11 May 2023 17:18:18
Goalkeeping latest rumour I read is that we are looking at Dutch and Anderlecht bart verbruggen. Also I see tabloids of Emi Martinez wanting to leave in the summer and Utd being one of the possible destinations.

1.) 11 May 2023
11 May 2023 18:38:51
Personally I think David Raya would be a great option from within the EPL.

Other options could be Diogo Costa, Andre Onana or Gregor Kobel if we have funds to spend big on a keeper.

2.) 11 May 2023
11 May 2023 21:07:33
Sanchez from Brighton would be a good one, somethings going on there as he's not playing recently. I also like the look of bazunu at Southampton, I know they get battered most weeks but he's going to be decent.

3.) 11 May 2023
11 May 2023 22:36:32
Play football with a huge Brentford fan. They all love Raya there. Apparently a class act.

4.) 12 May 2023
12 May 2023 09:33:37
If we are spending large amount on a goalkeeper I think Raya is the one, however I doubt he gets brought in if De Gea signs his contract. I would not be surprised if we bring a young keeper in, give them a season to aclimatise and compete with De Gea with Bart Verbruggen being mentioned in that regard.
A lot may depend on the budget for the summer as we may not be able to get all the players we want in one go so have to prioritise.

5.) 12 May 2023
12 May 2023 16:49:45
Signing DDG on a 2 year extension on a lower basic wage, with maybe a one year extension wouldn't be the worst idea. Even if we sign a new first choice keeper.

In the past the issue has always been that one first choice keepers leaves before a new one is brought in. That puts a lot of pressure on the new guy as he has to be a success.

It would make much more sense to bring a new first choice keeper in AND keep DDG as back up for a year or two just in case.

For me Raya seems like the best choice. He's EPL proven and wouldn't cost as much as some of the other options due to him only having a year left on his deal.

6.) 12 May 2023
12 May 2023 18:52:26
Shappy, You can’t put de gea on 200k a week and then a stick him on the bench

I agree we should get someone to challenge him, but they wouldn’t be first choice unless de gea kept dropping clangers

If ten Haag thinks he will keep dropping clangers, he wouldn’t want to extend his contract.

Only way de gea stays is if he’s first choice imo.

7.) 12 May 2023
12 May 2023 20:53:05
MRT_TGOD, the problem is Henderson will almost certainly leave this summer. So if DDG leaves then we will need two new keepers rather than just one.

I agree that keeping DDG on 200k a week to be our second choice keeper is less than ideal. But somewhere along the line compromises will need to be made. Keeping a club legend at the club on high wages as a back up for a year or two isn't the worst compromise.

Assuming that DDG will be happy as our back up.

What doesn't make any sense is signing a keeper who isn't better or better suited to how EtH wants to play just to keep DDG as first choice.

You should always be aiming to buy better than what you have and then make the current first teamer the back up. That way you are getting better.

8.) 12 May 2023
12 May 2023 21:39:28
if we end up buying a goalie, until then we will get associated to every goalie under the sun:)

9.) 13 May 2023
13 May 2023 12:26:37
Shappy I just think buying a young goalkeeper who can play the way ten Haag wants makes sense at this stage.
striker, midfielder and centre back all bigger priorities than the gk and possibly a limited budget this summer

I wouldn’t even mind if we had de gea, kovar and Heaton as the 3.

If kovar doesn’t show enough then we buy a new number 1 next summer.

10.) 13 May 2023
13 May 2023 13:09:55
MRT_TGOD,

The thing is that much like Liverpool and City a modern keeper is fundamental to how they play.

It wasn't until Pep got Ederson and Klopp got Alisson that either team was able to make that jump to being the all conquering sides that they became.

While we are seeing a decline at both Chelsea and Spurs in part due to them not being able to be defensively secure and lacking a keeper who can play effectively in a more modern style.

Arsenal on the other hand made a massive jump forward this season, a large part of that is the signing of Ramsdale (who personally I think is a good but not great keeper) . He does however allow the side to play out from the back and he is comfortable in stepping out of his area to sweep.

There is a clear pattern that where teams that have added a modern keeper have massively improved and become amongst the elite and those that haven't have regressed and declined, dropping down the table.

Simply put having a press resistant keeper who is comfortable on the ball and capable of sweeping outside of their area means that your team is playing with the full 11 men both in and out of possession.

Whereas teams playing with a more traditional shot stopper keeper are only playing with 10 men when in possession.

You cannot get to the top when playing with one hand effectively tied behind your back due to you giving your opposition a man advantage against you.

The footballing landscape has evolved beyond the capabilities of DDG, and he is now not a top level keeper.

If we don't replace DDG this summer with a keeper capable of playing the style EtH requires then we WILL NOT finish next season in the top four.

11.) 13 May 2023
13 May 2023 18:17:40
MRT_TGOD

One of the things that have led to success/ marked improvement for the likes of City, Liverpool, Arsenal and Newcastle is the application of a particular brand of football. They have all bought keepers who fit the style.

For example.
Ederson could win his 5 title and/ or his second FA Cup this season, he might even win the CL with City. Joined in 2017 and also won 4 League Cups and 2 Charity Shields.
Alisson has won a title, an FA Cup, League Cup, CL, and CWC since joining Liverpool in 2018.

Since the arrival of Ederson, De Gea has won just the one trophy - this year's League Cup.
In the 6 seasons since the arrival of City's wonderful keeper, United have foolishly stuck with a comparative relic while also, in 2019, agreeing to paying him £19.5m per year - the highest paid GK on the planet and getting more than the entire squad of Leeds and Brentford. That's called at least 4 years of pathetic mismanagement led by the moronic decisions of idiots.
In the meantime, Arsenal, Newcastle, even Villa and Brighton, have bought keepers who play the modern way and bring greater strengths to their respective teams.

I know that, from a logical standpoint, £200k per week for a second choice GK is daft, but that's where United are.
Personally, I would never have agreed to the 2019 contract for De Gea.

United don't have a choice.
They need a new first-choice keeper who will cost in excess of £40m.
They need a decent second-choice - that might well cost at least £20m.
That £20m, during this period of transition, would probably be better spent elsewhere - especially if United could get £20m+ for Henderson.

At the end of the day, De Gea can still do a job and has served the club as well as he could, but the game changed years ago and United are now making well overdue decisions to help drive the change of identity throughout the club.

For instance, do you think Maguire would look quite as bad if he had Ederson behind him?
He still wouldn't be an £80m player - never in a month of hellishly frozen Sundays, but he'd be more comfortable.

United need to simply take the inevitable hits. They've spent big on wages for years, they're still easily the biggest spenders on salaries in the PL and the 4th in world football.
We've not won the League for 10 years. Read that again, let it sink in - 10 years.
Since that last title win, we've won one FA Cup, two League Cups and one Europa League.
Since that last title win, we've continually allowed ourselves to look stupid by agreeing to ridiculous contracts and renewals for the likes of De Gea and Jones.
Since that last title win, we've allowed Pogba to take the proverbial again and paid way over the odds for him and so many other players.
Since that last title win, our identity has been like a crane fly - all over the place.

This period has been an incredibly expensive farce, conducted by a variety of pilchards who are way out of their depth.
It's only right and utterly unavoidable that the transitional period is also expensive, that's the bed United have made for themselves.