10 Jan 2014 19:56:39
A lot of you on here are slagging Moyes off and trust me I am not normally disposed to defending him. BUT. Ferguson ran this team into the ground and didn't sign the replacements needed over the last two or three seasons. Now why would that be I wonder? Disney - save your fingers - I know you were champions last season with much the same team. that was down to Ferguson's force of will and the mediocrity of the other teams in the division.
Ferguson got out whilst the going was good and ensured that the man following (his own choice by the way - thank him David) wouldn't 'come uo to scratch'.


1.) 10 Jan 2014
We are struggling to deal with SAF's retirement. The players have lost confidence and to top it off we are struggling with injuries. We are missing our two best players along with other important players at a time when you need your best players fit and playing together. I'd like to see how you would cope without Suarez, Gerrard, Coutinho & Sturridge.

Simple question for you and be honest. Where would we be now if SAF was still in charge and we were not missing our best players?


2.) 10 Jan 2014
I have had the same views and reasoning but why choose a man with no previous experience of being a winner? Just look at his body language he is totally out of his depth! Hope I am wrong but this whole episode could be the end of our recent glory years .


3.) 10 Jan 2014
A leader, a leading manager would have come in and got far more out the team. Sadly we appointed Moyes, dithering Dave who some of the Everton fans wanted rid of. The rest follows on from that basic mistake.


4.) 10 Jan 2014
Sydney are you forgetting we didn't have Suarez for 6 games, Gerrard missed games due to injury! Sturridge been out for a few games we've had right backs playing left back! The problem you have is Moyes training is so intense that it's causing injuries to your star players I.e Rvp! If fergie was still at the helm I think you would be challenging! Fergie had built up a fear factor where teams assumed they were going to get beat when they played you! In 3 months Moyes has demolished that fear factor and now teams are playing you and expecting to get something! I still think you will finish top 4 as you have to much quality waiting to come back from injury but that's only if Moyes can regain the confidence of the dressing room!


5.) 10 Jan 2014
RR!, great post and agree with most of it. MU have always had injuries, but this season we are getting injuries to everyone at once and the last thing we need right now is injuries. It's okay having one or two of your best players out, but when you are missing the majority of them it's difficult. I also think many have played whilst carrying injuries. I think the fear factor has been going for a few years now, what I think SAF brought was security to the players. I think they felt safe with him here. To be fair he has left a massive hole.


6.) 10 Jan 2014
One of fergys best achievements was winning the title with this team.
It's starting to show


7.) 10 Jan 2014
I think SAF knew what each player needed to perform! Like you said he protected the players! You have to remember as well that Moyes chose to bring his own staff in! The old staff would have known what each player needed and what there limits were in training! I listened to a podcast from a Dutch fitness coach who said at the beginning of the season that RVP would miss most due to his training! He said he went to watch United play a pre season friendly! RVP had just arrived after a long haul flight to literally be thrown into training the following day without rest and recupperation! You will come out of this hole stronger as long as Moyes understands that each player has individual needs and not all the team a required to do intense training! He needs to look at Ledley King as a prime example!


8.) 10 Jan 2014
Just one or two points Sydney as RRI has already made the point about players WE have had out of the team.
Last year excepted RVP has often been on the injury list so that could have been expected.
Ferguson's 'fear factor' wasn't what he imparted to opposing players but to his own. They knew he was (or used to be) ruthless and that failure to step up to the plate could have seen them shown the door. He
managed to build that reputation for ruthlessness by being in the job so long and being given overarching powers by the (various) owners.
I think the main problem is not your injury list, nor is it so much Af's departure (because his ruthlessness was on the wane as he edged towards to end of his working life), the problem has been the number of players reaching the end of their 'useful' playing life. I use the expression to mean no longer young enough or good enough for the top half of the premiership. I have no need to list these players - the vast majority on here could do the list much quicker than myself.


9.) 11 Jan 2014
Jred, I keep telling all my mates, one of Fergie's biggest ever achievements was winning the title with that team.


10.) 11 Jan 2014
Sydney

We led the PL with injuries 2 seasons ago. Whilst some of it might have to do with Moyes training, some is definitely dues to an aging squad and in general guys like evans, smelling, jones, young and nani who are younger have spent half of almost each season being injured and rarely available for selection.