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20 Jan 2020 20:31:36
Not here to gloat but wanted to say we understand where you are now. We went from bad owners to clueless ones. When Hicks and Gilet came in we were nearly wiped out financially. The biggest problem with US owners is the sports are run completely different, no relegation, playoffs to win trophy, salary caps and so on. The Glazers saw an opportunity to take over from an excelllent group of owners invest small amounts and take out huge amounts of money. After 10 years of this the club are under financial pressures but more importantly it's being run by clowns like ours was under H&G. If the Glazers don't sell they need to at least recognize they are destroying the brand. We were extremely lucky with FSG and they made mistakes at the beginning but they learned. They adapted. The fix for you won't be the next 2 windows buying new stars it's about setting up the club for success. If they can do that now you could see results in a couple of years, if not it could be like us and take 20 more. Good luck for the rest of the season and let the gloaters gloat, after 30 years it's a bit of pressure to be released. Cheers.

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1.) 20 Jan 2020 21:29:36
I hold no love for the Glazers. I regard their leveraged buy out and the amount of money that went to covering debt over their first 8-10 years to be the starting point of our decline, but at this point in time, the reason for the malaise is not necessarily the ownership but the management. The Glazers themselves are not responsible for the club structure, it's the CEO. Nor are they responsible for the selection of manager and players. New owners would not necessarily cure anything, especially if they leave the operational structure in place.

Some of this (a lot, perhaps) is down to bad management but some of it is cyclical. No team can stay at the top for ever. Regime changes result in changes in ethos and style, and results. United have not yet discovered an identity for the post-Ferguson era. Neither have Arsenal in the wake of Wenger's departure. New owners per se won't solve the problems - they will need to make the right decisions.


2.) 21 Jan 2020 04:39:49
I'm not sure if the owners are mostly to blame.
We have spent close to 1 Billion in recruiting players over the last decade which have also seen us having the world's 2nd highest wage bill.

This means although we have spent money, it has been spent poorly.
Ultimately this means, we have poor decision makers with respect to footballing matters.

Unless the structure is fixed, every manager will just be another pawn.


3.) 21 Jan 2020 09:44:30
The owners only started throwing the money around when things had started to go wrong . If they had spent some of that money on players in Fergie's later years the club would have been in a better position for the hand over post Fergie .

I know some will say when fergie left we were champions but in reality he got one last tune out of great players coming to the end of the line and decent but not hectic squad players, and was lucky it was a season with no really outstanding team around of the calibre of the current Liverpool and City teams.


 

 

06 May 2018 01:01:42
Just wanted to come over and say we are all hoping Sir Alex pulls through. We may be driven crazy of his success but at the end of the day he deserves everyone's respect and well wishes.

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21 Apr 2022 00:02:35
So coming here in peace. Reading through the the comments. I can honestly say your best bet is to start from scratch. The current method of buying big name players hasn’t done anything except make it harder and harder for any manager to come in and motivate the players. The culture at the club seems to have gone, for the players it’s more about image. They seem to care more for their brand than that of the clubs. Like one of the posters said, even during our years in the wilderness we still tried. We may not have been winning trophies but by god we would do all we could to try and stop you. We are lucky in all fairness for our club only came out of the wilderness due to Klopp. He has changed everything at the club.
DeGea and Rashford are the two players you need to keep although I feel Rashord has given up sadly. He’s a true gentleman, you need his type around to build again, to keep the youngsters on the right path.
In all fairness I want to be competing for trophies with your lot, not the plastics who we are currently up against. Losing against you guys means something. It makes you angry and wanting to meet again and fight like hell to turn the result around. Playing against them is a bore really. You want to beat them for they’re essentially a bunch of prats not because of an actual rivalry.
Have faith in the rebuild. Let it happen correctly and look at the improvements on and off the pitch. One last thing, SAF needs to step back. Nothing against him but I feel his interference has been a major part of your problem. It’s like you ask one parent to do something knowing the other will say no. He’s been undermining the operations I’d say, not intentionally but how does a club legend like him have someone say no to him.
Peace out.

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29 May 2021 06:21:08
Obama a clown, really? Just need to ask. if Obama is a clown what is Trump? Just trying to get perspective.

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27 May 2021 12:26:50
Damon86 it was a horrible way to lose, but DeGea has given his best years to your club and during the days when you guys were really abysmal he literally kept you guys in the top half of the table on his own. Perhaps his time at the club has come to an end and personally I would have put Henderson in goal for the game but DeGea has been an amazing player for your lot and what he’s done for you club should not be tossed aside like that.

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17 Dec 2018 23:48:13
The LFC return is now the 24th @2:05.

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