time, we would not have been in such a dire condition. We would have certainly developed a style of play.

Conclusion is that I am hopeful that with current set of players, coach like ETH will be able to get most out of the current players, I know some positions needs reinforcements, but I am now very very hopeful. I have realised that players are not the problem, the coaches were.

ProgrammerFan

1.) 26 May 2022 08:54:01
I don't disagree with you and I think you make some good points I wouldn't argue against but Smalling is 6ft 5,rarely scored from corners or was much of a threat in an attacking sense .

For such a big man he had very little upper body strength compared to someone like Craig Dawson or Tarkowski of Burnley, very easily pushed off the ball.

Worst of all his last 2 seasons with us he suddenly developed the terrible habit of holding and grabbing opposition forwards at set pieces, he was often a red card waiting to happen in the modern game. Probably has been coached better since leaving us but at the time I wasnt sorry to see him go.


2.) 26 May 2022 09:58:51
This is just not about Smalling, its about all other players who have left because of bad coaching, Memphis, Smalling, Mkhitaryan, Herrera etc.

Smalling is always better than Jones, him winning MOTM in conference league final proves it. I think he still has greater number of games for MUFC than Jones have managed till date.

Sancho, deadly attacker in Germany, comes to us and struggles, Varane, top defender when with Madrid, came to us and looks like a player running with a limp. The list is long Pogba, Van de Beek, Matrial, Alexis Sanchez, Di Maria, Juna Mata

One example is Luis Diaz, a player who has a confirmed history of malnutrition, rocks the ground with his performances.

Again, all top level players or you can say players who can get in to any team's squad, but they struggled here under a below par Coach.


3.) 26 May 2022 10:21:00
Smalling without doubt one of the worst footballers I’ve ever seen! Absolutely dreadful! Paid obscene amounts of money and couldn’t pass a ball, controls ball! Horrendous!


4.) 26 May 2022 10:33:42
PF mourinho had smalling here and he was shocking. Mourinho and Van Gaal worked with the players above that you named. I get there is a coaching element, of course there is. But the players also have to have the right character, and want to improve. Memphis didn’t have that in his time here. I think I remember ed1 saying we were going to try him on the right and he didn’t want that.

Players haven’t improved here for a long time, but players have to also be responsible for their own development as well. A good coach can’t make you a good player without the correct work ethic.


5.) 26 May 2022 11:28:00
Then what about the decline in performances of Rashford, Bruno, Sancho etc. I am sure someone at the club is responsible to keep the squad morale in check. Someone who must rang the alarm once they see or feel that players, who should be on their peak, are actually on a decline.

There was this dreadful pattern in our play in recent times, where close to no crosses were sent in the box, as the box was always empty, ball was recycled from left to right in defence. I miss the poster who was named as NoMidfield, as it was the case then and it was the case now, we don't have a mid field. It pained to see the last 2 games, we were tormented by Brighton and schooled by Palace.

Again, I believe ETH will turn it upside down, CR7 will be his captain and I think we will get De Jong to partner him with de beek. Next winter/ summer window we will go all out for Darwin Nunez.


6.) 26 May 2022 13:01:38
PF every manager has had his faults. The players aren’t blameless. But using Rashford as your example. There’s something serious he needs to sort himself. I’ve played to a pretty decent level of rugby in the past under some excellent coaches and some poor coaches. Ultimately at the highest level the vast majority of coaches are very good, but it was on me to improve under them.


 

 

23 May 2022 06:26:33
Glad that the season has ended. Eth must now have seen the gravity of the job he has on his hands,

its a shame how disjointed we are as a team, if a certain 37 year old is left out, we look like a portsmouth team when they last played in the PL.

Star players like Rashford, Sancho, Shaw, Varane hiding behind silly excuses and imaginary injuries. I would credit the team that played with some applause that they were able to show up and kicked the ball without purpose for 94 minutes.

I don't think signing 3-4 players will be enough. There is a hell lot to do. I don't see when I have seen a cross sent in to the danger area. They always gets in to good positions to cross, then they choose to recycle the ball to other flank.

Similarly, our strikers, they choose to shoot when they should have passed, and they pass endlessly when they should have shoot. Opposition penalty area remains so empty that if someone wanted to raise a wheat field, they would be able to reap bumper crop.

Bruno, as much as i like him. He needs help psychologically, he is always complaining.

De Gea comes and gives a tweet after every match, may be he doesn't realise that he has conceded equal number of goals as we have scored.

At this stage, no better player would want to get in to this team, we should be ready to either pay large wages to better players or we should be ready to see another mediocre season, but surely better than this season.

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1.) 23 May 2022 07:57:50
This season alone, Bruno was droppable for half the games. I saw Mata do more than bruno.
If you ask me, 2-3 players aside noone deserves to be a starter from this squad.
De Gea and Ronaldo are the only 2 regulars. Maybe you play Sancho on one side. That's it.
Terrible players all over the pitch.

What does Lindelof do? Why is he the first choice?


2.) 23 May 2022 08:34:38
And to add to that, I don't understand the process of loaning out the players that would have provided us options and helped in this period. Amad, Pellestri, Garner, Tuanzebe. We loan players who are contracted long term and we play players who are going to leave, Pogba, Cavani, Lingard, Matic, Mata.


3.) 23 May 2022 08:39:54
Lindelof is a good player but thing is we don't have a leader on pitch who organises the team. Harry sulks himself, Bruno is on the floor always trying that hollywood pass. Whole team must have been made to look at how Brighton and Hove Albion plays, they pass, they play as a team.

Man United, it seems defense midfield and attack are in three islands, so disjointed.

We need a captain material who can come in and demand better from these players on the pitch. Telles and Fred shouting at young Hannibal after he made a wrong pass, as if Telles and Fred, being seasoned footballers have never lost a ball.

Atleast Hannibal and Garnacho were hungry, they were frustrated, they were humans, who were getting affected by the standards of the overall team play.


4.) 23 May 2022 11:12:20
Perversely I think that because the players have been so bad this season and been called out for it they know they have nowhere to hide with the new manager and that they can't hide next season. Provides ETH does lay down the law and impose discipline and has a good idea how to use the assembled squad plus a few additions then we might do a lot better than many expect.

A lot of the players are far more talented than their performances have shown. Imagine Klopp or Pep in charge. I am convinced that the team would have performed significantly better. So let's ETH gets the time and resources and has the ability to so the same.


5.) 23 May 2022 11:01:13
Amad is a mile away from first team, pallestri I’m not sure either, tuanzebe not up to it. Garner has a chance, mainly due to the poor players in front of him. Big decisions to be made.


6.) 23 May 2022 12:57:58
The players are talented, but they have refused to play as a team this year, too much politics in the dressing room.

With so many players out of contract or wanting to leave, the opportunity is there for Erik to change that dressing room dynamic straight away.


 

 

16 Mar 2022 07:42:50
What should we do?

- Improve Defense?
- Improve Midfield?
- Improve Attack?

in my humble opinion, we should set up our team not to concede.

I think our wingbacks are very average, if they do not improve, we should switch to a 3-4-3 or may be 5-3-2 formation. Play an extra defender who can play in 3.

Dalot and Telles are suited for 5-3-2.

Varane, Lindelof and Baily/ Maquire as back 3

Bruno Fred/ Scott Garner as 3 in the mid

Ronaldo/ Cavani (or a quick striker) and Sancho as top 2

I don't know what are the incomings in the summer but i think 2 good CM are needed, one CDM and one Box to Box strong mid.

Still unsure about DDG/ Henderson.

ProgrammerFan

1.) 16 Mar 2022 08:41:32
Still unsure about ddg or Henderson? Really? Henderson is nowhere near good enough to be No1 for us.


2.) 16 Mar 2022 09:41:48
Dalot is suited to a 5-3-2, is that the excuse we are giving him? Tell me what qualities he has to be a premier league quality wing back? He can’t defend and he can’t cross, he constantly passes backwards. His only good quality is that he isn’t Wan Bissaka. I’d rather we played Phil Jones at right back.

We need a right back, a centre half, at least 1 midfielder to replace Pogba and a forward, maybe 2 if / when Ronaldo leaves.


3.) 16 Mar 2022 09:54:38
We need strengthening down the entire spine.
A solid centre-back to play alongside Varane. Bailley/ Lindelof have some of the qualities but are both very error-prone.
If/ when Pogba goes and when Bruno has an off-day there is no play-maker, no spark. No-one that can do a worldy pass or bit of magic. Is Scholes too old?
Fred I must say has just played two great games and been amongst our better players. But that midfield needs shoring up from a creative point of view and defensive.
Striker. Cavani is off, I doubt we'll see Greenwood again at this level, Ronaldo won't won't a final season in the Europa and Rashford is perhaps the biggest puzzler of all. He just seems so lifeless when he plays. What was a competitive attack at the start of the season is going to be thread-bare in two months. We need a new focal point. Frighteningly, it looks like there is a very real chance Martial is coming back.
I've aired my views that the fullbacks are utterly average, and in an era where they offer so much to a side's tactics it's really starting to hold us back. Look at how much of a difference the top two can play because of their strength in this area. Ours aren't even playing the same sport. Somehow I don't see this area being addressed right away.
Still a fan of Dave the Save after a shaky spell. Henderson I imagine will be starting elsewhere next season.
I think we stand to lose 6-7 players. I don't see us forking out for that many, so I expect Hannibal/ Garner to become regulars.


4.) 16 Mar 2022 09:55:57
dalot
awb
bailly
jones
mata
matic
martial
cavani
grant
pogba
lingard

all need to leave, they are not good enough its simple as that.

get 4 or 5 players in the summer, promote some of the kids and go from there. biggest signing this summer will be the manager, forget incomings for now we need to get the manager right.


5.) 16 Mar 2022 09:56:04
If Pochettino arrives, then he’ll want a solid defence and attacking wingbacks.

We’d have to hope he can repeat the positive effect he had on Shaw at Southampton and he can work on AWB also (Which I've read he wants to do apparently)

Maybe CR will stay another year and be happy to play second to a new striker.

Heard he wants to work with Rashford also, plus youngsters he could blend into attack such as Garnacho and McNeil.

So I think MP woukd be ok with defence (woukd HG be replaced or woukd he improve with coaching and a DM to stop him coming out so much - or Araujo next to him, winning the ball then passing to HG to distribute? ) but it’s the midfield that is so important now:

Quality DM (Rice or Tchoumeni? But woukd they come if no CL football? Plus wanted by City and Chelsea)

Woukd DM then enable Fred/ McT to be more box to box? Garner also? Hannibal as Pogba replacement? Give DVB a go?

So I woukd hope they woukd prioritise the following:

Striker

DM

Back up GK as Henderson will go.

Release/ sell: Jones, Lingard, Pogba, Matic, Henderson, Bailly, Martial, Grant, Mata etc. and Phelan.


6.) 16 Mar 2022 10:05:27
GDS, I don't think we will be able to sign so many new players in one window. I think all we will do is sign one CDM and a ST this summer.


7.) 16 Mar 2022 10:31:51
There are very few players that I would keep. We need fullbacks who can defend first and foremost. Our full backs can get forward but are poor defensively. We need another centre back. We need a complete overhaul in midfield with players who can pass, close down, press, create and score. We need a striker. I don’t agree with Scholesy at all when he says that wee have a good squad. Scholesy is one of the best players I have ever seen but his judgement of players is suspect.


8.) 16 Mar 2022 11:57:03
Our full backs are absolute garbage! In both boxes!

My biggest annoyance with scholes is he’s full of it now slagging RR off saying we need a top coach ( we do ) however he was more than happy to sit on his backside and support Ole and his mates when they got a job for three years! Awful pundit!

We could literally sell any of this squad I wouldn’t care too much, that’s how big a job we have I think!


9.) 16 Mar 2022 23:04:49
Programmer,

I agree, will take 3 or 4 windows to get it right, the fans won’t allow that to happen though and panic stations will set in after 3 months. The club have to have a plan and stick with it while we build.


 

 

25 Aug 2019 06:27:42
If you guys do not see the improvement in this team then you are smoking something bad. Against Wolves, we missed a number of chances other than the penalty, would that penalty alone would have gone in, you will not be writing all this.

Against Palace, another penalty, a referee who was there just for taking the p! ss, on another day Cahill would have been sent off, two errors leading to goals, our CB are new to each other and this happens when you start playing with a new partner. DDG should never have been beaten on his near post but again sh! t happens. If that Rashford Penalty had gone in, you again will be praising the team for resiliance.

Look at the Passing stats for this season Pogba leads with 242 passes, followed by Viktor and Harry at 228 and 226 passes. 4/ 8 players in those passing stats are our players.

Most passes? United tops the charts with 1670 passes.

We have scored goals in every match and have 3 different scorers already.

I have not expected this team to win PL this season but this season will be a work in progress. 3/ 3 signings so far are gelling very very well.

Harry, James, Wan Bissaka all look right at home. The goals we have conceded are a result of either our own mistakes or by pressing too much, we can't press overly in our own half. That the team will learn eventually.

Again if Pogba's and Rashford's penalty had got in, it will be rosy rosy here. But then again I am sure some of you lot would have found another scapegoat to blame. How would you survive without Lingard, Shaw (Player's player of the year. )

ProgrammerFan

1.) 25 Aug 2019 08:48:07
You're wasting your time mate, people have made their minds up already.

I have no issue with people arguing their point of view and outlining why they think we are poor, or should sack the Manager, or should aell x or y. It's the knee jerk reaction tions and the emotional outbursts that frustrate me. We have a shape, we have a style, we have 3 great new players. Anyone who thought we would be immediately challenging was being far too optimistic.


2.) 25 Aug 2019 09:02:10
PF if we are going to talk about ifs and buts then Chelsea should never have lost 4-0 in the first game, we were lucky to go in leading at half time as had they taken all the chances they created it would have been an easy chelsea win.

The same goes for the wolves match or are we going to ignore the luck we got with them hitting the post when ddg was clearly beaten.

We had great passing and possession stats under LvG, i remember people calling it boring, James has looked anything but right at home, he was mostly rubbish against wolves and barring the good finish ineffectual against palace, he is clearly trying but shouldn't be anywhere near starting position. Wan Bissaka has been a rock at the back but very iffy going forward. It was Maguire who played Palace player onside.

Also the whole we conceded due to our mistakes, is this suppose to be an excuse for OGS? how do you think we earned the penalties or do the opposition managers plan and instruct their players to give away pens?

We hadn't lost to Palace in league since 1989, a record even moyes failed to break. OGS now has won just 3 of his last 15 games. We have sold our forward and ;et our only decent midfielder outside of pogba leave on a free and replaced them with no one, basically leaving us short in midfield and attack. So yes I do fail to see the improvement.


3.) 25 Aug 2019 09:08:38
100% agree. If we scored both our penalties then we would likely have 9 points from 3 games.

These things happen. I think our fans raise expectations very quickly. No one expected us to challenge this year, everyone felt we are a couple of years away from challenging. Everyone believed that we needed at least a RW and a No.10 in the summer and possibly another midfielder to replace Pogba. Everyone agreed without these players we would struggle.

Then suddenly we beat Chelsea 4-0 opening day and we are title challengers again.

A week later we come back down to earth and suddenly Ole isn't getting enough out of the players or he is mismanaging them as we aren't top of the league.

It's ridiculous.


4.) 25 Aug 2019 12:13:15
Shappy you said, suddenly ole isn't good enough, people on here have been saying that since he took over.


5.) 25 Aug 2019 12:23:10
If your aunt had a moustache she would be your uncle. Keep saying if this and that and keep justifying this crap and we might find ourselves in a bigger hole.

{Ed007's Note - You've obviously never met my Aunt Grace.}


6.) 25 Aug 2019 13:05:39
Shappy never knew that expecting your team to beat Crystal Palace at Home meant you also expected to fight for the title.


7.) 25 Aug 2019 13:34:38
I agree with Programmer Fan, which is not to say we are likely to improve much from here.

Against CP we created enough chances to win. We should have had a second penalty when Martial was pulled down. It was 100% clear.

Our main failure is an inability total any advantage from dead ball situations: PKs, free kicks around the box, and corners.


8.) 25 Aug 2019 15:19:05
70% possession and 22 shots on goal compared to 30% and 4 shots on goal.

We did everything but put the ball in the net. Plus there are arguements that Palace should have had Cahill sent off and we should have been awarded a second penalty for the foul on Martial.

We were just unlucky.


9.) 25 Aug 2019 15:34:55
Did the possibility occur to you when analysing these passing stats that tottenham and manchester city have played one less game than us?

One stat that will give you an accurate guage of this team and their struggles breaking down low blocks would be looking at the chances created stats at the end of this game week.


10.) 25 Aug 2019 15:47:50
That's right Shappy, even I go in to a match always thinking that we are going to smash the opponents. But then all of the teams have improved and they know how to exploit other teams weakness.

I can see us going for a midfielder in January. If possible, a striker in henrik larsson mould.

I am very happy with the summer acquisitions and I really believe that Ole will get it right soon.


11.) 25 Aug 2019 15:55:20
We have been unlucky for the last 6 years. 😂😂There will come a time where luck will not be an sufficient excuse.


12.) 25 Aug 2019 18:24:47
How many of those 22 shots were on target and how many of them were by Rashford who took a shot from his home. There GK hardly made a save.


 

 

06 Aug 2019 11:11:03
I see harry scoring a goal this Sunday against Chelsea. One of those thumping headers.

ProgrammerFan

1.) 06 Aug 2019 11:33:47
Who was the last United player to score a header from a corner?


2.) 06 Aug 2019 11:38:38
Saw Jones head a goal in preseason :D. In actual games, it might be Smalling.


3.) 06 Aug 2019 11:38:55
Lindelof against Burnley I guess.


4.) 06 Aug 2019 12:32:03
May it's just me, but I'm sure we used to score a lot of headers from corners, Vidic, Keane, Bruce spring to mind. Seems to be a rare occurrence these days.


5.) 06 Aug 2019 12:52:52
The wig?


 

 

 

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06 Aug 2019 11:37:39
I don't see we returning to Dybala, he has already acted like a mercenary and will only complicate things if he is to come and join.
Saying that we did look below average in midfield when Pogba is not playing and when Matic is there. So if we can add a solid midfielder to the fold then we will be set. I still feel we will get one more first team player in before the window shuts on thursday.

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05 Aug 2019 14:23:18
Why not pay extra $30 million and get Cristiano? Just saying.

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18 Jun 2019 07:45:28
Lukaku.

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17 May 2019 13:14:32
Ed, what kind of player Sean longstaff is? If you can tell us about his playing style and attributes.

Thanks in advance.

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{Ed001's Note - it is difficult to say because he has been given different roles. Initially when I saw him he was very like Matic, tall and frontscreening the defence. However I saw a couple of games later that he was performing a more box-to-box role and showed he had a good strike on him and played some lovely insightful passes too. He has yet to really develop into a style of playing and is still young enough to be moulded.}


 

 

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17 Dec 2015 10:20:04
You guys either underestimate India a lot or most of you haven't even visited India once :D.

Man United is the most supported club in India, the numbers are far bigger then UK. ;)

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04 Sep 2023 08:03:53
I would not complain much about Rice's goal. Evans should have gone down earlier. There was a clear penalty on Hojlund, I don't know why that was not even viewed at. Studs up challenge on Bruno by Saka, if that was earlier last season, this challenge would have been yellow, but this season when yellow cards are showered on tiny tiny incidents, Saka's should atleast have been viewed by Var.

Garnacho was not offside, the decision was made in such a hurry. Anyways we played really well when Hojlund came on. It was exciting to see a striker apply himself physically on arsenal defense.

Intenational break and we will surely see more commanding performances by players.

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26 May 2022 11:28:00
Then what about the decline in performances of Rashford, Bruno, Sancho etc. I am sure someone at the club is responsible to keep the squad morale in check. Someone who must rang the alarm once they see or feel that players, who should be on their peak, are actually on a decline.

There was this dreadful pattern in our play in recent times, where close to no crosses were sent in the box, as the box was always empty, ball was recycled from left to right in defence. I miss the poster who was named as NoMidfield, as it was the case then and it was the case now, we don't have a mid field. It pained to see the last 2 games, we were tormented by Brighton and schooled by Palace.

Again, I believe ETH will turn it upside down, CR7 will be his captain and I think we will get De Jong to partner him with de beek. Next winter/ summer window we will go all out for Darwin Nunez.

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26 May 2022 09:58:51
This is just not about Smalling, its about all other players who have left because of bad coaching, Memphis, Smalling, Mkhitaryan, Herrera etc.

Smalling is always better than Jones, him winning MOTM in conference league final proves it. I think he still has greater number of games for MUFC than Jones have managed till date.

Sancho, deadly attacker in Germany, comes to us and struggles, Varane, top defender when with Madrid, came to us and looks like a player running with a limp. The list is long Pogba, Van de Beek, Matrial, Alexis Sanchez, Di Maria, Juna Mata

One example is Luis Diaz, a player who has a confirmed history of malnutrition, rocks the ground with his performances.

Again, all top level players or you can say players who can get in to any team's squad, but they struggled here under a below par Coach.

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23 May 2022 08:39:54
Lindelof is a good player but thing is we don't have a leader on pitch who organises the team. Harry sulks himself, Bruno is on the floor always trying that hollywood pass. Whole team must have been made to look at how Brighton and Hove Albion plays, they pass, they play as a team.

Man United, it seems defense midfield and attack are in three islands, so disjointed.

We need a captain material who can come in and demand better from these players on the pitch. Telles and Fred shouting at young Hannibal after he made a wrong pass, as if Telles and Fred, being seasoned footballers have never lost a ball.

Atleast Hannibal and Garnacho were hungry, they were frustrated, they were humans, who were getting affected by the standards of the overall team play.

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23 May 2022 08:34:38
And to add to that, I don't understand the process of loaning out the players that would have provided us options and helped in this period. Amad, Pellestri, Garner, Tuanzebe. We loan players who are contracted long term and we play players who are going to leave, Pogba, Cavani, Lingard, Matic, Mata.

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