30 Jul 2014 16:49:00
Wellbeck has been massively underrated. when we took on Real Madrid his pace and power accounted for much of the dangerous play that had us dominating. the goals he has scored though few have been technically very good. that disallowed goal last season in the champions league was one of the best goals I've ever seen.

Fresh Cavani is a very good player. at times with Napoli he was up there with The very best. but I've never seen a game he played where I thought he'd suit our style. well at least the style we aim for. quick exchanges of passing ect. he would be a very expensive luxery that will come up with some outstanding goals but I can see him slowing up play and losing the ball often in the final third.

I would prefer Welbeck Rooney Rvp also.

I agree with you 100 per cent with your stance with Sydney. this site is the sum of all its parts and will lose its charm if it gets dominated by consistant posters who think the more they type the more authttority they have in their opinions. the guy , sorry to forget who, who suggested Shaw could play left midfield winger an example. totally ridiculed by the clique and so the post died. but it was a perfectly good suggestion.

it discourages less vocal posters and gives the impression they are not welcome unless the clique agree with you.

I know this is long winded but it's fair to say

1.) 30 Jul 2014
This clique agree's with Constantine.

2.) 30 Jul 2014
Good post Constantine. People being persons to one another is never conducive to a good debate and all opinions should be valued rather than ridiculed. To suggest someone is 'clueless' shows a great deal of class and I for one have lost a lot of respect that I once had for Sydney and I am sure some on here feel the same. This shouldn't be a closed shop and no one knows more than anyone else.

As for Cavani - I wouldn't play him ahead of Rooney (in form) and RVP who will be great under LVG. Cavani has moaned all season about playing on the left for PSG, how is he going to react from the bench? We have to consider players like Welbeck as they make up a squad and are good players in their own right. We have players like Keane pushing, Zaha maybe and Januzaj needs a spot to play fairly regularly. Cavani would block young player development, would moan and isn't better than our starting two. That is a stance I will keep regardless of what Mr Manchester United (Sydney) has to say about it.

3.) 30 Jul 2014
Couldn't agree more

4.) 30 Jul 2014
Constantine, I have been an avid protector of Welbeck on this page. I have defended him so many times and I actually rate him, however he isn't anywhere near as good as Cavani and I am shocked that people are seriously saying that they would prefer Welbeck over Cavani. Absolute madness.

5.) 30 Jul 2014
Fresh, yeah because Welbeck hasn't recently threatened to leave due to being played out on the left has he?

6.) 30 Jul 2014
Personally I would rather someone disagree with me/call me clueless while having a good old debate than some of the patting on the back that goes on. This is no dig at you Sheff but what do the endless "great post", "post of the day" replies bring to proceedings? If someone truly believes that their opinion is valid then they won't allow being called clueless etc to stop them on their tracks. This is a forum of opinions at the end of the day and I'd stop reading if we all agreed.

7.) 30 Jul 2014
Sydney where are we going to play cavani? The guy wants to play up top so who gets dropped? At least welbeck has a bit of pace and power even though his decision making and finishing can be awful at times.
Each to there own opinion but cavani isn't world class if he was someone else would have signed him by now but they have looked elsewhere for a reason.

8.) 30 Jul 2014
Exactly what you said, a forum of opinions, and that was my opinion

9.) 30 Jul 2014
TK-Red
couldnt agree more ;)

10.) 30 Jul 2014
In my opinion Fresh is clueless :)

Opinions are respected remember lads.

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

11.) 30 Jul 2014
I think RVP will play better this season. However I wasn't impressed with him at all in the world cup under LVG?

Scored that great header but Cahill scored a better goal.

Where are people getting the idea RVP will thrive under LVG from? Or is it just wishful thinking.

12.) 30 Jul 2014
30 Jul 2014 18:26:06
Exactly what I was going to say TK-Red. If someone is going to get so defensive when a poster called him 'clueless', we might as well stop visiting the banter site. And as for the Cavani vs Welbeck debate, Cavani on his day can be world class, can we say the same about welbeck though? Would Welbeck give us 25odd goals in a season? I for one would be very happy if he did but just can't see it.

13.) 30 Jul 2014
Unconfirmed reports Sydney and he has never said that to the press. Cavani has.

14.) 30 Jul 2014
Oh dear

Cavani is a top top striker and welbeck is an overrated homegrown boy.

One will cost 45 million and more one would cost less than 20. I guess all those coaches and scouts are persons as none see the qualities people talk about.

Remember Welbeck's pathetic attempt against real when one on one with a goalie, that should tell you lot all you need to know about Bambi.

Eventually the last Bastion of support will dry up in a year or two and it will dawn on people he is just a big guy who can't shoot, pass, terrible control and sh. t composure.

15.) 30 Jul 2014
I have critiqued Welbeck a few times. Pace, power is all well and good but sport, certainly at a high level needs the right mentality. Welbeck's decision making and composure at key times is in question. I think the prime example is one on one in the Munich game, trying to dink the keeper. Sheringham didn't have pace and power but had a football brain, Welbeck doesn't when has time to think about what he is doing.
I would keep him as a squad player but I don't see him as first choice if we really want to challenge for top prizes.

16.) 30 Jul 2014
Well done Constantine, it had to be said. There are a few on here that criticise posts as if they are in the know. The truth is, no one but no one knows what's going on at OT. Opinions of who we would like United to buy make good debate and constructive criticism is welcome, but too many on here are know it alls who wouldn't say the same things face to face! Maybe Eds should be equipped with red and yellow cards? Sorry Eds, I know you're busy! ;)

17.) 30 Jul 2014
Syd absolute sanity

Cavani is Collossul.and deserves the word.
powerful. technique.

Danny glimpses of brilliance with obvious power and pace. very good athlelte
two different players
What importance are you measuring him on?.

Favoured position see what he can do. Injuries in mind likely we will see it.

has impact.
glimpses of real football intelligence.
glimpses of very sharp instinctive andrenilan moments.

handles in and out of the box, in and out of possesion.
i.e troubles defenders. to a high level. others around him can flourish to a top level of passing. securely. the importance of that is high and already in big games its proved so. even without the goals

there are very few players like Welbeck syd. i'd say your missing something when you look at him. to a degree. marginal but so it is


I wouldn't mind seeing a Welbeck Cavani partnership

18.) 30 Jul 2014
This sites gone mad. I blame Vidal!

19.) 30 Jul 2014
It's a little bit to do with Vidal. We are all a bit fidgety waiting for something to happen after our abysmal season. There are more things in life to worry about than football, but MU does occupy at least 50% of my life. Missus 10%, kids 20% etc etc :)

20.) 31 Jul 2014
Tk-red - I wish you'd come over to the arsenal page and tell them that. I'm an arsenal fan, and the extent of the butt licking gets a tad grotesque from certain individuals. Makes me feel a little queasy.

'Great post that mate', 'well said son', 'what a brilliant post mate, couldn't agree more'. Oh god, who cares!?